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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by googi: 1:37am On Oct 02, 2019
IamaNigerianGuy:


With all due respect you're writing out of ignorance.

Nigerian corpers as junior doctors, regularly and successfully treat tropical conditions during NYSC; and if they don't, why do you assume health officer will ? The experiment with CHEWS, health officers, medical technology graduates has already been performed in northern Nigeria and we all are witness to what a disaster that is.

I expect some reactions from you but check out the meaning of ignorance and tell us what you were doing when Ebola struck. I guess you deserve the world respect and accolades Nigeria got.

Keep on exposing your greed and false sense of accomplishment while engineering graduates languish and remain untapped.

I wish I was an engineer since they remain humble and unassuming.

Are you telling me Primary Health Care was a failure in the North? Do you know who and how it was implemented throughout Nigeria or you were not born then?

Go read up on it and Prof. Olikoye Kuti. We thought we finally got it right.

Once more find out the meaning of ignorance, you may see yourself in the mirror.

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by WeRblessed(f): 2:08am On Oct 02, 2019
which hospital are the gonna work at?

Ndi nzuzu!
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by cococandy(f): 3:00am On Oct 02, 2019
And then you will pay them what or even more than the Nigerian doctors have been asking for since. Retain your workforce by treating them right. Simple common sense. Self hate and inferiority complex won’t kill us.

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Mofpearl: 3:05am On Oct 02, 2019
Mrpsly247:
it ain't just doctor's.. Nigeria is facing a brain drain collapse that is going to destroy the nation.. in every sector to mention the most intellectual & skilled are being lured away with scholarships and better work opportunities.. we often think we are overpopulated.. but most don't know that in the nearest future we are going to be having problems of underpopulation around the world and underdevelopment and overpopulation here in Nigerian because the pace setters and knowledge workers would be poached by foreign nations leaving only empty human shells and mediocre talents to pilot the affairs of the country

I was about to write this.

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by samorobo: 3:24am On Oct 02, 2019
Omenkata:
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Pls ooo don't cancel my post but I want to know why you keep trolling and cancelling post and Youruba-whatever post?...have they offended you to the point you can't forgive? grin grin grin
Pls I am just asking, don't cancel my post oooo grin grin
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Jaqenhghar: 3:51am On Oct 02, 2019
Thats because health is not the priority of Niggerians. Niggerians put money before anything.
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 4:27am On Oct 02, 2019
post=82753986:
The number of Nigerian Doctors abroad are more than enough to care for our 200 Million Population.

This is where we found ourselves after 16 years of misrule.

We are happy to know things are changing for the better in our nation gradually.

Nigeria will be great again in our lifetime.
Slow and steady we will get to a New and better place in our nation.
I was surprised not to see your comment on the reno bread where he displayed the lies buhari told yday. both reno and your buhari are all the same...
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 4:42am On Oct 02, 2019
but a short imp health minister stated last year that those who want to go can F*UCKing go cos the shithole has more than enough doctors!


this damn jungle is fast heading south!
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by ElPhoche(m): 5:06am On Oct 02, 2019
IamaNigerianGuy:


With all due respect you're writing out of ignorance.

Nigerian corpers as junior doctors, regularly and successfully treat tropical conditions during NYSC; and if they don't, why do you assume health officer will ? The experiment with CHEWS, health officers, medical technology graduates has already been performed in northern Nigeria and we all are witness to what a disaster that is.
So you are not tired of relpying every krankum here? As for me, I haff port oh. I can't even tell you how happy it is I am where I am. Only if I could move am my family. I am a confam Naija boy shaa. I would prefer to be visiting instead though
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by mushystuff: 5:38am On Oct 02, 2019
W3xy1:
But former minister said some doctors should go into farming https://www.nairaland.com/4746757/isaac-adewole-not-all-medical

While another one currently serving said we had excess supply of doctors so we could export them!
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by texazzpete(m): 6:00am On Oct 02, 2019
SLAP44:
But, what did you people expect?

You voted a semi literate man who has not seen a Nigerian doctor since his army recruitment testing in 1962 to president and you think he will notice that doctors are leaving Nigeria?

