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Guru Deseye Subai , Man-made Thinking And The Rationality Of Common Wisdom by tomnyone: 8:18pm On Sep 05, 2019
I saw this post on Opinion Nigeria and some other blogs and I want to say it is absolutely wrong, not correct and unacceptable.

You may argue that I am not a Christian and though stands on no authority to talk about the church, you can’t deny me the explicit messages in the Bible which gives me sufficient authority to argue in defence of truth against falsehood.

The trend lately is to manipulate scriptures in fulfilment of defined interests, in doing this, celestial authorities are questioned and common sense prism advanced. Forgetting that no man, no matter his intellectual expansiveness can dwarf what has been written by divine judgment. We have seen it before the world goes, and feeble attempts to distort the decree of the lord will continue but the potency of such attempt will eternally dwell in vain.
In a world where individuals search and seek for quick metaphysical explanations to their predicament, one shouldn’t be surprised that individuals such as Guru Sabai are quick to offer explanations and prescription that manipulates the innate curiosity and psychological fragility of people. By blending Hindusim and Christianity, Guru Subai has consistently exploited the gullibility of some to promote his new religion cloth in myths. This attempt to use logic and the wisdom of man to rationalize God was long foreseen long ago in the bible when in the book of Timothy 2:4 it was stated that,
“For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
Guru Subai relentless and provocative attack against the fundamentals of Christianity has assumed another dimension. Hiding under the cover of logic and rationality, he as attempted to demolish the foundation of the modern church of Christ forgetting the biblical inference which says that the ways of God is not the ways of man and the wisdom of man is foolishness in the sight of the lord.
He has attempted to create a new concept of marriage and morality that is not in accordance with what is written in the books. To him, the modern church is but of device of the devil. In a way, Guru Subai has attempted to create his own version of religion that appeals to but the interest of Christ. Little wonder he goes around claiming to possess spiritual powers that can heal all sort of diseases from HIV and AIDs to the least disease with no definitive proof. What will baffle any true believer is his method of healing and deliverance. He admits to using unconventional methods in healing his followers while the bible approves of prayers In the name of Christ alone as our shield against the forces of darkness.
To an unsuspecting Christian not grounded in the bible, the prism of Guru Subai teachings is appealing but to someone spiritually conscious, his words and actions are a confirmation of the prophetic warning Jesus gave in the book of Mathew 7:15 where he instructed the brethren to “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Guru Subai is a wolf in sheep clothing. He claims not to profess the Christian faith yet he performs miracles using the name of Christ. No wonder the bible said in the book of Mathew 24:24 “For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” Guru Subai is preying on the church and God’s elect but the church will rest on the word of the lord for judgment. Ezekiel 13:19 was explicitly clear when it promised that “My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD.”
You may argue that I am not a Christian and though stands on no authority to talk about the church, you can’t deny me the explicit messages in the Bible which gives me sufficient authority to argue in defence of truth against falsehood. This is part of my freedom of expression and exercises it within the provisions of the law.
Celestially musing


-By Abdullahi O. Haruna

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Re: Guru Deseye Subai , Man-made Thinking And The Rationality Of Common Wisdom by tomnyone: 8:20pm On Sep 05, 2019
Guru Deseye Subai may not be well known as a Christian but he is a Christian. He believes in Jesus and most of his teachings are centered on the core value of Christianity. The best I know, that may be hidden from you is that his teachings are more concerned about the hidden aspects of life. Christianity is all about spirituality, and that's what Guru Deseye Subai is more concerned about. Google him and you will know more about him. Don't just come out to the public and speak evil about someone you know very little about.
Re: Guru Deseye Subai , Man-made Thinking And The Rationality Of Common Wisdom by ayodijex(m): 8:42pm On Sep 05, 2019
I've seen teaches of this Guru and I know he largely, more often than not, speak the truth only.

why should someone want to make such claims by saying
Guru isn't a Christian?. quite laughable if I must say.

I saw some of his teachings where he spoke against materialistic pastors, spoke against materialistic prayers, spoke on how we should be careful because our actions have Karmic effects, I mean, this aren't things you hear in most churches and this 'Abdul-lie' claims Guru isn't a Christian but uses name of Christ for miracles.

The day Guru spoke on different doctrines in churches and how it negatively affects I already knew he was going to have ripple effects such as this.

Guru should keep shaking those tables abeg.

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Re: Guru Deseye Subai , Man-made Thinking And The Rationality Of Common Wisdom by Morsexy10: 11:56am On Sep 06, 2019
Mr Haruna. Guru subai has proven himself a good teacher whether you agree or not he is an eye opener to those who have been blinded by certain messages from different pastors. Ones called and those not called. And besides what do you know about Christianity? I will encourage you to make your opinion known cautiously. You may know little about Guru subai I will advise you to crave for more. Receive great inspiration from Guru subai brother Hakuna.
Re: Guru Deseye Subai , Man-made Thinking And The Rationality Of Common Wisdom by OpenYourEyes1: 12:37pm On Sep 06, 2019
tomnyone:
I saw this post on Opinion Nigeria and some other blogs and I want to say it is absolutely wrong, not correct and unacceptable.

You may argue that I am not a Christian and though stands on no authority to talk about the church, you can’t deny me the explicit messages in the Bible which gives me sufficient authority to argue in defence of truth against falsehood.

