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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:16pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OkCornel: You don't agree with all JWs doctrine but you agree with some. OkCornel: Tithing may be one of the least of our Christian duties but that does not make it a requirement for making heaven. OkCornel: Can you please mention some of JWs doctrine you agree with? OkCornel: In essentials, unity but in non essentials, liberty. OkCornel: No fallacy should be acceptable and justifiable. The fact that you find a particular doctrine unacceptable to you doesn't make it fallacious. OkCornel: Why would you look for the wheat in the midst of tares? I'll advise you to familiarise yourself with some essential doctrines of the Bible. See an excerpt below: The essential doctrines of the Christian faith that emerge from this historical approach are those contained in the Apostles Creed and unfolded in subsequent creeds of the first five centuries. These include (1) human depravity, (2) Christs virgin birth, (3) Christ's sinlessness, (4) Christ's deity, (5) Christ's humanity, (6) God's unity, (7) God's triunity, (8.) the necessity of God's grace, (9) the necessity of faith, (10) Christ's atoning death, (11) Christ's bodily resurrection, (12) Christ's bodily ascension, (13) Christ's present High Priestly service, and (14) Christ's second coming, final judgment, and reign. Heaven and hell are implied in the final judgment and are explicated in later creeds.
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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 1:18pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Bondatt: Now it's obvious you need help! Let me give you a piece of advice. People learn everyday and it's through so many means, so there is no organization on this planet that will deprive their members to stop learning. Not even Jehovah's Witnesses, whose followers are out there always discussing with people about their faith. So get your facts right before thinking someone could be arrested, imprisoned or killed for chatting with strangers on social media! |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 1:20pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Bondatt: Keep it up my friend, you're really trying. So next time try harder! |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Janosky: 1:27pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: OLAADEGBU LYING.... From your profile that Santa Claus graphics where you equated Christmas celebration with idolatry..... (*modified). https://answersingenesis.org/media/cartoons/after-eden/adam-in-christmas/ (Is OLAADEGBU is a pseudonym for David Letha ? Only God knows...) https://dailypost.ng/2013/12/22/stop-celebrating-christmas-idolatory-kumuyi-warns-members/ Non deeper lifers, (AKA "idol worshippers" are at liberty to differ on non essential doctrines" Wetin Musa no go see for gate? 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:30pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Janosky: The ability to lie must be part of your doctrines. What did I remove from my profile? 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 1:32pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Janosky: No problem Sir, Christmas is NONE ESSENTIAL OLAADEGBU just said those involving in the festival are idolaters, but since it's none essential such idolaters will enter into the kingdom of God! 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Janosky: 1:39pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:The network was slow in coming up.. The Santa Claus graphics is STILL on your profile.
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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:40pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Maximus69: We don't have to wait for Christmas to celebrate Jesus. We celebrate Jesus everyday. You can see that Charles Russel is still dead.
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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 1:53pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: @bolded is right! That's why we go preaching and teaching in our neighborhood about what Jesus laid down as principles, we do this not only formally by mouth declaration but also through our conduct as we love what is good and hate what is bad! So we make it clear to all those celebrating Christmas that Birthdays celebration is not from God's people, so you can't find just one worshiper of God celebrate birthday in the Bible! God warned his people not to copy anything from idol worshipers, and birthday came from pagans! Jesus never celebrated his birthday, his parents never celebrated it in his behalf and his followers never did. For physical man to know that God abhors Christmas, it's during that period that mankind do record evil deeds most including disasters! So all those participating in it are pagans and they need to change! 1Corinthians 10:20 But why are you now hiding under the "none essential" code so that Christmas lovers won't castigate you? 3 Likes |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Janosky: 2:02pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
poik:Is photocopy of the same quality as the original? Is there a day, week or month ,you don't offend your wife, kids, your fellow men etc? Luke13:24, "Exert yourself vigorously to get in through the narrow door" into the kingdom of God, that's the point Jesus Christ emphasized. Compare Mark12:29-33. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OkCornel(m): 2:10pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Guy, please look inwards first. Are you perfectly okay with the lies of monetary tithing peddled in deeper life, Living Faith, RCCG e.t.c. before jumping out to accuse another denomination? It's baffling how certain lies and falsehoods are swept under the carpet of "non-essential doctrines" I haven't gotten a direct response on denominations with "0% poison" in their drinks bro.
