gidgiddy:


Let me tell you something that will shock you. Outside Lagos, which is what it is as a result of being the capital of Nigeria for almost 100 years, there is nothing enviable in Yoruba land. There may be a few areas in Ogun state that has benefitted from being close to Lagos but that is also to do with the Lagos factor, not out of the ingenuity of Yorubas. Outside Lagos, tell me any Yoruba city that has the commercial level of Onitsha or Aba? Forget all these reports that flying about on the internet, why is the biggest Market in Africa in Onitsha and not Yoruba land? The only saving grace of Yorubas is Lagos that was collectively built by everyone.

When Igbos walked out on Yorubas and their Northern cohorts, they united to go to the East and fight for 3 years to bring us back.

People who should be talking about Oduduwa Republic are busy d**k measuring inside Nigeria

Let’s engage in meaningful discussion devoid of insults. The is a saying that the present is the key to the past and I will highlight my points based on verifiable facts.

Before the unitary government of 1966, each region is left to develop at its own pace.

The defunct western region has the best economy, Ibadan used to be the house of many firsts in Nigeria. Awolowo with te proceeds of cocoa built the first TV station, the first sky scraper, Odua investment, the first stadium, and he also started the free compulsory education ever to be seen in Nigeria.

Ask anyone that knows history, the Western region is the richest region when region developed at its pace. Lagos is owned by the SW and stop trying to make it seems like Lagos is built by aliens without any input from the Yorubas.

Ogun State has the most companies In Nigeria except Lagos, infact the IGR of ogun is more than the total of the 5 SE states.

The Yoruba economy is diversified, we have the IT sectors, banking, service sector, the highest concentration of craft workers, best education institutions, best economy with high purchasing power.

Ondo State produces oil than any SE states, if the Yorubas were to be a separate country, we would be the most advanced and most successful.

Ondo, Oyo can cater for agriculture, Lagos and Ogun, industries, Osun will be the power plant, Ekiti will also contributes its quota. The western nation economy will be dependent on Service, IT sectors, groundbreaking researches in uni and technological advancement.

Walahi, my regret is the fact that Ironsi declares the unitary system of government, that impede the Yoruba nation growth that gave birth to this lazy economy and dependencies on the crude oil. The Igbos have never been a match for the Yoruba in all aspect of development and that is a fact!

Go through this thread and come back here to say the same thing about Igbo being better/ will be better than Yoruba.

https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe

Latifat1:
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shut it dude

You’ve open another account. DM me I will give you job so you can have something meaningful to do with your life than stalking people around.

There's nothing like southern Nigeria OP. Yorubas made sure to cut any form of unity in South during their greedy plots in 2015. Now that North are showing signs that they do not plan on following that plot, you all immediately remember the so called Southern Nigeria. Please keep that same 2015 attitude. Even Sowore was belittled by you people the second his fight went soar. We are all drunkards, militants and illiterates according to you people's chants. When Nigeria separate, there's no way Ijaw are joining Yoruba in the same country. I rather we live with Fulanis before Yoruba. Please keep that 2015 attitude you displayed because we haven't forgotten it.

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YorubaHero12:


You’ve open another account. DM me I will give you job so you can have something meaningful to do with your life than stalking people around.

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Some people have always pitched their tents with the north
From the era of their grandfather Zik

topboss:


THERE IS A SOUTH AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SOUTHERN NIGERIA.

YORUBA JUST IS NOT PART OF IT.

Very correct.

YorubaHero12:


Southern Nigeria is just a geographical expression. The Yorubas, Igbos, and other tribes in the southern Nigeria do not share any thing in common. We have different cultures, language, emotions, way of life, etc.

We know of Oyo kingdom, Benin kingdom, can you please mention one more kingdom in the south and let me know where the Igbos originated from?

Pre 1900, we don’t have a good historical background of the origin of the Igbos, even amongst yourselves you are confused, today Israel, tomorrow Cameroon.

The southern Nigeria is just a conglomerate of people that reside in the geographic south. Hence your notion of southern Nigeria as an entity to only qualify the SE&SS is a joke taken too far.

The guy is correct.

Yoruba been southern Nigeria is just politics taken too far.

Check history....it was simply referred to as West.

