This is more or less from a response I gave to somebody yesterday who felt the bible is not a book of truth, and he had asked to know why God of the old testament was such a "wicked God that would tell Israel to go to war and wipe out other nations", and why he apparently seemed to have lowered his standards in the new testament by no longer demanding for christians to go and kill other nations like he told the Jews in old testament. His second question was, how come we have so many races and tribes and languages today if what the bible claims is true that we all came from the same Adam & Eve who in his own words "must have been arabs". Lastly, If the bible is true that God is the same yesterday, today and forever, then why did the God of the old testament look different from the God of the new testament who no longer tells people to go and kill other nations?


Let's explore some answers below to see if the bible is really accurate, and if the facts are right, then it should give every non-believer a cause to rethink why they are not born again, because if the bible says Jesus is the only way to salvation, then it must be right also, and there will be no need wasting time and delaying your surrender to Christ. Because as the same bible says, Heaven is real and hell is real, and only your personal relationship with Christ can save you when you die and face judgement for where you will spend eternity.

THE ANSWERS BELOW

1) God did not change, neither did He lower His standards. The same God of the old testament is the same God of the new testament. The only difference is that according to John 1:17 Jesus came with GRACE & TRUTH in the new testament. God's law clearly states it that THE SOUL THAT SINS SHALL DIE. THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH. In the old testament, there was no propitiation for sin, except among the Jews who understood about animal sacrifices, which were not a solution but a temporary reprieve for the consequences of their sins. Other nations in the old testament were deeply involved in sin, especially idolatry which even God himself gave a law to Moses, saying that any Israelite caught in idolatry should be put to death for that sin.

All the nations and tribes that God commanded the israelites to kill and wipe out were idolatrous nations that refused to worship the true creator. God did not create double standards when it comes to sin, and that was why if the israelites worshipped idols, they got the same punishment that God asked them to mete out to the other idol-worshipping nations too. So, in short form, God asked those nations you referred to to be killed because of their sins, not because God was just a wicked God trying to kill innocent people.

If you read Psalms 24:1 "The earth is the LORD’s, and the fullness thereof, the world and all who dwell therein." This clearly tells you that God owns the earth and all the human beings living on it, and as such, he can do whatever he pleases with them, and NOBODY CAN QUERY HIM. If you yourself own a piece of land in your village, you can decide to build any kind of house you like on it, or you could even decide to use it for farming instead. And even if you had a building on that land, you can as well decide to pull it down, and nobody has a right to query you for what you choose to do with your property. THAT IS HOW IT IS WITH GOD AND THE EARTH. HE OWNS EARTH, HE OWNS THE LIVES OF ALL WHO LIVE ON EARTH, SO HE CAN CHOOSE TO DO WHATEVER HE DECIDES AND NOBODY CAN STOP HIM!

Murder is a sin, only because no man has the ability to give life, and as such no man should have the right to take away an innocent life. Just as robbery is a sin because you don't have the right to take away a property that does not belong to you. By that law, if you kill a man, it is wrong because you didn't give that man his life and so you have no right to take it, BUT IF GOD KILLS, IT IS RIGHT BY EVERY STANDARD BECAUSE THAT LIFE IN THE FIRST INSTANCE BELONGS TO HIM, SO HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO TAKE IT BACK IF HE SO CHOOSES.

In the new testament, it might appear to you as though God lowered his standards, but the truth is he didn't. The only difference that makes it appear so to you is just the fact that Jesus came to die on the cross to pay for the sins of man which had to be punished. The Grace that came with the death and resurrection of Jesus is what provides the legal ground for God to forgive sins if there is repentance. That same Grace is what provides the legal ground for God to delay judgement on sin for a much longer time so that every sinner will have an opportunity to repent before judgement hits. Because according to John 3:17-18

"17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. 18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."

So God does not take pleasure in sinners being judged and condemned, and that is why He gives a long opportunity to people to repent before they die and go to hell in judgement. As you can see, even people who blaspheme the name of God like @badman007 are still walking about freely and enjoying God's free oxygen just because of that same Grace that came with Jesus Christ. If it were in the old testament when there was no grace available for all, he may have been blasted by thunder and lightening during one of his regular blaspheming sessions.




2) To your second question about different races on earth if we all had come from the same Adam & Eve, the bible clearly states the answer in Genesis 10:25
"25 Eber had two sons. The first was named Peleg (which means “division”), for during his lifetime the people of the world were divided into different groups. His brother’s name was Joktan."

So, in Genesis 10:25, the bible clearly states that the earth divided into different PEOPLE GROUPS(RACES), and in Genesis 11:1, the bible still states that the whole earth still had one language(even though they had been divided into races at this time), but if you read further about the story of the tower of Babel in the same chapter 11, from verse 5

"5 But when the LORD came down to look at the city and the tower, 6 he said: These people are working together because they all speak the same language. This is just the beginning. Soon they will be able to do anything they want. 7 Let's go down and confuse them! We'll make them speak different languages, and they won't be able to understand each other.

