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Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by spunky425(m): 8:34am On Jul 10, 2019


The founder and senior pastor of the ‘House On The Rock’ church, Pastor Paul Adefarasin has revealed that the old testament of the Bible doesn’t work anymore.

According to the post shared yesterday, Tuesday 9th, the pastor revealed that the law don’t work again as it is an expired covenant.

He thereby encouraged the use of the more modern New testament, calling it the ‘new plan, new mediator and new agreement’ as it is built on a better manager.



The pastor made this known via his official Instagram page @pauladefarasin, see below;

Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by Righteousness89(m): 9:25am On Jul 10, 2019
Very False......

Stylishly desecrating the Bible....

Symptoms of False Prophets...

Matthew 24:34
Heaven and Earth shall Pass away, but my Words shall not pass away

No part of the Bible is obsolete....
Every Part has their importance...

You Have the Promises of GOD littered everywhere in the Bible.. Which when applied, you get the same Result as of Old..

Whatever your Eyes can cover , you can Receive

The GOD OF Abramham, Issac and Jacob is the Same GOD OF Today..



Beware of Man in whatever Title or disguise ... so you don't be deceived...

We are in the Very Last days... Anytime, Just Anytime, JESUS WILL APPEAR...

The devil is doing all he can to take the Believers off...

GOD GIVE US UNDERSTANDING

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Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by alBHAGDADI: 9:38am On Jul 10, 2019
False prophet, he doesn't know which one he's saying or standing for. Here he is saying the Old Testament laws doesn't work anymore, but on the other hand he collects tithe.

What he ought to be saying is that relying on the works of the law as a means of salvation and eternal life doesn't work. What works is relying on Jesus who gives eternal life and salvation to all those who believe in him.

Does that mean the law is now useless? No. The law helps us live a good life on Earth, but it is not what saves us.

2 Timothy 3:16-17

[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

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Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by StrikeBack(m): 9:41am On Jul 10, 2019
grin grin grin
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by movingclouds(m): 10:47am On Jul 10, 2019
I hope he doesn't receive tithes

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Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by Nobody: 10:53am On Jul 10, 2019
I don't agree!

It works but it's not powerful enough to generate the kind of power the church needs, to make it stronger than the devil and for the gates of hell not to be able to prevail against it.

The Words of Jesus is what has the capacity to do that for the church.

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Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by sonmvayina(m): 12:45pm On Jul 10, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
False prophet, he doesn't know which one he's saying or standing for. Here he is saying the Old Testament laws doesn't work anymore, but on the other hand he collects tithe.

What he ought to be saying is that relying on the works of the law as a means of salvation and eternal life doesn't work. What works is relying on Jesus who gives eternal life and salvation to all those who believe in him.

Does that mean the law is now useless? No. The law helps us live a good life on Earth, but it is not what saves us.

2 Timothy 3:16-17

[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The scripture paul was referring to is the tanarkh...that is the old testament, NOT THE BIBLE...paul was not talking to you that is reading his letters today, he wrote a letter to his friend..i dont know who had the idea that it is God's word.Context is key.
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by Righteousness89(m): 1:07pm On Jul 10, 2019
sonmvayina:


The scripture paul was referring to is the tanarkh...that is the old testament, NOT THE BIBLE...paul was not talking to you that is reading his letters today, he wrote a letter to his friend..i dont know who had the idea that it is God's word.Context is key.

Let leave all this This Tanaka and all that!

If GOD didnt subscribe to Paul words, It will. It Be in the Bible...

The Bible is for all Generations irrespective of wat season..

The Bible is our Guide..

It's Ever Refreshing...

No part of the Bible is Obsolete
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by paxonel(m): 2:00pm On Jul 10, 2019
The pastor is right!
Some laws in the old testament don't work for anyone this days. They are all archaic
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by paxonel(m): 2:09pm On Jul 10, 2019
Righteousness89:
Very False......

Stylishly desecrating the Bible....