YorubaHero12:


We are saying the same thing, why should Yoruba will dignifying past with well established past kingdoms share anything in common with the SE that are still using leaves to cover their body pre 1900?

We don’t have anything in common with the Igbos and that is a fact that is self evident.

Stop lumping up all southern Nigeria to your discussion, mention your tribe and stop speaking for other people. Choose your tribe, identify with it, and stop speaking for Edo, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Ijaw, Ibibio, etc.

You even stretch your hand at my backyard to talk about kingdoms.

British and lugard knew what they did...

Yorubas are even more related to Benin republic and Togo....this is an undisputed fact....Take it or leave it.

British carved west over here to upset permutations and equations.....and is working for them and their Industry.

YorubaHero12:


Shebi it’s your ancestors that give us our land in the south right? It’s your people that give us the lands and seas of the Oyo empire?

Then invoke their corpse to ask us to leave the south.

Such a depravity

Your land is your land and your home but is simply nothing south but purely west.

YorubaHero12:


Oh it’s about Biafra now and you’re tryna lump all other ethnic minorities to your country. Is it a curse to always wanna dominate others? When did the Igbos become the whole southern Nigeria?

The Ijaw tried leaving your domineering eastern region once when Adaka Boro tried to secede, but you keep trying to forcefully align them with you.

Speak for your tribe alone and let’s move the discussion from there.

Do you have even the slightest blood link with Boro or do west have?


The reason British moved west as south is just for them to be shouting one Nigeria day and night.. Research well.

Old permutations is what keeps British running.

YorubaHero12:


Azikwe will be ashamed of you in his grave. He was the one that keep justifying unity by not accepting secession clause in the constitution. He knew the East have nothing and he made sure he lumped the Western region with all her resources and economic achievement to the union called Nigeria.

Awolowo never wanted to be with you guys forever, infact the Abokis never wanted it too, that was why Ahmadu Bello during the campaign pre-1960 said that it’s better both tribes recognize their differences but Azikwe campaigned based on one indivisible one Nigeria.

About crude oil: Ondo State alone produces more oil than any state in the SE. so what.. rubbish are you saying?

For ondo state....give thanks to obasanjo...He did well there.

Stop bringing azikiwe to pure truth...You are busy calling tribes you don't even share any boundary with...

Are you for real..

topboss:

SOWORE IS AN IJAW MAN, NOT YORUBA.

ONDO IS NOT A YORUBA STATE.

Ondo is a Yoruba land.
let them manage what obasanjo gave them.

YorubaHero12:

Okay, Ondo is Ijaw and Igbo land. Are you happy now?

Ondo is yorubaland.

Manage what obasanjo gave una.

But you guys were quick to forget when nearly all of you claimed sowore is an Ijaw boy not Yoruba..

People like us insisted that sowore is Yoruba man but many don't want to hear that...

Very pathetic.

YorubaHero12:


Let’s engage in meaningful discussion devoid of insults. The is a saying that the present is the key to the past and I will highlight my points based on verifiable facts.

Before the unitary government of 1966, each region is left to develop at its own pace.

The defunct western region has the best economy, Ibadan used to be the house of many firsts in Nigeria. Awolowo with te proceeds of cocoa built the first TV station, the first sky scraper, Odua investment, the first stadium, and he also started the free compulsory education ever to be seen in Nigeria.

Ask anyone that knows history, the Western region is the richest region when region developed at its pace. Lagos is owned by the SW and stop trying to make it seems like Lagos is built by aliens without any input from the Yorubas.

Ogun State has the most companies In Nigeria except Lagos, infact the IGR of ogun is more than the total of the 5 SE states.

The Yoruba economy is diversified, we have the IT sectors, banking, service sector, the highest concentration of craft workers, best education institutions, best economy with high purchasing power.

Ondo State produces oil than any SE states, if the Yorubas were to be a separate country, we would be the most advanced and most successful.

Ondo, Oyo can cater for agriculture, Lagos and Ogun, industries, Osun will be the power plant, Ekiti will also contributes its quota. The western nation economy will be dependent on Service, IT sectors, groundbreaking researches in uni and technological advancement.

