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Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by IamPlato(m): 5:57pm On Aug 09, 2019 |
budaatum:WHAT YOU particularly, Define Pound As Is What Matters. Money Will Never Buy Intelligence no Matter How Much Is Saved up, It Will Never Buy Knowledge and In The End Everything Saved Up Will Amount To Nothing. Saving Up Knowledge Will Be A Waste Because Knowledge Not Used Will Amount To Nothing But Dryness... No Amount Of Pound Saved Up Will Be Enough amount to Know Everything or Have Everything. Only A Selfish man Will Save Up These Pounds For Years because The Best Way To Save Up Intellect or Intelligence And Secure Wealth And Its Longivity Is To put It In The Heart Of Men Who Understand or Else Every Thing Saved Up Will Amount To Nothing or Dryness as I Earlier Said. So In The End He Saved Up Nothing |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by hakeem4(m): 6:30pm On Aug 09, 2019 |
budaatum:I mean if god can interact with humans then he should be measurable. Imagine a case where you come to and you tell me you feel god in your heart or mind. If I carry you for an ECG test I would be able to tell you how, where and what does feeling are like. Meaning god only exists in the mind |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 6:47pm On Aug 09, 2019 |
If these are clues then... ![]() budaatum:Noted. I can't help think Christians are meant to learn to bear their own cross first before helping remove the twig from the eyes of others. Or can those with forests in their eye bear the cross of another? Are there not even some who go about, some intentionally some mistakenly, planting forests in their own and other people's eye instead of pruning branches?The man should have invested his 480 pounds, used the rewards for himself before proceeding to help others ![]() Though Paul can't help his mysticism and the Word lieth not. The issue is, why give my wealth to lazy manna people?Giving your wealth to "lazy manna people" is only bad if you do not bring them to the right understanding of wealth, its uses and methods of acquisition. Is it not true anymore that sowers reap?Remember the parable of the sower. Sowers would not reap if they sowed on stony ground or if the enemy comes and plants tares when men sleep. Must more blood be shed for salvation?No. But people need to know that the shed blood is already enough. More blood will be shed if people are ignorant. My people perish for lack of knowledge. Please note that my explanatorys so far constitute clues to the right answer, which, going by my reckoning, leaves a token sum for anyone who gets the answer right. I'll double it for ingenuity. Meanwhile, here's a rich man who might feed the starving. As for buda, you all have brains. If you used it you will be blessed. And the work is plenty but the workers few.This worker is willing to do the work ![]() |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 7:13pm On Aug 09, 2019 |
IamPlato:Sorry for socraticism, but I'd think one must first have that which one saves in order to be able to put some of it aside. Besides, the pound went in the vault from month one long before the 40 year old got intellect or a pound or became capable of putting things in vaults. I agree with the above except your, "Saved Up Nothing". I wonder why you call "treasure", "saved"?
