EternalBeing:
We really thank HOLY SPIRIT for the testimonies of what HE has used these threads to reveal to many here. I was shocked at the answers initially given by many when I created a thread titled "What is the Purpose of Man on Earth? What is your Purpose on Earth?" Many answered by saying they were amazed that they've never even given that a thought before that day, so, they didn't really know. But by the end of the thread, we've all learned the Purpose and became better beings.

Human being Created by YAHWEH ALMIGHTY can be compared to robot manufactured by man.
The only major difference is that ALMIGHTY gave humans free will to choose whether to be resurrected to live forever or to permanently die, unlike robots that don't have any free will. The man-robot comparison in this post would help us to better understand the tripartite nature of Man as Spirit, Soul and Body. A Man is essentially a Soul, we shall see below.
To understand the 3 components that makes a man, we compare them to the 3 components that makes a robotic computer.

*The physical Hardware is similar to man's physical body. The probability that the robot or computer would still function well even when the mouse or keyboard is faulty is still high. So, loosing a leg, hand, or eyes still don't prevent a human from discovering and fulfilling his glorious Destiny in accordance to the Will of his CREATOR.

*The Software on which the robot runs is similar to the human Soul. The software is the determinant of how well the robot works. It would determine if the computer would excellently perform the task for which it was manufactured or not. I once had my computer system paralyzed by virus infested software, it was an experience far from being pleasant. Just as hackers infect our computers, Satan have put things in place to infect, hijack or worse still, to permanently kill human Soul. he hates the Truth that Man, who was created from mere clay, has been given the ability to choose to live forever. So, he works tirelessly to deceive and prevent humans from earning that very primary right to Immortality that we were put here to receive. The Soul is a very important part of Man because once hijacked by Satan, he uses the persons body to further hijack, corrupt or destroy other humans, and finally destroy the used human that yielded to be his tools for the sake of fame, power and money. Satan does NOT and can never love any human being. He hates all human being with perfect hatred. As the Bible and Quran confirms, Man was granted the highly exulted position that he coveted, demanded and fought YAHWEH ALMIGHTY the Creator of all for. So, those that go to bow to him for one thing or the other are only being deceived with fake love, so that he can destroy them after using them to destroy other humans.

*The Electricity that powers the robot is very much like the Spirit that YAHWEH ALMIGHTY breathe into Man to give us life. When this leaves, Man dies. This is why when a human dies, the falsely flourishing physical pompous body that some labor all their lives to build and excessively nourish to the point of indirectly eating other human flesh and drinking fellow human blood, begins the process of decaying immediately. YAHWEH ALMIGHTY GOD is essentially a SPIRIT, the source of all other Spirits and the CREATOR of all things. That is why HE is called the omnipresent God. The more of HIS Will you do, the more Life comes into your spirit to build your Soul like a software that has been programmed to replicate itself and grow until your Soul grows into full stature of Christ (Ephesians 4:13) and become undefeatable by the adversary.

Out of these 3, the major one that we humans should be most concerned about is the Soul. Proverbs 4:23 "Guard your heart (seat of soul) with all diligence, for from it proceed the issues of Life" Satan has set so much traps to capture the hearts of men. Be very intentionally selective of the kind of videos you watch, music you listen to, things you read, etc.
New International Version Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.

It quite unfortunate that many have been deceived to concentrate more on developing, nourishing and excessively focusing all their energy on caring for their body at the expense of the development of their eternal Soul. Consequently, the Soul becomes dwarfed while the physical body that shall soon be dead and eaten up by worms gives false appearance of flourishing.

Anyone that puts his trust in a herbalist, pastor, alfa, marabouts, satan or demons, instead of being irreversibly determined to please his CREATOR and receive the awaiting reward of immortality, does not know the great opportunity that his great CREATOR has granted him. If your eyes is opens to your true worth as human being, no amount of money, material wealth fame and glory of the ephemeral World would be able to buy your unjustifiably precious eternal Soul.

