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Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 6:55pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
realborn: It is funny that you should ask me not to tell obvious truths about Atiku. It is even ridiculous. As for your claim against Patience, it is an evil lie and you know it. Please tell me why you think it is ok for a Nigerian presidential aspirant to be wanted in the US. I find that position absolutely incredible and ridiculous beyond words. How can you ask to discuss policies, when you are prepared to be led by an international criminal? It boggles the mind! |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 7:01pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
1025: The fact that he is wanted by the FBI does not equate him with bin laden. You need to understand that Bin Laden is a threat to US security and can be shot dead on sighting. There is no need to stretch arguments to crazy lengths. Atiku will be arrested the moment he steps in the US. Arrest warrants have been issued for he and his wife. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by jason12345: 7:10pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
i just laugh when people say atiku is worse than GJ in terms of corruption How did you gauge or measure the level of corruption? is it atiku (a business man) who with obj racked up our foreign reserves and put us in a good position or is it GJ (an opportunist) who plundered the reserves to an all time low, invited criminals to aso rock, or his wife who bought 3 million bags of rice (btw, with which money? the people or her personal wealth?) ?. it is one thing to support GJ because of the idea that he is a progressive (lie, what has he done?), its another to support him based on sentiments. the guy just keeps quiet. how can someone (a product of an agreement) seize the opportunity to become president based not supporting the agreement he benefited from? and nigerians would trust such?. we are not yet serious about changing the country! |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 7:28pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
^ You gauge things by soaking yourself in your culture until you know who you are and how your people tick. You will never have the ability to gauge anything while you have no identity, until you find your identity, you will always end up talking in ignorance. Do you know the name of your village yet? Until you find that fundamental thing out, the joke is on you. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by jason12345: 7:45pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
Beaf: this has nothing to do with where i am from but COMMON SENSE! How does my village relate to the situation of the country? all that matters is that i am a NIGERIAN. i do not need to know how my people, igbos, yoruba or ijaw think. all i need to know is the problem facing my country and Her citizens. i know you LOVE GJ. but you have to face realities. you can see that after i put up my comments on GJ, many people are reasoning from that point of view. you cannot just shut people up because they do not support GJ. that shows how undemocratic you are and for GJ, his mentality. pls dont get me wrong, i don't support Atiku as well. all i want is progress for my people, FOR NIGERIANS!!! |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by jason12345: 7:50pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
UNTIL GJ tells the country how he used up our foreign reserves, he is as corrupt as Atiku. if people still support PDP or GJ based on sentiments or ethnicity, then we as a people are not ready for change. we are just in denial! if we do not condemn this act of opportunism, then we are dishonest people and are not ready for change!! |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 7:59pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
jason12345: Dude, if at your age you don't even know your village, what is it you know? I wonder if you are 12 years old or something. You don't care to know your village, yet you want to talk about Nigeria from abroad? Hilarious! |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by firemelon: 8:08pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
you guys are just getting bitter for nothing,destiny has just used atiku to cancel ibb,making the coast clearer for gej.take it or leave it,it is a good omen that at least it will never be ibb.coming to atiku;thank you turaki for pulling the chestnut[ibb] out of the fire, you may now go home and sin no more, we dont want you,thanks for your efforts. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by jason12345: 8:15pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
Beaf: it is a public forum and no one has an overall knoweldge. in fact, i believe you are the kid because you have never answered a question about GJ without insults. i am in my late 20s. and believe me you cannot throw these insults at me when you see me! it is a fact. why don't you face the matter at hand instead of insulting, that has been your strategy. answer the questions asked by muza, dayo etc. be civilised and mature instead of insulting. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by realborn(m): 9:26pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
Beaf: Beaf, To succeed in your exalted deprecating job as an e-spokesman to GEJ, it is imperative you pay attention to details. My previous post on this subject clearly identified Atiku as a joke (please refer to my last sentence, paragraph 1). His poor antecedents speak volume of his paucities. I absolutely care less what they do with their political lives but not at the expense of the populace. I reiterate once again, you will do your Oga a great deal if you advise him aptly to seek apposite way forward measures to move this country aright. As for Patience Jonathan, I have no comments. Google search may guide you better on this subject. Someday, I believe we will be blessed by the Good Lord with a visionary leader whose cerebral capacity will be divinely tuned to lead us to the promise land. Regards, |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by JohnTogo: 10:18pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
realborn: Anybody wey see truth dey hide am na fool because u no fit use hand cover pregnancy for long.as far as dis we niger delta dey concerned this man no go win our vote. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 10:27pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
