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Fela Supported Biafra by EzeUche0(m): 10:00am On Nov 06, 2010 |
‘Fela was about Africa' When I started relating with Fela in 1974, 1975, I said to him what you are saying should be in a book because this is important. He said no, he didn't want anything about a book. We were discussing with each other about how we could bring the whole continent together, how we could eliminate the borders, how we could have a federation. How we could break up these artificial countries. Because this thing called Nigeria, Ghana, Benin, Cameroun, it means nothing. It was done by the French, the Portugese, the Spanish and the other colonial powers. http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/ArtsandCulture/5630757-147/story.csp 1 Like
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Re: Fela Supported Biafra by EzeUche0(m): 10:02am On Nov 06, 2010 |
I think I shall tone down my rhetoric concerning the Yoruba. Many children of Oduduwa supported Biafra and this cannot be forgotten my Igbo brethren. My Igbo brothers and sisters, let us not paint the Yoruba people in one stroke. They are a dynamic people, with different views. My favorite Nigerian professor who is Yoruba supported Biafra as well. Even though I hate Awolowo with a passion, I must say that there are good Yorubas who know the truth. God bless them and I take back all the horrible things I have said concerning these wonderful people. 1 Like |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by ElRazur: 10:07am On Nov 06, 2010 |
So you hate people based on the fact of what tribe they are from? You know a man once hated a lot of people on the basis of where they are from etc. His name was Hitler. Do you not see anything wrong with your view point all along, but only after someone posted something about Fela supporting Biafra? I won't say no more. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by Nobody: 10:10am On Nov 06, 2010 |
Stop trippining.FELA never believed in western ideologies and since the union of Nigeria is a product of the europeans,he never really like Nigeria as such.Look through his music,his messages are cleared.He was canvassing for the emancipation of the blacks from the europeans. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by EzeUche0(m): 10:10am On Nov 06, 2010 |
El razur, reread my post and see where I said hate, because I never said I hated another group. I wish people like yourself can read properly. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. I had my prejudices, but everyone in this world has a prejudice. My anger is directed at Yorubas who deny the atrocities who were committed against the Ndi Igbo. I have always stated that I have been a fan of Fela, Wole Soyinka and other Yoruba activist. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by EzeUche0(m): 10:12am On Nov 06, 2010 |
~Bluetooth: And that is why this man was ahead of his time. Fela spoke the truth. Africa will never progress unless we get out of these European made contraptions. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by okosodo: 10:15am On Nov 06, 2010 |
Every rational human does |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by ElRazur: 10:19am On Nov 06, 2010 |
EzeUche0: Admittedly you did not use the word hate, however anyone with half a brain can see in between your lines. Your anger should be directed at those people, not "at those Yorubas". Clearly, your anger is misplaced. More than half of those people whom you despise so much are either dead or not around, but I guess it is convenient for you to direct your anger at "those yorubas" (as oppose to those people in question) While I agree that a mind is a terrible thing to waste, I think having anger at a particular group or tribe like you have said in your post is nothing but an epitome of mind wasting to be honest. Turning around to then say you love or like some Yorubas just goes to further highlight your misplaced anger (that is nothing but hatred) |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by chyz(m): 10:22am On Nov 06, 2010 |
ElRazur: Live and Let live. Be gone! |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by EzeUche0(m): 10:24am On Nov 06, 2010 |
chyz: Thank you! I admit a mistake that I have been perpetuating and he wont let it go. The nerve of some people. As a man, I willing to admit my mistakes. However, I will not continue to defend it. I said what I had to say concerning my misplaced views. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by ElRazur: 10:25am On Nov 06, 2010 |
chyz: What a very valid point. Brimming with brilliance and intelligence. EzeUche0: It is depressing that it takes something written about Fela's view for your to see the error of your ways. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by EzeUche0(m): 10:28am On Nov 06, 2010 |
ElRazur: Who said that it was Fela's words? How do you know that I haven't been feeling this way, but I have found the right way to discuss my views? As chyz [/b]said,[b] BE GONE. You will not get any fight from me. Not on this thread. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by Nobody: 10:30am On Nov 06, 2010 |
EzeUche0:I shared most of his views.the british occupation dragged us back but nevertheless all we need is to look back into the pre-colonial era,look at the problems of the past to address the future.The yoruba and benin kingdom used to have the best centralized system of government while the ibo which its diffused system had a liberal and egalitarian one.why can't learn from the glory of the past to solve the present problems,that's the essence of history. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by Nobody: 10:30am On Nov 06, 2010 |