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Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 7:47pm On Aug 09, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:The plenty work? I wonder. Ranchhoddas:Well, lets perhaps not jump ahead of ourselves now, I'm not exactly wealthy, it's why I raised my summer fund with this thread. "Wealth", that which would be treasure that is stored where moths don't eat it, is for those who do the work and have treasure to store, and if it truly is treasure, and would be shared, it ought to "bring them (that receive of it) to the right understanding of wealth, its uses and methods of acquisition", or the treasure is in vain, and doesn't do whatever it says treasure ought to do which is, enrich. I guess the next question, worker hoddas, is, what enriches? But I know you work. I seen you working. So lets start with, what is the work? . |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 8:32pm On Aug 09, 2019 |
budaatum:Plenty work, plenty rewards I presume. Well, lets perhaps not jump ahead of ourselves now, I'm not exactly wealthy, it's why I raised my summer fund with this thread.Wasn't talking about your "wealth", I was talking about the hypothetical man's 480 pound wealth. I understand the confusion though. "Wealth", that which would be treasure that is stored where moths don't eat it, is for those who do the work and have treasure to store, and if it truly is treasure, and would be shared, it ought to "bring them (that receive of it) to the right understanding of wealth, its uses and methods of acquisition", or the treasure is in vain, and doesn't do whatever it says treasure ought to do which is, enrichOkay. I guess the next question, worker hoddas, is, what enriches? But I know you work. I seen you working.Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom, and in all your getting get understanding. Wisdom enriches, it brings forth good judgement. King Jedidiah knew this when he asked for wisdom when God offered him a blank cheque. The work would be attainment of wisdom. |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by IamPlato(m): 9:04pm On Aug 09, 2019 |
budaatum:has Anyone Answered The Question |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by IamPlato(m): 9:06pm On Aug 09, 2019 |
Budaatum! what is this pound to you |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 3:23am On Aug 10, 2019 |
IamPlato:The pound to me? First, greetings. And welcome back, its been a while. I said "imagine" in the op. Those who know me know I mean create it in your own head, or why allow me to fill your head with my what's in mine. I guess I never confessed that this had to do with the head of JeromeBlack? My bad. This has to do with the head of JeromeBlack. Cunning how you ask the same question in a different way. See what a person who uses his head came up with! Ranchhoddas: |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 3:49am On Aug 10, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:Solomon the "peaceful" and "friend of God" is my most admired person in Scripture. From the abundance of his own heart he asked for wisdom and knowledge, and: God said to Solomon, “Since this is your heart’s desire and you have not asked for wealth, possessions or honor, nor for the death of your enemies, and since you have not asked for a long life but for wisdom and knowledge to govern my people over whom I have made you king, therefore wisdom and knowledge will be given you. And I will also give you wealth, possessions and honor, such as no king who was before you ever had and none after you will have.” Reminds me why I don't pray. It would after all be odd to go "Lord, give me knowledge and wisdom", all the time as if it would drop down like manna from heaven. What work does one do to be given or to attain wisdom and knowledge, Hoddas? |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 3:59am On Aug 10, 2019 |
IamPlato:Many have answered the question. No one has given the right answer. |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 4:48am On Aug 10, 2019 |
budaatum:Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault. I find this verse to be very interesting in relation to this thread. Take a look. Ecclesiastes 2:26 To the person who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by IamPlato(m): 7:37pm On Aug 10, 2019 |
NwaAmaikpe can You Answer This Question? In Case You Do, share The Money With Me 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 9:01pm On Aug 10, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:Ecclesiastes 2:26 is the more relevant one. At least as far as the question asked goes. The "fear" in Proverbs 1:7 should perhaps be "revere", or "love the Lord" even, though it might depend on the abundance of the heart of the person whether they need to fear, revere, or love the Lord. And James, or rather, Jacob, his rightful Jewish name, would mean a lot when he says "ask God". Which hardly answers the question on, which with a little thought, was, "How does one ask God for wisdom and knowledge"? Or rather, what is it that one must do for God to give one wisdom and knowledge? A question you rightly answer with "Please God" in Ecclesiastes 2:26. I believe it would be remiss of me not to follow in the steps of one who asked, "and what shall I do to enter the Kingdom of God", for it implies the Kingdom of the Wise with assumptions of worthiness. So I'll ask the question more relevant to my status. How, please, hoddas, do I go about pleasing God? |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by OkCornel(m): 9:37pm On Aug 10, 2019 |
