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Are You 'born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! by herlecks(m): 9:56pm On Dec 18, 2019
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Re: Are You 'born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! by herlecks(m): 2:58pm On Dec 21, 2019
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Re: Are You 'born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! by Kobojunkie: 3:14am On Apr 20, 2023
herlecks:
■ Are you 'Born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! Man is both spirit and soul! Inseparable! Contrary to wrong teachings about man that he is spirit. No. Man is spirit AND soul. His spirit is his life principle while his soul is the seat of his personality. What part of man receives life at conversion? The spirit!
■ What about the soul? It must stop sinning, save itself willingly from defilement or it still perish. Being born again is a process that begins from the spirit and ends in the soul. Sadly, most of our churches preaches half truth, they zealously emphasise the reception life while they ignore the most important aspect of it all, man's soul! This knowledge that man is both soul and spirit subjects most of our teachings to proper scrutiny. We had actually thought 'man is spirit', which makes salvation instantaneous at conversion, a grievously fatal error. Man's spirit at conversion is regenerated or enlivened, but his soul must be born again. The purpose of regeneration is to transform the soul that it may also be full of the life or character of Christ. Aren't we saved by grace (life received into the spirit) through faith (outworking of that life in man's soul)? We see that if both aren't evident, a man is not saved. The life our spirit had received must transform our soul, the soul must repent, it must receive life! The spirit is begotten, the soul is born of God or is transformed into God's image. It now reflects or mirrors God's beauty. Life is received into the spirit, that life must penetrate the soul, there must be an imprint of Christ's life upon the soul, this is only achieved through submission to the Holy Ghost. This is the end of our faith, the salvation of our souls, the entrance of life into the soul, there must be a renting between the soul and the spirit, life must penetrate the soul and transform the man (1 Peter 1:9). This is why Jesus says if a man is not born of 'water' and of 'spirit' he cannot enter the kingdom, that is, the Spirit must actively use the water (Word of God) to guide us until our self is lost in God and we are completely dominated by Him. This is deeper than just saying some sinner prayer. The man who is born again is one who is transformed into the image of Christ, he is sanctified, he has grown from being a child of God to being a Son of God. This is spiritual maturity, where he walks after the Spirit and is able to discern every move and monitions of the Spirit. Death is the only path to life, this man lives through death. Who is born again? Are you? John 3:5; Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
1. Most everything you claim here directly contradicts Jesus Christ's very teaching found in John 3 vs 1 - 21 regarding what it means to be born-again. So, how do you resolve these many anti-Christ ideas with your many mentions of the name of God and Jesus Christ? undecided
Re: Are You 'born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! by paxonel(m): 6:54am On Apr 20, 2023
herlecks:
Are you 'Born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means!

Man is both spirit and soul! Inseparable! Contrary to wrong teachings about man that he is spirit. No. Man is spirit AND soul. His spirit is his life principle while his soul is the seat of his personality. What part of man receives life at conversion? The spirit! What about the soul? It must stop sinning, save itself willingly from defilement or it still perish. Being born again is a process that begins from the spirit and ends in the soul. Sadly, most of our churches preaches half truth, they zealously emphasise the reception life while they ignore the most important aspect of it all, man's soul! This knowledge that man is both soul and spirit subjects most of our teachings to proper scrutiny. We had actually thought 'man is spirit', which makes salvation instantaneous at conversion, a grievously fatal error. Man's spirit at conversion is regenerated or enlivened, but his soul must be born again. The purpose of regeneration is to transform the soul that it may also be full of the life or character of Christ. Aren't we saved by grace (life received into the spirit) through faith (outworking of that life in man's soul)? We see that if both aren't evident, a man is not saved. The life our spirit had received must transform our soul, the soul must repent, it must receive life! The spirit is begotten, the soul is born of God or is transformed into God's image. It now reflects or mirrors God's beauty. Life is received into the spirit, that life must penetrate the soul, there must be an imprint of Christ's life upon the soul, this is only achieved through submission to the Holy Ghost. This is the end of our faith, the salvation of our souls, the entrance of life into the soul, there must be a renting between the soul and the spirit, life must penetrate the soul and transform the man (1 Peter 1:9). This is why Jesus says if a man is not born of 'water' and of 'spirit' he cannot enter the kingdom, that is, the Spirit must actively use the water (Word of God) to guide us until our self is lost in God and we are completely dominated by Him. This is deeper than just saying some sinner prayer. The man who is born again is one who is transformed into the image of Christ, he is sanctified, he has grown from being a child of God to being a Son of God. This is spiritual maturity, where he walks after the Spirit and is able to discern every move and monitions of the Spirit. Death is the only path to life, this man lives through death. Who is born again? Are you? John 3:5; Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Op, you don't know the meaning of born again either. There are basic truths to consider before you can understand what Jesus meant by born again to Nicodemus :

1. John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

At this time Jesus was talking to Nicodemus, there was nothing like the kingdom of God on earth(no Christianity at that time). So, before one could see the kingdom of God or become a Christian, he must be born again first (if it will take you to crack your brain and think to understand this, please think)

2. This further implies that except the disciples followed Christ to the point where he will be crucified and resurrected, they will never see the kingdom of God.

