senatordave1:

Yes,we are pro nigerians

I have always agreed and noted that and more reason harsh decision must be taken to nip any form of future blackmail to the mud.

Let's see who cries foul.


I'm not indifference to your stand because I have always advocated that.

hammerD:


U AND FRATERMATH.Y NEVER MAKE SENSE.

URHOBO DAT LIVE IN ASABA, AND SHARE STATE WITH IGBO, WHILST FIGHTING IJAW AND ITSEKIRI IN AN UNENDING WAR ARE ONE NATION WITH IJAW AND ITSEKIRI.

WE HAVE NOT EVEN ADD, IBIBIO, EFIK AFEMAI AND MORE THAT ARE IN THIS SS.

U BOYS ARE VERY FUNNY. I WISH U GROW UP A LITTLE THOUGH.

AM NOT BEGGING TO SHARE COUNTRY WITH U, BUT FOR U TO KNOW, U HAVE NO WHERE TO RUN TO.

I don't need to make sense to you because our interests differs. There is no unending war between anybody, it's normal to have communal crisis, it happens everywhere even in East and West.

The beauty of having Ibibio and Efik around is the assurance than no one can suppress anyone, we are doing this for the future.

Nowenuse:


@Efewestern where is Fratermat.hy? Truly I have not heard of him in such a long while. I will like to know his opinions on a subject as this.

And just like this guy is saying above. Truly, a Niger deltan country will need very very serious work and concerted efforts to make it a peaceful one. Especially the western axis where you have the Edos, Urhobos, Ijaws & Itsekiri. How easily do you think these tribes can live in one nation in peace?

Mathy do come around, maybe he is busy.

We can live together, we lived together for ages, truth is, most of us from this axis have a lot in common, we learnt a lot from the previous crisis, so no one is even ready to fight anyone, highest we can do is throw punches on the front pages of newspaper.

We just need to respect boundaries and we will be okay.

cc: MelesZenawi

Efewestern:


I don't need to make sense to you because our interests differs. There is no unending war between anybody, it's normal to have communal crisis, it happens everywhere even in East and West.

The beauty of having Ibibio and Efik around is the assurance than no one can suppress anyone, we are doing this for the future.

WHO TOLD U THAT OUR INTEREST DIFFER?


IN WAT WAYS HAVE IGBO BEEN A THREAT TO YOUR EXISTENCE TILL DATE?


U LIVE ON IGBO LAND IN ASABA IN HUGE NUMBERS AND HAVE EVEN MARRIED SOME OF OUR FINEST WOMEN, SO WAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?


U TALK ABOUT EFIK AND IBIBIO BUT THOSE PEOPLE DONT KNOW URHOBO, THEY ONLY KNOW IGBO.

Efewestern:


Mathy do come around, maybe he is busy.

We can live together, we lived together for ages, truth is, most of us from this axis have a lot in common, we learnt a lot from the previous crisis, so no one is even ready to fight anyone, highest we can do is throw punches on the front pages of newspaper.

We just need to respect boundaries and we will be okay.

cc: MelesZenawi

TAKE FESTUS KEYAMO FOR EXAMPLE, WEN DEY SENT HIM TO WORK WITH AKPABIO, THEY FELT LIKE STRANGE BED FELLOW.

COMPARED TO HIS MOVE TO WORK WITH NGIGE.

LET ME TELL U THAT IGBO IS YOUR STRONGEST CONNECTION AND MAYBE U NEED TO LIVE IN A DISFUNCTIONAL NIGERDELTA FIRST TO REALISE THIS.

hammerD:


TAKE FESTUS KEYAMO FOR EXAMPLE, WEN DEY SENT HIM TO WORK WITH AKPABIO, THEY FELT LIKE STRANGE BED FELLOW.

COMPARED TO HIS MOVE TO WORK WITH NGIGE.

LET ME TELL U THAT IGBO IS YOUR STRONGEST CONNECTION AND MAYBE U NEED TO LIVE IN A DISFUNCTIONAL NIGERDELTA FIRST TO REALISE THIS.

And this is embarrassing.

Stop embarrassing Igbos with this your comments.


Keyamo redeployment was in order and your reason is the most foolish on Earth totally different from government reason.

Read reasons for situations before embarrassing yourself.

hammerD:


WHO TOLD U THAT OUR INTEREST DIFFER?