budaatum: Going by your question in the OP. A 40 year old putting in a pound every month of his/her life in a moth proof vault. The worth of such an individual cannot be quantified, it largely depends on how such a person puts the knowledge obtained into use. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 10:24pm On Aug 10, 2019 |
budaatum:Hmmm... I'm sure theologians could write dissertations on pleasing God if they wanted. But I believe the Messiah already explained how as simply and as succintly as only the Messiah could ![]() Matthew 22:36 "Teacher what is the greatest commandment in the law?" Jesus said to him, "you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind". "This is the first and great commandment, and the second is like it." "You shall love your neighbour as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets" Obviously, what the Messiah was saying was that every other commandment will be fulfilled if these two are obeyed. Ergo, if you obey these two commandments, God will be well pleased. ![]() 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 12:33am On Aug 11, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:And thus, well done, hard working Hoddas Sir, did you work out the meaning of לֹא-תַעֲשֶׂה לְךָ פֶסֶל, וְכָל-תְּמוּנָה that came out of the MoG. Now, with the second in mind, though I confess to yet seeing how specifically loving my Lord my God with all my heart and soul and being, I must add, and mind and my neighbour too, equates to being in receipt of wisdom, still, let it be assumed that all agents are wise though we have not yet clarified how they got wise. How much wiseness would be in a wise vault of a wise 40 year old who put in a wise pound every wise month they lived wisely? The revelation should eliminate the zero wise pound people who make saving seem like devil worship instead of school fees. |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by johnw47: 3:06am On Aug 11, 2019 |
budaatum: the day he/she was born there is nothing put in the vault a pound is put in the vault at the end of the month - every month they lived there would be 479 pounds in the vault the day he/she turned 40 plus 1 pound a month for every month he/she lived after turning 40 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by johnw47: 3:27am On Aug 11, 2019 |
budaatum: 479 pounds 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by JeromeBlack: 10:32am On Aug 11, 2019 |
Budaatum, I'm losing my patience. Tell us the answer. Many people have given answers. Please update us. Stop this your weird behaviour. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 1:42pm On Aug 11, 2019 |
budaatum:I don't know Hebrew. But I believe someone said it's "no image, no sculpture." I went through the first part of your reference and I did not see anything. I'm a bit stumped here. Now, with the second in mind, though I confess to yet seeing how specifically loving my Lord my God with all my heart and soul and being, I must add, and mind and my neighbour too, equates to being in receipt of wisdom, still, let it be assumed that all agents are wise though we have not yet clarified how they got wise.From one hint you gave on an earlier page; becoming wise hinges on the adherence to the great commandments as given by the Messiah; but the one who seeks wisdom has to be pragmatic, intiutive, studious etc. Every day you live and everything you experience contributes to the wealth of wisdom you possess. There is no end to the acquisition of wisdom. Deciding to obey the great commandments is wisdom in itself no? How much wiseness would be in a wise vault of a wise 40 year old who put in a wise pound every wise month they lived wisely?I am tempted to say 40year worth of wisdom but this would be assuming that wisdom is a straight line. That the 40 year old man is necessarily wiser that say a 35year old man. The more you live; the wiser you get ![]() But Jedidiah was a young king when he was imbued with wisdom of the Divine kind, so that answer would not be strictly accurate. The revelation should eliminate the zero wise pound people who make saving seem like devil worship instead of school fees.Saving is great. This is actually the pragmatic approach to acquiring wisdom. Does this mean 40-year worth of wisdom is what the man has? This whole thing is making my head ache literally. ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 2:47am On Aug 12, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:Someone said that? I hope I commended them! The Hebrew is the second commandment. Jedidiah was indeed a young king when he asked God for wisdom (why the adjectives, by the way?). I've always wondered that only the wise ask for wisdom, and then he goes and commits three grave errors of coveting wives, horses and gold, foreign ones at that! Weird behaviour indeed!
