TheGoodJoe:


You are just evading the truth. The above article clearly highlights the corrupt decision and lies made by the EPL officials.

The VAR officials knew it was a penalty and clearly denied City it. This is why I like VAR, now we know the agenda is clear.

SmartyPants:


the argument about whether Trent meant it or not is not relevant. At the beginning of this season, new rules were announced that stated intention would no longer be taken into account.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1263332

izzou:


VAR rules in EPL and UEFA are different

And I ask you again, where was Arnold's hand supposed to be? Just tell me where he should have kept it, and I'll agree it's a penalty

descartes400:


As for me, I saw 3 penalty cases in that match. 2 were hand balls while the other was the pushing of sterling within the 18 yard box near the corner line

niaralandtopuser:
this is not about var rules. Hand ball rules, offside rules, goal kick rules and drop kick rules are set and were changed by FIFA before the beginning of this season . It was clear that Arnold hands left his body and made his body bigger

TheGoodJoe:


You are still deviating.

Michael Oliver and the VAR man lied Trent Alexander did not commit a deliberate offence. What do you say about that. That is the point of the thread.

If you feel Bernardo Silva committed a foul or not is not in question. The question is, why did they both lie to something so blatant.

izzou:


I'm not sure you watched the match

Arnold was involved in both

izzou:


And his hand is in its natural position Abi?

I'm done arguing sir. You win

descartes400:


As for me, I saw 3 penalty cases in that match. 2 were hand balls while the other was the pushing of sterling within the 18 yard box near the corner line

TheGoodJoe:


What are you typing?

Did anyone say the ball did not hit Bernardo Silva? Even the interview in the article did not talk about it because the ball deflected off Bernardo Silva to his hand which does not count as handball, like the Rojo's case against Nigeria.

That was not why it was ruled out if you bothered to read the article. It was ruled out because they claimed Trent did not intend to use his hand, which they are lying.

TheGoodJoe:


Trent Arnold's handball led to the goal but the officials let it stand.

kilisi:


Going by your logic, it is not a penalty then since the ball hits Bernardo's hand before hitting Trent's arm.

kilisi:


To put it another way, Bernardo's handball led to Trent handling the ball. The referee played the advantage and Man city players made the school boy error of not playing to the whistle as they stood still expecting the referee to blow instead of attacking the loose ball and that's what led to the goal.

SmartyPants:


I watched portions of the match. I think the article in the OP is referring to one of the incidents....that's the one I saw and I am talking about

Minemrys:

my questi0n is, had silva's hand n0t deflected the ball, would it have gotten to Trent Alexander's hand?

izzou:


Okay, I have heard

Shezkid:


Mane played the ball intentionally to his hands as e saw him stretched out his hand pointing at his player since you came up with that useless idea.......

And where was his hand?

Where was Trent's hand, and where was Sissoko's hand?

Judge without emotions for once. Please

niaralandtopuser:
as a Chelsea fan, I supported Liverpool to win but the ref and VAR officials were shit. You have to be consistent with decision making like it is done in other league and according to the rules. It could happen to anybody. It happened to us against Watford. Even though we won, I was angry with the ref

TheGoodJoe:


The point is the match officials lied.

TheGoodJoe:


Then stop the ball.

Instead the officials said Arnold's act was not deliberate when it was.

TheGoodJoe:


You are still deviating.

Michael Oliver and the VAR man lied Trent Alexander did not commit a deliberate offence. What do you say about that. That is the point of the thread.

If you feel Bernardo Silva committed a foul or not is not in question. The question is, why did they both lie to something so blatant.

lexy2014:


How was Trent's action deliberate?

izzou:


Lol

When Firminho's goal was cancelled against Aston Villa because his armpit(abi armpit hair) was offside, who's agenda was clear then?

I'm not here to argue back and forth with you. Oliver was solely in charge of making the decision, and even if he gave the penalty, we all would live with it

But my point is if he had given that penalty, then we would be seeing about 5 similar cases on every match. Sterling purposely played it on his hand, and there was no other possible place to keep his hands.

Like your article said, his hands had to be somewhere

Minemrys:

the questi0n still is, would trent have handled it if the ball hadn't bounced off of silva? Answer it nah.

izzou:


Lets reason as neutrals

For the first one, the ball hit a City's player hand first, and then a Liverpool's player hand, all in the box. If you were a referee, what foul would you call?

For the second one, Sterling was close to a defender, and deliberately played it on his hand. I quite agree that it could pass as a penalty, but then, if it was given, we would see 5 similar cases in one match[b]. I feel the referee used his discretion and ignored it

So may I hear your views on both? [/b]

Kenmatt:
I don't even need to read it down, all I know is that VAR doesn't work in EPL.

TheGoodJoe:


Look at the pictures of the article and you will see Trent moved his hand to the ball.

TheGoodJoe:


Trent handled the ball deliberately and the officials lied about it.

lexy2014:


Is by looking at a still picture that u decided that Trent's action was deliberate?