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Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Nobody: 7:57am On Jul 29, 2019
Wait oo... What has Shi'ites done that killer herdsmen have not done even over with impunity? Is it because they don't also have high ranking politicians to support or defend them or what? Shouldn't the federal government also proscribe Killer herdsmen as terrorists considering their phantom killings and destruction of both public and private properties? This country is a funny place, highly biased!!

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Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Levant: 7:59am On Jul 29, 2019
ConqueredWest:
IMN=Shi'ites

Unban IMN now

IMN is a Shi'ite organization. Not all Shi'ites are affiliated with it. It just happens that IMN is the largest Shi'ite group in the country.

You can actually be a Shi'ite without belonging to the IMN. A Japanese Shi'ite, an Iraqi Shi'ite, American Shi'ite, Lebanese Shi'ite, Moroccan Shi'ite etc do not belong to the IMN. IMN is a local Nigerian Shi'ite organization that not all Nigerian Shi'ite Muslims even belong to.

Just like not all Sunni Muslims in Nigeria belong to NASFAT and Boko Haram.

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Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Bluntemperor: 8:01am On Jul 29, 2019
Who Shiites help.let their Iran godfathers come and help them but let them first help themselves with their destabilizing acts in the Middle East.since they don't recognize any govt in power,no wonder Iran wants to turn the Saudi land to red and blue,bombing and destroying Yemen's land and sea under fluke pretentious of religious rascality.No responsible and serious govt will look other way while it's internal security is threatened by known and sponsored external enemies.
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by gidgiddy: 8:06am On Jul 29, 2019
The government of Buhari is pure evil. The failure of this government to manage peaceful agitation in the case of IPOB and IMN led to violence. Then the government turned around to ban both organisations

How can a government ban protesters and declare them terrorists because protest turned violent? That is tantamount to reducing terrorism to childs play
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by awgumayor: 8:10am On Jul 29, 2019
PROSCRIPTION. Every small sects or groups government should deal legally they rush to proscrbe or use force, that brought the deadly monster called boko haram. Yesterday it was IPOB, today it's IMN, who knows who it might be tomorrow whether it will be Ohaneze or Afenifere, or even Nigeria as a whole will be proscribed as a terrorist country.

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Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by BRASH: 8:10am On Jul 29, 2019
MyMouth:
It is obvious from comments above that some people are seriously praying for problem to erupt in this country. How on earth would any reasonable peace loving person support the activities of this group? Am a Muslim but will never support fanaticism. You guys want the government to treat these guys with kid gloves right? Just like the government treated Boko Haram but the became what they are today. The thing I have come to realize is that, most of those supporting these people are igbos(ipob) who pray and hope the issue would escalate and destroy the north so they can have their biafra. You guys will continue to fail just like will continue to fail in your quest to lead this country. Have NEVER seen such terrible, hateful people before angry
All muslims are fanatics. That's why guys refer to non muslims as infidels. Thats why u attack anybody that abandons islam for other religion. Thats why u attack anybody who dares talk about mohamed or the koran. Thats why buhari refused to free leah sharibu. I can go on and on. You are not better than the shiites. You are all the same. Even on nairaland, u want people to swear an oath b4 commenting on muslim thread,but u are free to say rubbish on a christian thread without any restrain or restriction. I would said something, bt i don't want one useless mode to ban me. So keep quiet and stop being a hypocrite

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Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Lovelive: 8:24am On Jul 29, 2019
PARACLETOS:
Wait oo... What has Shi'ites done that killer herdsmen have not done even over with impunity? Is it because they don't also have high ranking politicians to support or defend them or what? Shouldn't the federal government also proscribe Killer herdsmen as terrorists considering their phantom killings and destruction of both public and private properties? This country is a funny place, highly biased!!
"This country is a funny place, highly biased!!!" especially under uncle B.
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Guest14(m): 8:28am On Jul 29, 2019
mrvitalis:

U are a sunni muslim ...so i expect u to be biased
Sunni are the problems with this world

Clueless wahabist. Can't u make sense for once?
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Lovelive: 8:29am On Jul 29, 2019
awgumayor:
PROSCRIPTION. Every small sects or groups government should deal legally they rush to proscrbe or use force, that brought the deadly monster called boko haram. Yesterday it was IPOB, today it's IMN, who knows who it might be tomorrow whether it will be Ohaneze or Afenifere, or even Nigeria as a whole will be proscribed as a terrorist country.
Over to you ZON.Bs and uncle B. fanatics supporters/ defenders.
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by mrvitalis(m): 8:34am On Jul 29, 2019
Guest14:


Clueless wahabist. Can't u make sense for once?