realborn: Firstly, you are free to post articles of the kind that appeal to you. I am not under any obligation to post things that please you (as they say, the truth is a sword). The simple matter is that Atiku is a criminal who should not be running, I expect posters to either defend or condemn him not advice that there should be no articles discussing his utterly disgraceful track record. A record that is so bad, he is wanted in the US. I cannot even imagine how any Nigerian can conclude that a potential president of the country might be arrested on a foreign trip. You mentioned interest in a president with the cerebral capacity to take us to the promised land. How do we hope to get there? How do we identify that leader? By shunning discussions on criminality? I just cannot understand where you are coming from. My brother, you need to reconsider. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 10:32pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
jason12345: . . .And you don't know your village? You still have no identity? Here I was thinking you were a pimpled teenager! My friend, you are truly lost! Go and ask your parents where you come from, ask them to point you to your village and teach you some of your traditions and culture. You don't even know who you are! |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Nobody: 10:40pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
To all of you making claims about dame patience jonathan being investigated by efcc, seems u never read d news or just ain't current, ribadu has come out exonerating her and saying he never investigated her https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-515027.0.html. I guess you should guys should read this up . |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by debosky(m): 10:44pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
The claims that Atiku was involved with Jefferson have been disproved in court, so why this rehash of old stories? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/us/06jefferson.html If indeed Atiku was found 'guilty' of money laundering, where are the convictions? Jefferson simply 'name-dropped' Atiku to get more money for himself. For someone claiming to be an 'Esquire' he can't even check his facts? Atiku was never the Comptroller of Customs., he was a Deputy Director. As far as I'm concerned, this is a paid mouth piece of the GEJ organisation, or a joker who can't cross check facts but prefers to peddle rumours. Where is the evidence that Atiku is a 'wanted' man? Is this based on a 'testimony' from the corrupt Jefferson that cannot be proven? |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Blazay(m): 10:53pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
John Togo: Dati na ifu dem county ya vote. Or ifu dem know say you dey alive sef. Vote wey dem don count decide the winner since. You dey for Naira dey make yeye noise. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 11:03pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
debosky: How about this? [size=14pt]US SENATE: Atiku Abubakar, Others Brought ‘Dirty Money’ To US Banks[/size] http://thewillnigeria.com/mobile/business/3619-SENATE-Atiku-Abubakar-Others-Brought-Dirty-Money-Banks.html |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by debosky(m): 11:27pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
So Abubakar Atiku's wife 'reputedly helped' her husband move money? Is that evidence of corruption? Atiku owns numerous businesses, so is the alleged transfer of $40 million now evidence of corruption? That a corrupt businessman demanded bribes allegedly to pay Atiku doesn't mean Atiku requested or was interested in bribes. Like I said, there has been no case brought against Atiku in the US beyond allegations of a corrupt congressman. I'm still waiting for the evidence that Atiku is 'wanted' by the FBI. Besides, the said wife continues to reside in the US, if she was the agent used in laundering money, why has no case been brought against her? These appear to be unproven allegations. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 11:41pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
^ Money laundering is an extremely serious crime in the US. Atiku and Jennifers names wouldn't have been freely mentioned as guilty of laundering in a US Senate report that was circulated Worldwide, if there wasn't conclusive proof. Anti-money laundering is a major part of the Patriot Act that came into being after the September 11 twin tower incident. If Atiku steps into the US, he will be promptly arrested. It was even announced some weeks ago on CNN, that every transaction the Atiku's make Worlwide is being closely tracked by the FBI. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by debosky(m): 11:48pm On Nov 24, 2010 |
Beaf: The US senate's claims was based on Jefferson's testimony, which has been proven to be unreliable. If money laundering is as serious as you say and there was 'conclusive proof', why have no charges been brought against Jennifer or Atiku? Yet Jefferson has been convicted and sentenced. What you label 'conclusive proof' is simply a list of allegations and nothing more - if there was such good proof, why haven't any indictments been made against him?
Thanks for the legislation lesson, but this doesn't indicate any evidence of 'conclusive proof'. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 12:03am On Nov 25, 2010 |
debosky: You failed to see the 2008 dates, which makes the latest accusations very clearly different from the Jefferson matter which occurred in 2005. US Court summons cannot be served on the Atiku's since they have fled America. If they ever set foot within jurisdiction of a US court, you can be sure of what will follow. To the US govt, money laundering is only slightly below terrorism. debosky: That is not the point, and is in fact a deviation from all that has been said so far; which is that Atiku is a wanted man in the US. Conclusive proof will come in a court after he has been arrested and tried. Until then, he is wanted. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by debosky(m): 12:09am On Nov 25, 2010 |
Beaf: You are simply implying there are court summons. . . .do you have any evidence of the alleged summons? Why have no summons been served on Jennifer who lives in the US?