To him, they don't even exist.

While I agree that Buhari is clueless about the brain drain, GEJ didn’t notice either. Was he ‘illiterate’ too?

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by anonimi: 6:06am On Oct 02, 2019
Saintp:
Third world shithole. Lol

Maybe they will import Buhari's doctor from London

You are the baddest bobo in the area grin


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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by anonimi: 6:09am On Oct 02, 2019
texazzpete:
While I agree that Buhari is clueless about the brain drain, GEJ didn’t notice either. Was he ‘illiterate’ too?

I thought that Jonathan increased minimum wage to N18,000 within one year of being president from N7,500, which cascades down to all workers, including those in the health sector?
Has the confused bubu done anything similar despite the hike in fuel, exchange rates, inflation, unemployment etc?

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by SIRTee15: 6:31am On Oct 02, 2019
PoliticalWitch:
On a more serious note, we do have a shortage of medics. However, the shortage precceds Buhari's administration by decades.

Let's start with the fact that we are not turning out enough doctors yearly because of limited spaces in our unviersites (ironically the UK too has this problem...which is why they heavily recruit doctors from abroad....and why some UK citizens even go abroad to get their degrees!)...plus the fact that we are not even turning out enough specialist doctors.

Which leads to the next issue....funding. As it is, we spend $2bn on health annually. That money isn't enough. Add the fact that most hospitals charge very low hospital fees...and you have chronically underfunded hosptials.,....which at the teaching hospital level has an impact on training for doctors.

The Unions....NARD , NMA, etc have been crying about this for years...(an amusing thing I note about both the party supporters here....SLAPP44 and ...is that both APC and PDP have refused to listen to the cries of the medical doctor unions about funding)...and government doesn't listen to them.

But the sad thing is at the end of the day., we need money to improve conditions of service etc. I don't see APC improving the economy the way they should to improve funding...which leaves us with

1.Taking a loan

2.Raising hospital fees, taxes, etc to levels that would allow our hospitals be sustainably funded and financed....so that they can train more medics

3.Increasing university spaces...which means that the APC government should for example consider adding an extra 2 trillion naira for universites yearly.(which can be raised by remoiving subsides on fuel).

Are u not tired of repeating same shit every now n then...
Different username, same old dry stale...
Increase tax, increase fees, increase loan bla bla bla...
No fresh ideas at all....
U beginning to sound like a crack c.d.....

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by danjalingo: 6:39am On Oct 02, 2019
It has always been our culture to export raw materials and import finished goods.
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 6:53am On Oct 02, 2019
ElPhoche:

So you are not tired of relpying every krankum here? As for me, I haff port oh. I can't even tell you how happy it is I am where I am. Only if I could move am my family. I am a confam Naija boy shaa. I would prefer to be visiting instead though
where you are , do the doctors strike so that other health professionals does not get a raise in paycheck? u ppl kill health sector in Nigeria anf then run out. shame on u all
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Paulo3ree(m): 7:04am On Oct 02, 2019
Confused nation, you frustrate them, they go on strike to register there pain's you ignored and played them, by oath they know there work depends 92% on calm grey matter, now they carry there bags straight to places that understand, leaving the nation shortage of medical pro's. Now you are considering expatriates possibly or certainly paid with foreign currency and a good package.
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by frankobinna(m): 7:37am On Oct 02, 2019
eTECTIV:
Dis is really funny. D ones wey dey here dey export demselves becos dey are underpaid and d conditions here isn't encouraging and dis ppl are talking about importing. Import from where and pay dem how?

Probably from India
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by frankobinna(m): 7:41am On Oct 02, 2019
You will never hear such
News from china who also
Celebrate 70 years yesterday

Nigeria leaders has failed the
Citizen and also toying with
Their feelings
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by texazzpete(m): 7:53am On Oct 02, 2019
anonimi:


I thought that Jonathan increased minimum wage to N18,000 within one year of being president from N7,500, which cascades down to all workers, including those in the health sector?
Has the confused bubu done anything similar despite the hike in fuel, exchange rates, inflation, unemployment etc?

