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Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 5:04pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Does Ifa support or condemn idol worshiping? This is an important question needing knowledgeable answer. Kindly shed more light on this |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by OJODEL10(m): 6:05pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
let me sit down here |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 6:26pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
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Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Oshin56(m): 8:07pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Very interesting question |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 8:23pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Oshin56: Any prior knowledge on the subject? |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Oshin56(m): 8:32pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
bilms:we are waiting for people like you to shield more light to it |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 8:56pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Lol |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by aremuforlife(m): 9:17pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
It depends on what you mean by idol worshipping The 2 leading religions makes us believed that if you don't belong to either of the religion, you are automatic an idol worshippers. IFA is a religion and ways of life of a particular race and it's an intermediary between mankind and OLODUMARE. |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 9:28pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
aremuforlife: Please do not bring any other religion into this discuss. This is strictly about ifa. Secondly, whatever your definition of idol worshiping is, does ifa support or condemn idol worshiping? |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by aremuforlife(m): 10:29pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
[/quote][quote author=bilms post=79979616]I'm not trying to bring any other religions here but only references to the religion that makes our religion to look like idol worshipping. IFA does not support idol worshipping because it emphasises much on OLODUMARE. Though there other gods like the "ORISA". The orisa are not worshipped, they are only been appeased. |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Opiletool(m): 8:19am On Jul 06, 2019 |
Below is a comment from Celestial777 made in another similar thread. "Ifa loba Orisa losin Eledumare nikan lo to gbe okan Le Odu irete Ifa condemn idol worshiping Ori ni a ba bo..a ba fi Orisa sile...ijo Ti ori ngbeni nibo ni Orisa wa Let's now talk about Orisa What is an Orisa? Orisa is someone great that has live on earth before. Awon ti ori sa so to That is why you get the term orisa Is like using the name of baba Oyedepo to pray Like God of Oyedepo So Orisa is a medium to get to Eledumare Agotun Like in Catholic each profession has its own patron saint. E.g saint Peter patron of fishermen Saint Thomas Aquinos patron of sailors So Saint Ogun is Patron of blacksmith and welders Eledumare only is to be worshipped....the means is now left with you. I chose to go through Christ for a reason cos The story of creation said Eledumare and His only son word (oro) were the only one present when the world was about to be created. Eji ogbe say so And my Bible said the same 2. Secondly it is only Jesus that knows what happens when we die ..i mean after life The Prophet Mohammed s.a.w Said he dont know what will happen to him at death but Sheikh Ali and the rest should always pray for him... 3. Ifa said the good Priest and all those that venerated there Ifa well well while on earth will have surplus to eat at imere That is why when a babalawo want to give kudos to his late boss he will say ...ki awo ire ma je ni imere 4.Jesus said in my Father's house there are many mansion there if no be so i will not say so Listen that never mean I condemn any religion cos I know there are predestined Muslim and predestined ifa priest as well. Well to me i know they will make heaven..very sure cos they are predestined. Someone said what about Orumila Baba is just a witness when humans are choosing destiny Eleri ipin.....means witness to Destiny" |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 9:14am On Jul 06, 2019 |
I need someone who can give us an extensive explanation on the sunject |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 8:11pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
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Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bluke(m): 4:21pm On Jul 08, 2019 |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 6:39pm On Jul 08, 2019 |
bluke: Thank you. May her soul rest in peace. I have been looking for her books but couldn't find it. |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 1:38am On Jul 09, 2019 |