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Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 4:24am On Aug 12, 2019 |
budaatum:"But the Holy Spirit will come and help you, because the Father will send the Spirit to take my place. The Spirit will teach you everything and will remind you of what I said while I was with you." - John 14:26 You would have nailed it, if you had typed according to the Teacher. Now here the part, I'll say, dont get it twisted, nothing to do with me and stop that "this was you" malarkey, because it wasnt me budaatum:If you all make your intellect as gods, what personality has the god that you've created with your intellect then? Curious to know. I bet its impersonal budaatum:Really grinding away. The hustle is real. Guess he thinks he needs the dough more than I do, thats why. budaatum:It means make no graven image of God. Make no false knowledge, no perverted intelligence about God. I sussed out the Hebrew from day one, but just left this thread on the back burner to stew until now budaatum:Wisdom is a gift. Wisdom is obtained as a gift. The Giver gives wisdom that people get and wisdom is given for a reason, that being to be productively, correctly and judiciously be used budaatum:40 years symbolises a generation and a fool at 40, is said to be a fool forever. Wisdom, wise pound(s) saved in a vault of a period of 40 years is like being a wasted and jaded generation, because its never used, not invested, is hidden away in a vault, literally amounting to nothing but depreciation, devaluation and reduction in value after the 40 years. We all are aware that 40 years ago intelligence and/or wisdom, is not necessarily the same as present day intelligence and/or wisdom budaatum:Wtf |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 6:36am On Aug 12, 2019 |
budaatum:Even wisdom has its limits it seems. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 7:03am On Aug 12, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:Whats the wisdom limit in jaywalking across a busy 26-lane highway? What's the wisdom limit in driving your car during operational hours, in BRT lanes in Lagos, hmm? |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 11:47am On Aug 12, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:I don't understand o. |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 11:49am On Aug 12, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: ![]() |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 4:19pm On Aug 12, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:One barrier to coming up with the right answer, in this case, is the lack of use of personal experience. For some reason, many ignore their experience and disregard it's place where Wisdom is concerned. Instead of considering how Wisdom is acquired, most are like you, the Holy Spirit will bring it down from heaven like manna. You toil not but expect to eat despite the Lord thy God specifically cursing that the lazy shall starve to death! Or is it not true anymore that a lack of knowledge is the cause of death? We don't so much "make our intellect God", muttley, for our arrogance won't permit us, it appearing to show us the limits of our puny mind everytime we think too highly of ourselves. Which one of us after all has said, "Let there be light", and light is? What we do is understand God according to our intellect, with the idea of God as conceived by your own intellect different to the same God from the same text as conceived by the intellect of some. Is it not, afterall, the amount of intellectual work to gain an understanding that one has done that makes one's God have abominations and another's God love the abominable? Is the reason for argument on here not because we all have different understandings of God? It is only the evildoer who benefits from the lack of use of intellect, for in the dark called ignorance does it get to promote its evil ways. Those with Intellect, it being the proper use of the senses, the 'science of living', the 'Jesus Christ', might understand that education is the mud that opens the eyes, which without, one can not turn the other cheek. There was a reason you were excluded from the paypal, muttley. You may refer back to your first answer and perhaps see why. 4 pages later, in a thread of "Thou shalt not create graven images", the lesson remains unlearned. Those who understand, as I said, do "not go about creating graven images of God with [their] puny intellect as if it was watching from high on a mountain". "Those who store wealth in moth proof vaults from birth as suggested do not use their stored up wealth to create graven images because they and their intellect serve the Lord." You are not "curious to learn", muttley. You already assume to know it all and are too afraid to learn, and typically, you confuse the twig in my eye for the forest in yours. |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 9:08am On Aug 13, 2019 |
budaatum:I said something about experience and research. Instead of considering how Wisdom is acquired, most are like you, the Holy Spirit will bring it down from heaven like manna. You toil not but expect to eat despite the Lord thy God specifically [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A17-19&version=NKJV]cursing[/url] that the lazy shall starve to death! Or is it not true anymore that a lack of knowledge is the cause of death?Wisdom is attained by work of course. Even Solomon had to make a great sacrifice before he got the chance to ask for wisdom. We don't so much "make our intellect God", muttley, for our arrogance won't permit us, it appearing to show us the limits of our puny mind everytime we think too highly of ourselves. Which one of us after all has said, "Let there be light", and light is? What we do is understand God according to our intellect, with the