8-9 So the people had to stop building the city, because the LORD confused their language and scattered them all over the earth. That's how the city of Babel+ got its name."


So these should answer your questions as to how God created one man and one woman, but today the earth has many races and languages. I have not found any other record of these outside of the bible.

3) I could give you a few more evidence to show you how accurate and true the word of God is;
a) ROUND EARTH THEORY
Long before the 17th century when scientists started discovering facts to prove that the earth was spherical, the bible had already written it that the earth was of a spherical and not a flat shape. Read Isaiah 40:22

"22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in."

Thousands of years ago, when people thought the earth was flat, the bible already recorded the earth to have a circular shape.

b) EARTH SUSPENDED IN SPACE
When do you think scientists were able to prove that the earth was floating in space and not hanging on some kind of pillars? Your guess is as good as mine. Probably sometime in the 18th or 19th or 20th century. But thousands of years ago, when there were all sorts of myths about the earth being hung on something, the bible had already recorded that the earth was hanging in space. Read Job 26:7

"7 God stretches the northern sky over empty space and hangs the earth on nothing."

c) DINOSAURS
Long before scientists/archaeologists discovered that dinosaurs once roamed the face of the earth, the bible had already recorded such kind of animals. Read Job 40:15

"15 Behold now, behemoth, which I made as well as thee; He eateth grass as an ox.

16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, And his force is in the muscles of his belly.

17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: The sinews of his thighs are knit together.

18 His bones are as tubes of brass; His limbs are like bars of iron.

19 He is the chief of the ways of God: He only that made him giveth him his sword.

20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, Where all the beasts of the field do play.

21 He lieth under the lotus-trees, In the covert of the reed, and the fen.

22 The lotus-trees cover him with their shade; The willows of the brook compass him about.

23 Behold, if a river overflow, he trembleth not; He is confident, though a Jordan swell even to his mouth.

24 Shall any take him when he is on the watch, Or pierce through his nose with a snare?"


IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT THE NAME "DINOSAUR" WASN'T COINED BY SCIENTISTS UNTIL THE 19TH CENTURY AND THAT IS WHY YOU DON'T FIND THE WORD "DINOSAUR" IN THE BIBLE BECAUSE THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE SCIENTISTS STARTED USING THE DINOSAUR WORD. But then, you may want to google the Dinosaur named Sauropod, which scientists officially recognise as the largest dinosaur to have ever lived. One of the translations of the bible put it this way in Job 40:19

"He is the foremost of God’s works; only his Maker can draw the sword against him."

Which means he is the largest or most monstrous of God's creation as well. When you google about that Sauropod, also find out what kind of food scientists discovered it ate, whether it was a carnivore or it fed on grass despite its huge size as the bible already said in Job 40 above.

NOTE: The book of Job in the bible according to bible scholars is the oldest book of the bible, and the events there occured before the flood of Noah (I don't have any personal proof of that one, but that is what people who have studied bible history say). If that happens to be the case, it can as well be concluded that these dinosaurs would have been wiped off the earth during the time of Noah's flood!

But first, like i said, google the Sauropod dinosaur and compare it with that monster God described in Job 40 and tell me how else it would have been recorded so accurately in the bible before scientists discovered dinosaurs existed if the word of God was not true.

Any further questions? I am open to answering them if you are willing to seek the truth


You can also read up Job 41 to see another description of some other sea monster that was described as well

question

Also read up the story behind the Tower of Babel. That was where man begot different languages.

Also read up the Eve gene. How a black man and woman can birth a white child. But a white couple cannot birth a negroid.

that is just a poor attempt in explaining the origin of man

GrabHisBalls:
Also read up the story behind the Tower of Babel. That was were man begot different languages.

fail safe story

Blakjewelry:
that is just a poor attempt in explaining the origin of man

By your shallow standards it is. No wonder you believe what you read in newspapers and textbooks written by Darwin who you never met, and he never had any evidence to prove his theory, but you have problems believing the bible. You are your own problem. The bible or "lack of evidence" is not your problem.

nelsonoba:


By your shallow standards it is. No wonder you believe what you read in newspapers and textbooks written by Darwin who you never met, and he never had any evidence to prove his theory, but you have problems believing the bible. You are your own problem. The bible or "lack of evidence" is not your problem.

lol the funny thing is you said I believe in what I read, so you reading the bible is what? the only difference between you and I is I decided to use the functional part of my brain while you still stick to the era of men who use their limited knowledge to explain their world

nice , quite reveling

There are no indication in the bible that Adam and Eve were the only humans God created at the time of creation

Blakjewelry:
lol the funny thing is you said I believe in what I read, so you reading the bible is what? the only difference between you and I is I decided to use the functional part of my brain while you still stick to the era of men who use their limited knowledge to explain their world

You use the functional part of your brain to explain the world, and that is why you would rather believe human beings evolved from a piece of rock as the evolution theory suggests, rather than believe an intelligent, Almighty being created the universe.