Symptoms of False Prophets...

Matthew 24:34
Heaven and Earth shall Pass away, but my Words shall not pass away

No part of the Bible is obsolete....
Every Part has their importance...

You Have the Promises of GOD littered everywhere in the Bible.. Which when applied, you get the same Result as of Old..

Whatever your Eyes can cover , you can Receive

The GOD OF Abramham, Issac and Jacob is the Same GOD OF Today..



Beware of Man in whatever Title or disguise ... so you don't be deceived...

We are in the Very Last days... Anytime, Just Anytime, JESUS WILL APPEAR...

The devil is doing all he can to take the Believers off...

GOD GIVE US UNDERSTANDING

big lie!!!!

The pastor is right, God made his word specific to very generation. Some for the old era, and they are not to be applied for us this modern day.

When God commanded Moses to strike the rock in order to get water, we should not ignorantly go about striking rocks looking for water today simply because it was written in the old testament, we will never get the same result.

Same with tithing and all those old laws
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by Righteousness89(m): 2:53pm On Jul 10, 2019
[s]
paxonel:
big lie!!!!

The pastor is right, God made his word specific to very generation. Some for the old era, and they are not to be applied for us this modern day.

When God commanded Moses to strike the rock in order to get water, we should not ignorantly go about striking rocks looking for water today simply because it was written in the old
testament, we will never get the same result.

Same with tithing and all those old laws
[/s]

Totally False..
Are you Moses?
Did GOD Command You to strike?

If HE did, then obey..
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by ikorodureporta: 5:15pm On Jul 10, 2019
Righteousness89:
Very False......

Stylishly desecrating the Bible....

Symptoms of False Prophets...

Matthew 24:34
Heaven and Earth shall Pass away, but my Words shall not pass away

No part of the Bible is obsolete....
Every Part has their importance...

You Have the Promises of GOD littered everywhere in the Bible.. Which when applied, you get the same Result as of Old..

Whatever your Eyes can cover , you can Receive

The GOD OF Abramham, Issac and Jacob is the Same GOD OF Today..



Beware of Man in whatever Title or disguise ... so you don't be deceived...

We are in the Very Last days... Anytime, Just Anytime, JESUS WILL APPEAR...

The devil is doing all he can to take the Believers off...

GOD GIVE US UNDERSTANDING

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alBHAGDADI:
False prophet, he doesn't know which one he's saying or standing for. Here he is saying the Old Testament laws doesn't work anymore, but on the other hand he collects tithe.

What he ought to be saying is that relying on the works of the law as a means of salvation and eternal life doesn't work. What works is relying on Jesus who gives eternal life and salvation to all those who believe in him.

Does that mean the law is now useless? No. The law helps us live a good life on Earth, but it is not what saves us.

2 Timothy 3:16-17

[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
jesusjnr:
I don't agree!

It works but it's not powerful enough to generate the kind of power the church needs, to make it stronger than the devil and for the gates of hell not to be able to prevail against it.

The Words of Jesus is what has the capacity to do that for the church.


Una dey answer that moloch-worshipping agent of Satan? Person that does not believe in Christ.
I watch him almost every week on TVC & he's always on a topic to desecrate Christianity.
I pity ppl wey still dey go the cult

Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by paxonel(m): 5:59pm On Jul 10, 2019
Righteousness89:
[s][/s]

Totally False..
Are you Moses?
Did GOD Command You to strike?

If HE did, then obey..
you already know that God cannot command anyone to strike a rock this modern day.
It has never happened since the inception of the new covenant through Christ since approximately 2000 years ago that a pastor striked rock to bring water, what for?

This modern day that through science one can sink borehole and purify drinking water for a whole community and you are still talking about how a pastor miraculously bring water from a rock like Moses?

You must be having a very ridiculous primitive mindset and for sure, that is not Christianity you are practicing like that grin
Or do you have any example of a pastor who is still doing any such primitive things today? I don't think so

it will never happen now.

