imam07: Why talking like this. Can Iran even withstand Saudi Arabia?
Without the support of the allies and supply of weapons from the allies, Saudi Arabia will crumble against Iran if the war is prolonged. Why? Because Saudi Arabia buys weapons while Iran makes weapons
You are making me laugh with this your post. Just humour me and answer this simple question, if The US were to attack Iran today, what do you think will be the outcome of that battle?
All I did was to counter your statement comparing Iran with Iraq or Libya.
If US was to Attack Iran, Both countries will bleed! Iran infrastructure will be badly damaged, but so many body bags will be heading to US, and this is what Americans won't accept. Unless you have a genuine reason to start a war with Iran, else the protest in Several cities will force US to end the war before it even starts.
I would have schooled you about how Iran's territory is a better place to fight defensive battles, but I really don't have time for that.
imam07: child talk. Make they use am nah. U think diplomatic disagreement means both should be fighting with nuclear weapons. Since u were born tell us how many nuclear weapons countries have shot to their enemy. Little conflicts like this, people will be shouting nuclear weapons as if when they are using ps4. Millions of dollars Iran suppose use to boost its economy. They are wasting it on unnecessary projects.
Give Iran the credit it deserves. They have been living under constant international sanctions from time to time. How many countries can survive that? Not even USA. But Iran economy is still better than Naija economy that enjoys international supports. Being under sanctions, managing their economy too doesn't mean that they should have zero consideration for strengthening their military apparatus
Akathriel: The "Belligerent Bastard Children of Yahweh in Tel Aviv" have issued instructions to their "stooge goys" in Washington and London to start another kosher war.
These whores always do as they’re told by their Zionist masters in Tel Aviv. They have been escalating step by step as instructed leading inevitably towards war.
Economic strangulation is an act of war.
Seizing the Iranian tanker off Gibraltar is an act of war.
Encroaching on Iranian Airspace with your useless "Stealthy Drone" is an act of war.
Conducting cyber warfare against Iran is an act of war.
Sponsoring MEK terror against Iran is an act of war.
Not that they have been particularly coy or surreptitious about this. There have been threats to “obliterate” Iran both from Tel Aviv and the Jewnited Snakes of Amerika virtually on a daily basis for the past 20 years.
Trying to pretend otherwise or spout hot air about “diplomacy” or “restraint” is an exercise in futility. You don’t wait for a rattlesnake to strike.
It’s not a question of if there will be a war, the war has already begun. It actually began quite a while ago. That’s the reality of it.
Ever since General Wesley Clark (Retired 4-Star US Army General & Supreme Allied Commander of NATO) revealed the plan to take out 7 Countries in the Middle East & North Afrika beginning with Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & ending with Iran, the war-mongering bastards have been cooking up series of false-flag just to justify the invasion of Iran like they did to Iraq.
In 2007, Dick Cheney, Amerikan Vice President in the Bush Administration, wanted to "stage" an attack on an Amerikan warship - using Amerikan personnel dressed as Iranians in small vessels resembling Iranian patrol boats - to justify a war with Iran.
Guess what? They did it in 2019 by attacking two "Japanese Tankers" in the Iranian Strait of Hormuz while the Japanese PM was in Tehran having a coffee with the Iranian leadership.
And when the Amerikan bastards saw that the entire world did not buy the false-flag, they activated "Plan B" - Flying a completely "Useless Drone" in Stealth Mode to encroach on Iranian Airspace - and the $220 Million flying coffin was shot down by an outdated Air Defense System.
If not that Trump and his fellow perfumed-military Generals are bereft of a fully functioning human brains, why would Iran decide to attack two “Japan-related” tankers while the Japanese head of state is in their country?
One thing is certain; This war that is itching Amerika in her belly, is coming - and will be very expensive in body bags going back to Amerikan cities, ships and aircraft littering the sea bed and land, all around the Gulf and up to the Mediterranean and Caspian - leading to the eventual collapse of the United Snakes of Amerikan.
I trust the EU and some other Amerikan "eye-service" allies to declare neutrality when the bombs start flying.
The Arab tribes of Iraq, from 2003 onwards gave the Amerikan occupation forces in Iraq hell. 14 out of the total 16 battalions of the Amerikan military were effectively bogged down with no end in sight.