You've provided no proof that he is 'a wanted man' beyond allegations, some of which have been circulating for ages. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 12:13am On Nov 25, 2010 |
debosky: . . .Because Jennifer very hurriedly sold their Potomac mansion and fled the US for Dubai. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Blazay(m): 12:58am On Nov 25, 2010 |
Beaf: We know all this your noise is because OBJ will have to face his nemesis pretty soon. I hope Atiku gets the presidency. I would like to see the father of corruption OBJ put away for good. Get ready to cry. Baba wor wor 70s goes to jail. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Gayigaskia(m): 1:14am On Nov 25, 2010 |
This is a copy of Congressman Jefferson to then Vice President Atiku Abubakar; William Jefferson's Letter To Vice President Atiku Abubakar The controversial letter by William J. Jefferson, a U.S. congressman, found in the U.S. house of Vice President Abubakar Atiku, by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). I wish to bring a project to your attention by which a U.S. company desires to invest over USD $60,000,000 to provide the high speed Internet service to Nigeria over NITEL's copper wire infrastructure. Under the proposal, there would be no costs to NITEL or the Federal Republic of Nigeria. To the contrary, the project proposes to pay substantial amount to NITEL for the use of its copper wire and for the co-location of D-Slam and switches at NITEL facilities of approximately USD $5,000,000 in Year 1; USD $28,000,000 in Year 2; USD $69,000,000 Year 3; USD $103,000,000 in Year 4; and USD $106,000,000 in Year 5 and thereafter. This would add substantially to NITEL's operating income and to the value of NITEL in its efforts to privatize. A small Nigerian Internet Service Provider (ISP), Rosecom.net, is partnering with the US company to bring this high speed Internet service to Nigeria. The speeds provided will be up to one (1) megabit per customer, speeds that will revolutionize business transactions and personal communication in Nigeria. Rosecom presented this project to NITEL and negotiated with its agents for a right to co-locate its D-Slams and other equipment at NITEL locations, and for a lease price for the use of NITEL's lines. NITEL responded in a written quotation to Rosecom dated 29 April 2005, a copy of which I attached offering Rosecom the opportunity to co-locate its equipment with NITEL's at prices ranging from USD $7,500 for one (1) megabit, discounted to USD $3,992 for thirty (30) megabits. (Attachment A). On 11 May 2005, Rosecom accepted NITEL's offer, with two inquiries: Since Rosecom desired to pay for the right to use 150 megabits rising to 1500 over time, were discounts available to it for megabit use purchased beyond 30 megabits listed in "Section 6.2. Volume Discounts" of the Quotation; and was it possible for Rosecom and its partner to enter into a long term deal with NITEL to provide Internet service for a price, but on a non-exclusive basis. (Attachment "B". Having accepted NITEL's offer, Rosecom and its U.S partner began making preparations and incurring obligations to launch their project in Nigeria during July 2005. However, on 3rd June 2005, to the surprise of Rosecom and its U.S. partner, NITEL issued a letter offering Rosecom an entirely new deal from the one offered in its 29 April, 2005 Quotation to Rosecom and making no reference to Rosecom's acceptance of NITEL's earlier offer (Attachment "C). Indeed, the 3 June 2005 letter from NITEL offered Rosecom the right to resell NITEL's Internet service to be supplied through NITEL's own ADSL-based network services. Upon a further search, it would appear that NITEL has decided to acquire its own D-Slams and to establish it own wholesale Internet service, using an ADSL model. The equipment NITEL is acquiring is a Chinese product. The Chinese-produced D-Slam is technically incapable of delivering guaranteed speeds of one (1) megabit over copper wire for the distances required, so that the service to the end users in Nigeria will be very slow and expensive. Additionally, NITEL will have to incur the considerable expense of purchasing the D-Slams whereas the Rosecom project is presented at no costs to NITEL, with Rosecom and its U.S. partners paying all of the costs incurred. From the point of view of U.S. business, it is very important to be able to rely on the acceptance of an offer as a deal if U.S Investment is to be encouraged in Nigeria. Thus it is important that NITEL recognize the acceptance by Rosecom, on behalf of itself and its U.S. partner, and permit them to launch their project in Nigeria as expected. Both Rosecom and its U.S. partner have already incurred considerable expense in preparing for the launch subsequent to receiving NITEL's referenced Quotation. It is important to note, that for NITEL to honor Rosecom's acceptance of its offer presented in its 29 April 2005 Quotation does not mean that it must abandon the use of the Chinese technology that it appears to be purchasing for its D-Slams, nor that NITEL abandon its plan to offer its own ADSL-based services for resale to ISPs. Rosecom and its U.S. partner believe that their product can compete favorably with any ADSL project. Therefore, the U.S. partnership seeks to co-locate its D-Slams at NITEL facilities along with any other D-Slams NITEL may desire to use and pay NITEL may desire to use and pay NITEL the same prices accepted by Rosecom in its 11 May 2005 acceptance