Isaiah 2:22 "Put no more trust in man, who has only the breath in his nostrils"
Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus said the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusts in man, and makes flesh his arm"
Accept JESUS into your life today, and HE shall grant your the Holy Spirit that would lead you in walking and doing only the things that makes your eternal Soul to grow into full statue of Christ and become eligible for resurrection into your glorious eternity. Your CREATOR's plan is to make you great in this current Life and still reward you with immortality if you don't allow the trials of this World and temptations of Satan to turn you against your great CREATOR. May we wisely live and overcome to earn immorality in JESUS Name. By focusing on being Holy, you shall control the Power controlling this World, don't let this World control you!

AI007:


I appreciate your post, but your message or should I say theory is a little bit flawed:
you are right, man is composed of spirit soul and body, you have to understand that man is spirit, living in flesh, the spirit is what returned back to the creator. the soul here is what powers the body, it is the most fragile piece of the puzzle, once the soul is killed the body dies, and the spirit leaves, the soul can't be corrupted cause it is not man, its is the fuel that powers the body, man which is the spirit is what have the capacity to be corrupted , even God once said my spirit and man's cannot... (I've forgotten though bit if you are a bible scholar you'll understand what I mean). the devil corrupts the spirit but attacks the soul, the soul is so fragile that if the body is tempered with, it dies, the spirit is kind of immortal that even the devil can not kill it, only God can.
reference to the passages in the Bible that mention soul, spirit and gain understanding

Brandonx:
How can one accept Christ. I was raised in a Christian home but I grew up and stopped going to church. Now it seems like I'm missing something, I ve done things I'm not very proud of. I can't every say my prayers anymore. I really want to have this relationship with God.

Brandonx:
How can one accept Christ. I was raised in a Christian home but I grew up and stopped going to church. Now it seems like I'm missing something, I ve done things I'm not very proud of. I can't every say my prayers anymore. I really want to have this relationship with God.

gradeA:
Thanks for this well detailed and researched comment. Very correct, though man is not just a Spirit.
Man is infact a Spirit, a Soul and a Body at the same time. Your Spirit and your soul has same features of your body. People think the soul is just like an organ or like your heart residing inside your body. If you believe in the trinity, the tripartite form of man is just like a shadow of the Godhead.

gradeA:
Remember we were made in His image.

The Soul is like God the Father - It is the seat of willpower, decision making, longings.

The body is a replica of Jesus Christ. Remember He is the visible image of God. Only your body can be seen. The body also carries out the desires of the soul, just as Jesus Christ said my meat is to do the will of the Father.

Your Spirit is like the Holy Spirit. That is why it is your Spirit man that influences and empowers your body

gradeA:
All in all they are same, but distinct no one is greater or more important than the other.

Please note for emphasis sake, by body i mean the broken body and yielded body, and not just a carnal body.

Ihutomi:
The most important among them all u need to feed the spirit it controls the physical

kushercain:
Man is a spirit he has a soul and lives in a body. Smoking my kush reading Corinthians.

Raaaaaaaah!!

MuttleyLaff:
I believe in trinity and plus beyond trinity

Read here for more details on my position as regards trinity:
The Law Of God And The Law Of Medes And Persians.
https://www.nairaland.com/5624496/law-god-law-medes-persians#85720239

I can swallow this observation and still live after doing just that, lol.

"You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’
If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I."
- John 14:28

I am not trying to come across as ungrateful nor am I trying to kick/pour sand stones into your garri, but with the utmost and great respect to you, I beg to differ that with your comment that "... no one is greater or more important than the other." Of course I agree without demur with you that God, the Father, the Holy Spirit and our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ are distinct and no one is more important than the other, but I shy from agreeing with you that no one is greater than the other, lol.

Fathers, by default will always be greater than sons. Dont get me wrong, I am not saying sons cant do greater things than fathers, but I am advancing that fathers until their last breadth will always be greater than sons. God the Father sent His only begotten Son, in the person of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, so in that respect/context, God the Father is greater than our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is answerable to God the Father.

Remember that our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is the Word, lol, and even Isaiah 55:11 states that "My word, which comes from my mouth, is like the rain and snow. It will not come back to me without results. It will accomplish whatever I want and achieve whatever I send it to do." Nobi Somebody/Someone who sent our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ on an errand to earth ni, hmm, lol? Jesus afterall, is a Messenger/the Angel, isnt He, lol? (check out John 12:49-50)

gradeA:

The soul also dies because it cannot survive without the Spirit

So then, if the Spirit returns to the creator after death, and the body decays, then what happens to the soul?