So be realistic like what the pastor has said and give up your deception it will not work.
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by movingclouds(m): 6:47pm On Jul 10, 2019
sonmvayina:


The scripture paul was referring to is the tanarkh...that is the old testament, NOT THE BIBLE...paul was not talking to you that is reading his letters today, he wrote a letter to his friend..i dont know who had the idea that it is God's word.Context is key.
If Paul referred to the Tanarkh, then he did quoted God's word... He wrote that letter to his friend from what he'd learnt from the old... I think we're in a confused generation... The commandments of God are not obsolete.. When we talk about the testaments, we're talking about the commandments... The old testament attracted condemnation, but the new through Christ explained the old testament, but now unto salvation
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by movingclouds(m): 6:59pm On Jul 10, 2019
I think the Pastor is just confused... He said try the new covenant... Could someone actually use the old without believing in the new? Jesus preached in synagogues using the old... Jesus performed miracles in a way that appeared old, meaning the Holy Spirit may direct us into doing things that looks foolish... We need learn the Bible ourselves, most of the sheep are being taught and misled by wolves in sheepskins... How could u receive tithes and preach first fruits and still call the old testament an expired book... It's not expired, it's explained unto salvation

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Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by OkCornel(m): 8:51pm On Jul 10, 2019
The Old Testament (Covenant) will be fully revived by the Jews towards the end of age...

Plans for a third temple is in place...but how to replace the dome of the rock with the 3rd temple is the current obstacle.

The order of Priesthood, burnt offerings e.t.c. are being practiced in Jerusalem as we speak...
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by Nobody: 9:23pm On Jul 10, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
False prophet, he doesn't know which one he's saying or standing for. Here he is saying the Old Testament laws doesn't work anymore, but on the other hand he collects tithe.

Did you know how sweet your name could sound for uttering this?
Well for the first time ever, you've spoken with sincerity. So tell him to refund all the tithes and offerings ever collected in his Church before condemning the Old Testament because there is nowhere he could point to in the New Testament to support any of the two!

Never mind about those compliments you often give people, it's already a welcomed development to me ! wink
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by Righteousness89(m): 9:52pm On Jul 10, 2019
paxonel:
you already know that God cannot command anyone to strike a rock this modern day.
It has never happened since the inception of the new covenant through Christ since approximately 2000 years ago that a pastor striked rock to bring water, what for?

This modern day that through science one can sink borehole and purify drinking water for a whole community and you are still talking about how a pastor miraculously bring water from a rock like Moses?

You must be having a very ridiculous primitive mindset and for sure, that is not Christianity you are practicing like that grin
Or do you have any example of a pastor who is still doing any such primitive things today? I don't think so

it will never happen now.

So be realistic like what the pastor has said and give up your deception it will not work.

My Brother you just showed u don't know GOD...

The Ways of GOD are not the Ways of Men...

The Bible says HE is the Same , Yesterday, Today and Forever..

The Ancient of Days

We still Call HIM The GOD of Abramham,Issac and Jacob..

He Moves the way or Manner HE chooses to Move..

My Brother Wake up... Don't get yourself Decieved
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by paxonel(m): 11:09pm On Jul 10, 2019
Righteousness89:

The Bible says HE is the Same , Yesterday, Today and Forever..
on what condition that he is the same, yesterday, today and forever?
Do you think this scripture applies to all condition?
If that is what you think you are being deceived.

For you to have a clear understanding of the scripture you quoted read verses 11 and 12 with the scripture

Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Heb 13:11 For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp

Verse 11 here is talking about the Israelites sacrificing beast(animals) in their sanctuary for the atonement of their sins. This was the first condition of appease God, it had nothing to do with Jesus Christ .

But here is verse 12 talking about the second condition which requires Jesus being crucified for the atonement of sins WHICH REMAINS THE SAME, TODAY AND FOREVER (not the first condition of the old covenant)

Heb 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

So, you can see that when Hebrews was saying Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever, it has nothing to do with old testament or the old covenant.

