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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Nobody: 12:25pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
You have the chance during the election time to call them to order. Not now when we should all get ourselves together and support the APC. Protest is okay . Not revolution. iwantolive: 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by gidgiddy: 12:37pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
bewla: In Sudan it was the military that overthrew the president and not the protesters |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Rainbow219(m): 12:49pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
BigBashiru: I thank God the almighty am not black. I did not say Sowore is bad, but he's turning to worst. Buhari is good and gentle. But unfortunately surrounded by bad people. 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 12:51pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
Rainbow219: D bad people that u say surround buhari, pls who are they and who put them around buhari? 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Stillthebest: 12:55pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
lexy2014: No doubt you know exactly what you are saying. But contrastly, you actually were repeating me in the case of Shiites. Whenever it is not a FORCEFUL takeover then it is never a REVOLUTION. No where in history where revolution took place that it won't be a FORCEFUL takeover from Ghana, to South Sudan to Netherland to Egypt to mention but a few. As aforementioned, in relation with what I wrote earlier, Shiite never mentioned REVOLUTION but it became bloody thus makes their motive, IF they wished for it to be bloody, come through. That's why I said as a liberator, you hide your secret to your enemies. Using the word PROTEST doesn't mean it can't get to a REVOLUTION but the word must be silent. In a country where you have so many intellectuals one tends to thread with diplomacy so a hunter doesn't become a haunted. Let's borrow from MAHATMA GHANDI OF India who organised a million match to the govt house then to to India River and warned everyone never to become canterkerous or fight. This vehicle he used to claim this country back from English people. 'He said even if they shoot you don't fight' open quote; "an eye for an eye will only the everyone become blind" quote Close .That's an example of a contest... Not all can be like that. We can borrow some from him(Ghandi) then have our own hidden revolt system to use appropriately Confrontation doesn't solve any problem. Dialogues can to some extent. REVOLUTION is a confrontational word. Dialogue is a PROTESTING word.. Note*** If you read my first post, i said even if SOWORE had used the world protest he might have been still arrested. But that's narrow. If by a means of the word, he is not arrested his REVOLUTION plan would have been propagated easily IF that's his true plan. Warriors are leaders of every fight and they most times return from wars. When a warrior reveals his plan, then hes subjected himself to the hands of the opponents. How do you reveal your plan? It goes by way of your utterances(WORD,STATEMENTS) Etcetera... 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by luluman: 1:08pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
Afamsi:That's not true, yeebos saw the results of wanting to secede & declare a Republic & that's not the case with other tribes so stop lieing. 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by bakescos01: 1:10pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
lexy2014: I can't remember vividly the word tuface used but all of us can remember the protest never happened and it wasn't under this present administration. He didn't even use a word like REVOLUTION yet they stopped him and didn't let the protest happen. Shiite is different because they are protesting for the release of there leader in which the court already granted him bail and the President was still holding him back. See am not in support of this present administration but we can see the truth and try to shy away from it. No country or sitting president will allow people to gather around and do a REVOLUTION against his government. He should have used a word like protesting for the security of every common Nigeria or Life of every Nigerian count. My own view anyway. 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by iwantolive: 1:18pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
WiLdFLame:How can you support a man who takes you for granted?He travels to Uk for medical related issues,has him done anything to better our health industry?He does not mean well for for us.The man is a hypocrite.. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Basher8583: 1:23pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
J111333: Have you checked the way busy body igbos have been masturbating on these topic. 2 Likes |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Lovelive: 1:26pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
izombie:Gbam |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by tammie24: 1:27pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
WiLdFLame:So the Yorubas and hausas don't go to the same market as the ibos abi Speak for yourself Nobody said this is about Yoruba, Hausa or igbo I find it hard to believe you are Yoruba Cos any fulani herdsman can just claim yoruba To put enemity between the two tribes And that will benefit them |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 1:29pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