Brandonx:
How can one accept Christ. I was raised in a Christian home but I grew up and stopped going to church. Now it seems like I'm missing something, I ve done things I'm not very proud of. I can't every say my prayers anymore. I really want to have this relationship with God.

kushercain:


Wrong!

Genesis claims that God created man in his OWN IMAGE to have DOMINION over ALL the earth.
Nothing like equating man to God here. In case you don't know, man is a god meant to Lord over the Earth but because we don't take our rightful place cos of sin nature and many other things.
So don't be mislead okay?



Na wa o. Now who is being ignorant.

gentlegenius:

Actually, God created man in his own image, but that doesn't mean Man is a Spirit just like God is a Spirit. MAN IS A SOUL, HE HAS A SPIRIT AND LIVES IN A BODY. The Spirit was given to man through that breath of life. When something is given to you, then you HAVE it, but you ARE NOT it. Man has a spirit because it was given to him, but Man IS NOT a Spirit.
Having the same image of God means that man was created in the same tripartite nature just like God. God's image is FATHER, SON & HOLY SPIRIT while Man's image is BODY, SOUL & SPIRIT. Since you will be right to address any of these 3 'persons' of Godhead as God, you are also right to address any of these 3 components of the human nature as Man.
On this ground, You are right to call Man a Spirit, it is also right to call Man a soul, and even a body. But if we must choose one of the components that best describes who we are, then it is THE SOUL.
The bible says "The soul that sins shall die". Since man is a soul that commits sins, that's why we die. Remember that Spirit beings don't die. If man is truly a Spirit, WHY DO WE DIE? Death is only meant for the soul, not the Spirit. God is a Spirit, that's why he will never die. Man is a Soul, that's why you will die. You will only be a Spirit after your death, when your body and soul dies and your Spirit returns alive to God to live permanently in heaven or in hell.
I have shown you scriptures that directly support the fact that man is a (living) soul. You haven't shown me any scripture that says Man is a spirit.
I won't argue this matter with you any further, because with all that I explained above, I expect you to also use your COMMON SENSE.

Brandonx:
How can one accept Christ. I was raised in a Christian home but I grew up and stopped going to church. Now it seems like I'm missing something, I ve done things I'm not very proud of. I can't every say my prayers anymore. I really want to have this relationship with God.

gradeA:



So then, if the Spirit returns to the creator after death, and the body decays, then what happens to the soul?

EternalBeing:
We really thank HOLY SPIRIT for the testimonies of what HE has used these threads to reveal to many here. I was shocked at the answers initially given by many when I created a thread titled "What is the Purpose of Man on Earth? What is your Purpose on Earth?" Many answered by saying they were amazed that they've never even given that a thought before that day, so, they didn't really know. But by the end of the thread, we've all learned the Purpose and became better beings.

Human being Created by YAHWEH ALMIGHTY can be compared to robot manufactured by man.
The only major difference is that ALMIGHTY gave humans free will to choose whether to be resurrected to live forever or to permanently die, unlike robots that don't have any free will. The man-robot comparison in this post would help us to better understand the tripartite nature of Man as Spirit, Soul and Body. A Man is essentially a Soul, we shall see below.
To understand the 3 components that makes a man, we compare them to the 3 components that makes a robotic computer.

*The physical Hardware is similar to man's physical body. The probability that the robot or computer would still function well even when the mouse or keyboard is faulty is still high. So, loosing a leg, hand, or eyes still don't prevent a human from discovering and fulfilling his glorious Destiny in accordance to the Will of his CREATOR.