EzeUche0:I shared most of his views.the british occupation dragged us back but nevertheless all we need is to look back into the pre-colonial era,look at the problems of the past to address the future.The yoruba and benin kingdom used to have the best centralized system of government while the ibo which its diffused system had a liberal and egalitarian one.why can't learn from the glory of the past to solve the present problems,that's the essence of history. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by ElRazur: 10:31am On Nov 06, 2010 |
EzeUche0: Clutching for straws, I see. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by EzeUche0(m): 10:35am On Nov 06, 2010 |
~Bluetooth: "Shared" is past tense. So you do not share these views? I think people across Africa would not have these ethnic rivalries or squabbles if we had our own nations. That is my personal view. The real enemy is not our fellow African brothers and sisters, it is the European who continues to divide us. All across the continent, we have forsaken our history. It is actually quite sad. How can Africa progress, if we turned our backs on our customs and our history. Have we forgot the greatness of the Oyo Empire? The strength of Great Benin? The culture of the Kanem-Bornu Empire? The Islamic scholarship of the Hausa States followed by the rise of the Sokoto Caliphate? We as Nigerians must go back to the source. 1 Like |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by Mobinga: 10:38am On Nov 06, 2010 |
You guys are actually taking this topic seriously? Shame |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by Nobody: 10:49am On Nov 06, 2010 |
EzeUche0:We can't go back to the past.what we can only do is to learn from it ;how the pre-colonial age planned a successful political political system that works best for them. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by okosodo: 10:51am On Nov 06, 2010 |
Mobinga: Go and sleep |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by naijaking1: 11:00am On Nov 06, 2010 |
EzeUche0: Are you kidding me? Forsaking our history, when history is still repeating itself in Africa today as we speak. Go to Sudan, the supporters of APC are still using the marauding techniques perfected by that first rogue who set feet on Nigeria soil, you all remember Othman dan Fodio? After killing his host the Hausa king of Gobir for "practicing impure form of islam", Fodio and his criminal gangs continued their raids across all Hausa, Nupe, and some Tiv lands, and almost into the south---killing pillaging, raping/stealing, and 'spreading islam' along the way. Because Fodio is still glorified in certain quarters in Nigeria means the young people are encouraged to emulate him inside and outside of our boarders. I can understand being invaded by a foreign power such as the Europeans, but to be raided by a cunning 'brotherly' visitor in the name of islam is just too bad. We, and not foreigners are our own worst enemies, go ask the southern christian sudanese of today. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by monkeyleg: 11:18am On Nov 06, 2010 |
You guys are missing the point of this post. Ezeuche has acknowledge his failings and has duely apologised. That must be commended, that is a act which is lacking in the Nigerians society as a whole. Perception remains a big problem in Nigeria, and most Nigerians are guilty of it including myself, we must work at understanding each other better. I have an Igbo Friend who recently tried to rent a property in a highbrow area of modern day Lagos and was refused because he was Igbo by the Yoruba landlord. Should this really be allowed to happen in present day Nigeria, if we continue to preach one Nigeria. So lest take it easy and see the positive side to this post. Mazi Ezeuche, I celebrate your honestly, lets treat every individual as an individual not a tribe |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by SapeleGuy: 12:04pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
^^^ Elrazur is correct. He has not apologised, he has merely said he will tone down his He has probably stumbled across Pan Africanism, when the novelty wears off, he will return to his xenophobic best. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by jason12345: 2:15pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
@ ezeuche you have started becoming mature! . you cannot paint an ethnic group with on stroke so as the yorubas don't paint the igbos with one stroke. we humans are very dynamic and we think differently!!!! you need to understand nigeria!!! we all know it was a mistake BUT we cannot split now! that would be the most stupid thing to happen to nigeria. why? 1) there are many intermarriages, where do we want those children to go? 2) even if we spilt, our various economies would be small to make any substantial impact in the world. so people would say uk is small bla bla bla> they do not understand that uk and this various countries are white dominated and do you think they would be willing to see a small economy in africa grow!!! 3)even if we form a loss confederation, it would only be a precursor to spilt the country eventually. 4) there can be no spliting in the CURRENT nigeria without a war. for example 1) do you expect the yorubas to leave kwara state? 2) do you expect the igbos or the north to leave without the oil in the niger delta? etc when two elephants are fighting, its the grasses that suffer all in all, thank you for reasoning!!! |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by Nobody: 2:40pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