Stillthebest: I dont no what u mean by me "repeating u" in d Shiite case but understand this. According 2u, Sowore shouldn't have used d word "revolution" because 2u it connotes "violent takeover/overthrow". Based on this premise, I then asked u, what word did d Shiites use. U said they protested because a court order was given 4d release of their leader which d govt refused to obey. For u to now say because d protest turned violent now means their goal was "revolution", clearly contradicts ur statement that they were protesting 4d release of their leader. Did u ask urself how& y d protest turned violent? I mentioned something earlier based on what u said which is that d Shiites were very well within their rights to protest. So if they protested which was within their rights, y then did d govt use maximum force on them resulting in d loss of d lives of several Shiite members? I then asked u since u say "revolution" shouldn't b used, which word did Tuface use when he had a protest planned against d govt? I also asked what are d ideal words u say people must use when they come up against govt? u couldn't answer that. Also 4u to say that once it isn't violent then it isn't revolution, is highly untrue as u will b saying that d late JF Kennedy didn't no what he was saying when he said: "Those who make PEACEFUL REVOLUTION impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." Pls take note of d term "peaceful revolution". I doubt if u& I are more acquainted about revolution and governance than d late JF Kennedy. I also gave u instances of revolutions that took place in Sudan this year& that of Egypt that led to d fall of Hosni Mubarak during d Arab spring. They were nonviolent revolutions. U can also avail urself about d orange revolution that took place in Ukraine 2004, another nonviolent revolution. Stillthebest: Two things in this comment. One, it is a contradiction of what u have been saying that his use of d word "revolution" is d reason 4 his arrest. Second, it sheds light on something which u are stylishly trying to avoid which is d fact that d choice of words isn't d issue but d lack of tolerance that this govt has 4 dissent that is d issue. Am still struggling with ur warrior/commoner analogy. I don't c how what u said in comment about warriors explain this: "Warriors don't fight like commoners"...since u said Sowore is a warrior |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by stdammis(m): 1:31pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
gidgiddy: The fact that he was arrested because he mentioned revolution speaks volume. Revolution is WAR against a government. He should have said protest and no one will mind. Calling for revolution publicly is a bad vibe. Now the government is on alert, and they understand its war, so dont blame them for trying to war early. Revolution is not an easy thing. It means war. So why would someone call for war publicly. I am in full support of revolution, but we are not ready 2 Likes |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by tomdon(m): 1:32pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
gidgiddy: You mean incitement is not a crime? 2 Likes |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Moradeyo95: 1:32pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
ZikZikZik:6..be careful with your choice of words....not so long ago revolution leaders were getting arrested ![]() ![]() |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Lovelive: 1:32pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
gidgiddy:ZON.Bs won't understand you 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by ariesbull: 1:41pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
luluman: Afoonjaaa you never see anything....you go see am We warned you Wise men from East warned you |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 1:46pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
bakescos01: Bros Tuface called for a million man march against this particular govt which is d same thing as protest. Am glad u said bakescos01: So d issue isn't about d word REVOLUTION because if it was and based on what u said, then Tufaces planned protest shouldn't have been stopped. Then 2d Shiite issue u said bakescos01: Which means d Shiites were well within their rights to protest. And if that was d case, y were d police shooting live ammunition at them? If they didn't ask 4 revolution but 4d release of their leader, then y did d govt clamp down on them? So once again, is this about d choice of words or this govts intolerance for dissent and protests under any guise? bakescos01: So based on d above, what is d truth? Arent u d one now shying away from d truth? |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by stdammis(m): 1:47pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
ElsonMorali: Exactly. The revolution is doomed the moment the government knows about it. I like sowore spirit and all, but he should know better. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 1:52pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
WiLdFLame: When tuface planned a protest against this govt, was it allowed? When d Shiites protested against d continued detention of their leader based on a subsisting court order, what was governments response? What support does this govt need to carry out its constitutional responsibilities when it already has d financial, human and material resources at its disposal? Has d govt shown leadership? |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by ElsonMorali: 1:55pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