*The Software on which the robot runs is similar to the human Soul. The software is the determinant of how well the robot works. It would determine if the computer would excellently perform the task for which it was manufactured or not. I once had my computer system paralyzed by virus infested software, it was an experience far from being pleasant. Just as hackers infect our computers, Satan have put things in place to infect, hijack or worse still, to permanently kill human Soul. he hates the Truth that Man, who was created from mere clay, has been given the ability to choose to live forever. So, he works tirelessly to deceive and prevent humans from earning that very primary right to Immortality that we were put here to receive. The Soul is a very important part of Man because once hijacked by Satan, he uses the persons body to further hijack, corrupt or destroy other humans, and finally destroy the used human that yielded to be his tools for the sake of fame, power and money. Satan does NOT and can never love any human being. He hates all human being with perfect hatred. As the Bible and Quran confirms, Man was granted the highly exulted position that he coveted, demanded and fought YAHWEH ALMIGHTY the Creator of all for. So, those that go to bow to him for one thing or the other are only being deceived with fake love, so that he can destroy them after using them to destroy other humans.

*The Electricity that powers the robot is very much like the Spirit that YAHWEH ALMIGHTY breathe into Man to give us life. When this leaves, Man dies. This is why when a human dies, the falsely flourishing physical pompous body that some labor all their lives to build and excessively nourish to the point of indirectly eating other human flesh and drinking fellow human blood, begins the process of decaying immediately. YAHWEH ALMIGHTY GOD is essentially a SPIRIT, the source of all other Spirits and the CREATOR of all things. That is why HE is called the omnipresent God. The more of HIS Will you do, the more Life comes into your spirit to build your Soul like a software that has been programmed to replicate itself and grow until your Soul grows into full stature of Christ (Ephesians 4:13) and become undefeatable by the adversary.

Out of these 3, the major one that we humans should be most concerned about is the Soul. Proverbs 4:23 "Guard your heart (seat of soul) with all diligence, for from it proceed the issues of Life" Satan has set so much traps to capture the hearts of men. Be very intentionally selective of the kind of videos you watch, music you listen to, things you read, etc.
New International Version Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.

It quite unfortunate that many have been deceived to concentrate more on developing, nourishing and excessively focusing all their energy on caring for their body at the expense of the development of their eternal Soul. Consequently, the Soul becomes dwarfed while the physical body that shall soon be dead and eaten up by worms gives false appearance of flourishing.

Anyone that puts his trust in a herbalist, pastor, alfa, marabouts, satan or demons, instead of being irreversibly determined to please his CREATOR and receive the awaiting reward of immortality, does not know the great opportunity that his great CREATOR has granted him. If your eyes is opens to your true worth as human being, no amount of money, material wealth fame and glory of the ephemeral World would be able to buy your unjustifiably precious eternal Soul.

Isaiah 2:22 "Put no more trust in man, who has only the breath in his nostrils"
Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus said the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusts in man, and makes flesh his arm"
Accept JESUS into your life today, and HE shall grant your the Holy Spirit that would lead you in walking and doing only the things that makes your eternal Soul to grow into full statue of Christ and become eligible for resurrection into your glorious eternity. Your CREATOR's plan is to make you great in this current Life and still reward you with immortality if you don't allow the trials of this World and temptations of Satan to turn you against your great CREATOR. May we wisely live and overcome to earn immorality in JESUS Name. By focusing on being Holy, you shall control the Power controlling this World, don't let this World control you!

gradeA:
Bro I must admit I really appreciate the time, effort, and thouroughness in your posts. They are really enlightening, and I must confess to learning a few things each time I read your posts, however I beg to respectfully differ on some views;

gradeA:
My Lord Jesus Christ is not just a messenger/Angel that was sent on an errand by the father.

gradeA:
I would make a controversial comment now; Jesus Christ could comfortably have refused to come die for us, and there would be no consequences for Him. Just that the world would never have been saved, and perhaps the Father would find another strategy. An angel/ordinary messenger does not have such luxury - check out lucifer.

gradeA:
Remember in revelations, the question was 'who is worthy to take the book and loose the seals? The Father asked; who do we send? Jesus simply offered himself as a lamb to be slain

gradeA:
The Godhead is so much interwoven in love, unity, sacrifice and humility that each Godhead always wants to pass the honour to another. It is because they are all the same; Phil 2 vs 6-8 (paraphrasing; Jesus thought it not robbery to be equal with God the Father, but chose to make Himself of no reputation and come in the likeness of man, and submit to death, even the death of the cross)

gradeA:
I tell you please each Godhead wants to give recognition to the other because they are one and same. The bible explains that God (the Father) is very jealous and would never share His worship with another, but this same God says in phil 2 vs 9 &10 that everything both in heaven on earth and beaneath the earth should bow and worship Jesus. This way I would not even be jealous but instead glorified. That shows it is same God.