You think the problems in the health sector are about minimum wage?

It’s also a bit mischievous of you to bring this up as a win, considering the number of times doctors went on strike under GEJ. I guess the minimum wage increase didn’t fix that, eh?

You’re a bright chap, but your problem is that you’re too fixated on partisan lines. I loathe both GEJ and Buhari’s performances, and that’s easy to do because I’m a taxpayer who pays a SUBSTANTIAL amount of money in tax and sees his money wasted by successive poor leaders.


I hope your tax bill goes up significantly under a PDP administration so you can join me in raging against the machine without looking at political party cheesy

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Omenkata: 8:26am On Oct 02, 2019
samorobo:


Pls ooo don't cancel my post but I want to know why you keep trolling and cancelling post and Youruba-whatever post?...have they offended you to the point you can't forgive? grin grin grin
Pls I am just asking, don't cancel my post oooo grin grin
i don't know what you're talking about bro
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by anonimi: 9:08am On Oct 02, 2019
texazzpete:
You think the problems in the health sector are about minimum wage?

It’s also a bit mischievous of you to bring this up as a win, considering the number of times doctors went on strike under GEJ. I guess the minimum wage increase didn’t fix that, eh?

You’re a bright chap, but your problem is that you’re too fixated on partisan lines. I loathe both GEJ and Buhari’s performances, and that’s easy to do because I’m a taxpayer who pays a SUBSTANTIAL amount of money in tax and sees his money wasted by successive poor leaders.

I hope your tax bill goes up significantly under a PDP administration so you can join me in raging against the machine without looking at political party cheesy

I am a realist who understands that the issue is beyond the president whether Jonathan or Buhari. The issue is about us and our preferences as well as our seriousness about governance and our communities hence giving other political office holders a free pass while focusing, almost exclusively on the president.
Having said the above, Jonathan is comprehensively way better than Buhari just as Atiku is also. Given that these were the viable options available in 2015 and 2019, partly due to the issues described in the preceding paragraph, I supported both over much more incompetent Buhari and am very proud of my choice.
The partisan line is necessary to balance the propaganda of APC, which is super sleek compared to the almost non-existence of PDP in this area.
Finally, I am not a PDP person beyond supporting their candidates since 2013 over their fellow rogues in APC.

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 9:08am On Oct 02, 2019
frankobinna:
You will never hear such
News from china who also
Celebrate 70 years yesterday

Nigeria leaders has failed the
Citizen and also toying with
Their feelings

I am very very amused at this comment...because the Chinese too have their own problems

1.China is run by a very repressive dictatorship. I assure you they make Buhari look nice by comparison.

2.Since 1949, China has been run by a sucession of dictators. Mao Zedong , the first of them , was responsible for various polices that led to the deaths of tens of millions of people. Tens of millions.

3.In China, the state actively interferes in the practice of religion. As a Muslim or a Christian you cannot practice your faith independently.,you must practice it as the government dictates.

4.Now, on to China's economic prosperity.

a) Until 1979, China was a very broke nation. Their GDP in 1974 was less than that of Sierra Leone.
b)China became prosperous because Deng Xiaoping brought in capitalist reforms...ie allowed companies to flourish, and brought in industrializaiton...which has led to China being a manufacturer and the world's second largest economy.
c) Crucial to that development has been the development of a very rigorous education sector (so hard, you start preparing for their equivalent of the WASSSCE and JAMB when one is in their equivalent of our primary 5)...and an emphasis on techincal education (here in Nigeria , we laugh at techincians as dull people.
d) Even then, a lot of people live in poverty, there are areas in the countryside that are as poor as our own rural areas, and the welfare system does not cover everyone.

The thing is, China is not the paradise you think it is...it is a nation with large inequites between the rich and poor, a very repressive government which still restricts what you can do or say, and a non-existent welfare system.

Oh and their educaiton system? Designed to fail as many students as possible. Their equivalent of our JSCE//Junior WAEC is designed to fail as many as 50% OF THE examinees. 50% Their university exams are even tougher.
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by anonimi: 9:11am On Oct 02, 2019
texazzpete:
You think the problems in the health sector are about minimum wage?

