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Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by princeakinola1(m): 7:46am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Bible will not and never against his self,you need Holy Spirit to read and understand |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by IamAtikulate: 7:49am On Oct 06, 2019 |
paxonel:You are a true teacher of the Word. This is exactly what I answered the dude without even seeing yours. If the guy is not being mischievous, he would have known that this simple fact. Jesus operated under the law to save us from the curse of the law while his Apostles' operated in this present dispensation of Grace. Why did he singled out Paul? All the Apostles' after Jesus gave the same message because they all understood the new era. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Outreachms: 7:49am On Oct 06, 2019 |
No difference.....The only difference is your LACK of understanding......when you don't understand, please ask the HOLY SPIRIT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Brunicekid(m): 7:50am On Oct 06, 2019 |
The Word of God is Perfect. Albeit, there is no contradictions in his word. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Truefaith: 7:51am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by imanray37(m): 7:52am On Oct 06, 2019 |
You read the Bible with decernings of the flesh that's why you felt there's a contradiction, at first I thought you were a converted Alfa,a lawyer or a historian looking for loopholes to become an athies Well you are entitled and tied to your opinions. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Emyogalanya: 8:03am On Oct 06, 2019 |
unstoppable51:islamists on the loose again always every sunday morning. I know you are not even a christian at all. If not how will you not know that there was no diff in those words you Quoted. An as even paul will say if any man Preaches any other Gospel, let him be Anathema (acursed). pls go home and Enjoy your Curse |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by MrPresident1: 8:03am On Oct 06, 2019 |
There is no contradiction between Paul and Jesus. Beware of dogs. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by albassawy: 8:04am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Many early Christian sect's regarded Paul as an imposter and traitor. By Deborah Sexton "Why do I tell you about Paul ? Because scripture tells me: “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: for he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” (2 John 10-11) This means both the people, and their teachings They Crept In Unawares Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Saul changed his name to Paul, because everyone had heard of Saul, and was afraid of him Paul knew he couldn’t kill all those who were seeking God, and becoming spiritually powerful, so he decided to infiltrate them, teach them another doctrine, and lead them away from God, thus taking away their power. He was unable to persuade the Jews because they were anchored in the word, so he turned to the Gentiles Satan’s Seat Revelation 2 13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. 14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. 15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate. I believe Antipas is Stephen. Paul bragged about consenting to his death Acts 22:20 And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. Did the Apostles accept Paul? Many Christians think that the Apostles, and disciples of Yahshua accepted Paul, both as a Christian, and an Apostle, but this is untrue Acts 9:26 “And when Saul was come to Jerusalem, he assayed to join himself to the disciples: but they were all afraid of him, and believed not that he was a disciple”. They did not accept him, they were afraid, and leery of Paul. They were wary due to realistic suspicions of the man they knew was Saul. God never told the disciples that Paul was of him, but told the prophets to separate from Paul, and his men Sent Away By The Prophets God revealed to the prophets that Paul had a special work to do for God, the same type work that Judas Iscariot was here to do, so the prophets laid hands on Paul, and his men, and sent them away from their group. (the prophets didn’t see them off, they sent them away)_ Acts 13 (KJV) 1 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. Ezekiel 33:8-20 [Tanach] 8 When I say to the wicked, O wicked man, you shall surely die; if you do not speak to warn the wicked man to turn from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand. 9 But, if you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you would have saved your soul. Paul’s followers were the Gentiles who were unfamiliar with the word of God. They readily accepted Paul because they wanted to be a part of those who belonged to God and the family of God. All the Jewish followers such as Barnabas turned away from Paul after they saw who he really was. Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by mancheeutd(m): 8:04am On Oct 06, 2019 |
As soon as I read the first verses you quoted I bother not to read again cos I know you don't understand what you are talking about 1 Like |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by SEGLIZ: 8:06am On Oct 06, 2019 |
................OP may remain blessed with the full knowledge and wisdom of God. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Nobody: 8:07am On Oct 06, 2019 |
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Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by DSoj(m): 8:09am On Oct 06, 2019 |
U are just not making sense. What's the difference. ..? English is too hard for U. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by SEGLIZ: 8:13am On Oct 06, 2019 |
albassawy: do you truly believe this whole thing you posted, like Paul is Saul and not a genuine man of God and true follower of Jesus? |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Kokoebapluse(m): 8:14am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Jésus was circumcise but Paul said its bad habit, Paul is à great liar and hé is leading christain to hell Paul never seen Jésus or meet him but he wrote all lie about jesus Both Matthew, Mark, luke, John all of them are liars that even contradict themselves in their book, or can any christain tell us How many angel Mary saw at thé grave of Jésus after resurection ? |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by albassawy: 8:18am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Paul correcting Peter Peter was chosen by Yahshua to lead his “church,” what authority does Paul have to “oppose him to his face” and call him a hypocrite, and correcting a person who personally knew Yahshua and his teachings? While at the same time stating “I have become all things to all men” imitating whatever people he finds himself among? (1 Corinthians 9:22) Paul says “Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness” (ROMANS 10:4) and calls Israel ignorant for seeking righteousness by doing God’s law (ROMANS 10:3) Many say Paul had to be of God because he performed many signs and wonders. But Yahshua warned of this (Matthew 24:24) “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect’. Paul claimed he himself was the son of God (Galatians 1:16) Paul was never recognized as an apostle by the real apostles, disciples OR Yahshua Paul was never repentant for being the greatest persecutor of Christians at that time! He even boasted about it! Over and Over Paul declared he was teaching another Gospel of which he himself was the Father Paul taught the exact Opposite of what Yahshua and His real Apostles did. Paul said God’s law was a Curse. Yahshua and God said it was a blessing. Who’s lying? Yahshua Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27), circumcise male children (Luke 2:21), (It was a reminder of the Covenant between God and Israel) Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26) that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21 Paul declares it’s ok to eat meat sacrificed to idols ” For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than THESE NECESSARY THINGS: That you ABSTAIN FROM MEATS offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled and from fornication…”(Acts 15:28:29) ” But I (Yahshua) have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a STUMBLING BLOCK before the children of Israel, TO EAT THINGS SACRIFICED TO IDOLS ” (Revelation 2:14) 1 Corinthians 8 4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 8. But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. 10. For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol’s temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; If what you believe is true why does the Bible say there will be a famine of God’s word, especially in a day when information is so easily accessed? Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: Amos 8:12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Truefaith: 8:18am On Oct 06, 2019 |