gradeA:
This same Jesus whom God pass the honour to, remember when He was on earth said I have come to glorify my Father.

gradeA:
The Holy Spirit whom is now with us in His own dispensation still does not come to draw accolades to Himself, but instead testifies and witnesses Jesus to us.
The Father then turns around and says grieve not my Spirit, and any sin committed against the Father and even the son would be forgiven, but that against the Holy Ghost would never.

Notice the interplay of love, unity and most especially humility here.

My point in all of this is that Jesus chose willingly because of the humility and love to be that messenger and carry on the errand, and not because it was super imposed and forced on him. This does not make Him in anyway lesser.

emddi:
Man is a spirit(being) who has a body and soul,the soul only dies if you lived your earthly life gratifying the flesh.It is either you are living to pleasure your flesh(body) or you living to pleasure your soul(heart),your inner feelings devoid of sensual pleasure.When the bible tells us to live in the spirit,it implies living to fulfill or pleasure the soul(the part that has a feeling but cannot be seen)
Fulfillment is to the soul what dissatisfaction is to the flesh(can't get enough of money,sex,drugs etc)

gentlegenius:

I am still struggling to understand what you are saying here.
Anyway, ENOUGH OF THE ARGUMENT!
You are free to believe whatever you choose, but allow me to also retain my own believe.
Goodbye!

EternalBeing:
We really thank HOLY SPIRIT for the testimonies of what HE has used these threads to reveal to many here. I was shocked at the answers initially given by many when I created a thread titled "What is the Purpose of Man on Earth? What is your Purpose on Earth?" Many answered by saying they were amazed that they've never even given that a thought before that day, so, they didn't really know. But by the end of the thread, we've all learned the Purpose and became better beings.

Human being Created by YAHWEH ALMIGHTY can be compared to robot manufactured by man.
The only major difference is that ALMIGHTY gave humans free will to choose whether to be resurrected to live forever or to permanently die, unlike robots that don't have any free will. The man-robot comparison in this post would help us to better understand the tripartite nature of Man as Spirit, Soul and Body. A Man is essentially a Soul, we shall see below.
To understand the 3 components that makes a man, we compare them to the 3 components that makes a robotic computer.

*The physical Hardware is similar to man's physical body. The probability that the robot or computer would still function well even when the mouse or keyboard is faulty is still high. So, loosing a leg, hand, or eyes still don't prevent a human from discovering and fulfilling his glorious Destiny in accordance to the Will of his CREATOR.

*The Software on which the robot runs is similar to the human Soul. The software is the determinant of how well the robot works. It would determine if the computer would excellently perform the task for which it was manufactured or not. I once had my computer system paralyzed by virus infested software, it was an experience far from being pleasant. Just as hackers infect our computers, Satan have put things in place to infect, hijack or worse still, to permanently kill human Soul. he hates the Truth that Man, who was created from mere clay, has been given the ability to choose to live forever. So, he works tirelessly to deceive and prevent humans from earning that very primary right to Immortality that we were put here to receive. The Soul is a very important part of Man because once hijacked by Satan, he uses the persons body to further hijack, corrupt or destroy other humans, and finally destroy the used human that yielded to be his tools for the sake of fame, power and money. Satan does NOT and can never love any human being. He hates all human being with perfect hatred. As the Bible and Quran confirms, Man was granted the highly exulted position that he coveted, demanded and fought YAHWEH ALMIGHTY the Creator of all for. So, those that go to bow to him for one thing or the other are only being deceived with fake love, so that he can destroy them after using them to destroy other humans.