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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Janosky: 2:10pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
potent5:Nwokem, coolu temper ..... Ignorance and bigotry are curable diseases. Pls, seek the cure. Galatians 6:10. John 8:32. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 2:14pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Charles is NOT Jesus so what has this discuss got to do with him? |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Janosky: 2:16pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:Your last sentence, very childish. Please grow up. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:19pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Maximus69: The 'Jesus' you preach is another Jesus who cannot save. Maximus69: "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ"(Colossians 2:16-17). As you can see in the verses quoted above, that Christians are not in any legalistic bondage as to whether they can celebrate birthdays or not, we are at liberty wherever the scriptures have not specifically forbidden us. For where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty. 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by TemmyT002(m): 2:24pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Now, this is weird |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Janosky: 2:30pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
malvisguy212: If you're well grounded in God's word the holy Bible, you won't post that SCRAP question above. "The Father in heaven gives holy spirit to those asking HIM". Luke11:13. NOT everyone. Faith is one of the fruits of the holy spirit, it's not everyone's possession. Matt7:7. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Janosky: 2:34pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:Yet you and your god of men say Christmas celebration is idolatry. Stop deceiving yourself. |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 2:35pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Oh it escaped my mind! Kumuyi also celebrated his birthday, so it's none essential! Well, Charles also used to celebrated birthdays and Christmas during his lifetime. But God's people no more join in such pagan celebrations today. That's to tell you next time when discussing about what Jehovah's Witnesses believe today, try to get the update. Russell is not the founder of this organization, otherwise it's just what he laid down that we will still be following till date. He never bear the group name Jehovah's Witnesses because he died before 1920 and the organization adopted the name in 1931. So next time we're discussing about what God's people believe, try to get the update. That's why we're different from all your folks who will never change the doctrine laid down by their human founders. Yet they'll be expecting God's progressive organization to accept them as our brothers in Christ! |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 2:38pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Janosky: Faith is not a possession of everyone! 2Thessalonians 3:2 |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Hairyrapunzel: 2:38pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
TemmyT002: You are a jw. Just say these are the reasons you feel your religion is better than other Christian religions. 1. THEY FACE MORE PERSECUTIONS They don't face more persecution than other Christians. In fact what index did you use to measure the level of persecution against them and the other Christian religions? Russia banned their religion. When you preach that your jehovah will come destroy every government on earth and most of earth's people because they don't pay allegiance to a new York publishing company what do you expect? Russia and USA don't get along so well Jw in nazi Germany wouldn't hail Hitler because Rutherford told them not to. On the contrary, the Jews were killed even if they where Catholics, jws or protestants. The bottom line is the Jews didn't have a choice while jws had. Stop trying to make it look like the persecution was targeted at them. If you even know history you will find out that Rutherford even supported Hitler sef. b]2. DONATIONS ARE VOLUNTARY[/b] A donation isn't voluntary anymore when you tell or remind people what to donate, how to donate, why they should donate, when to donate, who to donate to and where to donate. Every religion has a way of taxing its members including jws. In fact jw is worse because they use emotional blackmail to make you donate to their religion. Last last donation is never voluntary as far as religion is concerned. There is always a motive behind them. Different religions have different names they call these donations. Members pay towards the publishing of their magazines. Watchtower is a publishing company fronting as a religion. Handing out free publications is their own method of securing converts. If those publications were not free they wont have the amount of followers they have now. 3. MEMBERS AND SOCIAL MEDIA You don't judge people because they refuse to preach via social media handles. Jws just use the means to count time so they can show the number of hours spent on preach When their jehovah comes to slaughter non jws during their upcoming armageddon inside their head. Normal jw way big time judgemental pricks. Don't judge people for using their social media platforms for other activities. It's not yours but theirs.you are now God abi? 4. EVANGELISM Every religion on earth derive certain methods to increase their followers. Every religion engages in evangelism. Pentecostal churches and even Catholic churches have more members than jws. Mormons have more members than jws yet they started their religion the same time. God never gave the instruction of going house to house. Jw go from house to house because gb told them that if they don't go house to house, the blood of those people (because their jehovah will destroy/slaughter them) will be on their hands. In fact the door to door is just to save themselves. To say that they tried their best when their jehovah is destroying people who don't conform to their mode of worship. 