They were chasing insurgents who chose where and when to hit, armored columns were shredded by daisy chained IED’s and the children of Saddam Hussein (Iraqi snipers) were instilling terror into the hearts of Coalition troops….
Needless to say, all the uploaded videos of IED attacks, and all of many sniper videos were mysteriously deleted from YouTube.
Syria is already organizing the Arab tribes, … their final declaration was ominous for any occupiers. They promised to evict the Amerikan military and expel lackey Kurds. Interestingly enough, even Iraqi tribal leaders showed up at the last big conference in Syria.
Amerikan, British, French and SDF Kurds will bleed volumes in (Northern) Syria. The fighting will be close and personal. (Because) Arab and Iranian fighters have learned how to negate air power.
It's an old Soviet tactic, used especially at Stalingrad, nicknamed by the Soviets "to grab and hug the enemy". When Air Forces cannot engage effectively, equivalent of losing your queen in chess right at the start.
In 2006, using this tactic to neutralise Israeli air power, 3000 Hezbollah fighters stopped 75,000 Israeli IDF troops and two armored battalions. 44 out of the 400 Israeli Merkava MBT’s were totally destroyed. In essence, the Israeli forces were not even able to hold even the smallest of Lebanese border villages.
Iranian "General Salami" recently made a trip to Syria, and said ” There is a whole Islamic Army ready to engage in total war against arrogant powers".
Iran has brought in about 40-50 thousand Afghan volunteers; there are also Chechen volunteers in their thousands (who routed the Ukrainian military in 2015 in the Donbass, who fight much like Hezbollah, and are hard lethal in artillery. Just ask the Ukies)
There are tens of thousands of hardcore Iranian Basij volunteers, and the Basij number around 17 million in Iran, so there will be no shortage of volunteers.
There are Pakistani’s, Malaysians, Indonesians, along with many thousands of former terrorists who have been re-educated, who now know who the real enemy is, and are ready to go.
This is why I laugh when I see teenagers on Nairaland whose brain are yet to fully develop - in their ignorance, rush to comment on Geo-political issues which even their fathers at home know absolutely nothing about, except digesting whatever they watch on CNN & BBC (no offense meant).
Times have changed and this will be a different war. Their (Amerika, UK and France) small bases and limited troops in the Middle East will quickly be overrun and taken prisoner if they are lucky enough not to be annihilated.
I trust Mother Russia to condemn the warring parties and suing for peace with her mouth while covertly supplying Iran with her sophisticated & state-of-the-art military gears that will take Amerika back to the stone age.
And then, we have China, who regards Pakistan and the Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon (“Arch of Stability”) as an integral, vital and indispensable part of its crucial and gargantuan OBR Silk Roads.
The Chinese have already linked up Pakistan and Iran, soon they will link up Iraq and Syria. The Chinese are also building a massive port in Lebanon, and plan on building another massive port in Yemen as soon as the Houthi’s prevail.
China looks forward to "US&Co" being expelled from the region. and will supply the forces of the "Axis of Resistance" with all the cheap, yet very lethal weapons needed for this most important endeavor.
This long-awaited war will come inevitably and consume all the children of Satan in Washington, London, Tel Aviv, Paris & Riyadh.
Do you know USA spends billions on intelligence and you think they not aware of all this you just said.if you behind a computer or a phone with limited resources can definitely they already know
All I did was to counter your statement comparing Iran with Iraq or Libya.
If US was to Attack Iran, Both countries will bleed! Iran infrastructure will be badly damaged, but so many body bags will be heading to US, and this is what Americans won't accept. Unless you have a genuine reason to start a war with Iran, else the protest in Several cities will force US to end the war before it even starts.
I would have schooled you about how Iran's territory is a better place to fight defensive battles, but I really don't have time for that.
