The trinity doctrine teaches that God the Father, the Son and the Holyspirit are equal and one and the same God.
   Although a very popular and widely accepted doctrine among christains the trinity doctrine is unbiblical and not in accordance with the word of God. The word Trinity does not appear in the Bible neither was such doctrine taught by the Apostles or known to the early Christains.
The trinity doctrine was instituted by men at the Council of Nicaea in AD325 and at Council of Constantinople in AD381.
The trinity doctrine has it's origin in pagan Sun god worship that was started by Nimrod and his wife.

Who is God and Jesus?
The Bible is clear on the identity of God and his Son, Jesus they are 2 different beings or persons
Although one in unity and purpose, their relationship is that of father and Son.
The Apostles always identified God as the father who has neither beginning or end ,who alone has immortality,all power and authority  they also identified and distinguished  Jesus as the only begotten Son of God  and not God the Father himself here is an  example.
2John1:3  Grace be with you, mercy and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
The identity of Jesus was well known to the discples of Jesus
Peter  in Matt 16:16,Martha the sister of  Lazarus, the  Centurion man,the high priest and many others  including the   Demons all identified Jesus as the son of God (remember Demons are fallen Angels)matthew8:29.
It is important that we understand who Jesus is, as  Jesus himself was interested in knowing whom people said he was. Luke 9:18

All through the Bible the personality of God and Jesus has been established and clearly stated.
It will be illogical for Jesus while he was on Earth to teach that he was sent by his father if  he himself was the father.
The question is who sent Jesus?
who did Jesus pray to when he was on the cross or when he raised Lazarus from the grave?Who was Jesus pleading to  to take away the cup? John 12:27
Whose will was Jesus referring to when he said father not my will but yours, mark 14:36
The evidence shows that Jesus was not the Father acting as the Son here on Earth but was the Son of God sent by God to the Earth to die as a ransom for man,John 6:38

Jesus, Son of God

The trinity doctrine teaches a 3in 1 god, that there are 3 but equal gods.
It denies the word of God that says Jesus is the BEGOTTEN Son of God. the same way a biological father proceeds his son so also God the Father proceeds his son, Jesus  Christ.
The Bible refers to Jesus as the first born of all creations Colossians 1:15,proverbs 8:22-end,Rev 3:14.
Jesus was brought into existence  at a certain time by his father before the World was created. Acts 13:33, God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

John5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; so it was God that gave Jesus life and not Jesus having his own life independently as claimed by trinitarians.
here are Jesus own words on his origin and existence.
Proverbs 8:22.
Unlike the Angels and other created beings who were made by the hand of  God, Jesus proceeded or came out  from his father John 8:42,16:27&28,17:8
He had the very nature , image and substance of his father, God. which no other created being has. Hebrews 1:4 Being MADE so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?  1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Note: Angels are sons of God by creation,born again Christains are sons of God by adoption (Romans 8:14-15) but Jesus Christ is the Son of God by inheritance Heb 1:4,

Are they Equal?

The trinity teaches that Jesus and the Holyspirit are co-equal with God but the Bible is abundantly clear that the son is not Co-equal with God.
No where in the Bible did Jesus  ever call himself God or equate himself to the father rather he reiterated the fact that he was sent by the father to do the will of the father and that the one who sends another is greater than the one sent.John13:16-20.
John 17:13, Matthew 10:40,John 10:18.
Rather than claim equality with God as fasely  taught by the trinity doctrine Jesus declares that his father is greater than him in John 14:28,he also calls his father his God Matt 27:46,John 20:17, here are some other verses to clearify this point
1Corinthains11:3,Colossians 1:14-19,John 5:19-47,John 5:19 & 5:20,John 5:27, Isaiah 53:11,Isaiah 42:1,Isaiah 49:7 Luke 24:19,
Philippians 2:5
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 2:6 Who, being in the form of God(nature of God, of cos he was born by God so he will bear God's nature), thought it not robbery to be equal with God:  2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men :2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name.

God Honours his Son.

After the ressurection and Ascension of Jesus to Heaven  God exalted Jesus and gave him a name above every other name Philippians 2:9.
It will be illogical for God to exalts and give power and authority to Jesus if he was co- equal with God and already had those privileges.Ephesians 1:20-23, Mark 12:36.
The Bible also teaches that at the end of the great controversy between good and evil when all power and principalities have been subdued for the sake of Jesus. Than Jesus will subject all things including himself to God 1Corinthians 15:28.