You use your brain and you claim to believe in 'science', but the theory of evolution in itself makes folly of the intelligence of the so-called scientists who believe in it. Do you know why? Because at the core of the theory of evolution is the myth that there was a big bang which occurred and out of it came rocks from which humans evolved. Now, IF YOU ARE A SCIENTIST, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT NEWTON'S FIRST LAW OF MOTION STATES THAT A BODY AT REST WILL CONTINUE TO BE AT REST, AND A BODY IN MOTION WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN MOTION UNTIL IT IS ACTED UPON BY AN EXTERNAL FORCE!

If the big bang caused the earth to come into existence, then WHO CREATED THE FORCE THAT CAUSED THE BANG? IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR ME, THEN IT SHOWS EITHER ONE OF TWO THINGS;

1) YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE BASICS OF SCIENCE WHICH YOU CLAIM TO BASE YOUR BELIEF ON.

2) YOU ARE A SELF-DELUDED FELLOW WHO PROBABLY KNOWS THE TRUTH, BUT DECIDES TO KEEP DECEIVING HIMSELF AND HOPING HE CAN 'WISH AWAY' THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH THAT THE WORLD WAS CREATED BY GOD.

EITHER WAY, YOU NEED JESUS TO SAVE YOU. YOU WILL STILL CONFESS THAT THERE IS A GOD WHO MADE THE WORLD, EITHER WILLINGLY WHILE YOU ARE STILL ALIVE OR WHEN YOU DIE AND YOU FACE THIS SAME GOD TO BE JUDGED BY HIM. THE CHOICE IS YOURS TO EITHER USE YOUR BRAIN RIGHT AND FOLLOW COMMON SENSE OR NOT USE YOUR BRAIN AND KEEP LYING TO YOURSELF TILL IT'S TOO LATE TO REPENT WHEN YOU DIE

nelsonoba:
This is more or less from a response I gave to somebody yesterday who was felt the bible is not a book of truth, and he had asked to know why God of the old testament was such a "wicked God that would tell Israel to go to war and wipe out other nations", and why he apparently seemed to have lowered his standards in the new testament by no longer demanding for christians to go and kill other nations like he told the Jews in old testament. His second question was, how come we have so many races and tribes and languages today if what the bible claims is true that we all came from the same Adam & Eve who in his own words "must have been arabs". Lastly, If the bible is true that God is the same yesterday, today and forever, then why did the God of the old testament look different from the God of the new testament who no longer tells people to go and kill other nations?


Let's explore some answers below to see if the bible is really accurate, and if the facts are right, then it should give every non-believer a cause to rethink why they are not born again, because if the bible says Jesus is the only way to salvation, then it must be right also, and there will be no need wasting time and delaying your surrender to Christ. Because as the same bible says, Heaven is real and hell is real, and only your personal relationship with Christ can save you when you die and face judgement for where you will spend eternity.

THE ANSWERS BELOW

1) God did not change, neither did He lower His standards. The same God of the old testament is the same God of the new testament. The only difference is that according to John 1:17 Jesus came with GRACE & TRUTH in the new testament. God's law clearly states it that THE SOUL THAT SINS SHALL DIE. THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH. In the old testament, there was no propitiation for sin, except among the Jews who understood about animal sacrifices, which were not a solution but a temporary reprieve for the consequences of their sins. Other nations in the old testament were deeply involved in sin, especially idolatry which even God himself gave a law to Moses, saying that any Israelite caught in idolatry should be put to death for that sin.

All the nations and tribes that God commanded the israelites to kill and wipe out were idolatrous nations that refused to worship the true creator. God did not create double standards when it comes to sin, and that was why if the israelites worshipped idols, they got the same punishment that God asked them to mete out to the other idol-worshipping nations too. So, in short form, God asked those nations you referred to to be killed because of their sins, not because God was just a wicked God trying to kill innocent people.

If you read Psalms 24:1 "The earth is the LORD’s, and the fullness thereof, the world and all who dwell therein." This clearly tells you that God owns the earth and all the human beings living on it, and as such, he can do whatever he pleases with them, and NOBODY CAN QUERY HIM. If you yourself owns a piece of land in your village, you can decide to build any kind of house you like on it, or you could even decide to use it for farming instead. And even if you had a building on that land, you can as well decide to pull it down, and nobody has a right to query you for what you choose to do with your property. THAT IS HOW IT IS WITH GOD AND THE EARTH. HE OWNS EARTH, HE OWNS THE LIVES OF ALL WHO LIVE ON EARTH, SO HE CAN CHOOSE TO DO WHATEVER HE DECIDES AND NOBODY CAN STOP HIM!