Walahi, my regret is the fact that Ironsi declares the unitary system of government, that impede the Yoruba nation growth that gave birth to this lazy economy and dependencies on the crude oil. The Igbos have never been a match for the Yoruba in all aspect of development and that is a fact!

Go through this thread and come back here to say the same thing about Igbo being better/ will be better than Yoruba.

https://www.nairaland.com/3918290/yorubas-most-industriousrichest-educated-tribe

Lol and this is the fact.

Sorry.

MelesZenawi:



For ondo state....give thanks to obasanjo...He did well there.

Stop bringing azikiwe to pure truth...You are busy calling tribes you don't even share any boundary with...

Are you for real..

Lol, if we talk about Lagos being the most economically viable region, you say the Igbo developed it.

If we talk that Ogun IGR is more than the whole SE, you say it’s because of its proximity to Lagos.

Now I talked about Ondo having crude oil than any SE states, you said it’s Obasanjo that did that.

Why can’t you guys for once stop digressing facts to suit your narratives, you will always have one rubbish or another to disprove any claim when it dosen’t suit your interest. Nawa o

So Obasanjo went to below ground level to insert crude oil in Ondo? Or the Ilaje people are not Yorubas? Or what are you trying to imply?

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YorubaHero12:


Lol, if we talk about Lagos being the most economically viable region, you say the Igbo developed it.

If we talk that Ogun IGR is more than the whole SE, you say it’s because of its proximity to Lagos.

Now I talked about Ondo having crude oil than any SE states, you said it’s Obasanjo that did that.

Why can’t you guys for once stop digressing facts to suit your narratives, you will always have one rubbish or another to disprove any claim when it dosen’t suit your interest. Nawa o

So Obasanjo went to below ground level to insert crude oil in SW? Or the Ilaje people are not Yorubas? Or what are you trying to imply?

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MelesZenawi:




Lol and this is the fact.

Sorry.

He said the Yorubas are parasites and that we can’t build our region coz all tribes developed Lagos.

I just laid out what we have done before when each region was autonomous. It’s not about projecting the future that a particular region will be better than the other, but it’s about backing claims with evidence of what had happened in the past.

A Fulani man can just go online and say AREWA will be the best country in 50 years or they will be the most educated, there is no claim to verify that fact you know.

He’s saying the Yorubas won’t survive the breakup of Nigeria if each region manages its resources, which to me is the most absurd statement I’ve ever read online.

That was why I gave him a short analogy of the western region and the other region which can serve as a case study since it’s synonymous with each region managing their resources.

YorubaHero12:


Lol, if we talk about Lagos being the most economically viable region, you say the Igbo developed it.

If we talk that Ogun IGR is more than the whole SE, you say it’s because of its proximity to Lagos.

Now I talked about Ondo having crude oil than any SE states, you said it’s Obasanjo that did that.

Why can’t you guys for once stop digressing facts to suit your narratives, you will always have one rubbish or another to disprove any claim when it dosen’t suit your interest. Nawa o

So Obasanjo went to below ground level to insert crude oil in SW? Or the Ilaje people are not Yorubas? Or what are you trying to imply?

Lifting opinion out of my submission sounds to like inferiority complex..

Leave ondo crude...there are times I just neglect issues not that I don't want to argue it buy simply because there is no truth in it and needless stressing it further.


When sowore was arrested, all of you guys termed him Ijaw, People like us insisted he is a Yoruba man.....Now he is Yoruba again that's by the way.


Ondo is yorubaland.

YorubaHero12:


He said the Yorubas are parasites and that we can’t build our region coz all tribes developed Lagos.

I just laid out what we have done before when each region was autonomous. It’s not about projecting the future that a particular region will be better than the other, but it’s about backing claims with evidence of what had happened in the past.

A Fulani man can just go online and say AREWA will be the best country in 50 years or they will be the most educated, there is no claim to verify that fact you know.

He’s saying the Yorubas won’t survive the breakup of Nigeria if each region manages its resources, which to me is the most absurd statement I’ve ever read online.

That was why I gave him a short analogy of the western region and the other region which can serve as a case study since it’s synonymous with each region managing their resources.

Noted...

MelesZenawi:


Lifting opinion out of my submission sounds to like inferiority complex..