*The Electricity that powers the robot is very much like the Spirit that YAHWEH ALMIGHTY breathe into Man to give us life. When this leaves, Man dies. This is why when a human dies, the falsely flourishing physical pompous body that some labor all their lives to build and excessively nourish to the point of indirectly eating other human flesh and drinking fellow human blood, begins the process of decaying immediately. YAHWEH ALMIGHTY GOD is essentially a SPIRIT, the source of all other Spirits and the CREATOR of all things. That is why HE is called the omnipresent God. The more of HIS Will you do, the more Life comes into your spirit to build your Soul like a software that has been programmed to replicate itself and grow until your Soul grows into full stature of Christ (Ephesians 4:13) and become undefeatable by the adversary.

Out of these 3, the major one that we humans should be most concerned about is the Soul. Proverbs 4:23 "Guard your heart (seat of soul) with all diligence, for from it proceed the issues of Life" Satan has set so much traps to capture the hearts of men. Be very intentionally selective of the kind of videos you watch, music you listen to, things you read, etc.
New International Version Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.

It quite unfortunate that many have been deceived to concentrate more on developing, nourishing and excessively focusing all their energy on caring for their body at the expense of the development of their eternal Soul. Consequently, the Soul becomes dwarfed while the physical body that shall soon be dead and eaten up by worms gives false appearance of flourishing.

Anyone that puts his trust in a herbalist, pastor, alfa, marabouts, satan or demons, instead of being irreversibly determined to please his CREATOR and receive the awaiting reward of immortality, does not know the great opportunity that his great CREATOR has granted him. If your eyes is opens to your true worth as human being, no amount of money, material wealth fame and glory of the ephemeral World would be able to buy your unjustifiably precious eternal Soul.

Isaiah 2:22 "Put no more trust in man, who has only the breath in his nostrils"
Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus said the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusts in man, and makes flesh his arm"
Accept JESUS into your life today, and HE shall grant your the Holy Spirit that would lead you in walking and doing only the things that makes your eternal Soul to grow into full statue of Christ and become eligible for resurrection into your glorious eternity. Your CREATOR's plan is to make you great in this current Life and still reward you with immortality if you don't allow the trials of this World and temptations of Satan to turn you against your great CREATOR. May we wisely live and overcome to earn immorality in JESUS Name. By focusing on being Holy, you shall control the Power controlling this World, don't let this World control you!

Brandonx:
How can one accept Christ. I was raised in a Christian home but I grew up and stopped going to church. Now it seems like I'm missing something, I ve done things I'm not very proud of. I can't every say my prayers anymore. I really want to have this relationship with God.

MuttleyLaff:
I believe in trinity and plus beyond trinity

Read here for more details on my position as regards trinity:
The Law Of God And The Law Of Medes And Persians.
https://www.nairaland.com/5624496/law-god-law-medes-persians#85720239

I can swallow this observation and still live after doing just that, lol.

"You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’
If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I."
- John 14:28

I am not trying to come across as ungrateful nor am I trying to kick/pour sand stones into your garri, but with the utmost and great respect to you, I beg to differ with your comment that "... no one is greater or more important than the other." Of course I agree without demur with you that God, the Father, the Holy Spirit and our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ are distinct and no one is more important than the other, but I shy from agreeing with you that no one is greater than the other, lol.

Fathers, by default will always be greater than sons. Dont get me wrong, I am not saying sons cant do greater things than fathers, but I am advancing that fathers until their last breath will always be greater than sons. God the Father sent His only begotten Son, in the person of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, so in that respect/context, God the Father is greater than our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is answerable to God the Father.

Remember that our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is the Word, lol, and even Isaiah 55:11 states that "My word, which comes from my mouth, is like the rain and snow. It will not come back to me without results. It will accomplish whatever I want and achieve whatever I send it to do." Nobi Somebody/Someone who sent our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ on an errand to earth ni, hmm, lol? Jesus afterall, is a Messenger/the Angel, isnt He, lol? (check out John 12:49-50)

Pacesetter123:
Sharaaap, don't you know that today is Sunday?

mrZENographer:
There's only one thing I figured I disagree with here.

Your Bible version recommendation which is possibly adulterated.


Example compare it to KJV reading this scripture verse "1 John 5:7"

maynia:
It's so sad, the church never told you about the Nicene creed?
The arian controversy?
The trinity was just someone's Idea.lol