Murder is a sin, only because no man has the ability to give life, and as such no man should have the right to take away an innocent life. Just as robbery is a sin because you don't have the right to take away a property that does not belong to you. By that law, if you kill a man, it is wrong because you didn't give that man his life and so you have no right to take it, BUT IF GOD KILLS, IT IS RIGHT BY EVERY STANDARD BECAUSE THAT LIFE IN THE FIRST INSTANCE BELONGS TO HIM, SO HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO TAKE IT BACK IF HE SO CHOOSES.

In the new testament, it might appear to you as though God lowered his standards, but the truth is he didn't. The only difference that makes it appear so to you is just the fact that Jesus came to die on the cross to pay for the sins of man which had to be punished. The Grace that came with the death and resurrection of Jesus is what provides the legal ground for God to forgive sins if there is repentance. That same Grace is what provides the legal ground for God to delay judgement on sin for a much longer time so that every sinner will have an opportunity to repent before judgement hits. Because according to John 3:17-18

"17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. 18 Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."

So God does not take pleasure in sinners being judged and condemned, and that is why He gives a long opportunity to people to repent before they die and go to hell in judgement. As you can see, even people who blaspheme the name of God like @badman007 are still walking about freely and enjoying God's free oxygen just because of that same Grace that came with Jesus Christ. If it were in the old testament when there was no grace available for all, he may have been blasted by thunder and lightening during one of his regular blaspheming sessions.




2) To your second question about different races on earth if we all had come from the same Adam & Eve, the bible clearly states the answer in Genesis 10:25
"25 Eber had two sons. The first was named Peleg (which means “division”), for during his lifetime the people of the world were divided into different groups. His brother’s name was Joktan."

So, in Genesis 10:25, the bible clearly states that the earth divided into different PEOPLE GROUPS(RACES), and in Genesis 11:1, the bible still states that the whole earth still had one language(even though they had been divided into races at this time), but if you read further about the story of the tower of Babel in the same chapter 11, from verse 5

"5 But when the LORD came down to look at the city and the tower, 6 he said: These people are working together because they all speak the same language. This is just the beginning. Soon they will be able to do anything they want. 7 Let's go down and confuse them! We'll make them speak different languages, and they won't be able to understand each other.

8-9 So the people had to stop building the city, because the LORD confused their language and scattered them all over the earth. That's how the city of Babel+ got its name."


So these should answer your questions as to how God created one man and one woman, but today the earth has many races and languages. I have not found any other record of these outside of the bible.

3) I could give you a few more evidence to show you how accurate and true the word of God is;
a) ROUND EARTH THEORY
Long before the 17th century when scientists started discovering facts to prove that the earth was spherical, the bible had already written it that the earth was of a spherical and not a flat shape. Read Isaiah 40:22

"22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in."

Thousands of years ago, when people thought the earth was flat, the bible already recorded the earth to have a circular shape.

b) EARTH SUSPENDED IN SPACE
When do you think scientists were able to prove that the earth was floating in space and not hanging on some kind of pillars? Your guess is as good as mine. Probably sometime in the 18th or 19th or 20th century. But thousands of years ago, when there were all sorts of myths about the earth being hung on something, the bible had already recorded that the earth was hanging in space. Read Job 26:7

"7 God stretches the northern sky over empty space and hangs the earth on nothing."

c) DINOSAURS
Long before scientists/archaeologists discovered that dinosaurs once roamed the face of the earth, the bible had already recorded such kind of animals. Read Job 40:15

"15 Behold now, behemoth, which I made as well as thee; He eateth grass as an ox.

16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, And his force is in the muscles of his belly.

17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: The sinews of his thighs are knit together.

18 His bones are as tubes of brass; His limbs are like bars of iron.

19 He is the chief of the ways of God: He only that made him giveth him his sword.

20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, Where all the beasts of the field do play.

21 He lieth under the lotus-trees, In the covert of the reed, and the fen.

22 The lotus-trees cover him with their shade; The willows of the brook compass him about.

23 Behold, if a river overflow, he trembleth not; He is confident, though a Jordan swell even to his mouth.

24 Shall any take him when he is on the watch, Or pierce through his nose with a snare?"


IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT THE NAME "DINOSAUR" WASN'T COINED BY SCIENTISTS UNTIL THE 19TH CENTURY AND THAT IS WHY YOU DON'T FIND THE WORD "DINOSAUR" IN THE BIBLE BECAUSE THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE SCIENTISTS STARTED USING THE DINOSAUR WORD. But then, you may want to google the Dinosaur named Sauropod, which scientists officially recognise as the largest dinosaur to have ever lived. One of the translations of the bible put it this way in Job 40:19

"He is the foremost of God’s works; only his Maker can draw the sword against him."

