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Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Rossikk(m): 11:10pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Mightyhaiz: 99% yes. |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Pearlqueen(f): 11:10pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Rossikk:And it is only beef that's meat in the market? The economics you're talking about is when there's no close substitute but in this case, there's no meat monopoly because there are many other meat sources. Let the Fulanis go on the strike and see if hunger and extreme poverty won't ravage them. In this business, they're the top gainers. |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Mightyhaiz: 11:14pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Rossikk:u reason like a toddler. Who do u think will suffer and starve to death when that happens? The ppl DAT will easily switch to other animal,fish,birds and even plant protein alternatives,or those whose sole occupation is rearing n selling cow 2 Likes |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Rossikk(m): 11:34pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Pearlqueen: There is NO close substitute for beef in Nigeria. if this were say England or the USA or something, where people eat a variety of meats in near equal measure, we could say yes. But in Nigeria, not less than 90% of the population rely on BEEF for their meat requirements in meals. How many times have you been to a buka and they served you chicken? Or pork? Or even goat? Nigerians only eat those meats once in a while. What they live on is cow meat. If cow meat disappeared from the market, all those other meats will shoot up in price astronomically, and become extremely scarce. In fact their sellers will turn to millionaires. Why? Because there are simply not enough of such meats in the national supply chain to fill the demand left by the exit of beef. it would 200 million people fighting to buy what maybe 20 million folks were buying previously. |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Pearlqueen(f): 11:40pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Rossikk:Are you talking to who lives in Nigeria or to who doesn't? If you go to am eatery whether bukka or what have you, you order the kind of meat you want and you'll be served with it. There is meat variety, even most people prefer fish to beef. So, get your facts right and know what you're saying. If beef becomes scarce, there are plenty plenty plenty alternative and mind you, it is not only the Fulanis who rear cows. They can't even try hoard beef because they will suffer for it. |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Rossikk(m): 11:45pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Mightyhaiz: ''Easily switch to''. Economic illiterate. Have you ever heard of the term ''supply chain''? There is no supply chain in Nigeria capable of replacing that of the Fulani herdsmen in providing meat resources to the general population of Nigerians. To develop such a supply chain would take YEARS. You are the sort who thinks that meat and fish and ''birds'' just appear in the market without any real commercial planning, strategy, or through any established supply chains. How does one start to educate a person like you? |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Rossikk(m): 12:00am On Jul 19, 2019 |
Pearlqueen: Kindly respond to the points I raised and not these irrelevancies. I spoke about the link between removing beef from the market, and the accompanying RISE IN PRICE of the 'alternatives', caused by the scarcity of meat ensuing from the beef exit. That's where we are in this debate, not whether there are alternatives to beef or not. The question is, ''are the alternatives sufficient in quantity to replace the cow meat supplies for 200 million people?'' Do we have enough chicken and pork to replace beef? NO. Can we afford to IMPORT those items in greater quantities to fill the gap? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Here is a recent study of meat consumption in Nigeria, which confirms my point: ''This study was an application of the Linear Approximate Almost Ideal Demand System (LAAIDS) model on household aggregate meat demand in Nigeria. The data used was obtained from the World Bank’s Living Standards Measurement Study (LSMS) on households in Nigeria. Previous research had studied demand only at a regional level but this study estimates meat demand at a national level. The results showed that beef was a necessity while goat, chicken and mutton were luxuries.'' https://tind-customer-agecon.s3.amazonaws.com/5dbf5f14-832d-40a5-b6bd-a7b047bdcabb?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%2A%3DUTF-8%27%27Household%2520Demand%2520for%2520Meat%2520in%2520Nigeria.pdf&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf&AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAXL7W7Q3XHXDVDQYS&Expires=1563493627&Signature=vJKfcmtLlltd9su8JEOUMaLuDNw%3D So, saying that we can rely on the more expensive ''alternatives'' is like Maria Antoinette, the famous French queen who, when told that her people were starving for lack of bread, said ''let them eat cake!'' |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Sofistcatdmoron: 3:44am On Jul 19, 2019 |
Rossikk:That is Your mindset, Anambra already has cattle ranches,,, u can a's well go home with ur cows |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by tsdarkside(m): 4:36am On Jul 19, 2019 |
mrvitalis: kiiiiikikikiki.... you mean all those okrika stuff....?? my phone is okrika....generator i dont have....air condition was a present.... you mean,you wan live on okrika food....?? |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by tsdarkside(m): 5:28am On Jul 19, 2019 |
gbosaa: interesting....where is the money they make.....?? meat is not cheap.... you would think most of them would me somehow rich.... hmmmm.... |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Perceptor(m): 6:12am On Jul 19, 2019 |