Just add rich
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by texazzpete(m): 9:05am On Jul 29, 2019
MyMouth:
It is obvious from comments above that some people are seriously praying for problem to erupt in this country. How on earth would any reasonable peace loving person support the activities of this group? Am a Muslim but will never support fanaticism. You guys want the government to treat these guys with kid gloves right? Just like the government treated Boko Haram but the became what they are today. The thing I have come to realize is that, most of those supporting these people are igbos(ipob) who pray and hope the issue would escalate and destroy the north so they can have their biafra. You guys will continue to fail just like will continue to fail in your quest to lead this country. Have NEVER seen such terrible, hateful people before angry

You are scum. So much bile and ethnic bias in one post.

Also, you don’t have to worry about ‘igbos destroying the North’. Your people are already doing a good job of destroying that place. You just don’t see it because your elite have succeeded in garnering power and money for themselves.

In all indices - education, health, social justice - the North is retrogressing. Security is a major challenge, between Boko Haram, Al Qaeda and the marauders in Zamfara. You’re in deep shit!

Back to the IMN/Shiite issue. This is an own goal by this administration. They’ve pushed the sect to the wall, and are now trying to proscribe them based on things that are only a fraction of the mayhem inflicted by Miyetti Allah.

Hope this doesn’t backfire.
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by MartinsD12(m): 9:37am On Jul 29, 2019
Levant:
GOVERNMENT OUTLAWED CRIMINALITY OF IMN, NOT FREEDOM OF WORSHIP -- PRESIDENCY

Presidency says proscription of Islamic Movement of Nigeria (IMN) has nothing to do with banning the larger numbers of peaceful and law abiding Shiites in the country from practicing their religion, instead it was to discourage wanton violence, murder and willful destruction of public and private property.

The Presidency explains that contrary to the claim by IMN that it had been banned from practicing its religion, President Buhari's administration has not banned Shiites from observing their five daily prayers and going to Mecca to perform the Holy pilgrimage.

Their position is blatantly false and deceptive.

The IMN is deliberately changing the narrative in order to gain sympathy and divert the attention of the world from its terrorist activities, including attacking soldiers, killing policemen and a youth corps member, destroying government ambulances and public property, consistently defying authority of the state.

The Presidency notes that the banned organization was taken over by extremists who didn't believe in peaceful protests and instead employed violence and arson, driving fear and undermining the rights of others and constituted authority.

The Presidency agrees that the constitution protects freedom of worship, but not to the detriment of the society, especially where such freedom harms others, and breaks law and order.

The Presidency insists that such criminal behavior and disregard for rights of others and human life will not be tolerated by any responsible government, explaining that everywhere in the world protesters operate within legal boundaries and conduct themselves peacefully without molesting others, or engaging in murder and killing of security personnel or destroying public and private property.

The Presidency regrets that despite all efforts by the government and other well-meaning Nigerians to make the IMN militants to see reason and abandon violence, such appeals fell on deaf ears as they killed, maimed and destroyed willfully, constituting daily nuisance to workers, commuters and other innocent citizens.

Having defied appeals to operate peacefully, and given their seeming determination to destabilize the country, the government had to act before the situation goes out of control, after admonishing many times over that people should not use religion to perpetuate lawlessness.

"We are fighting lawlessness and criminality and not pursuing a policy of discrimination against any group,” the Presidency stressed. “You cannot be in court while at the same time engaging in violent protests, molesting people and inflicting pains on others, which includes taking innocent lives.''

Garba Shehu
Senior Special Assistant to the President
(Media & Publicity)
July 28, 2019


Lalasticlala
This FG mumu IMN is the same thing as shiites
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Neddyogu(m): 10:31am On Jul 29, 2019
gwarotango:
No ibo person has the right to call anyone a parasite because your people are economic refugees in other people's lands and besides, your region contributes virtually nothing to the GDP of the country

Which Igbo person is a refugee? Yes the Igbo reside in many areas of this country far from their homeland and they either BUY land and OWN homes or PAY RENT wherever they choose to reside unlike u bloody lot. Fvcking parasites.
Take away the activities of the Igbo and watch the GDP of dis fvcking country kiss d dust. What has ur region got to contribute? Sand and grass?
Scram, bloody northerner.
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by rummmy: 10:35am On Jul 29, 2019
MyMouth:
It is obvious from comments above that some people are seriously praying for problem to erupt in this country. How on earth would any reasonable peace loving person support the activities of this group? Am a Muslim but will never support fanaticism. You guys want the government to treat these guys with kid gloves right? Just like the government treated Boko Haram but the became what they are today. The thing I have come to realize is that, most of those supporting these people are igbos(ipob) who pray and hope the issue would escalate and destroy the north so they can have their biafra. You guys will continue to fail just like will continue to fail in your quest to lead this country. Have NEVER seen such terrible, hateful people before angry
shut up.... We are already mobilizing..... Let them kill all of us because I'm even tired of been alive.... August my birth month let's go there...... The month of the real change in Nigeria
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by gwarotango: 10:56am On Jul 29, 2019
Neddyogu:


Which Igbo person is a refugee? Yes the Igbo reside in many areas of this country far from their homeland and they either BUY land and OWN homes or PAY RENT wherever they choose to reside unlike u bloody lot. Fvcking parasites.
Take away the activities of the Igbo and watch the GDP of dis fvcking country kiss d dust. What has ur region got to contribute? Sand and grass?
Scram, bloody northerner.
Look at what your people contribute wherever they go. Should I go on mr Flat head?



Operation Harbin Kunama III in Katsina Arrests Notorious Bandits and Ring Leader, Monday Chikwunka

July 28, 2019
Mohammed Issa Yahaya

Troops of HARBIN KUNAMA III have successfully conducted a joint operation with troops of Operation HADARIN DAJI and personnel of the Nigerian police to clear bandits and other reported cases of robbery, cattle rustling and kidnappings in Katsina state.

The clearance operation which is aimed at destroying all bandits’ camps in Katsina state has yielded tremendous results.

In the course of the operation, troops conducted a cordon and search exercise while acting on credible intelligence reports at YAR SANTA village in Kankara Local Government Area and its environ.

At the peak of the exercise, one Mr Monday Chikwunka, 36 years old, an indigene of Delta state alongside sixteen (16) other bandits specialised in rustling cows, killing and kidnapping of citizens were intercepted.

Preliminary interrogation and confessional statements by the suspects revealed that the gang are responsible for most criminal activities in the State and its localities.

The ring leader (Monday Chikwunka) also served as medical aid of these criminals by providing medical assistance to the wounded bandits who sustained gun shot wounds and their families. He confessed treating the pregnant wife of the one of the most notorious bandit, DOGO NAHALLI who is still at large.

The suspects have been handed over to the appropriate security agency for further investigation and prosecution.

In a similar development, troops while on clearance operations, encountered a group of fleeing bandits and neutralized one of the criminals who tried to escape. Many camps belonging to the bandits were destroyed.

The following items were recovered from the scene:

2× AK 47 rifle
4× AK 47 Magazines and 10 rounds of 7.62 mm
6× locally made Dane guns
1× revolver pistol
1× locally made revolver rifle
20× handsets2× motorcycles

The locals expressed optimism and appreciation while commending the efforts of Nigerian Army as well as other security agencies for ensuring the safety of lives and properties which enabled them continued with their routine activities including farming in the areas. Troops will continue to exploit by combing all hideouts of the bandits with the view to denying them freedom of action.

The General public are as usual enjoined to aassist troops and other security agencies by providing credible information on any suspicious activities and movements of persons or goods.
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by FarahAideed: 11:00am On Jul 29, 2019
Blue3k:
This was the obvious defense they would take. Does it make sense to conflate IMN with Shia islam? A similar example is its legal to be secessionist but not an IPOB. IMN can always challenge it it court but Im not aware of them challenging their proscription in Kaduna successfully.

IMN are Shiites.
Shites but not every Shiite is IMN.

Every Shia in the NW is actually IMN..
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by bumzylongs: 11:14am On Jul 29, 2019
Broadly speaking, President Buhari is NOT a man of peace! We can't have a peaceful environment if we don't love peace. Shame on the Presidency!
When will presidency give Army and Police full right/power to deal with the fourth deadliest terrorist group (Fulani's headsmen) terrorizing every nook and cranny of the country.
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Dpharisee: 12:06pm On Jul 29, 2019
tundeontop:
The Presidency should release Elzakzaky but his activities should not be allowed in Zaria. My experience with them in Gaskiya Zaria in 2011 is still very fresh.
They should go to the Southeast, the Igbos love them.

Igbos seem to be terrorizing a lot of people even when they are not carrying arms, those people too much cheesy
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by 27Pushing30: 12:07pm On Jul 29, 2019
namio10:
Ban this, proscribe that - they are signs of dictator in power.

Country works by constant restructuring of its political process.

Shiites co-existed in Nigeria peacefully with other religious sects, until the worsening type of Abuja unitary government system which limits cultural and religious expressions.