The trend lately is to manipulate scriptures in fulfilment of defined interests, in doing this, celestial authorities are questioned and common sense prism advanced. Forgetting that no man, no matter his intellectual expansiveness can dwarf what has been written by divine judgment. We have seen it before the world goes, and feeble attempts to distort the decree of the lord will continue but the potency of such attempt will eternally dwell in vain.
In a world where individuals search and seek for quick metaphysical explanations to their predicament, one shouldn’t be surprised that individuals such as Guru Sabai are quick to offer explanations and prescription that manipulates the innate curiosity and psychological fragility of people. By blending Hindusim and Christianity, Guru Subai has consistently exploited the gullibility of some to promote his new religion cloth in myths. This attempt to use logic and the wisdom of man to rationalize God was long foreseen long ago in the bible when in the book of Timothy 2:4 it was stated that,
“For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
Guru Subai relentless and provocative attack against the fundamentals of Christianity has assumed another dimension. Hiding under the cover of logic and rationality, he as attempted to demolish the foundation of the modern church of Christ forgetting the biblical inference which says that the ways of God is not the ways of man and the wisdom of man is foolishness in the sight of the lord.
He has attempted to create a new concept of marriage and morality that is not in accordance with what is written in the books. To him, the modern church is but of device of the devil. In a way, Guru Subai has attempted to create his own version of religion that appeals to but the interest of Christ. Little wonder he goes around claiming to possess spiritual powers that can heal all sort of diseases from HIV and AIDs to the least disease with no definitive proof. What will baffle any true believer is his method of healing and deliverance. He admits to using unconventional methods in healing his followers while the bible approves of prayers In the name of Christ alone as our shield against the forces of darkness.
To an unsuspecting Christian not grounded in the bible, the prism of Guru Subai teachings is appealing but to someone spiritually conscious, his words and actions are a confirmation of the prophetic warning Jesus gave in the book of Mathew 7:15 where he instructed the brethren to “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Guru Subai is a wolf in sheep clothing. He claims not to profess the Christian faith yet he performs miracles using the name of Christ. No wonder the bible said in the book of Mathew 24:24 “For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” Guru Subai is preying on the church and God’s elect but the church will rest on the word of the lord for judgment. Ezekiel 13:19 was explicitly clear when it promised that “My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD.”
You may argue that I am not a Christian and though stands on no authority to talk about the church, you can’t deny me the explicit messages in the Bible which gives me sufficient authority to argue in defence of truth against falsehood. This is part of my freedom of expression and exercises it within the provisions of the law.
Celestially musing


-By Abdullahi O. Haruna

Just watched his video. Sounds like New-age teaching. Just be Becareful my friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB1qtd3CjDk
Re: Guru Deseye Subai , Man-made Thinking And The Rationality Of Common Wisdom by rettarezi: 1:18pm On Sep 06, 2019
You have said it all, you are not a Christian...What do you know about Christianity? @guru not only preaches about the scriptures but spirituality in total, maybe you should listen to all his words of inspiration before drawing any conclusions...I want to ask you something, is it written in the Quran that killing is acceptable? How many of the boko haram leaders have you preached to? How many of the victimized Families have you visited?...please remove the log in your eyes before pointing at some else own...@rettarezi
Re: Guru Deseye Subai , Man-made Thinking And The Rationality Of Common Wisdom by Darlingtonnnn: 1:32pm On Sep 06, 2019
As for me I still dont understand the reasons for your actions , you already mentioned you are not a Christian but yet you chose to write about a man who does his own thing the best way he knows how to do it , it's a free world everyone is entitled to his or own belief weather Christianity or Hinduism or whatever .. to me I think all this thing you are coming up with is pure publicity stun .. ride on .. but I see no reason for you calling out Guru.. I am not one of his followers but from time to time i have come across his teachings and I see nothing wrong with what he does ...
Re: Guru Deseye Subai , Man-made Thinking And The Rationality Of Common Wisdom by Orizuprincess04: 2:03pm On Sep 06, 2019
God created all of us in his own image... I know you are misunderstanding the teachings of Guru Deseye... Everything is not completely explained in the Bible... And not every man of God have possess such wisdom as the Guru Deseye.... He is doing his best to make sure we understand everything about the scriptures, so as not to be led to the wrong path by so many so called men of God.. Is clearly written in his page and you can see in his videos... All you need do is read, listen, view and learn.. Don't be mislead by people that don't know what Christianity is all about... This is just an example of What Guru explained earlier.. (Dont allow the evil spirits and agents of darkness take over your brain of understanding) ... With God's help I understand and believe the teachings of Guru Deseye subai and will continue to do so.. I advise you ask God for forgiveness aswell as plea with him to make your brain active.. I will also pray for you because heaven will be happy if your soul repents ..

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Re: Guru Deseye Subai , Man-made Thinking And The Rationality Of Common Wisdom by tuzyann: 2:13pm On Sep 06, 2019
i myself can testify about guru deseye subai, he is a wonderful teacher who doesn't hide the truth, like they say the truth hurt. he has help, impact knowledge in so many people spiritually and mentally. he has done so many research and travel to different country.
Re: Guru Deseye Subai , Man-made Thinking And The Rationality Of Common Wisdom by Trailblazer7: 2:59pm On Sep 06, 2019
@Abdullahi O Haruna, Guru Subai is a great teacher. I've listened to his teachings for a while now and can attest that most of his teachings are true. His lessons are things that I'm familiar with even before getting to know him, well, except for a few that I don't have knowledge of yet.
Please try not to speak bad about people you know nothing about. Besides, I've read this post over and over again yet don't see any reasonable facts that justifies your negative claims about Guru Subai. Fine, you quoted some passages in the bible which, of course are true, to backup your points but they don't in any way show your evidence against Guru.
Moreover, you should not quote the bible to abuse another just like you did in most of your lines!
I admit that there exist false prophets in our churches today but quoting bible verses that speak about false prophets doesn't make Guru a false prophet-it only reminds us of their existence; because u have no proof. Mr. Haruna, I suggest you mind your own religion/prophets and leave judgement to God rather than throw mud at another. Please don't make me think you're one confused Muslim seeking attention

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