stdammis: You and me both. It wasn't well thought out at all. I like that he's got the energy and the drive and his antecedents speak for him, but nothing beats proper planning. A revolution that will wipe out the "slave masters of Astapor" will take months and years to plan. The guy was in a hurry. Even if the government had left him alone, it would have just been another street protest on the streets of Lagos. It won't even get to Ibadan, not to talk of Abuja. Painting graffiti on side rails? Nah! That'll never do. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by stdammis(m): 2:03pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
ElsonMorali: Yeah, that's why I was disappointed when he said revolution. I thought we finally got the soilder we longed for, with this now. I'm not even sure I'll follow the guy anymore. I still think the problem is most people dont understand what revolution stands for. It is war! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Omeizadean(m): 2:10pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
gidgiddy: What an idiotic analysis haba!!! Am so ashamed for u and the 200 plus moronic nairalanders that gave u likes... The young boys in ur reasoning were they protesting or giving signs that they were going to armed up one day and rob? Were they convening and threatening to take over our houses and put others occupants in them? U see what have befell u igbos? No more sense. The constructive reasoning have left ur lots and hatred and idiotic comments and posts have take center stages in ur brains albeit this kind of reasoning. We might as well kill all girls cos one day they will commit abortion. Did u see how stupid this sound? Yea that's how u sound. Igbos receive sense this minutes cos if fights for change of government with this kind of reasoning calamity will befall all us cos u will foolishly put a Satan to the seat of govt without realising. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 2:13pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
Omeizadean: Bro....i tire for that guy. I wasted my precious time on him. His analysis are so idiotic and silly. I wonder people wey dey like that comment. Na slowspokes like am sha 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by ifyboy60(m): 2:15pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
koboko69: Sir, do u watch any non NTA TV station? if yes, u might have heard of Trump, and his Rivals, they've called him all they can, many have protested, called for his impeachment (bundle him out can also mean impeachment.) some dems have even called for secession. Same in France, UK etc, but when it comes to Nigeria, u guys will always find good excuses for Buhari. |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by koboko69: 2:21pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
ifyboy60: How does this relate to this thread. In all ur rambling i did not see anyone call for revolution against the US government. There have also been several calls for Buhari's impeachment, PDP have attacked several times, we have seen FFK, RENO on the social media....have any of them been picked up. Make noise on the internet that u want to start a revolution protest in the states and see if CIA or FBI will not pick u up 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Omeizadean(m): 2:21pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
gidgiddy: Ibotic statement. Define 'SEDITION' and its punishment across the world. 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by buharitill2023: 2:24pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
iwantolive:did pdp build any hospital for 16yrs and buhari destroyed it 3yrs ago. Has buhari be admitted again since he came back on aug 30th 2017, that is a prove that our health sector has improved since 2017. 1 Like |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by NGpatriot: 2:31pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
gidgiddy: I wonder why people keep interchanging Protest and Revolution when in fact they have 2 different meanings. The organizers are promoting revolution, not protest. You have every right to peacefully protest, but you don't have any rights under any constitution on the surface of the earth to stage a revolution and forcibly overthrow any government, especially a democratically elected government. It's sedition and a criminal offense. You people need to stop playing bait and switch with words, we know the difference between protest and revolution. 2 Likes |
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Stillthebest: 2:38pm On Aug 04, 2019 |
lexy2014: I wasn't contradicting myself. Words are never meant to be one way. Then as to JF Kennedy, I wouldn't right him off neither would I accept his views in totality. They use the information at their disposal during their time to qualify and quantify events. That doesn't make them right all the time. That's why you see postulation in science being countered and corrected over time when there is an improvement and when there's a new scholar who can prove them wrong and make us believe in their own New theory. So going by the definition of REVOLUTION in the dictionary, I had given my perfect insight and JF might not be correct or the dictionary we inherited from them isnt correct. As to Shiites, I wasn't part of the protest and consequently, I wouldn't have known what brewed to cause the violence other than they got violent or the police got violent on them. One thing must lead to the other. And such is expected in a protest especially in Africa. Repeatedly , I didn't claim Govt arrested Sowore because of the word REVOLUTION, only gave an insight on what more pragmatic words he should have used. I had explained what warriors and commoners are! |
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