Old covenant was of Abraham, new covenant was of Christ. Jesus can never be the same as Abraham saying he is the same, yesterday, today and forever
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by Righteousness89(m): 11:38pm On Jul 10, 2019
paxonel:
on what condition that he is the same, yesterday, today and forever?
Do you think this scripture applies to all condition?
If that is what you think you are being deceived.

For you to have a clear understanding of the scripture you quoted read verses 11 and 12 with the scripture

Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Heb 13:11 For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp

Verse 11 here is talking about the Israelites sacrificing beast(animals) in their sanctuary for the atonement of their sins. This was the first condition of appease God, it had nothing to do with Jesus Christ .

But here is verse 12 talking about the second condition which requires Jesus being crucified for the atonement of sins WHICH REMAINS THE SAME, TODAY AND FOREVER (not the first condition of the old covenant)

Heb 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

So, you can see that when Hebrews was saying Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever, it has nothing to do with old testament or the old covenant.

Old covenant was of Abraham, new covenant was of Christ. Jesus can never be the same as Abraham saying he is the same, yesterday, today and forever

I Have Told u Bro.. The Bible is GOD'S to All Humanity .... Don't allow yourself to be Deceived...

You don't pick one part of the Bible and give interpretations..

GOD is a Spirit and HIS things are not done with the Carnal Mind of Knowledge...

Simply Obey His words..

You don't need a Pastor or Bishop or whatever to Misdirect u..

No part of the Bible is Useless... Anyone saying anything than what Has been Written is an Agent of the Anti-Christ
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by johnw47: 12:53am On Jul 11, 2019
Maximus69:


Did you know how sweet your name could sound for uttering this?
Well for the first time ever, you've spoken with sincerity. So tell him to refund all the tithes and offerings ever collected in his Church before condemning the Old Testament because there is nowhere he could point to in the New Testament to support any of the two!

Never mind about those compliments you often give people, it's already a welcomed development to me ! wink

habitual lying™ max
so you know everything he has ever spoken,
no, it's just you talking your natural talk,-lying
your daddy does that too, that's where you got it from through your elders:

Joh 8:44  Joh 8:44  You are the children of your father, the Devil, and you want to follow your father's desires. From the very beginning he was a murderer and has never been on the side of truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he is only doing what is natural to him, because he is a liar and the father of all lies.
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by Temple1288(m): 2:52am On Jul 11, 2019
If the Old Testament is of no use, then tithes are of no use.. It's only useful when tithe is involved!

Suit wearing fraudsters!
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by ikorodureporta: 7:35am On Jul 11, 2019
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by paxonel(m): 8:39am On Jul 11, 2019
Righteousness89:


I Have Told u Bro.. The Bible is GOD'S to All Humanity
no one is disputing this one. But does this mean that the old testament is also bible in reality?
I don't think so.

So stop picking old testament laws that are not relevant to Christianity saying it is bible. That is what the pastor is saying.

Today you have learn something new.

You don't pick one part of the Bible and give interpretations.
constructively analyse one of my statement that point that i pick one part of the bible let's see.

You just have to be discrete and accurate this modern day that there is education otherwise you will face serious criticism like the church is currently facing today by both believers and non-believers due to inherent dogmatism of todays church.

GOD is a Spirit and HIS things are not done with the Carnal Mind of Knowledge
done by who?
By God himself who is a spirit or by humans?

God created humans in canal body in his imagine and likeness in. Everything we do as humans we do in our canal body.
The brain we ought to apply in other to comprehend scriptures and other written materials is canal and not spiritual. Whether we understand or not will depend on how the individual uses his brain and not God who is spirit.

Simply Obey His words..

You don't need a Pastor or Bishop or whatever to Misdirect u
again, do you imitate old order of doing things in the old testament this modern day as a Christian saying you are oheying God's word?