To answer your question, NO, it is not the (only) problem.

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by texazzpete(m): 9:17am On Oct 02, 2019
anonimi:


I am a realist who understands that the issue is beyond the president whether Jonathan or Buhari. The issue is about us and our preferences as well as our seriousness about governance and our communities hence giving other political office holders a free pass while focusing, almost exclusively on the president.
Having said the above, Jonathan is comprehensively way better than Buhari just as Atiku is also. Given that these were the viable options available in 2015 and 2019, partly due to the issues described in the preceding paragraph, I supported both over much more incompetent Buhari and am very proud of my choice.
The partisan line is necessary to balance the propaganda of APC, which is super sleek compared to the almost non-existence of PDP in this area.
Finally, I am not a PDP person beyond supporting their candidates since 2013 over their fellow rogues in APC.

Good answer, well said.

I make no secret of my dislike for Jonathan’s performance, but I must reluctantly agree that Buhari is a much worse outcome.

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by anonimi: 9:19am On Oct 02, 2019
texazzpete:
Good answer, well said.

I make no secret of my dislike for Jonathan’s performance, but I must reluctantly agree that Buhari is a much worse outcome.

I knew he would be and worked to avoid it as much as I could.
Is that my sin grin

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Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by Nobody: 10:49am On Oct 02, 2019
Thank God say i no dey fall sick talk less of visiting an hospital for treatment.lol na joke i dey joke oo! even if i never derive any benefit from something,that doesn't mean i should not be concerned abou it.inasmuch it is beneficial to others. w
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by frankobinna(m): 11:37am On Oct 02, 2019
PoliticalWitch:


I am very very amused at this comment...because the Chinese too have their own problems

1.China is run by a very repressive dictatorship. I assure you they make Buhari look nice by comparison.

2.Since 1949, China has been run by a sucession of dictators. Mao Zedong , the first of them , was responsible for various polices that led to the deaths of tens of millions of people. Tens of millions.

3.In China, the state actively interferes in the practice of religion. As a Muslim or a Christian you cannot practice your faith independently.,you must practice it as the government dictates.

4.Now, on to China's economic prosperity.

a) Until 1979, China was a very broke nation. Their GDP in 1974 was less than that of Sierra Leone.
b)China became prosperous because Deng Xiaoping brought in capitalist reforms...ie allowed companies to flourish, and brought in industrializaiton...which has led to China being a manufacturer and the world's second largest economy.
c) Crucial to that development has been the development of a very rigorous education sector (so hard, you start preparing for their equivalent of the WASSSCE and JAMB when one is in their equivalent of our primary 5)...and an emphasis on techincal education (here in Nigeria , we laugh at techincians as dull people.
d) Even then, a lot of people live in poverty, there are areas in the countryside that are as poor as our own rural areas, and the welfare system does not cover everyone.

The thing is, China is not the paradise you think it is...it is a nation with large inequites between the rich and poor, a very repressive government which still restricts what you can do or say, and a non-existent welfare system.

Oh and their educaiton system? Designed to fail as many students as possible. Their equivalent of our JSCE//Junior WAEC is designed to fail as many as 50% OF THE examinees. 50% Their university exams are even tougher.








Am not here to doubt or argue with you
But do you believe that Nigeria has number
Of poor people than china irrespective of the two country population.

Today china GDP is 19 Trillion dollars
Close to USA which is 20 Trillion

Now what difference have Nigeria government
Done since 1960
Even if Chinese government are dictators as you say, they are far better than all our political leaders put together.

Religion and education put aside
Let's compare the two country in terms
Of good living and human right
Re: Nigeria May Import Doctors To Address Shortage — Medical Guild by ElPhoche(m): 10:20am On Oct 04, 2019
camobri:

where you are , do the doctors strike so that other health professionals does not get a raise in paycheck? u ppl kill health sector in Nigeria and then run out. shame on u all
F**k off : cool Where I am, they invest well in their health system, pay their doctors well, don't kill them with work, respect them. And don't go all over on social media waiting for an opportunity to abuse them too.

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