of NITEL's offer. It would be a huge step forward on building a stronger reputation for the business climate in Nigeria, bring great benefits to the Nigerian economy, and bring an extraordinary amount of recurring revenue to NITEL, if it would be possible in your wisdom to support the request of the U.S/Nigeria partnership for NITEL to permit its project to be carried out side-by-side with any other ADSL/Internet-over-copper-wire solution that is willing to invest in providing high speed Internet access to the country of Nigeria. I hope you will be able to check into this matter with the Managing Director of NITEL prior to your trip to the U.S. in July 2005. I look forward to having a chance to meet with you then to discuss or to conclude this matter at that time. Thank you and may God continue to bless your service to Nigeria, Africa and the world community. http://www.dawodu.com/atiku1.htm |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 1:32am On Nov 25, 2010 |
Blazay: What has Obj got to do with the matter? It is Atiku that's wanted in the US for money laundering. If you look toward the bottom of this linked document, you would find that the person on whom several attempts were made to serve a summons, was Jennifer "Douglas" Atiku, it surely wasn't Obj: http://www.valawyersweekly.com/vlwblog/files/2009/01/motion-e-mail-service.pdf They chased her all over Abuja, but she had fled to Dubai. Dude, try to make sense sometimes. Atiku is a criminal. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Blazay(m): 5:45am On Nov 25, 2010 |
Beaf: Atiku may be a criminal according to you in the US, but not in Nigeria. Please, go take a nap. OBJ has everything to do with this. Transcorp and all that jazz Atiku can nail him with to the cross of fire. Why don't you ever prosecute your own criminals in Nigeria? Why are you looking for other foreign countries to do it for you? If you want to prosecute Jennifer Atiku do so. Linking her to Abubakar Atiku is a wild goose chase. He has been cleared to contest the elections and his name is NOT on the manifesto of criminality. If you are on GEJ's payroll on Nairaland, he paid you for nothing. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Beaf: 6:22am On Nov 25, 2010 |
^ No, we cannot keep blaming Obj if we have a toothache or cannot explain some strangers behaviour. It just sounds like laziness, or is Obj some sort of god that people have an inordinate fear off? If there are problems with Atiku, lets leave it with him, instead of looking to blame Obj like he is Atiku's parent and Atiku is a kid. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Blazay(m): 7:59am On Nov 25, 2010 |
^ You still do not get it. As long as the likes of OBJ, Anenih and co are still untouched, things remain 'unfixable' in Nigeria. Atiku can end all that. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by fstranger: 8:05am On Nov 25, 2010 |
^^ Haba Oga Brazier, Atiku is not the messiah He is just another crook who is likely to at least get something done, unlike the siddon dey look GEJ |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Blazay(m): 8:05am On Nov 25, 2010 |
babasoty: Level don change. But he had the files and shoved them under his bed like he did Tinubu's and co. |
Re: Money Laundering - Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand Up by Blazay(m): 8:07am On Nov 25, 2010 |
fstranger: I am so relieved we have both arrived at the same conclusion. The light bulb finally flashes ON. I do believe we have crooks in the US and the UK as in all other civilized countries. But they get the job done. Such I see in Atiku Jonathan? Just look at his profile for one. Absolutely nothing to write home about. Than look at his physiognomy for crying out loud. He frankly looks like he has not had a sober moment in decades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodluck_Jonathan Dr. Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan, GCFR, GCON (born 20 November 1957)[1] is a Nigerian politician and currently the President of Nigeria. He was Governor of Bayelsa State from 9 December 2005 to 28 May 2007, and was sworn in as Vice President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria on 29 May 2007. Jonathan is a member of the ruling People's Democratic Party (PDP). On 13 January 2010, a federal court handed him the power to carry out state affairs while President Umaru Yar'Adua received medical treatment in a Saudi Arabian hospital. A motion from the Nigerian Senate on 9 February 2010 confirmed these powers to act as President. On 24 February 2010 Yar'Adua returned to Nigeria, but Jonathan continued as acting president.[2] Upon Yar'Adua's death on 5 May 2010, Jonathan succeeded to the Presidency, taking the oath of office on 6 May 2010. The best he could come up with? A man who got his governorship title by default and his presidentian title by default. What Goodluck! With names like Jonathan Ebele "GOODLUCK", not only wonder, but ponder. This dude is better off dealing with plants and livestock, his true calling. Not people like Nigerians. Nigeria needs a strong hand. Who said Atiku is the messiah? Atiku has 4 wives and 27+ children. He has had a good record controlling his family life as well as his political life. Such a man is what we need in Nigeria. If you can keep your domestic affairs tidy, that says a lot. 27 children. No scandals here and there? All we can say is Atiku is a thief. Which Nigerian politician isn't? |
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