Leave ondo crude...there are times I just neglect issues not that I don't want to argue it buy simply because there is no truth in it and needless stressing it further.


When sowore was arrested, all of you guys termed him Ijaw, People like us insisted he is a Yoruba man.....Now he is Yoruba again that's by the way.


Ondo is yorubaland.

Who are the people that said he is not Yoruba?

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YorubaHero12:


Who are the people?

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YorubaHero12:


Lol, if we talk about Lagos being the most economically viable region, you say the Igbo developed it.

If we talk that Ogun IGR is more than the whole SE, you say it’s because of its proximity to Lagos.

Now I talked about Ondo having crude oil than any SE states, you said it’s Obasanjo that did that.

Why can’t you guys for once stop digressing facts to suit your narratives, you will always have one rubbish or another to disprove any claim when it dosen’t suit your interest. Nawa o

So Obasanjo went to below ground level to insert crude oil in Ondo? Or the Ilaje people are not Yorubas? Or what are you trying to imply?

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YorubaHero12:


He said the Yorubas are parasites and that we can’t build our region coz all tribes developed Lagos.

I just laid out what we have done before when each region was autonomous. It’s not about projecting the future that a particular region will be better than the other, but it’s about backing claims with evidence of what had happened in the past.

A Fulani man can just go online and say AREWA will be the best country in 50 years or they will be the most educated, there is no claim to verify that fact you know.

He’s saying the Yorubas won’t survive the breakup of Nigeria if each region manages its resources, which to me is the most absurd statement I’ve ever read online.

That was why I gave him a short analogy of the western region and the other region which can serve as a case study since it’s synonymous with each region managing their resources.

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YorubaHero12:


Who are the people that said he is not Yoruba?

Don't tell me you not on this forum or you just feigning ignorance...

Look for the thread of sowore Revolution, arrest and trial....then you can have peace and believe.

The denial was much then.

MelesZenawi:



Don't tell me you not on this forum or you just feigning ignorance...

Look for the thread of sowore Revolution, arrest and trial....then you can have peace and believe.

The denial was much then.

Well the opinion of a few cannot be used to justify the opinion of majority. Isn’t it some of you guys that are shouting he was Ijaw before even before this.

I can remeber one guy brought up one link where he was saying Sowore was Ijaw and the guy was Igbo.

Now you’re saying Sowore is Yoruba, should I then use the opinion of other guy to justify yours ?

Can you see the drift. If people that said he ain’t Yoruba are not the majority or leaders of the Yoruba nation, then few nonentities online are inconsequential.

Let’s stick to the topic of the thread and stop digressing to Sowore issue. He will forever be a Yoruba and no one can change that.

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YorubaHero12:


Well the opinion of a few cannot be used to justify the opinion of majority. Isn’t it some of you guys that are shouting he was Ijaw before even before this.

I can remeber one guy brought up one link where he was saying Sowore was Ijaw and the guy was Igbo.

Now you’re saying Sowore is Yoruba, should I then use the opinion of other guy to justify yours ?

Can you see the drift. If people that said he ain’t Yoruba are not the majority or leaders of the Yoruba nation, then few nonentities online are inconsequential.

Let’s stick to the topic of the thread and stop digressing to Sowore issue. He will forever be a Yoruba and no one can change that.

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2 grown men felled and got trapped in a filthy smelly gutter, a crane with 2 hooks was brought to pull the 2 of them from such mess, they refused to be pulled together, threatening and fighting each other yet still trapped in their filthyness...

This is the case of Igbos and yourbas youths, i wish they all have access to see the world to indeed know how far most countries has advanced and learn to put the past behind for a great future..


Sometimes i wonder, all these political leaders you worship , who really cares for you, take a big look around you and answer that question..


Southern Nigeria must be realised, if there is one big thing that igbos and yourba understands , it is PROGRESS..

I created a trend for the future yet many still live in the past...
US bombed germany and Japan but today shares great relationship, Russia fought with China and nearly nuked them but today they are great partners.


IGBO +YOURBA + NIGER DELTA =

FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF SOUTHERN NIGERIA

helinues:
One thing is certain, before 2023, southern politicians will work together for power to come down to South.

Irrespective of their political party

They better