Who is the Holyspirit.

The Holyspirit is not a person or being as taught by the trinitarians but the the Holyspirit is the spirit of God and his Son Jesus, Ephesians 4:30, 1Thessalonians 4:8,God is a spirit who has a spirit which is his  mind,will,purpose,power,  and presence Genesis 1:2, Zachariah 4:6, 1peter 1:1.
It is this spirit  that God sends to us that dwells in us and enables us to do his will,Romans 8:9&11, 1john4:13, Isaiah 63:11, 1Corinthains 3:16, 1 Corinthians 12:8-11,John 7:39,14:17, Ezeikel 36:27.
Just as we showed earlier that Jesus did nothing of his own will or desire but that of his father so also the Holy spirit can only speak and show what it is instructed to say . This is evidence that it is not a being Co-equal with God that has it's own power and will.
There are few verses  that have been taken out of context and are used by  the trinitarians to promote their false doctrines
E.g is that the Bible refers to the Holy spirit as HE this does not prove  anything because  there are examples in the Bible where non- living things are personified or expressed with words like he or his examples are in proverbs 1:20,7:4,8:1,9:1where wisdom and knowledge are reffered to as he,his,she this also applies to the Holy spirit.
The Holy Spirit is likened  to a gift
In Luke 11:13,God pours out his Holy spirit Acts 2:18.
The identity and function of the Holy Spirit will be treated in subsequent articles.

Implications of the Trinity doctrine.

This doctrine has severe implications and consequences as it teaches that Jesus is not the literal Son of God,that Jesus is the same age as the father and has always existed along side him but this will make them twins and not a real  Father and Son it also teaches that the holyspirit is a being  Co-equal and  co-eternal making them triplets.

Thus the trinity doctrine denies that both the father and son are two different persons thus it denies their personality or persons.

Apostle Paul taught Christains that the Antichrist is anyone or teaching that denies Jesus is the son of God and thus denies the father and son  1John2:22-23,1john 4:3
It distorts who God says he is.
The doctrine of trinity also lends credance  or promotes the Catholic teaching that Mary is the mother of God  since it claims Jesus is   God and Co-equal to God. It is not surprising that this trinity doctrine was instituted by the usual suspects the Catholic Church and they claim it is the foundation on which all other of there teachings is based on.

Note:The angel that delivered the message  to Virgin  Mary  told her that the  child will be called( the Son of God) and not God. Nothing stops God from describing Jesus as God or his twin or avatar, rather he  used the adjective SON of God to distinguish him from the Father.

Conclusion.
The trinity doctrine cannot be proved in the Bible neither does it have any divine origin or inspiration.
It is one of those man made doctrines that have crept into Christaintity. it is unacceptable to God and contracdicts God's word about himself.
A lot of lies have been sold to us as Bible doctrines which are not Biblical, I urge the readers to do more research on this topic and to diligently search the word of God  2 Timothy 2:15, just like Paul said that we should prove all things through the scripture, rightfully dividing the word of God and not depending on men or some few Bible verses that have been lifted out of context inorder to suit a preconcieved  belief or idea.1Thessalonians 5:21

Thank you.



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Jw cultist spotted

Great is the mystery of Godliness, God was manifested in the Flesh

1 Timothy 3:16

I am not a TRinitarian, Jesus Christ is God Almighty
God in flesh

There is no Jehovah in the Bible

There is YHWH, who revealed himself to man as Christ, because apart from YHWH there is no saviour. Halleluyah

Seconded sir

blueAgent:
The trinity doctrine teaches that God the Father, the Son and the Holyspirit are equal and one and the same God.
   Although a very popular and widely accepted doctrine among christains the trinity doctrine is unbiblical and not in accordance with the word of God. The word Trinity does not appear in the Bible neither was such doctrine taught by the Apostles or known to the early Christains.
The trinity doctrine was instituted by men at the Council of Nicaea in AD325 and at Council of Constantinople in AD381.
The trinity doctrine has it's origin in pagan Sun god worship that was started by Nimrod and his wife.