IN WAT WAYS HAVE IGBO BEEN A THREAT TO YOUR EXISTENCE TILL DATE?


U LIVE ON IGBO LAND IN ASABA IN HUGE NUMBERS AND HAVE EVEN MARRIED SOME OF OUR FINEST WOMEN, SO WAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?


U TALK ABOUT EFIK AND IBIBIO BUT THOSE PEOPLE DONT KNOW URHOBO, THEY ONLY KNOW IGBO.

Bro drink a glass of water and relax, we can not communicate if you keep on with this kind of attitude.

Yes our interests differ, having different interests doesn't make us enemy, we can find a common ground, but you don't want to hear any of that.

So because we have some Urhobos living in Asaba we shouldn't have our own independent thoughts? Were we not living at our own space before the British came to mess things up? what's wrong with me saying every one should stick to who they feel comfortable with?

hammerD:
U also miss the point. There is no unity or nation called SS. The only thing they all have in common is Igbo. Igbo is the uniting factor. Else dey destroy each other. Many times, Igbo try to broker peace for them. So how can dey be a nation? There nation is Biafra.

Southern minorities (Niger delta) can have a nation of their own, just as some of we the northern minorities (Middlebelt) wish to have ours.
Nobody should be forced on what side to take.
The most important thing is that we all want to leave this unworkable and uprogressive nation called Nigeria.

No minority group wants to be under the control of a majority.

Nowenuse:


Southern minorities (Niger delta) can have a nation of their own, just as some of we the northern minorities (Middlebelt) wish to have ours.
Nobody should be forced on what side to take.
The most important thing is that we all want to leave this unworkable and uprogressive nation called Nigeria.

No minority group wants to be under the control of a majority.

Nobody needs any minority.

Let them work towards and not waiting to be paid to issue statement.

We know the antics.

Efewestern:


There was no way Serb-controlled Yugoslav People's Army could have gone for Croatia and Slovenia, that would mean dragging Germany and others fully into the conflict, let's not forget that Croatia at that time was dealing heavily with Serbs minority who are opposing their freedom.

Well I agree that there are great flaws of secession under separate banners, but it's the best way to go.

Germany that was still recovering from their reunification between the East & west that you expect to start fighting Yugoslav wars?

America was the saving grace if you ask me.

Niger deltans are the most disadvantaged in Nigeria but you people do not make any serious or tangible move towards self determination. Why is this so?
Your leaders only come out to make noise and when Abuja gives them money for their pockets they keep quiet.
Your children will curse you people tomorrow when crude oil loses it's value and is depleted and your land has been left polluted and underdeveloped.

I am a middlebelter and my people are benefiting the most from Abuja being situated in our land. Abuja has developed heavily into Nasarawa state. I was shocked the last time I went to Mararaba in Nasarawa. It felt like I was in Lagos. The hustling and bubbling and commerce was unbelievable. Meanwhile, Warri is becoming a shadow of itself day by day.

Instead of your youths to allign yourself with people who are very serious for self determination in order to pull the FG to it's knees. You claim you have your own Niger delta republic and yet nobody is even serious about the movement. You people just act like a sabotage to Biafra.

Do you guys think Hausa fulanis would be sharing one country with you if they were the owners of the oil?

I hope people like yourself will bring a change to this.

Efewestern:


I don't need to make sense to you because our interests differs. There is no unending war between anybody, it's normal to have communal crisis, it happens everywhere even in East and West.

The beauty of having Ibibio and Efik around is the assurance than no one can suppress anyone, we are doing this for the future.

Hahaha, this is true oo.

Without Akwa-Cross people, a Niger-delta republic can never exist peacefully. Ijaws will just personalize the Niger delta republic.

Even if you guys have one country, you must have a very decentralized govt where every ethnic group has his own region and control it's resources. Otherwise the fight for the center will make it another one Nigeria.

Efewestern:


Bro drink a glass of water and relax, we can not communicate if you keep on with this kind of attitude.

Yes our interests differ, having different interests doesn't make us enemy, we can find a common ground, but you don't want to hear any of that.

So because we have some Urhobos living in Asaba we shouldn't have our own independent thoughts? Were we not living at our own space before the British came to mess things up? what's wrong with me saying every one should stick to who they feel comfortable with?