idea of God as conceived by your own intellect different to the same God from the same text as conceived by the intellect of some. Is it not, afterall, the amount of intellectual work to gain an understanding that one has done that makes one's God have abominations and another's God love the abominable? Is the reason for argument on here not because we all have different understandings of God?What is your own understanding of God? It is only the evildoer who benefits from the lack of use of intellect, for in the dark called ignorance does it get to promote its evil ways. Those with Intellect, it being the proper use of the senses, the 'science of living', the 'Jesus Christ', might understand that education is the mud that opens the eyes, which without, one can not turn the other cheekWhat sort of education? Do you have a specific kind in mind? There was a reason you were excluded from the paypal, muttley. You may refer back to your first answer and perhaps see why. 4 pages later, in a thread of "Thou shalt not create graven images", the lesson remains unlearned.Buda this thread has gone on for two weeks. When are you disbursing the £££ ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 1:07pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
I saw this on another thread and I thought of this one. Proverbs 17: 16 What is money in the hands of a fool; since he has no wisdom? The NKJV renders it thus: Why is there in the hand of a fool the purchase price of wisdom. Since he has no heart for it? |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by achorladey: 9:59pm On Aug 13, 2019 |
1 Corinthians 4:7 For who concedes you any superiority? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you received it, why do you boast as though you did not? For wisdom provides protection, just as money provides protection. But the advantage of knowledge is this: Wisdom preserves the life of its owner. “The greatest futility!” says the congregator. “Everything is futile.” Before you roll up your sleeves to start making deposits into your eternal ledger statement, hang tight. There’s one final thing you need to know. In this passage, we never heard Jesus say, "Get to work!” But what we do hear Jesus say is this, "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also” (Matt. 6:21). Like an experienced doctor who can diagnose the source of your ailment, Jesus knows that our struggle is an issue of the heart—not what we do or don’t do. This is why Jesus connected his command to stop laying up “earthly treasures” and store up “treasures in heaven” to the heart. He knows that what we value is reflected in how we live. On the one hand, when the “world” is your desire, you'll be committed to storing up "earthly treasures.” On the other hand, when Jesus is your treasure, you’ll devote your life to live for his glory and the good others. Today, as yourself: Do I treasure Jesus or do you treasure the world? Do I obsess over earning more money or buying more things? Or am I consumed with living and loving like Jesus? The answer to these questions will let you if you're living from Jesus from your heart. |
Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 7:40am On Aug 14, 2019 |
budaatum:"Now if any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God--who gives to all generously and ungrudgingly--and it will be given to him" - James 1:5 budaatum:"6Stop being gullible and live. Start traveling the road to understanding." 7Whoever corrects a mocker receives abuse. Whoever warns a wicked person gets hurt. 8Do not warn a mocker, or he will hate you. Warn a wise person, and he will love you. 9Give [advice] to a wise person, and he will become even wiser. Teach a righteous person, and he will learn more. 10The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. The knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. 11You will live longer because of me, and years will be added to your life (i.e. For through wisdom your days will be multiplied, and years will be added to your life) 12If you are wise, your wisdom will help you. If you mock, you alone will be held responsible." - Proverbs 9:6-12 budaatum:I am 110% quite sure I consciously used "god" and not "God" budaatum:This is like 7up, the difference is clear between both of them mate. budaatum:We need to admit to ourselves, that most times, we havent spent enough time thinking about and properly digesting a particular subject of interest before darting off forming opinions about it. The reason for the discussion on here is, with the different levels of understanding of God, some interlocutors, share their own opinions while other interlocutors, appropriately interject, to share facts. The latter state facts and while the former is bent on advancing arguments without knowing the facts. budaatum:Intelligence, as I've previously and always have said, is a God given gift. It is given to us, in order that we have the ability, means and power to investigate and thereafter appreciate God and the handiwork wonders of His creation. God has never once feel threatened by our scientific meddlings, tinkerings and adventure(s). Why? Because whatever man gets up to, God still is in control and has everything under wraps. budaatum:Its because you feel threatened, you're scared and you're a tight arsed fisted git, lol budaatum:Correctly put budaatum, they do make no false knowledge, do not make false representation of God, do not advance perverted intelligence about God. Do not paint a false picture of God etcetera budaatum:No one except for God, is an island of knowledge budaatum. I am yet to meet a man, so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from. Trust me budaatum, there is always inviting room, in my body, mind and soul, to learn more. I am a sucker to learn(ing). |
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