EzeUche0: God bless you too. But just out of curiousity, what happened between: Yesterday The least your yeye people could do is stay out of a conflict between the Igbo and the Hausa. But like a weak people, you strike at a people when were not protecting our rear. That is the opportunistic nature of your people. The children of Oduduwa are known betrayers. You all betrayed the Igbo, and now you all have betrayed the Hausa. Everyone in Nigeria knowns the depth that the Yoruba will sink to maintain at least a small bit of power. You Yorubas were jealous of the Igbo prowess and could not wait to see us fall. But now we regained our former glory and are competing with you all in your own land. Now kiss my arse and tell me how it taste. and Today I think I shall tone down my rhetoric concerning the Yoruba. Many children of Oduduwa supported Biafra and this cannot be forgotten my Igbo brethren. My Igbo brothers and sisters, let us not paint the Yoruba people in one stroke. They are a dynamic people, with different views. My favorite Nigerian professor who is Yoruba supported Biafra as well. Even though I hate Awolowo with a passion, I must say that there are good Yorubas who know the truth. God bless them and I take back all the horrible things I have said concerning these wonderful people. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by aljharem(m): 2:46pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
Aigbofa: the igbo know haw to talk about us hausa there dire not talk rubbish, |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by ElRazur: 3:42pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
Aigbofa: Do you mind posting a link of where he said those things. From the onset I knew he was a tribal bigot and probably an admirer of Hitler. Anyone with half a brain can see that his original post was nothing more than rubbish. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by jaygetta(m): 4:07pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
All I could say about the article was "WOw!". |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by Nobody: 4:49pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
jason12345:WE'll take that as a compliment, it was a hard work, but I wont give up alj harem:Seriously tho, how old are you? [no offense]. You and your blood thirsty Hausa sha |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by jason12345: 4:54pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
Ileke-IdI: you tried! i must commend you |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by cap28: 5:22pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
Ezeuche thanks for posting this very uplifting post. Knowledge is essential to the evolution of mankind, i have always loved Fela and his message, just like Carlos Moore i too was electrified by Fela's music when i first heard it many years ago. To date there has never been any african artiste greater than Fela and going by the current crop of fake talentless imbeciles masquerading as musicians on the nigerian music scene it will be a long time before another star with the same originality, genius and outstanding talent as Fela will arise, even his sons Femi and Seun whom i love and respect can not hold a candle to Fela's gargantuan genius. What i find really tragic though is that Fela seems to be revered and respected more by foreigners rather than his own people, this is the problem we will continue to have as a people, Fela used his music to enlighten and educate the nigerian masses about the tyranny that we remain under to date. In one of his songs "look and laugh" he got to a point where he was so disillusioned with the nigerian masses and our unwillingness to change our situation that he became resigned to the situation himself. Even when soldiers stormed his house killing and maiming innocent people, noone stood up to protest against such a heinous act, if such a thing had occurred in a latin american country or even south africa the people would have risen up to challenge the brutality of this action but instead what we got was cowed silence from a population of over 150 million people, a people who have the nerve to describe nigeria as the giant of africa without even a hint of irony!!! Fela was one of the greatest things that ever happened to nigeria and he will go down in history as one of our greatest heroes, i am so grateful for people like Carlos Moore who recognised the genius of this man and took it upon themselves to place the need for truth, honesty and justice above personal gain. You can see that even a co opted member of the nigerian establishment - the inspector general of police at the time had to respect Carlos Moore for his principled conduct, how many nigerian journalists would opt for truth and justice over personal gain? I am really looking forward to reading this book and i shall be trawling amazon to see if i can find it, again thanks for this Ezeuche. 1 Like |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by EzeUche0(m): 5:28pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
cap28, I agree with you whole-heartedly. The whole world recognizes Fela as a great man. He had his shortcomings, but his music transcended it all! It is a shame that many Nigerians could not learn from his songs. I heard that there was a play on Broadway about Fela. The New York Times did a wonderful article on the play. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/theater/22fela.html That man was ahead of his time. |
Re: Fela Supported Biafra by EzeUche0(m): 5:31pm On Nov 06, 2010 |
Aigbofa, I had an epiphany of sorts. In my defense of my people, I should not have belittled other groups. There are other ways to achieve my purpose without resorting to tribal bashing. It actually pained me, because how can I reconcile my post with my love for many aspects of Yoruba culture and people. |
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