Nah, what the US is likely to suffer will amount to nothing more than a minor injury, Iran on the other hand will be destroyed and that's just if the US decide to abide by human rights and use minimal force. Should the US decide to damn the consequences and unleash the full force of their military on Iran, they have the military capability to literally wipe Iran off the face of the earth. As for your claim of schooling me, I'll advice you to keep that to yourself because it's obvious you are the one in need of a schooling
Nah, what the US is likely to suffer will amount to nothing more than a minor injury, Iran on the other hand will be destroyed and that's just if the US decide to abide by human rights and use minimal force. Should the US decide to damn the consequences and unleash the full force of their military on Iran, they have the military capability to literally wipe Iran off the face of the earth. As for your claim of schooling me, I'll advice you to keep that to yourself because it's obvious you are the one in need of a schooling
You are still sounding ignorant, no matter how mighty you think you are, you can never wipe a country or people out of the face of this earth.
@ Bolded, this just shows how ignorant you are. How can you fight a country like Iran and claim no harm will be upon US, dude stop disgracing us abeg, Nigerians are quite reasonable.
They are baiting for a crush so they can have someone to blame for their failure. The government is crumbling under sanctions. I'd expect the US and EU to call off all respites and tighten the nooses more and harder so the oppressive regime can crumble under its own weight without a single shot. This will also help to keep the civilian population safer.
Quelme: The Iranians are not bluffing at all. This is a "major" escalation of the already tensed situation in the middle east.
You are still sounding ignorant, no matter how mighty you think you are, you can never wipe a country or people out of the face of this earth.
@ Bolded, this just shows how ignorant you are. How can you fight a country like Iran and claim no harm will be upon US, dude stop disgracing us abeg, Nigerians are quite reasonable.
You are not just sounding ignorant, you are also illiterate and can't comprehend simple English. Firstly, I said the US have the military capability to wipe Iran off the face of the earth, does that mean they will do it? Most likely not but do they have the military capability to do it? Absolutely yes!! I mean all they need to do is drop a nuclear warhead on every Iranian city and Iran is gone. And secondly, I didn't say no harm will befall the US, I said it will be minor. What can Iran do to the US apart from the US losing some soldiers and military hardware? The fact is that The US will crush Iran in a matter of weeks and the battle won't even be close
sammyj: I pity Iran. Hopefully Trump and the west might find ways of clamping down the wings of this Iranians that solely rely on the western technology and economy!!
There's is nothing like western technology, technology is human achievement and it is criminal for any country to monopolize it. Why don't you call paper making, printing, compass and gunpowder Chinese technology for the simple fact that they are all Chinese inventions?Don't forget that the modern Iranians were descendants of ancient parsians who rivalled ancient Greeks in almost all areas of science and technology. Without the achievement of the ancient people in mathematics, alchemy, astronomy, architecture ,paper making and printing, the modern world as we know it wouldn't be possible. Do you even know that the number system used globally was invented by the Indians? The Chinese began the experimental work in explosives that was later redeveloped into bombs.please read more to understand more.
The three of you are a bunch of ignoramuses. Go and get informed before you quote me again with your ignorant posts. Theresa May is still the British Prime minister
Mr ignorant go through the post & see the British pm mentioned olodo
According to the Book of Revelation Armageddon is the prophesied location of a gathering of armies for a battle during the end times, variously interpreted as either a literal or a symbolic location. The term is also used in a generic sense to refer to any end of the world scenario.
Rev 16:14,16-19: "For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. … And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armaged´don. And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath."
The City in Question is Israel and in my opinion, Babylon is the USA (I could be wrong though).
imam07: what is hard nut to break? U better don't say what u dont know. Do u realize d rate at which Iranian citizens are suffering because of d US sanctions. Very soon US will bring down the present government and install their choice.
You say your wish and think it is the reality. The US will never orchestrate a regime change in Iran. They don't have both the guts and means to do it. The Iranians might be fed up with sanctions and the regime but the US is an enemy to every Iranian.
You that is upgraded, can you please tell me who the current prime minister of Britain is? I will be waiting for you answer and if you don't answer it then you must be a fool to be quoting me to say this rubbish
imam07: child talk. Make they use am nah. U think diplomatic disagreement means both should be fighting with nuclear weapons. Since u were born tell us how many nuclear weapons countries have shot to their enemy. Little conflicts like this, people will be shouting nuclear weapons as if when they are using ps4. Millions of dollars Iran suppose use to boost its economy. They are wasting it on unnecessary projects.
Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons. The only country that has nuclear weapons in the region is Isreal. As for Saudi Arabia, I don't think they can withstand the Iranians in a war. The Saudis are lazy people without much achievement in science and technology. Unlike Iran, Saudi Arabia imports almost all his armaments from the US and Europe without actually producing anything. Iran has achieved a lot in science and technology. The country produces almost all its weapons system. It is a semi industrialized country which is why the Western world hates Iran because they always want countries they can control and dictate to as they are doing in Africa. For a proof of what I am saying, Iran has the largest automobile production capacity in the Middle East. The only two countries that are slightly ahead of Iran in the region are Isreal and Turkey. To prove me wrong do a little research on Iran scientific achievement and industrial productions.
You are not just sounding ignorant, you are also illiterate and can't comprehend simple English. Firstly, I said the US have the military capability to wipe Iran off the face of the earth, does that mean they will do it? Most likely not but do they have the military capability to do it? Absolutely yes!! I mean all they need to do is drop a nuclear warhead on every Iranian city and Iran is gone. And secondly, I didn't say no harm will befall the US, I said it will be minor. What can Iran do to the US apart from the US losing some soldiers and military hardware? The fact is that The US will crush Iran in a matter of weeks and the battle won't even be close
If you read about the Vietnam war, you will know that it’s not that easy my brother. In the course of the war, close to 60,000 US soldiers died with more that 350,000 injured. At a point they realised that there is no way they can win the war so they RAN away. The effect of that war is still been felt in the US today.
Iran is a difficult case, they recently shot down a US drone recently, the US did nothing.
Mr ignorant go through the post & see the British pm mentioned olodo
Why are you so foolish like this? Where in that post did you see another prime minister that is not Theresa may mentioned? Since you seem to have eyes to see what others can't see, can you please go back to the post and tell us what the name of this your imaginary PM of Britain is? Who is the current prime minister of Britain? I am waiting for your answer and if you don't answer it then you must be a fool to be quoting me to say this rubbish
Akathriel: The "Belligerent Bastard Children of Yahweh in Tel Aviv" have issued instructions to their "stooge goys" in Washington and London to start another kosher war.
These whores always do as they’re told by their Zionist masters in Tel Aviv. They have been escalating step by step as instructed leading inevitably towards war.
Economic strangulation is an act of war.
Seizing the Iranian tanker off Gibraltar is an act of war.
Encroaching on Iranian Airspace with your useless "Stealthy Drone" is an act of war.
Conducting cyber warfare against Iran is an act of war.
Sponsoring MEK terror against Iran is an act of war.
Not that they have been particularly coy or surreptitious about this. There have been threats to “obliterate” Iran both from Tel Aviv and the Jewnited Snakes of Amerika virtually on a daily basis for the past 20 years.
Trying to pretend otherwise or spout hot air about “diplomacy” or “restraint” is an exercise in futility. You don’t wait for a rattlesnake to strike.
It’s not a question of if there will be a war, the war has already begun. It actually began quite a while ago. That’s the reality of it.
Ever since General Wesley Clark (Retired 4-Star US Army General & Supreme Allied Commander of NATO) revealed the plan to take out 7 Countries in the Middle East & North Afrika beginning with Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & ending with Iran, the war-mongering bastards have been cooking up series of false-flag just to justify the invasion of Iran like they did to Iraq.
In 2007, Dick Cheney, Amerikan Vice President in the Bush Administration, wanted to "stage" an attack on an Amerikan warship - using Amerikan personnel dressed as Iranians in small vessels resembling Iranian patrol boats - to justify a war with Iran.
Guess what? They did it in 2019 by attacking two "Japanese Tankers" in the Iranian Strait of Hormuz while the Japanese PM was in Tehran having a coffee with the Iranian leadership.
And when the Amerikan bastards saw that the entire world did not buy the false-flag, they activated "Plan B" - Flying a completely "Useless Drone" in Stealth Mode to encroach on Iranian Airspace - and the $220 Million flying coffin was shot down by an outdated Air Defense System.
If not that Trump and his fellow perfumed-military Generals are bereft of a fully functioning human brains, why would Iran decide to attack two “Japan-related” tankers while the Japanese head of state is in their country?