Which means he is the largest or most monstrous of God's creation as well. When you google about that Sauropod, also find out what kind of food scientists discovered it ate, whether it was a carnivore or it fed on grass despite its huge size as the bible already said in Job 40 above.

NOTE: The book of Job in the bible according to bible scholars is the oldest book of the bible, and the events there occured before the flood of Noah (I don't have any personal proof of that one, but that is what people who have studied bible history say). If that happens to be the case, it can as well be concluded that these dinosaurs would have been wiped off the earth during the time of Noah's flood!

But first, like i said, google the Sauropod dinosaur and compare it with that monster God described in Job 40 and tell me how else it would have been recorded so accurately in the bible before scientists discovered dinosaurs existed if the word of God was not true.

Any further questions? I am open to answering them if you are willing to seek the truth


You can also read up Job 41 to see another description of some other sea monster that was described as well

What a waste of time. If you think I'd spend time reading this poo, you must be a joker.

Do you know the story of creation according to Edo tradition?

badman007:


What a waste of time. If you think I'd spend time reading this poo, you must be a joker.

Do you know the story of creation according to Edo tradition?

......and that exactly is how you keep perpetuating your gross ignorance! Lucifer will never allow you read it, because if you mistakingly read it with an open mind, you will end up questioning the lies and deceit Lucifer had sold to you all along. Your case is not new. I have seen so many of your type before......including cultists who mistakingly attended our church meeting because they were tracking somebody to hit, and in the process of sitting in church and hearing the truth of the gospel, they realized they had been fooled all along and today they are saved in Christ and now preaching the gospel to other people.


As for your Edo gods who you were fed with lies to make you believe they created the world, I just need to let you know that those are all lies. They are no gods. They are mere demons and evil spirits parading as gods to deceive people. I BIND AND CAST THEIR TYPE AWAY ON A REGULAR BASIS, SO THEY ARE USELESS gods.

paxonel:
There are no indication in the bible that Adam and Eve were the only humans God created at the time of creation

Read genesis

nelsonoba:


......and that exactly is how you keep perpetuating your gross ignorance! Lucifer will never allow you read it, because if you mistakingly read it with an open mind, you will end up questioning the lies and deceit Lucifer had sold to you all along. Your case is not new. I have seen so many of your type before......including cultists who mistakingly attended our church meeting because they were tracking somebody to hit, and in the process of sitting in church and hearing the truth of the gospel, they realized they had been fooled all along and today they are saved in Christ and now preaching the gospel to other people.


As for your Edo gods who you were fed with lies to make you believe they created the world, I just need to let you know that those are all lies. They are no gods. They are mere demons and evil spirits parading as gods to deceive people. I BIND AND CAST THEIR TYPE AWAY ON A REGULAR BASIS, SO THEY ARE USELESS gods.

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery. SALVATION IS PERSONAL. I feel so sorry for you.

Live your life, work hard to build your heaven on earth. Show love to the needy and less privileged. Be the best you can. No white man is coming to take you to paradise, trust me.

The fear of the afterlife has got you spell bound. I was once like you. Hopefully you see the light at some point, I'm positive you would eventually.

Faith is for the weak.

Joagbaje:


Read genesis

where in Genesis?

Keep deceiving yourselves that Adam and Eve were the only humans God created.

On the contrary, Genesis 4:17 says Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch...

Have you ever asked yourself where did Cain saw his wife to marry her ?

Is the wife not having people?
Where do they came from?

badman007:


Emancipate yourself from mental slavery. SALVATION IS PERSONAL. I feel so sorry for you.

Live your life, work hard to build your heaven on earth. Show love to the needy and less privileged. Be the best you can. No white man is coming to take you to paradise, trust me.

The fear of the afterlife has got you spell bound. I was once like you. Hopefully you see the light at some point, I'm positive you would eventually.

Faith is for the weak.

don't worry bros, I like your outward courage and appearance of boldness. I hope you will still maintain this same level of courage when you die and stand before Jesus to be judged for eternity.

I only wish this your boldness was real, but you and I know that inside of you, you're as weak as jelly, but outside you have to sound the opposite to cover your internal weakness. You don't surprise me bros

paxonel:
where in Genesis?

Keep deceiving yourselves that Adam and Eve were the only humans God created.

On the contrary, Genesis 4:17 says Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch...

Have you ever asked yourself where did Cain saw his wife to marry her ?

Is the wife not having people?
Where do they came from?

Are you aware that this was a time when human beings were living to over 900years old?