Who is God and Jesus?
The Bible is clear on the identity of God and his Son, Jesus they are 2 different beings or persons
Although one in unity and purpose, their relationship is that of father and Son.
The Apostles always identified God as the father who has neither beginning or end ,who alone has immortality,all power and authority  they also identified and distinguished  Jesus as the only begotten Son of God  and not God the Father himself here is an  example.
2John1:3  Grace be with you, mercy and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
The identity of Jesus was well known to the discples of Jesus
Peter  in Matt 16:16,Martha the sister of  Lazarus, the  Centurion man,the high priest and many others  including the   Demons all identified Jesus as the son of God (remember Demons are fallen Angels)matthew8:29.
It is important that we understand who Jesus is, as  Jesus himself was interested in knowing whom people said he was. Luke 9:18

All through the Bible the personality of God and Jesus has been established and clearly stated.
It will be illogical for Jesus while he was on Earth to teach that he was sent by his father if  he himself was the father.
The question is who sent Jesus?
who did Jesus pray to when he was on the cross or when he raised Lazarus from the grave?Who was Jesus pleading to  to take away the cup? John 12:27
Whose will was Jesus referring to when he said father not my will but yours, mark 14:36
The evidence shows that Jesus was not the Father acting as the Son here on Earth but was the Son of God sent by God to the Earth to die as a ransom for man,John 6:38

Jesus, Son of God

The trinity doctrine teaches a 3in 1 god, that there are 3 but equal gods.
It denies the word of God that says Jesus is the BEGOTTEN Son of God. the same way a biological father proceeds his son so also God the Father proceeds his son, Jesus  Christ.
The Bible refers to Jesus as the first born of all creations Colossians 1:15,proverbs 8:22-end,Rev 3:14.
Jesus was brought into existence  at a certain time by his father before the World was created. Acts 13:33, God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

John5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; so it was God that gave Jesus life and not Jesus having his own life independently as claimed by trinitarians.
here are Jesus own words on his origin and existence.
Proverbs 8:22.
Unlike the Angels and other created beings who were made by the hand of  God, Jesus proceeded or came out  from his father John 8:42,16:27&28,17:8
He had the very nature , image and substance of his father, God. which no other created being has. Hebrews 1:4 Being MADE so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?  1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Note: Angels are sons of God by creation,born again Christains are sons of God by adoption (Romans 8:14-15) but Jesus Christ is the Son of God by inheritance Heb 1:4,

Are they Equal?

The trinity teaches that Jesus and the Holyspirit are co-equal with God but the Bible is abundantly clear that the son is not Co-equal with God.
No where in the Bible did Jesus  ever call himself God or equate himself to the father rather he reiterated the fact that he was sent by the father to do the will of the father and that the one who sends another is greater than the one sent.John13:16-20.
John 17:13, Matthew 10:40,John 10:18.
Rather than claim equality with God as fasely  taught by the trinity doctrine Jesus declares that his father is greater than him in John 14:28,he also calls his father his God Matt 27:46,John 20:17, here are some other verses to clearify this point
1Corinthains11:3,Colossians 1:14-19,John 5:19-47,John 5:19 & 5:20,John 5:27, Isaiah 53:11,Isaiah 42:1,Isaiah 49:7 Luke 24:19,
Philippians 2:5
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 2:6 Who, being in the form of God(nature of God, of cos he was born by God so he will bear God's nature), thought it not robbery to be equal with God:  2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men :2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name.

God Honours his Son.

After the ressurection and Ascension of Jesus to Heaven  God exalted Jesus and gave him a name above every other name Philippians 2:9.
It will be illogical for God to exalts and give power and authority to Jesus if he was co- equal with God and already had those privileges.Ephesians 1:20-23, Mark 12:36.
The Bible also teaches that at the end of the great controversy between good and evil when all power and principalities have been subdued for the sake of Jesus. Than Jesus will subject all things including himself to God 1Corinthians 15:28.

Who is the Holyspirit.

