oyinda.:

well i noticed a tribalistic tone in his post that i didn't like. and i'm sooo sorry if i offended you for pointing it out as I saw it.  lol
am also sorry for not posting according to your rules ---> "Why not just approach posts AS IS?"

tensor777:

^I never expected you of all people to descend to that level. How do you know that the OP had that motive?

Kobojunkie:

Why?

oyinda.:

for example, I don't know too much about Utah and this post has contributed to shaping my ideas about Utah whether I like it or not (and it will remain in my unconscious until i learn more stuff in the future to replace it).  And i'm sure the same goes to most people on here unless they have lots of knowledge about Utah already to be able to distinguish fact from anecdote.

oyinda.:

lol. so do you want me to go back and edit my post now or what?

obviously he didn't come here with a blatant tribalistic agenda.
but the tone of his story was  tribalistic to me and I couldn't help to point it out.
it doesn't matter what his motives are to me. I'm more concerned about people reading it and thinking people from Osun are this. . . while people from Aba are that. lol
sometimes, these sentiments are in our unconscious and we don't mean to say it that way. but the main thing to know is that they may have consequences. people read stuff and form opinions based on what they read etc
maybe i was just too sensitive about it. but then i'm not the only one. many others noticed it too.

igbobuigbo:

All:

Unfortunately, some people with Yoruba-sounding names here have not failed to disappoint me that tribalism is an issue in our country that rares up so, so easily. If Olu is changed to Obi and Osun is changed to Imo, will it make any difference?

Ok, I am here to regale you with what happened with all sorts of Nigerians in Utah. Expect to hear about Obi too.

Meanwhile, read about Prof Mark here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-552774.0.html

leonaidas:

@OP, pls i nid your advice, i'm currently a 2nd yr medical student in Nigeria nd i won d lottery(visa). I want 2 knw how easy/expensive it is 2 study nd work in America(L.A)

Kobojunkie:

How exactly does this post shape your view of Utah, the state? The origin post did not have much to say on the State itself but on some of the characters, including the main, in it.

paris10:

@Ibobuigbo and @kobojunkie, what is wrong with you both? Why don't you leave @oyinda alone and let her express her views? You guys are just not getting her views!

It is not only the responsibility of @poster to be his brothers keeper, its also our mutual responsibilities as Nigerians. I hope you realise that the 'Osun State' guy wasn't just abandoned during his difficult moments. He was abandoned long ago when he bought that car, and he was also abandoned - to murder and mayhem in the streets; to substandard environments; to inadequate care; to a dilapidated rottenness and to a pervasive sense of hopelessness .

This is the deeper shame  of what is happening around us. It doesn't have to be crisis like this to awaken us to the great divide that continues to fester in our midst. The fact that the guy got caught driving without all the necessary documentations doesn't make him lesser a good person. Driving offence is in no way different to any other offence committed, of which most of us are guilty of.

@poster lacks remorse. We don't need to wait for another Katrina before we know that it is our individual responsibility to look out for one another.

And to you @oyinda, keep your critical and great thinking ability to yourself for the sake of this thread, not everyone can analyse the way you just did.

oyinda.:

lol. well, from the post, i got these ideas

1. that vast majority of people who live in Utah are mormons.
2.Mormons will sometimes help you with your school fees and provide you food, help you secure you a job etc if you join the mormon faith
3. pre-marital sex is punished among them
4. life is cheap in Utah
5. the "norms" of mormons include being well dressed and proselytizing
6. church service is compulsory as part of the "norm"
7. Mormons in Utah are now wary of Nigerians or blacks.

yea these are broad statements and there is truth in them.
Op didn't necessarily say them exactly the way I posted them but those are the general ideas I got. and that is how stereotypes are formed when we watch movies, read books, posts on nairaland etc.

Kobojunkie:

What the cud?

oyinda.:

@OP, if Olu hadn't bought the 2nd hand Jeep Cheroke, how would things have been different?
Would you have helped him to pay his school fees after his mom got bosom cancer?

no where in your post did i sense any feeling of concern from you about your "friend"s unfortunate situation. all you cared about is how it affects your relationship with the mormon. and it seem to me that you were wishing for his downfall anyway.

to me, the only difference between you and him is that your mom didn't get bosom cancer IMO. otherwise, desperation would have driven you to do the same things your friend did or worse!!

and like most people on here noticed, there was a tribalistic tone in your post. Olu the spendthrift and womanizer. while you (IgbobuIgbo) are the studious virgin who works his butt off to pay his bills.
Olu from Osun state with his politician mom hobnobbying with Oyinlola. while IgbobuIgbo's parents are hardworking business people from Aba from whom you don't get any money. Can you tell us then how you are paying your school fees?

oyinda.:

Olu from Osun state with his politician mom hobnobbying with Oyinlola. while IgbobuIgbo's parents are hardworking business people from Aba from whom you don't get any money. Can you tell us then how you are paying your school fees?

tensor777:

^Do you now live in England?