Do you know Adam and Eve had other children apart from Cain and Abel? Have you not read it in Genesis 4:25

Do you know that it is technically possible for one person to have given birth to over 100 children if they had a life span of 900 years? As a matter of fact, if I decided to be giving birth to children every 5years from the age of 50, by the time I am 550years old, I would have had 100 children (if I never had twins among them) and I would still have had another 400years ahead of me to live.

Do you also know that up until the time God brought the Israelites out of Egypt and gave them the law, people used to marry their brothers and sisters? As a matter of fact, do you know that father Abraham married his Niece? Yes! Sarah was Abraham's father's brother's daughter. So for you to think it's not possible for Cain to have married one of his sisters or relatives is totally mistaken.

nelsonoba:


don't worry bros, I like your outward courage and appearance of boldness. I hope you will still maintain this same level of courage when you die and stand before Jesus to be judged for eternity.

I only wish this your boldness was real, but you and I know that inside of you, you're as weak as jelly, but outside you have to sound the opposite to cover your internal weakness. You don't surprise me bros

The hight of weakness right here. I used to be so afraid, just like you.

The wonders of poverty.

This believe sums up how you live your life. Waiting for the castaway super Jew to come save you. The more i think about it, the more i hate religion. Love is the answer my G.

nelsonoba:


Are you aware that this was a time when human beings were living to over 900years old?

true!

Do you know Adam and Eve had other children apart from Cain and Abel? Have you not read it in Genesis 4:25

very true!

Do you know that it is technically possible for one person to have given birth to over 100 children if they had a life span of 900 years? As a matter of fact, if I decided to be giving birth to children every 5years from the age of 50, by the time I am 550years old, I would have had 100 children (if I never had twins among them) and I would still have had another 400years ahead of me to live.

you are very correct

Do you also know that up until the time God brought the Israelites out of Egypt and gave them the law, people used to marry their brothers and sisters? As a matter of fact, do you know that father Abraham married his Niece? Yes! Sarah was Abraham's father's brother's daughter. So for you to think it's not possible for Cain to have married one of his sisters or relatives is totally mistaken.

you are absolutely right in all these, Cain must have picked a wife from among his sisters, but that still do not anul the possibility that God must have created humans at various locations on the earth surface other than the Garden of Eden at the time of creation, going by the distribution of human race world wide .

I mean humans could not possibly migrate through foot walking from the Garden of Eden where Adam and Eve were created, up to places like Africa, Asia, Europe and the current America considering the distance apart.

paxonel:
true!
very true!
you are very correct
you are absolutely right in all these, Cain must have picked a wife from among his sisters, but that still do not anul the possibility that God must have created humans at various locations on the earth surface other than the Garden of Eden at the time of creation, going by the distribution of human race world wide .

I mean humans could not possibly migrate through foot walking from the Garden of Eden where Adam and Eve were created, up to places like Africa, Asia, Europe and the current America considering the distance apart.

Well......according to the bible, this is what God did.

Genesis 11:9 New King James Version (NKJV)
"9 Therefore its name is called [a]Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of ALL the earth."

If people keep walking towards a particular direction without any major course deviation, it wouldn't take more than 50years for them to get to any point on the earth's surface if they covered only 900 kilometres per year. Remember the circumference of the earth at its longest route which is around the equator is only 40,000 kilometres.......and this was a time when people were living to be hundreds of years old.

By the way, i want to assume more than 2 or 3 persons have trekked for Buhari from Lagos to Abuja or similar distances and they completed it in about 2weeks. So it doesn't require much effort for people of old to trek 900km in a year if they are determined to migrate

Joagbaje:


Read genesis

if what he is saying is that there are other people aside Adam and Eve at that time, then he is correct, and that can be clearly seen in the Bible

nelsonoba:


You use the functional part of your brain to explain the world, and that is why you would rather believe human beings evolved from a piece of rock as the evolution theory suggests, rather than believe an intelligent, Almighty being created the universe.

You use your brain and you claim to believe in 'science', but the theory of evolution in itself makes folly of the intelligence of the so-called scientists who believe in it. Do you know why? Because at the core of the theory of evolution is the myth that there was a big bang which occurred and out of it came rocks from which humans evolved. Now, IF YOU ARE A SCIENTIST, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT NEWTON'S FIRST LAW OF MOTION STATES THAT A BODY AT REST WILL CONTINUE TO BE AT REST, AND A BODY IN MOTION WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN MOTION UNTIL IT IS ACTED UPON BY AN EXTERNAL FORCE!

If the big bang caused the earth to come into existence, then WHO CREATED THE FORCE THAT CAUSED THE BANG? IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR ME, THEN IT SHOWS EITHER ONE OF TWO THINGS;

1) YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE BASICS OF SCIENCE WHICH YOU CLAIM TO BASE YOUR BELIEF ON.