The Holyspirit is not a person or being as taught by the trinitarians but the the Holyspirit is the spirit of God and his Son Jesus, Ephesians 4:30, 1Thessalonians 4:8,God is a spirit who has a spirit which is his  mind,will,purpose,power,  and presence Genesis 1:2, Zachariah 4:6, 1peter 1:1.
It is this spirit  that God sends to us that dwells in us and enables us to do his will,Romans 8:9&11, 1john4:13, Isaiah 63:11, 1Corinthains 3:16, 1 Corinthians 12:8-11,John 7:39,14:17, Ezeikel 36:27.
Just as we showed earlier that Jesus did nothing of his own will or desire but that of his father so also the Holy spirit can only speak and show what it is instructed to say . This is evidence that it is not a being Co-equal with God that has it's own power and will.
There are few verses  that have been taken out of context and are used by  the trinitarians to promote their false doctrines
E.g is that the Bible refers to the Holy spirit as HE this does not prove  anything because  there are examples in the Bible where non- living things are personified or expressed with words like he or his examples are in proverbs 1:20,7:4,8:1,9:1where wisdom and knowledge are reffered to as he,his,she this also applies to the Holy spirit.
The Holy Spirit is likened  to a gift
In Luke 11:13,God pours out his Holy spirit Acts 2:18.
The identity and function of the Holy Spirit will be treated in subsequent articles.

Implications of the Trinity doctrine.

This doctrine has severe implications and consequences as it teaches that Jesus is not the literal Son of God,that Jesus is the same age as the father and has always existed along side him but this will make them twins and not a real  Father and Son it also teaches that the holyspirit is a being  Co-equal and  co-eternal making them triplets.

Thus the trinity doctrine denies that both the father and son are two different persons thus it denies their personality or persons.

Apostle Paul taught Christains that the Antichrist is anyone or teaching that denies Jesus is the son of God and thus denies the father and son  1John2:22-23,1john 4:3
It distorts who God says he is.
The doctrine of trinity also lends credance  or promotes the Catholic teaching that Mary is the mother of God  since it claims Jesus is   God and Co-equal to God. It is not surprising that this trinity doctrine was instituted by the usual suspects the Catholic Church and they claim it is the foundation on which all other of there teachings is based on.

Note:The angel that delivered the message  to Virgin  Mary  told her that the  child will be called( the Son of God) and not God. Nothing stops God from describing Jesus as God or his twin or avatar, rather he  used the adjective SON of God to distinguish him from the Father.

Conclusion.
The trinity doctrine cannot be proved in the Bible neither does it have any divine origin or inspiration.
It is one of those man made doctrines that have crept into Christaintity. it is unacceptable to God and contracdicts God's word about himself.
A lot of lies have been sold to us as Bible doctrines which are not Biblical, I urge the readers to do more research on this topic and to diligently search the word of God  2 Timothy 2:15, just like Paul said that we should prove all things through the scripture, rightfully dividing the word of God and not depending on men or some few Bible verses that have been lifted out of context inorder to suit a preconcieved  belief or idea.1Thessalonians 5:21

Thank you.



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Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,
baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

NAME not names. witnesses to deity of Christ are many, yes, Peter called Him God, did Jesus rebuke him ? the prophet Micah say His origin is UNKNOWN ( Micah 5:2) Every attribute that belongs to the Father belongs to the Son: "All things that the Father hath are
mine" (John 16:15).

To know Jesus Christ is to know God (John 14:8-9). To see Jesus Christ is to see God: "he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father" (John 14:9). Christ is the "image of the invisible God" (Col. 1:15), "the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His Person" (Heb. 1:3). "In Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Col. 2:9). All men must honor the Son just as they honor the Father (John 5:23). We honor the Father as God, and we must honor the Son in the same way. The Son of God is not honored when His deity is denied.

malvisguy212:
Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,
baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

NAME not names. witnesses to deity of Christ are many, yes, Peter called Him God, did Jesus rebuke him ? the prophet Micah say His origin is UNKNOWN ( Micah 5:2) Every attribute that belongs to the Father belongs to the Son: "All things that the Father hath are
mine" (John 16:15).

To know Jesus Christ is to know God (John 14:8-9). To see Jesus Christ is to see God: "he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father" (John 14:9). Christ is the "image of the invisible God" (Col. 1:15), "the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His Person" (Heb. 1:3). "In Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Col. 2:9). All men must honor the Son just as they honor the Father (John 5:23). We honor the Father as God, and we must honor the Son in the same way. The Son of God is not honored when His deity is denied.