The main issue of today is FALSE TEACHERS and FALSE CHRISTS presenting themselves as servants of God and deceiving countless millions about the true God Many of them are pure occultists A prime example was the founder of the REDEEMED CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD Watch A SHAMAN FOUNDS A CHURCH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qGVHchsa4o |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by indomitable234: 8:19am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Apostle Paul's teachings were based on the finish work of Christ on the cross of calvary |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Adakintroy2: 8:24am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Some of you just want to create topics to spar with fellow religious intellectuals. Not because things are not clear enough. Paul studied at the feet of christ. A very humble servant at that. His intro to every chapter does not fail to aknowledge this. Of all the likeness to draw,(meekness, forgiveness, love compassion, wisdom, truth, hope, faith). you only spot the few contracdictions that one can even owe to translations. you just want to start arguments. Funny thing Paul spoke of your kind. Men who long to be seen as teachers. They are about things that are likely to bring disputes than things that foster more unity in the body. Paul teachings are the same as christ teachings. That's were the argument begins and ends..no further opening. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Ajoboss(m): 8:28am On Oct 06, 2019 |
mrvitalis:so bro. I'm summary,what are u saying? |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Nobody: 8:30am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Jargon! When Christ Jesus Himself chooses Saul who became Paul, and you wrote to it its contrary or seems to be. What's going on with....... Be guided! Weren't daft here! |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Nobody: 8:31am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Oluwadamilare118: |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by ObaKlaz: 8:38am On Oct 06, 2019 |
mrvitalis:Have you ever read John 10:16, brother? |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by JonOlive: 8:39am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Wonderful, great exposition! God bless u for this post. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by OkCornel(m): 8:42am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Any teaching on Salvation and grace that downplays on repentance is fraud! 1) Jesus said, “REPENT! for the kingdom of God is at hand”. 2) Paul wrote, “Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid!” Anyone who thinks God’s grace is a liberty to commit sin and justify a sinful lifestyle, you are on a long thing. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Nobody: 8:48am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Forget this nonsense argument. What you should be asking is why Africans are wicked! |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Cfab(m): 8:49am On Oct 06, 2019 |
albassawy: albassawy:[quote author=albassawy post=82882330]Paul correcting Peter Peter was chosen by Yahshua to lead his “church,” what authority does Paul have to “oppose him to his face” and call him a hypocrite, and correcting a person who personally knew Yahshua and his teachings? While at the same time stating “I have become all things to all men” imitating whatever people he finds himself among? (1 Corinthians 9:22) Paul says “Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness” (ROMANS 10:4) and calls Israel ignorant for seeking righteousness by doing God’s law (ROMANS 10:3) Many say Paul had to be of God because he performed many signs and wonders. But Yahshua warned of this (Matthew 24:24) “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect’. Paul claimed he himself was the son of God (Galatians 1:16) Paul was never recognized as an apostle by the real apostles, disciples OR Yahshua Paul was never repentant for being the greatest persecutor of Christians at that time! He even boasted about it! Over and Over Paul declared he was teaching another Gospel of which he himself was the Father Paul taught the exact Opposite of what Yahshua and His real Apostles did. Paul said God’s law was a Curse. Yahshua and God said it was a blessing. Who’s lying? Yahshua Said: Keep the Sabbath (Mark 2:27), circumcise male children (Luke 2:21), (It was a reminder of the Covenant between God and Israel) Paul Said: Circumcision is not necessary (Romans 2:26) that is going against what the Christ said in Luke 2:21 Paul declares it’s ok to eat meat sacrificed to idols ” For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than THESE NECESSARY THINGS: That you ABSTAIN FROM MEATS offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled and from fornication…”(Acts 15:28:29) ” But I (Yahshua) have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a STUMBLING BLOCK before the children of Israel, TO EAT THINGS SACRIFICED TO IDOLS ” (Revelation 2:14) 1 Corinthians 8 4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 8. But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. 10. For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol’s temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; If what you believe is true why does the Bible say there will be a famine of God’s word, especially in a day when information is so easily accessed? Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: Amos 8:12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.[what is this one saying. Are u sure u are a christian] |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by OkCornel(m): 8:50am On Oct 06, 2019 |
koyyes: Gbam! Spot on! Very religious, but yet selfish and wicked. Too much hypocrisy abeg. |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by OBAGADAFFI: 8:51am On Oct 06, 2019 |
mrvitalis: Read John 3 vs16 |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by Nobody: 8:52am On Oct 06, 2019 |
princeade86:The fact that as at the time i quoted this comment 13 people have already liked the illogical comment makes me amazed. That means all 13 people never read to the end and understood properly the content of the message. Their(the 13 likers) action shows how most people lose salvation because of impatience. #pathetic 1 Like |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by aylive02(m): 9:08am On Oct 06, 2019 |
001spice:thank God you saw it too |
Re: Are The Teachings Of Paul Truly Against The Teachings Of Jesus? by salbis(m): 9:17am On Oct 06, 2019 |
Yabsun:. Remain blessed for this explanation. Shalom brother! |
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