Return Nigeria to the structure left by the British in 1960, unless politicians want to decimate Nigeria's population in order to keep the existing failed political process that fetched money to the politicians.
you're uneducated.
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by freedomjoshah: 12:07pm On Jul 29, 2019
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Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by freeze001(f): 1:04pm On Jul 29, 2019
MyMouth:
It is obvious from comments above that some people are seriously praying for problem to erupt in this country. How on earth would any reasonable peace loving person support the activities of this group? Am a Muslim but will never support fanaticism. You guys want the government to treat these guys with kid gloves right? Just like the government treated Boko Haram but the became what they are today. The thing I have come to realize is that, most of those supporting these people are igbos(ipob) who pray and hope the issue would escalate and destroy the north so they can have their biafra. You guys will continue to fail just like will continue to fail in your quest to lead this country. Have NEVER seen such terrible, hateful people before angry

If you no call Igbo for this matter you for get incurable ulcer! Thank God for the Igbos that are your redemption whether you hate or love them. All the legal luminaries that have called this rubbish proscription illegal and unconstitutional are Igbo too abi? Don't wake up and smell the coffee, continue your fake, failed, stupid tribal/ethnic bias.

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Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by freeze001(f): 1:07pm On Jul 29, 2019
tundeontop:
The Presidency should release Elzakzaky but his activities should not be allowed in Zaria. My experience with them in Gaskiya Zaria in 2011 is still very fresh.
They should go to the Southeast, the Igbos love them.

So people should get uprooted and thrown out of their ethnic regions/homes because of your religious bias and blind political support? Soon, this evil you are supporting will come calling for its share around your neighbourhood and home. Then you will also uproot yourself and flee if you survive!
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by heysquare(m): 1:09pm On Jul 29, 2019
MyMouth:
It is obvious from comments above that some people are seriously praying for problem to erupt in this country. How on earth would any reasonable peace loving person support the activities of this group? Am a Muslim but will never support fanaticism. You guys want the government to treat these guys with kid gloves right? Just like the government treated Boko Haram but the became what they are today. The thing I have come to realize is that, most of those supporting these people are igbos(ipob) who pray and hope the issue would escalate and destroy the north so they can have their biafra. You guys will continue to fail just like will continue to fail in your quest to lead this country. Have NEVER seen such terrible, hateful people before angry
dnt mind them my brother. a lot of people supporting ds Shiite sect had once condemned them especially, during Goodluck Jonathan's regim. it was during Jonathan dat three of Shiite leader's son were killed. Hypocrites ppl

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Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by freeze001(f): 1:18pm On Jul 29, 2019
Bluntemperor:
Who Shiites help.let their Iran godfathers come and help them but let them first help themselves with their destabilizing acts in the Middle East.since they don't recognize any govt in power,no wonder Iran wants to turn the Saudi land to red and blue,bombing and destroying Yemen's land and sea under fluke pretentious of religious rascality.No responsible and serious govt will look other way while it's internal security is threatened by known and sponsored external enemies.

But the same government continues to condone and pamper the fulani marauders and herdsmen that they claim are foreigners from other countries; they even want to annex ancestral lands and allocate to these same foreign sponsored terrorists and murderers in the name of ruga yet you see nothing wrong with it. IMN/Shiites have been in this country for decades with various presidents coming and going, why have they suddenly become a big deal now that a sunni muslim fanatic is in office as president? Who was more brutal than Obasanjo during his time and yet we never saw this mess?! A supposedly democratic government in a secular country is using public funds and machinery to fight a religious ideological war and you endorse it? Make una continue, it will come full circle then you will open your mouths in wonder that is if this fire you are fueling will not consume you and your kind!
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Blue3k(m): 1:24pm On Jul 29, 2019
FarahAideed:


Every Shia in the NW is actually IMN..

Still doesn't make it religious ban. They can be shia without being part of the group. They can do prayers, attend mosques and practice their religion.
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Ibegtodiffer: 1:41pm On Jul 29, 2019
mrvitalis:

U are a sunni muslim ...so i expect u to be biased
Sunni are the problems with this world
Boko Haram, are Sunni's??
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by mrvitalis(m): 1:43pm On Jul 29, 2019
Ibegtodiffer:

Boko Haram, are Sunni's??
Yes na
Re: Presidency: FG Did Not Ban Shi'ites As A Religion; Only IMN As An Organization by Ibegtodiffer: 1:55pm On Jul 29, 2019
MyMouth:
It is obvious from comments above that some people are seriously praying for problem to erupt in this country. How on earth would any reasonable peace loving person support the activities of this group? Am a Muslim but will never support fanaticism. You guys want the government to treat these guys with kid gloves right? Just like the government treated Boko Haram but the became what they are today. The thing I have come to realize is that, most of those supporting these people are igbos(ipob) who pray and hope the issue would escalate and destroy the north so they can have their biafra. You guys will continue to fail just like will continue to fail in your quest to lead this country. Have NEVER seen such terrible, hateful people before angry
Boko Haram, Taliban and ISIS are all Sunni's and your are saying Shia's are fanatics?

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