God bless you, the poster is a jw cultist, always fighting the Lord Jesus

malvisguy212:
Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,
baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

NAME not names. witnesses to deity of Christ are many, yes, Peter called Him God, did Jesus rebuke him ? the prophet Micah say His origin is UNKNOWN ( Micah 5:2) Every attribute that belongs to the Father belongs to the Son: "All things that the Father hath are
mine" (John 16:15).

To know Jesus Christ is to know God (John 14:8-9). To see Jesus Christ is to see God: "he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father" (John 14:9). Christ is the "image of the invisible God" (Col. 1:15), "the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His Person" (Heb. 1:3). "In Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Col. 2:9). All men must honor the Son just as they honor the Father (John 5:23). We honor the Father as God, and we must honor the Son in the same way. The Son of God is not honored when His deity is denied.

1) "in the NAME of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit," so called one God is simply Sophistry built on FRAUD.
In the name of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob OR: Tom, Dick and Harry , these 3 names are one person..... Lols

@2) Show us proof.

John 17:18.
18" As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world."

Can your brain see that Jesus Christ is inferior to God as his disciples were inferior to Jesus?

"Godhead" is a FRAUD, use Greek lexicon of Colossians 2:9 to confirm it.

** Finally,
Revelation 3:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar
in the temple of my God, and he shall go no
more out: and I will write upon him the
name of my God, and the name of the city of
my God, which is new Jerusalem, which
cometh down out of heaven from my God:"


Come and twist Revelation 3:12......

bingbagbo:



God bless you, the poster is a jw cultist, always fighting the Lord Jesus

thank you. they are promoting doctrines of the devil.

Janosky:


1) "in the NAME of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit," so called one God is simply Sophistry built on FRAUD.
In the name of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob OR: Tom, Dick and Harry , these 3 names are one person..... Lols

@2) Show us proof.

John 17:18.
18" As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world."

Can your brain see that Jesus Christ is inferior to God as his disciples were inferior to Jesus?

"Godhead" is a FRAUD, use Greek lexicon of Colossians 2:9 to confirm it.

** Finally,
Revelation 3:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar
in the temple of my God, and he shall go no
more out: and I will write upon him the
name of my God, and the name of the city of
my God, which is new Jerusalem, which
cometh down out of heaven from my God:"


Come and twist Revelation 3:12......

Peter called Him ,Lord, did He reject it ? why did the Jews wanted to stone Him ? the people He was delivering His message to understand what He mean, they just don't believed in Him just like you.

the most confusing doctrine

malvisguy212:
thank you. they are promoting doctrines of the devil.

malvisguy212:
Peter called Him ,Lord, did He reject it ? why did the Jews wanted to stone Him ? the people He was delivering His message to understand what He mean, they just don't believed in Him just like you.

Malvis & Gbagbo lying Pharisees, agents of man made scam, Acts 2:36, who made Jesus a lord?
So in your brain scrubbed minds, what Peter said on earth (for which bible verses? ) in the physical realm surpassed Jesus words in the spiritual realm?
Indeed, your claims to being Christians na wash !!
Shame on you lying Pharisees.
I challenge you and all Trinitarians to twist Revelation 3:12....
Jesus Christ spoil market for una Trinity....
Lols

Janosky:




Malvis & Gbagbo lying Pharisees, agents of man made scam, Acts 2:36, who made Jesus a lord?
So in your brain scrubbed minds, what Peter said on earth (for which bible verses? ) in the physical realm surpassed Jesus words in the spiritual realm?
Indeed, your claims to being Christians na wash !!
Shame on you lying Pharisees.
I challenge you and all Trinitarians to twist Revelation 3:12....
Jesus Christ spoil market for una Trinity....
Lols

Rev 3:12  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

as for me, i won't twist rev 3:12 or any scripture, like you do oh most dishonest one


God the Word - the Lord Jesus Christ will make him that overcometh a pillar in the temple of His Father God
and he shall go out no more, and God the Word Jesus Christ will write upon him the name of His Father God
and the name of the city of His Father God which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down from Heaven from His
Father God, and God the Word Jesus Christ will write upon him His new name

nothing difficult there, now how does satan and his mob make you see that verse, oh so great know nothing

of course you lie and say that the Word - Jesus Christ is not God but is "a god"

you say god had a god with him, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw
you say god created the world through another god, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw
you say father is almighty god and jesus is mighty god, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw

Father and the Word are two persons, one God
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

truly there was no other god(a god) with God:
Deu_32:39  See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me:


truly the Father is God
truly the Word is God
truly the Holy Spirit is God

ask for scripture on any of that, get to it now, oh most duh one

johnw47:


Rev 3:12  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

as for me, i won't twist rev 3:12 or any scripture, like you do oh most dishonest one


God the Word - the Lord Jesus Christ will make him that overcometh a pillar in the temple of His Father God
and he shall go out no more, and God the Word Jesus Christ will write upon him the name of His Father God
and the name of the city of His Father God which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down from Heaven from His
Father God, and God the Word Jesus Christ will write upon him His new name

nothing difficult there, now how does satan and his mob make you see that verse, oh so great know nothing

of course you lie and say that the Word - Jesus Christ is not God but is "a god"

you say god had a god with him, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw
you say god created the world through another god, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw
you say father is almighty god and jesus is mighty god, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw

Father and the Word are two persons, one God
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

truly there was no other god(a god) with God:
Deu_32:39  See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me:


truly the Father is God
truly the Word is God
truly the Holy Spirit is God

ask for scripture on any of that, get to it now, oh most duh one

There is a solution to all these arguments. Jesus Christ is God by nature and authority given to him by the Almighty God who is the Father. Jesus is definitely not the Almighty Father. We can get this in the bible through this way we answer these questions scripturally; Does Jesus Christ have a god? Does YHWH Almighty have a God? Thanks God bless.

Janosky:




Malvis & Gbagbo lying Pharisees, agents of man made scam, Acts 2:36, who made Jesus a lord?
So in your brain scrubbed minds, what Peter said on earth (for which bible verses? ) in the physical realm surpassed Jesus words in the spiritual realm?
Indeed, your claims to being Christians na wash !!
Shame on you lying Pharisees.
I challenge you and all Trinitarians to twist Revelation 3:12....
Jesus Christ spoil market for una Trinity....
Lols

listen, Jesus calling God His father does not
imply inferiority, but a difference in roles, when your son called you father does it make him less human ? not at all. so it is with Jesus calling God, My God”.
He is not saying that the He is less “God” because the Father is His God. Rather, He is demonstrating that He is still under the authority of His Father God. we also learn that the son directed the holy spirit under the authority of the father in John 15:26.

this has always been the argument of the trinitarian that “When all things are subjected to Him, then the
Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him , so that God may be all in all.” this does not make the son less God

bingbagbo:
Jw cultist spotted

Great is the mystery of Godliness, God was manifested in the Flesh

1 Timothy 3:16

I am a TRinitarian, Jesus Christ is God Almighty
God in flesh

There is no Jehovah in the Bible

There is YHWH, who revealed himself to man as Christ, because apart from YHWH there is no saviour. Halleluyah

Do you have proof of that in the Bible?

Bruno3000:
Seconded sir

Thanks Bro.

malvisguy212:
Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,
baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,

NAME not names. witnesses to deity of Christ are many, yes, Peter called Him God, did Jesus rebuke him ? the prophet Micah say His origin is UNKNOWN ( Micah 5:2) Every attribute that belongs to the Father belongs to the Son: "All things that the Father hath are
mine" (John 16:15).

To know Jesus Christ is to know God (John 14:8-9). To see Jesus Christ is to see God: "he that hath seen Me hath seen the Father" (John 14:9). Christ is the "image of the invisible God" (Col. 1:15), "the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His Person" (Heb. 1:3). "In Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Col. 2:9). All men must honor the Son just as they honor the Father (John 5:23). We honor the Father as God, and we must honor the Son in the same way. The Son of God is not honored when His deity is denied.

How is this a proof that Jesus is the same as God.
So when people respect and honour Buhari's Children it means the Children are our president. can you see your logic?

Janosky:


1) "in the NAME of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit," so called one God is simply Sophistry built on FRAUD.
In the name of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob OR: Tom, Dick and Harry , these 3 names are one person..... Lols

@2) Show us proof.

