Anas09:

Did you see how they avoided this thread? I am waiting for the anti-prosperity preachers to come tell me that YHWH created the earth and everything in it, but determined that His own Children shd suffer in poverty while His enemy and his hordes enjoy what He has created.

budaatum:
Don't mind some people. God bless me they are unhappy, do they think God is a poor non-blessing dead God They must think God is a stone!

Welcome back 09. You've missed a lot!

Ubenedictus:
God didn't bless these people, they are only milking their congregations.


There is a special curse in the bible for shepherds who milk their sheep in this way.

Ubenedictus:
God didn't bless these people, they are only milking their congregations.


There is a special curse in the bible for shepherds who milk their sheep in this way.

desiredhome:

I wonder how some people will be claiming richest pastor in a country where over 60% are poor? including their members, these are criminal act, if not for money collected everyday inform of tithes, seed etc, through dubious means, what else do they do to become rich?
They have failed to realize that the people(contributing)
members are the church still they ignore them and be chasing fame, ignoring the purpose of their calling by twisting the Scripture to justify their greed.
Investing in bricks rather than human..

budaatum:

In 2005 after a similar church pastor would have stolen my money, stolen my car, my house and my beautiful twin sister, I was investigating churches with my cousin who manna fell from heaven for and we went to Oyedepo church. But I'll tell you first about Tunde Bakare church. Now that was a sermon. It's been years and I got a hole in my head so stuff leaks out but when I heard Bakare my heart literaly, as did I, leaped up and clapped for him and the congregation got up and joined in too. Quickly, as soon as the sermon ended my cousin and I fled and she said I was crazy! "They don't stand up and clap for Pastor!" I was like, "why not? It was a very good sermon!" And she said, "You are crazy", and warned me not to crazy at Oyedepo church.

On the road first try, moto full, road jam, I'm like "what the fuq!" And returned home, no way putting myself through suffer to mog in Ota from Ikotun! Following Sunday, two hours early while everyone' was still in bed, we arrived. Got to say, the space was neat and tidy, organised, economical, well aired, a decent view wherever one sat. I walked around and checked - na only cousin, me and ushers kuku de that time, though ushers watched with disapproval as I embarrassed my cousin. Just what one would expect from a mathematician, and I wondered if this was for real. I chose a seat near the back despite ushers ushering me front and watched the place fill up. Service began on time, no two hour noise making nonsense! And then Oyedepo preached!

At Bakare's, the feeling I'd had was a teacher teaching "calculus", which was impressive, but as I was leaving, I could see his congregation didn't understand a word he had said. While Oyedepo was going to one day teach calculus to his congregation but knew he had to start from 1 + 1 = 2.

In my own opinion, considering how well he's grown since then, building Oyedepo City and all, I think he qualifies as a competent indyadual who has most definitely been fruitful and multiplied and replenished and subdued and has dominion and is therefore, very blessed. I'm at least very certain that if I ever achieve ⅛ of ⅛ Oyedepo, I would say God blessed me.

I don't agree that he was "milking anyone dry". He is a teacher afterall, and must be paid. But if what Oyedepo is getting is "special curse" then I better tell God to not bless me but "special curse me" instead!

What ya say Ube, shall I oya nana nana na or not? Ok, let's ask.

Anyone here go Oyedepo church 2005? Come tell if it profit you!

Anas09:

And what have you to say to the politicians who do not only steal from you, but make you kill your fellow youths to keep them happily in the game of stealing?

They starve you, put guns in yours hands, when they're done using you, they turn their backs on you. When you try to speak up, are arrested and jailed.

Why haven't I heard your voice against that?

When the Lord promised to make his servants as fruitful and relevant as the Palm Tree, do you have an idea of what He meant?

Do you know what a Cider Tree is? That is what the Lord said He wld bless His servants and they wld be as tall, strong and valuable as the cider Tree.

What that means is that, no human being outside of God can compare himself to anyone the Lord blesses.
Go figure.

OkCornel:
Children of God, is this the truth?

jesusjnr:
Fa, fa, fa, fa, foul!

It is a lie from the pit of hell!!!

OkCornel:
Children of God, is this the truth?

OkCornel:
Children of God, is this the truth?

CaveAdullam:

It is a very good thing we pattern our lives and well-being according to the Lord Jesus Christ, He had all His needs/wants supplied at the right time and was lacking in nothing when He was on earth. He also had a treasurer(Judas Iscariot) and women supporters like Joanna, Mary Magdalene, Susana and a host of others who ministered to and provided for Him and them (the disciples) out of their property and personal belongings.



In the teaching of prosperity most people are on the extremes;



1.Many don't have their wants supplied according to God's riches in heaven because they think they ought to have nothing in order not to veer from the way of salvation thereby thinking it is God's will for them and other Christians to remain poor(materially). Even the spiritual life of most people in this category is not robust enough based on my own opinion.



2. Many have accumulated all things for themselves, then, have a developed mindset that they are in line with God not knowing they are on the way that seemeth right but leads to destruction. These set of people judge their spiritual growth by their material gains. What a pity!

Prosperity is all way round and most especially in Spirit, Soul and Body.



In all, we should try and know God's plan concerning our lives in regards to the mission He has assigned for us here on earth and ask Him to supply all that we need to accomplish it both Spiritually and Materially.



Thanks.



God bless.

CodeTemplar:
Scriptural backups please.
We don't need kingdom democracy. . . lol

Anas09:

Let's go through scriptures as you list out his errors.

It's not enough to ask a wholistic question like, is it true?

Why do you disagree? With scriptures.

OkCornel:


Please set the ball rolling with scriptural evidences on the case study of Job.

I recall it was God who removed His protection from Job before Satan could strike. Was God's protection dependent on whether Job tithed or not?

Did Job eventually tithe his way back to restoration?

Anas09:

You are the one making a case against Bishop not me, so don't ask me to do anything.

Go ahead and list Bishop Oyedepo's errors Scripturally. Let's go.

OkCornel:
Hi Anas09, made some updates on the Thyatira and Pergamos thread early this morning. I'm through with the Pergamos church...lemme have your thoughts before I proceed further.

Thanks.

OkCornel:


I'm not listing out anything. Let's stick to the tithing revelation he got on Job. What's your take on that?

I recall it was God who removed His protection from Job before Satan could strike.

1. Was God's protection dependent on whether Job tithed or not?

2. Did Job eventually tithe his way back to restoration?

Anas09:

You wld follow this based on the premise of his message or I will not attend to you.

Anas09:

You wld follow this based on the premise of his message or I will not attend to you.

Hinn’s outright rejection of the prosperity gospel comes just two months after his nephew, Costi Hinn, revealed in his new book, God, Greed, and the (Prosperity) Gospel: How Truth Overwhelms a Life Built on Lies, how his family exploited millions around the world with the prosperity gospel and often traded so-called miracles for money..

“I’m sorry to say that prosperity has gone a little crazy and I’m correcting my own theology and you need to all know it. Because when I read the Bible now, I don’t see the Bible in the same eyes I saw 20 years ago,” Hinn said as his followers rejoiced.

Benny Hinn Renounces Prosperity Gospel, Says ‘holy Ghost Is Just Fed Up With It’