THERE HAVE BEEN NO TIME IN HISTORY THAT URHOBO HAVE EXISTED WITHOUT THE IGBOS AND IJAW.

IF U KNOW THE HISTORY OF YOUR PEOPLE, THEN U SHOULD KNOW DAT.

THE YORUBA U TALK ABOUT EVEN BEGAN INTERACTION WITH URHOBO BETWEEN 13TH TO 15TH CENTURY, SO THAT IS FAIRLY RECENT.

ALL ALONG, URHOBO HAVE LIVED PEACEFULLY AND SIDE BY SIDE WITH IGBO AND IJAWS AND BINIS.

Y CHANGE THAT NOW?

Nowenuse:


Southern minorities (Niger delta) can have a nation of their own, just as some of we the northern minorities (Middlebelt) wish to have ours.
Nobody should be forced on what side to take.
The most important thing is that we all want to leave this unworkable and uprogressive nation called Nigeria.

No minority group wants to be under the control of a majority.

THERE IS NOTHING LIKE SOUTHERN MINORITIES, THEY ARE BIAFRANS.

THEY ARE OUR KITH AND KINS.

THEY JUST DONT KNOW THEIR HISTORY AND HAVE BOUGHT INTO PROPAGANDA OF HATE.

MelesZenawi:



And this is embarrassing.

Stop embarrassing Igbos with this your comments.


Keyamo redeployment was in order and your reason is the most foolish on Earth totally different from government reason.

Read reasons for situations before embarrassing yourself.

BEHAVE LIKE THE HEAD AND NOT THE TAIL.

hammerD:



BEHAVE LIKE THE HEAD AND NOT THE TAIL.

More like when Adebayor girlfriend said I hate " "Childish men"......Hope you not one?


Time has changed and things has changed. Is only a fool that clings so much to the past when the future holds better things for him/her.


So If you still overwhelmed with 1909, 1933, 1962 then sorry you need help and the worst case is that no one can help you.


So continue recycling old tales while others are looking at the future.


If your life is tied to others, lives of ndigbo has never been tied to anyone and will not till tomorrow.

hammerD:


THERE IS NOTHING LIKE SOUTHERN MINORITIES, THEY ARE BIAFRANS.

THEY ARE OUR KITH AND KINS.

THEY JUST DONT KNOW THEIR HISTORY AND HAVE BOUGHT INTO PROPAGANDA OF HATE.

They Just realized their history and they know their history and they are not biafrans in anyway.


You can't tell someone his history. You may have done that in the past and when they realized who they are.....they will kick you with reckless abandon.


You generate problems for others by foisting your archaic belief on others.

This is 2019 not 1967.


Wake up.

MelesZenawi:


More like when Adebayor girlfriend said I hate " "Childish men"......Hope you not one?


Time has changed and things has changed. Is only a fool that clings so much to the past when the future holds better things for him/her.


So If you still overwhelmed with 1909, 1933, 1962 then sorry you need help and the worst case is that no one can help you.


So continue recycling old tales while others are looking at the future.


If your life is tied to others, lives of ndigbo has never been tied to anyone and will not till tomorrow.

IGBO AS AN ENTITY, SHOULD STOP REBELING AND SUBMIT THEMSELVES TO LEADERSHIP.

THEY SAY, TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, MUCH IS EXPECTED.

IGBO IS THE LARGEST SINGULAR GROUP IN BIAFRA BUT SURROUNDED BY KITH AND KINS.

WE MUST NEVER REFER TO OUR BROTHERS AS MINORITIES.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GETTING IT WRONG.

THE RIGHT WORD IS KITH AND KINS.

WEN THEY MISBEHAVE, IT IS OUR DUTY TO CALL THEM TO ORDER AND NOT JOIN THEM IN MISBEHAVING.

hammerD:



IGBO AS AN ENTITY, SHOULD STOP REBELING AND SUBMIT THEMSELVES TO LEADERSHIP.

THEY SAY, TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, MUCH IS EXPECTED.

IGBO IS THE LARGEST SINGLAR GROUP IN BIAFRA BUT SURROUNDED BY KITH AND KINS.

WE MUST NEVER REFER TO OUR BROTHERS AS MINORITIES.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GETTING IT WRONG.

THE RIGHT WORD IS KITH AND KINS.

WEN THEY MISBEHAVE, IT IS OUR DUTY TO CALL THEM TO ORDER AND NOT JOIN THEM IN MISBEHAVING.