2) YOU ARE A SELF-DELUDED FELLOW WHO PROBABLY KNOWS THE TRUTH, BUT DECIDES TO KEEP DECEIVING HIMSELF AND HOPING HE CAN 'WISH AWAY' THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH THAT THE WORLD WAS CREATED BY GOD.

EITHER WAY, YOU NEED JESUS TO SAVE YOU. YOU WILL STILL CONFESS THAT THERE IS A GOD WHO MADE THE WORLD, EITHER WILLINGLY WHILE YOU ARE STILL ALIVE OR WHEN YOU DIE AND YOU FACE THIS SAME GOD TO BE JUDGED BY HIM. THE CHOICE IS YOURS TO EITHER USE YOUR BRAIN RIGHT AND FOLLOW COMMON SENSE OR NOT USE YOUR BRAIN AND KEEP LYING TO YOURSELF TILL IT'S TOO LATE TO REPENT WHEN YOU DIE

no intelligent being created the world! and ni, Evolution does not say man evolved from rocks, rather it is your Bible that claims your god created man from dus, a product of rocks through weathering.

and no, no intelligent being created anything! the seeming orderliness you see among the animals for example the body parts we have are all a product of Evolution by natural selection.

natural selection weeds out imperfect designs as life keeps evolving! this is the reason you may look at legs of a cheetah as it carries it very fast chasing a prey and then you feel ''oh, the cheetah was actually designed. you look at the human brain and then you think it is actually designed just because we humans are so good at thinking.

it is a very dangerous thing for you to believe an intelligent almighty god is behind all these things. because there is nothing intelligent about the designs we see in the world! what's intelligent about the various mutations and monstrousities we see in nature that puts the various species possessing them to so much pain and discomfort to their survival and reproduction? what is the intelligence we see in the horrors of the reality of life in the jungle?

looking at the various forms of life and then concluding there is an intelligent almighty god behind it, is to say that this so called intelligent designer god is a bad engineer because of the concerns of monstrousities and mutations i mentioned above, as well as the reality of life in the jungle i also mentioned above.

as for your attacking the big-bang theory, well it is like you are trying to shoot yourself in the foot. if we extend newton's law of innertia to the existence of things why do we stop at saying a god triggerd the big-bang? why don't we extend it to who brought about your god? i am sure that's not a question you would want to answer.

there are so many questions whose answers we still don't have. but to propose that a god would fill up that space is what we call god of the gaps which further goes to confirm the fact that religion and christianity (since you have refused to call it religion), and the believe in god as a whole, is just part of the primitive man's way of coming to terms with his environment.

the primitive man looked at the rising sun and being filled with the majesty of it, would respond by saying there is a god behind it to accept our sacrifices. he looked at nature just as you have looked at it, and are thought that a designer god is behind it.

if we do not know a thing, the simple answer is that we don't know. proposing a designer god to be behind it is a lazy way to approach your universe.

today we know that the sun is a giant nuclear reactor, one of many stars in the universe and it pumps out EM waves, heat and light.

i advice you not to look at the universe and think a god is behind it. because by the time we answer the questions thereby demystifying it, we would do so much damage to your god or believe in a god. like Neil Armstrong said: one step for a man, a giant step for mankind! by saying so, he put nail to the coffin of the idea of looking at the wonders of nature and thinking there is a designer god behind it. those who worshiped the moon can now see their ''god'' demystified just as you who think a designer god created all forms of life has had your believe nullyfied by the truth if evolution.

GrabHisBalls:
Also read up the story behind the Tower of Babel. That was where man begot different languages.

if the aim of scattering them is to cause confusion so that they no longer understand each other, why then do we have many ethnic groups living side by side share words in their languages? why then do they fall into the same or similar language families?
tower of babel is not how man begot different languages.

i am sure you will agree with me that the English language spoken in the days of Shakespeare and king james is not the same one spoken in our day. what has happened to it? why doesn't it exist anymore?

long story short: languages evolved, just as life evolved.

latin use to exist, it doesn't any more? what has happened to it? can you see similarities between it and italian, french, spanish and Portuguese? could these languages be the offspring of latin?

truth is languages evolved. they were not created and certainly not at a tower of babel that did not exist

nelsonoba:


By your shallow standards it is. No wonder you believe what you read in newspapers and textbooks written by Darwin who you never met, and he never had any evidence to prove his theory, but you have problems believing the bible. You are your own problem. The bible or "lack of evidence" is not your problem.

he had evidence to prove his theory. the evidence are:
1. fossils
2. genes
3. carbon-dating

badman007:


Emancipate yourself from mental slavery. SALVATION IS PERSONAL. I feel so sorry for you.

Live your life, work hard to build your heaven on earth. Show love to the needy and less privileged. Be the best you can. No white man is coming to take you to paradise, trust me.