One thing is certain; This war that is itching Amerika in her belly, is coming - and will be very expensive in body bags going back to Amerikan cities, ships and aircraft littering the sea bed and land, all around the Gulf and up to the Mediterranean and Caspian - leading to the eventual collapse of the United Snakes of Amerikan.
I trust the EU and some other Amerikan "eye-service" allies to declare neutrality when the bombs start flying.
The Arab tribes of Iraq, from 2003 onwards gave the Amerikan occupation forces in Iraq hell. 14 out of the total 16 battalions of the Amerikan military were effectively bogged down with no end in sight.
They were chasing insurgents who chose where and when to hit, armored columns were shredded by daisy chained IED’s and the children of Saddam Hussein (Iraqi snipers) were instilling terror into the hearts of Coalition troops….
Needless to say, all the uploaded videos of IED attacks, and all of many sniper videos were mysteriously deleted from YouTube.
Syria is already organizing the Arab tribes, … their final declaration was ominous for any occupiers. They promised to evict the Amerikan military and expel lackey Kurds. Interestingly enough, even Iraqi tribal leaders showed up at the last big conference in Syria.
Amerikan, British, French and SDF Kurds will bleed volumes in (Northern) Syria. The fighting will be close and personal. (Because) Arab and Iranian fighters have learned how to negate air power.
It's an old Soviet tactic, used especially at Stalingrad, nicknamed by the Soviets "to grab and hug the enemy". When Air Forces cannot engage effectively, equivalent of losing your queen in chess right at the start.
In 2006, using this tactic to neutralise Israeli air power, 3000 Hezbollah fighters stopped 75,000 Israeli IDF troops and two armored battalions. 44 out of the 400 Israeli Merkava MBT’s were totally destroyed. In essence, the Israeli forces were not even able to hold even the smallest of Lebanese border villages.
Iranian "General Salami" recently made a trip to Syria, and said ” There is a whole Islamic Army ready to engage in total war against arrogant powers".
Iran has brought in about 40-50 thousand Afghan volunteers; there are also Chechen volunteers in their thousands (who routed the Ukrainian military in 2015 in the Donbass, who fight much like Hezbollah, and are hard lethal in artillery. Just ask the Ukies)
There are tens of thousands of hardcore Iranian Basij volunteers, and the Basij number around 17 million in Iran, so there will be no shortage of volunteers.
There are Pakistani’s, Malaysians, Indonesians, along with many thousands of former terrorists who have been re-educated, who now know who the real enemy is, and are ready to go.
This is why I laugh when I see teenagers on Nairaland whose brain are yet to fully develop - in their ignorance, rush to comment on Geo-political issues which even their fathers at home know absolutely nothing about, except digesting whatever they watch on CNN & BBC (no offense meant).
Times have changed and this will be a different war. Their (Amerika, UK and France) small bases and limited troops in the Middle East will quickly be overrun and taken prisoner if they are lucky enough not to be annihilated.
I trust Mother Russia to condemn the warring parties and suing for peace with her mouth while covertly supplying Iran with her sophisticated & state-of-the-art military gears that will take Amerika back to the stone age.
And then, we have China, who regards Pakistan and the Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon (“Arch of Stability”) as an integral, vital and indispensable part of its crucial and gargantuan OBR Silk Roads.
The Chinese have already linked up Pakistan and Iran, soon they will link up Iraq and Syria. The Chinese are also building a massive port in Lebanon, and plan on building another massive port in Yemen as soon as the Houthi’s prevail.
China looks forward to "US&Co" being expelled from the region. and will supply the forces of the "Axis of Resistance" with all the cheap, yet very lethal weapons needed for this most important endeavor.
This long-awaited war will come inevitably and consume all the children of Satan in Washington, London, Tel Aviv, Paris & Riyadh.