Rossikk:You are absolutely right about you claim, most of the pple who are shouting "no to ruga" cant go a day without eating cow meat. Our pple down south here are weak willed especially we Yorubas, we neva want to go outside our comfort zone, we lack determination and that is why other ethnic groups are seeing us as been weak, in fact we have actually made ourselves weak and helpless and it is even getting worse as days go by. My pple here actually blieve that cattles can only be reared by fulanis alone, no yoruba can rear cattle. You will here pple saying "if you say fulanis shld go, can you or any of your family rear cattle. That is how weak we have becom and the consequence is what we are seeing now that a primite human of low intelligence can make a stupid claim and still be right. The Igbos may be proud and annoying but they are strong and determinate. If other ethnic groups have such strong will as the igbos, we would have gone our separate ways for better. 1 Like |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Acidosis(m): 7:49am On Jul 19, 2019 |
Rossikk: Some people don't eat Fulani meat. There is chicken, goat meat, turkey, cat fish, Titus and other kind of fish. We even have pig, and Nigeria got the biggest pig farm in the whole of West Africa (and one of the biggest consumer in Africa). Keep on posting useless threads about Fulani meat. I should also tell you that those Herdsmen don't eat cow meat. They rare the animals, rape them, and sell them to you. On the side, they rare goats which they eat and feed their families. |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by oyatz(m): 7:54am On Jul 19, 2019 |
OUR OIL alone is not what is sustaining the economy. Our OIL is the largest source of income for the Government but NOT necessarily the sole determinants of our economy, that's why oil only account for a small percentage of our GDP. 1)Every economic activities (including cattle rearing) sustain the economy. 2) If every citizen stop producing what they produce and we all wait for OIL money,there will be chaos in the land. For instance, let's take few items for illustration. * All Cassava and Yams producers stop working. Nigerians will be forced to use money received from the sales of OIL to import these cassava and Yams at international prices. * If All Timber, Cocoa, Palm oil decide to stop producing these items, the left over of the OIL money will be used to import all these products, again at international prices. *If ALL Herdsmen stop producing, very little money will be left to import meat from abroad and this will be affordable by only about 5% of the population. So with all other sectors of the economy shutting down leaving OIL, massive economic devastations will hit the Country with millions of the citizens leaving the country. delugajackson: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by CodeTemplar: 8:24am On Jul 19, 2019 |
Rossikk:They equally have Christians but why do they wait for oil money from Christians? Use what God gave u more often. |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by CodeTemplar: 8:26am On Jul 19, 2019 |
Rossikk:It is just like asking why they are in a country with people they are killing? |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Rossikk(m): 4:58pm On Jul 20, 2019 |
Acidosis: Economic illiteracy on display. I won't even bother responding to your post. Go back and re-read the entire thread, so you can see where we are in this debate. 1 Like |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Rossikk(m): 5:04pm On Jul 20, 2019 |
oyatz: Omo thanks jare. People are just dumb. Even when you try to educate them on the catastrophic economic and health consequences of the disappearance of beef from the market, they still write illiterate garbage like ''we have chicken and goats and fish''. Explain to them the impossible mathematics (and non-existent logistics) of replacing beef with these other more expensive and scarcer products in a country of 200 million, and they've no interest in thinking or reasoning along. Is it low IQ or poor education or just mental laziness? |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Rossikk(m): 5:25pm On Jul 20, 2019 |
Sapiosexuality: I said the ethnic hate displayed on Nairaland was exaggerated and does not reflect the true situation across Nigeria. I maintain that position. 99% of Nigerians get along just fine. |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by emerged01(m): 6:49pm On Jul 20, 2019 |
Nobody hates Fulani. I still believe there is more to this issue of herdmen. Ruga project is a scam of which I'm totally against. Cow rearing business is personal one,govt has no right to demand for land for herdmens to carry out business. They can choose a state wherever they want to build ranches privately for their cow rearing not for settlement. |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jul 20, 2019 |
Op is right, some people are weak. |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by Sapiosexuality(m): 7:16pm On Jul 20, 2019 |
Rossikk:Nairaland? We were never talking about Nairaland. Go back and read the post. |
Re: If You Hate Fulanis, Why Do You Chop Their Meat? by rosebowl01(m): 12:12am On Jul 21, 2019 |
Rossikk: Hi bros, first of, I'm a guy, not madam. To the issue, I've followed your posts on this forum and can see that your intention is noble and very good, but you are off on some things; I disagree with you that climate change is the primary cause of their southward expansion/migration (depending on where you stand). History is very very clear on this; was it climate change that drove Usman Dan Fodio to Sokoto to kill leaders in Hausaland, and then southward to all other Hausa Kingdoms, middle-belt, Ilorin and so on? You mention that if they don't migrate southward, their herds will not survive, care to explain how the herds in the dry and arid countries of Mali, Mauritania, Sudan, Chad etc survive? Is it not the same Fulani people that herd cattle in those countries? How does cattle survive Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and West Texas deserts? Face the reality staring you in the face. Challenge your fear, and set your self free! Thank you. |
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