IFA'S TAKE ON IDOL WORSHIPING Ao le be igi ni igbo We can't cut a tree from the forest Ko wa di olowo eni And it becomes our commander Orere ko le ni iyi to eni to gbe A craft can't be more prestigious than the crafter Oni oju It has eyes Ko le ri iran But it can't see Oni ese It has legs Ko le sare But can't run Ifa loba Ifa is the overseer Orisa losin The gifted are the messenger Olodumare ni kan lo to gbekele Only the creator can be relied upon Ori ni a ba ma bo We should rather worship the maker A ba fi Orisa sile And leave the gifted people Ni ijo Ti ori ngbeni While the creator is aiding us Nibo ni Orisa wa Where are the gifted one's? Can someone please translate the Yoruba into a more appropriate and acceptable English language? |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by 2mch(m): 6:18am On Jul 09, 2019 |
So, how come people started worshipping the Orisha. How can I get my hands on the Ifa Odus |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 8:13am On Jul 09, 2019 |
Orisa are not worshipped Orisa cannot be worshipped Orisa are merely gifted people Who were blessed with some unique skills They are heroes and heroines of that time That's why they called them orisa Ori sa (the selected) Literally, Ori means head Sa means selected Orisa means someone selected by his head Ori in Yoruba philosophy is used for eleda, the maker So, orisa simply means the one selected by the maker In other words, orisa are messengers Through which people believe they can pass message to God That's why we have many Orisa's, each with his own gift 3 Likes |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by macof(m): 7:30am On Jul 11, 2019 |
Opiletool: Be deceiving yourself. There is no babaláwo I know who can confirm the existence of any Ese Ifá saying anything like Olódùmarè having a son, much less one named ọrọ (word). Eji ogbe is too popular for this to be ignored by many if such Ese Ifá existed Clever way to try to link ifá to John 1:1 |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by macof(m): 8:13am On Jul 11, 2019 |
bilms: I have always known the saying to be "ifá loba, Orunmila losin" = Ifá is king, Orunmila is Supreme I hope you realize that Ori (Eleda:the creator) is different from Olodumare? |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by macof(m): 8:15am On Jul 11, 2019 |
bilms:Does Christianity support idol worship? If your answer is no, then I don't see how Ifá supports idol worship |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Opiletool(m): 8:23am On Jul 11, 2019 |
macof: Bros, did you read my first sentence or you skipped it? |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by macof(m): 8:35am On Jul 11, 2019 |
Opiletool:I believe reposting it means you approve of its message |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Opiletool(m): 8:49am On Jul 11, 2019 |
macof:Then your conclusion is erroneous. I simply pasted what seemed like a response to the question the OP seeks answers to. |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Nobody: 9:29am On Jul 11, 2019 |
macof: You be didirin.... I mean real mugu I am a Christian and a good one. Do you think there is one person that knows all the ifa corpus I made that remark bc I know its true. Listen you can choose to believe or not Na you sabi... Professor Sophie Oluwole (late) Have lecture on that at Felabration and on another personal interview You can look her up on you tube While you are thinking about if you will lolook ol her up or not you are a he goat After you have looked her up and confirm that it's true you will become human again. |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 11:22pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
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Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by macof(m): 12:42am On Jul 13, 2019 |
Celestial777:You being a Christian already doesn't put you in a descent position to talk about ifá Can you share the YouTube video where she said Olódùmarè had only one son called ọrọ (the word)? I would like to scrutinize the information myself and maybe learn some more Ese ifá I don't know And I believe it is only wise to provide your source And can you stop trying to insult your better? |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by macof(m): 12:43am On Jul 13, 2019 |
Opiletool: Indeed your explanation does confirm my conclusion was wrong. Sorry Good thing the original poster is here |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Opiletool(m): 6:16am On Jul 13, 2019 |
macof: It's OK sir! |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by Nobody: 8:22am On Jul 13, 2019 |
macof: Share ko. Share ni Wetin be my own if you remain ignorant See I read Ifa corpus book by Rev Fagbola Written in 1825 You can look it up Better still I fit help you send the cover page ...i mean the pics so you will know I know wbay I am saying |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 9:39am On Jul 13, 2019 |
Celestial777: Don't be harsh on people asking you question. You may die tomorrow and take it with you. 2 Likes |
Re: Does Ifa Support Or Condemn Idol Worshiping? by bilms(m): 9:45am On Jul 13, 2019 |
Pls help push this post to the front page |
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