I don't respond to off tangents.


Take a cab or drive down to your kith and kin and call them to order.

case closed.

MelesZenawi:



I don't respond to off tangents.


Take a cab or drive down to your kith and kin and call them to order.

case closed.

There is so much work to be done.

See around...

hammerD:

There is so much work to be done.
See around...

Start doing it

Take a cab or drive down to your kith and kin and call them to order.
case closed.

Nowenuse:

Just seeing this.

Hmm, I wonder why most people forget that Gbagyis exist in Kogi state. Gbagyis in Kogi state are more than 100k.
From Koton Karfe down till you get to Abaji in FCT, many of those towns and villages belong to Gbagyis.

From Koton Karfe down to Abaji, down to Nasarawa-Toto, Egbura & Gbagyi communities lie side by side.

Cc garfield.

They are not even up to 60K and they are under 'others'/
Kogi lg is predominantly Egbura Koto.

Nowenuse:


You like arguing pointlessly.
The pro mixed origin in Ilorin, are they pro arewa or pro yorubaland?

Are you aware that these people rejected and keep rejecting the proposition to create Oya state to merge Kwara and Kogi yorubas back to the southwest?
They said no inch of Ilorin emirate (Kwara central) will be added to that new state. That they are comfortable being northernerns.
It's like you are a learner oo

Most Okun and Igbomina people do not even include Ilorin anymore in the clamour for Oya state.

It’s the Alimi ruling house
Very much of the afonja house wants to join south west don’t mix both two
Even one of Jebba wants to join sw

Those of you dat say Ebira dont sound like video, did u know dat i thought this was an Igbo movie wen i say the title.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbXHpKkkIsQ

If middle belters wants their own country they should go ahead then. They should let south south be. We will figure out something for ourselves. Right now there is no plan for succession and so be it.

We have refused to align with Igbos for anything be it polities or Biafra

We are not biafrans and will never be.
If MB wants to join then go ahead. We will never be part of that marriage.

Contrary to what nowuse said that without the a/ibom and calabar, Ijaws will dominate. That I can beat my chest that it’s a blatant lie.
Ijaw came into the picture only when Jonathan became the president. Before then nobody gave a f4k about them.

Urhobo which I belong to will figure something out when the necessity comes till then please stop this forceful marriage.
It will never work.

I understand your plight being from plateau state and I understand that you guys have been suppressed by the Hausa Muslims for years hence your agitation towards succession. I understand that because I served there.

About succession, rather than running away from your problems because of one particular ethnic group why don’t you fight. We can all join hands and fight them. That should be the common goal. Running away doesn’t solve any problem.
Even if you were granted succession today don’t you think the problem we have in Nigeria today will persist?

Nigeria are not matured enough as a people be it north or south. We lack the fundamentals of maturity; self discipline, disunity( we always find ways to divide ourselves even within ethnic groups), very laid back in most things, non-challant attitude even when our leaders are not performing.

These problems will persists. Let’s work on these then in the future we still want to go our separate ways then we go ahead.

Divine200:
If middle belters wants their own country they should go ahead then. They should let south south be. We will figure out something for ourselves. Right now there is no plan for succession and so be it.

We have refused to align with Igbos for anything be it polities or Biafra

We are not biafrans and will never be.
If MB wants to join then go ahead. We will never be part of that marriage.

Contrary to what nowuse said that without the a/ibom and calabar, Ijaws will dominate. That I can beat my chest that it’s a blatant lie.
Ijaw came into the picture only when Jonathan became the president. Before then nobody gave a f4k about them.

Urhobo which I belong to will figure something out when the necessity comes till then please stop this forceful marriage.
It will never work.

I understand your plight being from plateau state and I understand that you guys have been suppressed by the Hausa Muslims for years hence your agitation towards succession. I understand that because I served there.

About succession, rather than running away from your problems because of one particular ethnic group why don’t you fight. We can all join hands and fight them. That should be the common goal. Running away doesn’t solve any problem.
Even if you were granted succession today don’t you think the problem we have in Nigeria today will persist?

Nigeria are not matured enough as a people be it north or south. We lack the fundamentals of maturity; self discipline, disunity( we always find ways to divide ourselves even within ethnic groups), very laid back in most things, non-challant attitude even when our leaders are not performing.