John 17:18.
18" As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world."

Can your brain see that Jesus Christ is inferior to God as his disciples were inferior to Jesus?

"Godhead" is a FRAUD, use Greek lexicon of Colossians 2:9 to confirm it.

** Finally,
Revelation 3:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar
in the temple of my God, and he shall go no
more out: and I will write upon him the
name of my God, and the name of the city of
my God, which is new Jerusalem, which
cometh down out of heaven from my God:"


Come and twist Revelation 3:12......

Bro God bless you.

malvisguy212:
thank you. they are promoting doctrines of the devil.

Prove it?

Martin Luther was labeled a heretic becos he refused to accept false teachings and doctrines but we are all witness to the truth he stood for.

TVSA:
the most confusing doctrine

True, even the trinitarians cannot explain what they claim is the trinity.

malvisguy212:
Peter called Him ,Lord, did He reject it ? why did the Jews wanted to stone Him ? the people He was delivering His message to understand what He mean, they just don't believed in Him just like you.

The word Lord means Master and of cos Jesus was the master of his disciples.
David and the ancient kings were also called Lord, does it mean that David is now God based on your logic?

Genesis 44:18 Then Judah came near unto him, and said, Oh my lord, let thy servant, I pray thee, speak a word in my lord's ears, and let not thine anger burn against thy servant: for thou art even as Pharaoh.

johnw47:


Rev 3:12  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


lying pharisee™ deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

as for me, i won't twist rev 3:12 or any scripture, like you do oh most dishonest one


God the Word - the Lord Jesus Christ will make him that overcometh a pillar in the temple of His Father God
and he shall go out no more, and God the Word Jesus Christ will write upon him the name of His Father God
and the name of the city of His Father God which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down from Heaven from His
Father God, and God the Word Jesus Christ will write upon him His new name

nothing difficult there, now how does satan and his mob make you see that verse, oh so great know nothing

of course you lie and say that the Word - Jesus Christ is not God but is "a god"

you say god had a god with him, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw
you say god created the world through another god, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw
you say father is almighty god and jesus is mighty god, that's two god's oh polytheist false jw

Father and the Word are two persons, one God
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

truly there was no other god(a god) with God:
Deu_32:39  See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me:


truly the Father is God
truly the Word is God
truly the Holy Spirit is God

ask for scripture on any of that, get to it now, oh most duh one

You see how you twist your explanation without Bible verses or facts to prove it.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is
Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head
of Christ is God.

So God is the head of himself in your logic?

HedwigesMaduro:

There is a solution to all these arguments. Jesus Christ is God by nature and authority given to him by the Almighty God who is the Father. Jesus is definitely not the Almighty Father. We can get this in the bible through this way we answer these questions scripturally; Does Jesus Christ have a god? Does YHWH Almighty have a God? Thanks God bless.

I Totally agree with you and this what Jesus taught his disciples.
John 14:2
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I
would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.


Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, All power is
given unto me in heaven and in earth.

malvisguy212:
listen, Jesus calling God His father does not
imply inferiority, but a difference in roles, when your son called you father does it make him less human ? not at all. so it is with Jesus calling God, My God”.
He is not saying that the He is less “God” because the Father is His God. Rather, He is demonstrating that He is still under the authority of His Father God. we also learn that the son directed the holy spirit under the authority of the father in John 15:26.

this has always been the argument of the trinitarian that “When all things are subjected to Him, then the
Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him , so that God may be all in all.” this does not make the son less God

No one said the Son is less God just like no man is less human than his parents.
The fact or truth that we want people to understand is that Jesus is not the twin of God neither does he have same authority or power like his father except given to him by his father.

If you read proverbs 8:22 you will understand that God brought Jesus into existence which trinitarians deny by claiming Jesus is as old as his father.

remember that God beget Jesus and their is no where it is written that God himself is begotten.
BEGOTTEN
be-got'-'-n (yaladh; "to bear," "bring forth," "beget"; denotes the
physical relation of either parent to a child,

A somewhat old fashioned adjective, begotten is the past
participle of the verb beget, which means to father or produce
as offspring. You might recognize this word from John 3:16,
one of the most popular and most often quoted bible verses:
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but
have everlasting life."
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/begotten

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blueAgent:



No one said the Son is less God just like no man is less human than his parents.
The fact or truth that we want people to understand is that Jesus is not the twin of God neither does he have same authority or power like his father except given to him by his father.