1.Do you put on white garment and walk barefooted on streets saying you are obeying God's word simply because priests of old testament put on white garments and Moses was barefooted in the burning bush?

2.Do you pay tithe saying you are obeying God's word simply because the Jews paid tithe?

3. Do you sacrifice animals for atonement of your sins saying you are obeying God's word?

4. Do you slaughter fellow human beings in battle and destroy all their goods saying you are obeying God's words because God instructed some people to do that in the old testament?

If you choose to keep all these because you want to obey God's word, then do all of them. because.

James 2: 10 says For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

No part of the Bible is Useless
very true! But you should know that some part were written for us to learn and know how life used to be in the old, therefore no part is useless like you said. But the way we use it matters to us today.
They were written in order for us to make correction and amendment where necessary and not to repeat their lifestyle and mistakes by making doctrines out of them.
They were written so that by the time we know, we can make amendment towards living our lives today better than people of the old who never saw God's kingdom. Matthew 11:11
Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by Righteousness89(m): 12:47pm On Jul 11, 2019
paxonel:
no one is disputing this one. But does this mean that the old testament is also bible in reality?
I don't think so.

So stop picking old testament laws that are not relevant to Christianity saying it is bible. That is what the pastor is saying.

Today you have learn something new.
constructively analyse one of my statement that point that i pick one part of the bible let's see.

You just have to be discrete and accurate this modern day that there is education otherwise you will face serious criticism like the church is currently facing today by both believers and non-believers due to inherent dogmatism of todays church.
done by who?
By God himself who is a spirit or by humans?

God created humans in canal body in his imagine and likeness in. Everything we do as humans we do in our canal body.
The brain we ought to apply in other to comprehend scriptures and other written materials is canal and not spiritual. Whether we understand or not will depend on how the individual uses his brain and not God who is spirit.
again, do you imitate old order of doing things in the old testament this modern day as a Christian saying you are oheying God's word?

1.Do you put on white garment and walk barefooted on streets saying you are obeying God's word simply because priests of old testament put on white garments and Moses was barefooted in the burning bush?

2.Do you pay tithe saying you are obeying God's word simply because the Jews paid tithe?

3. Do you sacrifice animals for atonement of your sins saying you are obeying God's word?

4. Do you slaughter fellow human beings in battle and destroy all their goods saying you are obeying God's words because God instructed some people to do that in the old testament?

If you choose to keep all these because you want to obey God's word, then do all of them. because.

James 2: 10 says For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.
very true! But you should know that some part were written for us to learn and know how life used to be in the old, therefore no part is useless like you said. But the way we use it matters to us today.
They were written in order for us to make correction and amendment where necessary and not to repeat their lifestyle and mistakes by making doctrines out of them.
They were written so that by the time we know, we can make amendment towards living our lives today better than people of the old who never saw God's kingdom. Matthew 11:11

My Brother, First of all, I salute your Knowledge of GOD'S WORD ( THE BIBLE)

My Argument was on the Message of the pastor posted here Which bothered on the Relevance of the Old Testament of the Holy Bible.

The Holy Bible is a Complete Guide for The Human Race..

The Corrections that we are meant to make is in Right in the Bible.. There is no Correction Outside the Bible...

The Bible like I said is GOD'S WORD... There is no part that is not for our Edification today

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Re: Pastor Adefarasin: Old Testament Doesn’t Work For Anybody Again, It’s Expired! by paxonel(m): 2:57pm On Jul 11, 2019
Righteousness89:


My Brother, First of all, I salute your Knowledge of GOD'S WORD ( THE BIBLE)

My Argument was on the Message of the pastor posted here Which bothered on the Relevance of the Old Testament of the Holy Bible.

The Holy Bible is a Complete Guide for The Human Race..

The Corrections that we are meant to make is in Right in the Bible.. There is no Correction Outside the Bible...

The Bible like I said is GOD'S WORD... There is no part that is not for our Edification today
very true my bro

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