These problems will persists. Let’s work on these then in the future we still want to go our separate ways then we go ahead.

Your location is geographically West...so I don't know who is dragging you in biafra....or were you get such notion.

Urhobo man in biafra is great anathema...

Which awkward alignment...Imagine trash...


Get your facts rights and stop feeling too important because you nothing near Igbos Abeg..


Nonsense....

Nowenuse:


Also, I am sure these dumb American statisticians must have estimated states like Bauchi & Yobe to be Hausa, otherwise, there is no way Tivs & Ibibios could really be more than Kanuris in the real sense.
Besides, are they counting Efiks, Annangs & Oros as Ibibios? Cos most of these tribes reject and hate to be called Ibibios.

Of course, there is no way Ijaw can be the 4th largest ethnic group in Nigeria when Tivs & Kanuris are there or if Ibibio/Efiks are considered as one tribe.

Lastly, can Igalas really be more than tribes like Nupe, Gbagyi & Urhobo in population? I doubt.

IGALA is more than urhobo (delta) and nupe(niger) from my statistics. I've lived in those states before .

MelesZenawi:



Your location is geographically West...so I don't know who is dragging you in biafra....or were you get such notion.

Urhobo man in biafra is great anathema...

Which awkward alignment...Imagine trash...


Get your facts rights and stop feeling too important because you nothing near Igbos Abeg..


Nonsense....

I wasn’t referring to you
I was referring to the poster who made reference to it.

Shut your mouth
Igbos are nothing
Don’t feel special
Nobody gives a f4k about you guys
Bye

Divine200:

I wasn’t referring to you
I was referring to the poster who made reference to it.

Shut your mouth
Igbos are nothing
Don’t feel special
Nobody gives a f4k about you guys
Bye

Lol....I need laugh... seriously laugh.

How many is population of Urhobo and in terms of development , you aren't even 1% near and you come here and be feeling funky online.... Haaaaa
.. What rubbish..

Who gives a damn hoot about what happens in Urhobo..a single Senatorial district...Haba..Or is it development of man power...which one Abeg?


We have not seen people to take serious na Urhobo..

Abeg make una swerve into slum...

Nothing wey person no go see.... because of nairaland.

MelesZenawi:



Lol....I need laugh... seriously laugh.

How many is population and in terms of development , you aren't even 1% near and you come here and be feeling funky online.... Haaaaa
.. What rubbish..

Who gives a damn hoot about what happens in Urhobo..a single Senatorial district...Haba..Oris development of man power...which one Abeg?


We have not seen people to serious na Urhobo..

Abeg make una swerve into slum...

Nothing wey person no go see.... because of nairaland.

So why do you keeping mentioning me if you are not pained.
Not so important but you keep giving attention

Guy get a life

Nobody cares

Deal with it

Divine200:

So why do you keeping mentioning me if you are not pained.
Not so important but you keep giving attention

Guy get a life

Nobody cares

Deal with it

I need fix you guys where u rightfully belong and that's what am doing.

You need to go and reflect on both your life and your community.


Anybody will now come online to type rubbish feeling high on a population not upto 2.5 million.


Deal with my perfect reply to your rubbish.....


See Important personality but hunger they raze una down...


Abeg.....shift.

MelesZenawi:



I need fix you guys where u rightfully belong and that's what am doing.

You need to go and reflect on both your life and your community.


Anybody will now come online to type rubbish feeling high on a population not upto 2.5 million.


Deal with my perfect reply to your rubbish.....


See Important personality but hunger they raze una down...


Abeg.....shift.

stop lying to yourself to massage your tiny ego... you are just obsessed and sad that with all the imaginary highs you guys place yourself nobody still gives damn.

That must be so pathetic

But we still don’t care

Divine200:

stop lying to yourself to massage your tiny ego... you are just obsessed and sad that with all the imaginary highs you guys place yourself nobody still gives damn.

That must be so pathetic

But we still don’t care

There is nothing to lie because first and foremost una no reach.

You guys are still learning fighting for development.


Nobody give any damn about what happens to una single Senatorial district....


What are we to care militancy, cultism, roaming about forming street, hunger, dilapidated environment....what on Earth for Christ sake..


Abeg carry your wadoo enter ocean, nobody give a damn..


Move we no send una...face your front and crawl back where you came out from.


Pray that people will only pity una condition...


Nonsense.