The fear of the afterlife has got you spell bound. I was once like you. Hopefully you see the light at some point, I'm positive you would eventually.

Faith is for the weak.

anyone who believes in god or is good because he is afraid of hell is not being good at all. remove heaven hell, the person will deny god

nelsonoba:


don't worry bros, I like your outward courage and appearance of boldness. I hope you will still maintain this same level of courage when you die and stand before Jesus to be judged for eternity.

I only wish this your boldness was real, but you and I know that inside of you, you're as weak as jelly, but outside you have to sound the opposite to cover your internal weakness. You don't surprise me bros

the same way you will stand before Allah and be judged. the same way you will not inherit etetnal life since you do not believe in the religion of osiris who is the incarnate of God and through ehose auffering and death and reaurection, he won eternal life to those who would follow him

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MiddleDimension:


no intelligent being created the world! and ni, Evolution does not say man evolved from rocks, rather it is your Bible that claims your god created man from dus, a product of rocks through weathering.

and no, no intelligent being created anything! the seeming orderliness you see among the animals for example the body parts we have are all a product of Evolution by natural selection.

natural selection weeds out imperfect designs as life keeps evolving! this is the reason you may look at legs of a cheetah as it carries it very fast chasing a prey and then you feel ''oh, the cheetah was actually designed. you look at the human brain and then you think it is actually designed just because we humans are so good at thinking.

it is a very dangerous thing for you to believe an intelligent almighty god is behind all these things. because there is nothing intelligent about the designs we see in the world! what's intelligent about the various mutations and monstrousities we see in nature that puts the various species possessing them to so much pain and discomfort to their survival and reproduction? what is the intelligence we see in the horrors of the reality of life in the jungle?

looking at the various forms of life and then concluding there is an intelligent almighty god behind it, is to say that this so called intelligent designer god is a bad engineer because of the concerns of monstrousities and mutations i mentioned above, as well as the reality of life in the jungle i also mentioned above.

as for your attacking the big-bang theory, well it is like you are trying to shoot yourself in the foot. if we extend newton's law of innertia to the existence of things why do we stop at saying a god triggerd the big-bang? why don't we extend it to who brought about your god? i am sure that's not a question you would want to answer.

there are so many questions whose answers we still don't have. but to propose that a god would fill up that space is what we call god of the gaps which further goes to confirm the fact that religion and christianity (since you have refused to call it religion), and the believe in god as a whole, is just part of the primitive man's way of coming to terms with his environment.

the primitive man looked at the rising sun and being filled with the majesty of it, would respond by saying there is a god behind it to accept our sacrifices. he looked at nature just as you have looked at it, and are thought that a designer god is behind it.

if we do not know a thing, the simple answer is that we don't know. proposing a designer god to be behind it is a lazy way to approach your universe.

today we know that the sun is a giant nuclear reactor, one of many stars in the universe and it pumps out EM waves, heat and light.

i advice you not to look at the universe and think a god is behind it. because by the time we answer the questions thereby demystifying it, we would do so much damage to your god or believe in a god. like Neil Armstrong said: one step for a man, a giant step for mankind! by saying so, he put nail to the coffin of the idea of looking at the wonders of nature and thinking there is a designer god behind it. those who worshiped the moon can now see their ''god'' demystified just as you who think a designer god created all forms of life has had your believe nullyfied by the truth if evolution.

If you claim to believe in theory of evolution, and you have not even studied it in details to see how they connected our evolution to big bang and water molecule and rocks and a unicellular organism, then that means you're not a serious person. I believe in creation, and you still need me to lecture you on the details of evolution which you claim to believe?

nelsonoba:
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If you claim to believe in theory of evolution, and you have not even studied it in details to see how they connected our evolution to big bang and water molecule and rocks and a unicellular organism, then that means you're not a serious person. I believe in creation, and you still need me to lecture you on the details of evolution which you claim to believe?

man did not evolve from rocks, pure and simple! there were several life forms that existed from man evolved!

your creation story are two which one do you believe in? the two are fundamentally different stories with one contradicting the other. so which one is it?

please learn how there is no intelligent design in the body of a giraffe here.

haha, so much for intelligent design.

@joagbaje @donnie @ubenedictus @highered


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1a1Ek-HD0

MiddleDimension:
please learn how there is no intelligent design in the body of a giraffe here.

haha, so much for intelligent design.

@joagbaje @donnie @ubenedictus @highered


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1a1Ek-HD0

I will watch it now

paxonel:
where in Genesis?

Keep deceiving yourselves that Adam and Eve were the only humans God created.

On the contrary, Genesis 4:17 says Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch...

Have you ever asked yourself where did Cain saw his wife to marry her ?

Is the wife not having people?
Where do they came from?

They intermarried. There was no law against incest then