If you read proverbs 8:22 you will understand that God brought Jesus into existence which trinitarians deny by claiming Jesus is as old as his father.

remember that God beget Jesus and their is no where it is written that God himself is begotten.
BEGOTTEN
be-got'-'-n (yaladh; "to bear," "bring forth," "beget"; denotes the
physical relation of either parent to a child,

A somewhat old fashioned adjective, begotten is the past
participle of the verb beget, which means to father or produce
as offspring. You might recognize this word from John 3:16,
one of the most popular and most often quoted bible verses:
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but
have everlasting life."
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/begotten

let me repeat myself again. the bible teaching of the tri-unty of God is as a family RELATIONSHIP, the Father given authority to the son, this by no mean make the son a less God .in office, is the President Greater than you ? yes, but in nature is he BETTER than you ? NO.

in revelation 3:12 He is speaking as God and He is submitting to the WILL OF THE FATHER.

HedwigesMaduro:

There is a solution to all these arguments. Jesus Christ is God by nature and authority given to him by the Almighty God who is the Father. Jesus is definitely not the Almighty Father.

clearly the Son is not the Father, they are two persons who are the one God, john 1:1
God is a Spirit, so the only begotten Son is of that same spirit that is God

many scriptures show that Jesus is God, that Jesus is YHWH
if you are not aware of them ask and i will post some

Father and the Word are not two gods as polytheist false jw's believe, almighty god the father and mighty god jesus

HedwigesMaduro:
We can get this in the bible through this way we answer these questions scripturally; Does Jesus Christ have a god? Does YHWH Almighty have a God? Thanks God bless.

Jesus' God is His Father, and His Father also called Jesus God

HedwigesMaduro:

There is a solution to all these arguments. Jesus Christ is God by nature and authority given to him by the Almighty God who is the Father. Jesus is definitely not the Almighty Father. We can get this in the bible through this way we answer these questions scripturally; Does Jesus Christ have a god? Does YHWH Almighty have a God? Thanks God bless.

You are right that Jesus is God by nature but not God the father that is what trinity teaches.
Trinity teaches that Jesus is God, the father is God and the holy spirit is God but not diferent Gods but one God.

blueAgent:



You see how you twist your explanation without Bible verses or facts to prove it.

i twisted nothing oh lying false jw, that's why you couldn't show where i do the twist
but then you false jw's are natural false accusers and everything that your father and god the devil is

blueAgent:
1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is
Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head
of Christ is God.

So God is the head of himself in your logic?

no, God(Father) is the head of Christ(Son) oh know nothing

blueAgent:


If you read proverbs 8:22 you will understand that God brought Jesus into existence which trinitarians deny by claiming Jesus is as old as his father.

God(Father-Spirit) begat the Word-bought Him forth, so the Word is that same Eternal Spirit that is God(Father)
the word only had a beginning as a seperate person to God(Father)
God's Word-Wisdom always existed in God

johnw47:


God(Father-Spirit) begat the Word-bought Him forth, so the Word is that same Eternal Spirit that is God(Father)
the word only had a beginning as a seperate person to God(Father)
God's Word-Wisdom always existed in God

I somehow agree with you but am having a little doubt or concerns on your statement that " the word is the same eternal spirit that is God" can you elaborate on it pls.

johnw47:


i twisted nothing oh lying false jw, that's why you couldn't show where i do the twist
but then you false jw's are natural false accusers and everything that your father and god the devil is



no, God(Father) is the head of Christ(Son) oh know nothing

You failed to tell me how God is the head of Christ and still Christ is the same God of himself
does it make sense to you?

malvisguy212:
let me repeat myself again. the bible teaching of the tri-unty of God is as a family RELATIONSHIP, the Father given authority to the son, this by no mean make the son a less God .in office, is the President Greater than you ? yes, but in nature is he BETTER than you ? NO.

in revelation 3:12 He is speaking as God and He is submitting to the WILL OF THE FATHER.

So in a nutshell you are saying that Jesus Co-equal to God but decided to play the role of a son?