Dude take a chill pill, the Israeli's you see today are not the Israelites of the Bible, the are of Khazarian origin. Do some research
You are not just sounding ignorant, you are also illiterate and can't comprehend simple English. Firstly, I said the US have the military capability to wipe Iran off the face of the earth, does that mean they will do it? Most likely not but do they have the military capability to do it? Absolutely yes!! I mean all they need to do is drop a nuclear warhead on every Iranian city and Iran is gone. And secondly, I didn't say no harm will befall the US, I said it will be minor. What can Iran do to the US apart from the US losing some soldiers and military hardware? The fact is that The US will crush Iran in a matter of weeks and the battle won't even be close
You don't not use nuclear weapons unless it's being used on you first, there are rules guiding the use of nuclear war heads. so I find it funny how you include nuclear weapons in a possible conflict with a country that is not even a nuclear armed state.
I was expecting you to me how US will crack Iran's defensive position in her mountainous territory, how they will be able to handle the several battles that will spring up in the middle east, how they will be able to protect Isreal and Saudi at the same time confronting Iran, how they will be able to keep the strait of hormuz open, etc not some nuclear BS.
And spare me that Bullshit of minor harm on US, I read and understood what you typed clearly, and I will say again, you know nothing about any possible conflict in ME, US has thousands of troops in the middle east, if conflict breaks out, Iran will smash every single US base in Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia etc, all countries in the middle east are at the range of Iran's missile, not one is spared, not ONE. US won't even win a battle with Iran within a year, they have been battling Talibans for so many years now, what have they achieved? do you know how difficult it will be to conquer a nation like Iran, a nation of 80 million people who are proud of their identity and will do everything to fight foreign aggressors, do you know how mountainous Iran is and how difficult it will be to move in tanks and equipment to Iran or do you think only airstrikes can make them bow?
Do you know what a conflict with Iran will do to US economy? the dollar will be effected, there will be inflation, world energy supply would be obstructed, is that what you call minor?
Guy abeg go read, no they fall our hand, you are sounding more funny.
Why are you so foolish like this? Where in that post did you see another prime minister that is not Theresa may mentioned? Since you seem to have eyes to see what others can't see, can you please go back to the post and tell us what the name of this your imaginary PM of Britain is? Who is the current prime minister of Britain? I am waiting for your answer and if you don't answer it then you must be a fool to be quoting me to say this rubbish
my apologies but Google.. to see that Theresa may has resigned & isn't performing any political duty. the Parliament is yet to vote between two contesting candidates
If you read about the Vietnam war, you will know that it’s not that easy my brother. In the course of the war, close to 60,000 US soldiers died with more that 350,000 injured. At a point they realised that there is no way they can win the war so they RAN away. The effect of that war is still been felt in the US today.
Iran is a difficult case, they recently shot down a US drone recently, the US did nothing.
US military capability has developed a thousand times better than it was during the Viet nam war. Don't compare those times to now. And what did you expect US to do to Iran for bringing down a drone? Bomb them? It was just a drone. If the Iranian so much believe in themselves, let them bring down one US manned aircraft or fire on the numerous US warships that are in the Persian gulf and see if they are not reduced to rubble. They won't try it though, they know the consequences of that
sammyj: You think you can win war or battles through proxy militia without technology invented and monitored by the west. Time will tell who is dull between us!!
Russia which just sold S-400 to Turkey which is more advanced than US Patriot Missile system and China with 5G which is 20 times faster US 4G in Telecommunications all needs the West to monitor them abi
my apologies but Google.. to see that Theresa may has resigned & isn't performing any political duty. the Parliament is yet to vote between two contesting candidates
I don't need to Google anything, I am an avid follower of British politics. Theresa may resigned but her resignation does not take effect until a new PM is elected and she hands over to him. So she is still the PM and will continue acting as such until the new PM is sworn in .
You can imagine the nonsense coming from so called "educated" people on this forum. I am really shocked at the level of ignorance of Nigerians, some times to come Nairaland dey tire me. This is just the same thing they were saying about how powerful Saddam and Gaddafi were until reality dawned on them when the real showdown began
bro, that's why I never reacted when Wole Soyinka said Nigeria is breeding a generation of illiterates. The level of ignorance in this country can deplete the ozone layer in minutes!
Iran is a third world country to begin with.
Iraq would have eclipsed them in 1994 if the US didn't interven in the gulf war.
Iran is not even a regional power.
Iran's level of development is ranked at 145 in 185 countries.