5. TESTIMONIES How people give their own testimonies is now a yardstick for saying jw are better than the rest Christian. The life of jw revolve around watchtower organisation because they believe belonging to watchtower organisation is the only means by which you will be saved when armageddon comes so they will do anything to get this salvation eg working for watchtower organisation. They actually don't give testimonies about their lives because their leaders have conditioned them to think they are worthless as human beings and the only reason their jehovah can ever love them is if they go out of their way to do things for watchtower organisation. Jw also believe that the only testimony is them living forever on paradise earth (their real life) so why should they talk about any personal good thing in this their present life which they consider the fake life? b]6. THEY ARE ORDERLY AND CALM[/b] It's not still a yardstick to say they are better than other Christians. If calm and orderly like you explained is the real deal then your jehovah and jesus would have said so. Continue judging other Christians. All these show that you have never stepped foot in any church asides your kingdom hall. You keep talking based on hearsay. b]6. THEY ARE ORDERLY AND CALM[/b] The same people that will stop showing you love/ cut social ties / shun/ ostracized/ stop talking to you/ stop giving you assistance once they disfellowship you. Lol The same people that say their jehovah forbids blood transfusion even for a small child or someone that is near death. Lol show of love indeed. You are another jw who wants to advertise your watchtower organisation. 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:28pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OkCornel: How will you know a lie when you see it? OkCornel: You need to spend some time studying and obeying the truth for you to be able to discern what is a lie. OkCornel: For you to discover counterfeit money you need to spend time studying the genuine ones. Let me leave you with the inspired Words of the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Truth personified: "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed"(John 8:32-36) |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OkCornel(m): 3:32pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Is the below picture a truth or a lie; please don't give a response as to whether you're a Living Faith member or not. Let's start with this one.
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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OkCornel(m): 3:41pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Please can someone put the contents of the latest Awake or Watchtower Magazine here? I guess we have peeps who would rather focus on the bad, and turn a blind eye to the good... I repeat, almost every denomination has its flaws, especially if we begin to examine each one by one in detail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf-fmJkbRwI |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:45pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Maximus69: That is to remind you that the founder of your society who sold you down the path of destruction remains dead and his remains still in the grave but Jesus resurrected bodily and His alive to live forever more. What is the difference between what you believe now and then? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO2Mg_NBL5Y Watch the videoclip and see what Charles Russell believed in the beginning of his society. What was the meaning of the cross and a crown engraved on that pyramid?
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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:47pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
TemmyT002: Are you saying the essential doctrines of Christianity is weird to you? |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:51pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Janosky: Anything or person you worship other than God is idolatry. Your Watchtower magazine and NWT bible says Jesus died on a stake when the Word of God says He died on the cross. Why is a cross and a crown engraved on Charles Russell's pyramid? |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Nobody: 4:07pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Hmmmmmmmmmm, You're far away from the truth Sir! John prepared the way for Christ but they both taught things that's different, why? John taught people to continue keeping what the law says while Jesus came to fulfill the law and end it! Roman 10:1-4 If Charles is the founder as you're taught about us, how come the teachings changed? |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:08pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
Maximus69: I know you have to keep updating the 'truth' that you preach because your 'truths' are always changing. So the latest lie is to teach that Charles Taze Russell is no longer the founder of your organisation because it's name has changed? You just sold your founder under the bus. I realise that you are not allowed to carry out independent research except what they indoctrinate you with. If you are interested in knowing the background of your society click on the link below. https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/witnesses/history/history.shtml 1 Like |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:10pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OkCornel: Jesus is the picture of the Truth because He is the Truth personified. Do you know Him? |
Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OkCornel(m): 4:14pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: This does not in anyway answer my question. The person in the picture below knows Jesus or claims to know Him (whichever you find more applicable) Is the picture below the truth? Yes or No Oh well, I guess we should sweep it under the carpet as one of those "non-essential doctrines" It's also refreshing to know Kumuyi will eventually uproot some doctrines he installed in deeper life before he leaves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf-fmJkbRwI
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Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:25pm On Oct 21, 2019 |
OkCornel: "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me" (John 14:6). It doesn't matter whether you know men of God or not what really matters is do you know the Truth? OkCornel: Pastor Kumuyi never said that he would 'uproot some doctrines he installed' you are beginning to show that you really believe lies instead of the truth. Please repent and put your trust in Jesus for you to come to the knowledge of truth.
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