So, being born again was simply the event of the disciples following Christ which was prophesied by Daniel in the past. These disciples were the born again, they never saw Christianity until Jesus was crucified.

Today, we have the privilege to be in Christianity, therefore we are greater, far better than them.

Jesus says the least person in the kingdom is greater than John the Baptist.
Remember, John the Baptist lived in that era of the disciples who followed Christ, but we are not in that era anymore
Re: Are You 'born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! by Kobojunkie: 5:00am On Apr 21, 2023
herlecks:
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Hope you have has a change of heart abeg! undecided
Re: Are You 'born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! by Kobojunkie: 7:31pm On Apr 21, 2023
Man was born flesh and blood from his mother's womb. Jesus Christ told you this in His Gospel, affirming what God said in the beginning when He pointed out that man was made from the clay of this earth, not spirit - Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7
5 Jesus answered, “Believe me when I say that everyone must be born from water and the Spirit. Anyone who is not born from water and the Spirit cannot enter God’s kingdom.
6 The only life people get from their human parents is physical. But the new life that the Spirit gives a person is spiritual.
7 Don’t be surprised that I told you, ‘You must be born again.’
8 The wind blows wherever it wants to. You hear it, but you don’t know where it is coming from or where it is going. It is the same with everyone who is born from the Spirit. - John 3 vs 5 - 8
You cannot ignore the detail given by Jesus Christ highlighted in blue above. To be born of the Spirit of the Eternal life of God is to be possessed by a power that wields control over your very being. If you do not have Him living 24/7 inside of you, you are not born-again. undecided
Re: Are You 'born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! by Kobojunkie: 4:06am On Apr 23, 2023
By the way, @herlecks, do you believe yourself to be born again? How certain are you that you have in fact been born again, according to the Truth of Jesus Christ, and not the mental delusions of religion?

See https://www.nairaland.com/7110397/gospel-minddump/3#120563417

If you are not currently possessed by the Spirit of the Eternal Life, the very same Spirit of Life that lives inside of Jesus Christ, I am afraid you are not born again and are simply playing Christian according to the script provided to you by your pastors and mogs whom you think are anointed by God. And no, the Spirit of Eternal Life is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit aka the Spirit of Truth, as Jesus Christ informed you in His Gospel lives only in those who have attained holiness - John 8 vs 31 - 44. So, if you cannot confirm that you have been born of the Spirit of Eternal Life, you are not born of Spirit and hence not born again. undecided
Re: Are You 'born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! by Kobojunkie: 4:08pm On Apr 25, 2023
herlecks:
■ Prayer is the act of communicating with God with the hope that he hears us and will respond to our communication with him. God knows everything we want and need, but still wants us to ask, that he may give to us according to his good pleasure. Our prayer must come from the depth our being, our spirit. When our spirit prays, there is a flow the mind cannot comprehend but simply submits to. Prayer is a two-way communication, there shoud be an expectation of hearing from God on the side of the human whenever he humbles himself to pray to God. Prayer should be offered to our Father in heavem, not to heaven or angels or earth or anything created, but to the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ. Prayer should be offered in Jesus' name, because no man goes to the Father except by Christ Jesus. Prayer should be guided by the Holy Spirit, we should listen or wait to be guided by the Holy Spirit before we open our mouth to speak. He that ask recieves, we must always believe that God gives before approaching God. When we ask according to his will, he does what we ask. How do we ask according to God's will? God wills that we serve others with whatever we have, let our requests be based on our desires to help or spend on others. When we pray, our requests should always be specific, hitting the right spot, making our direct request known to the Lord. Let's be specific with the Lord.
■ The Holy Spirit brings the word of God through the scripture to us as we pray, let us pray these words as revealed, not adding to or taking from it. It is easier to start prayers by giving thanks to God as our Lord taught us in the Lord's prayer. Above all, God's will for our lives is that we prosper and that our souls prosper. Let us pray that his will be done in our lives. Amen.
1. God's rule regarding prayer is quite simple if you really believe what God says. And it is that He does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the pleas/petitions/requests of the unrighteous are tainted/made filthy by his sins and rendered an abomination to God as a result. God only answers the prayers of a righteous man and all of his prayers at that. So, it does not matter how the prayer is said — will, motive, prayer position, etc., mean absolutely nothing when it comes to prayer. All that matters is whether a man is righteous or unrighteous. So long as the unrighteousness status of a man is not resolved, God will not answer such a man. It is to this end that Jesus Christ urged His followers to seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness), and God's righteousness, in order that all things — the benefits and blessings of the Kingdom of God(answers to prayers inclusive)— shall be added onto each. And the only way to become righteous is through the living of one's life in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23 - John 15 vs 7 - 11. There is no other way! undecided

2. The Holy Spirit aka God's Spirit of Truth lives only inside those who are holy, and not in the unrighteous who are tainted with sin — He does not have dealings with the unrighteous. So, be certain of the origin of the voice you claim to hear. undecided
Re: Are You 'born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! by Kobojunkie: 4:33pm On Apr 26, 2023
herlecks:
■ Is there anyone here or has a friend, family battling with demonic oppression, obstacles, witchcraft attacks, evil covenants, addictions, bad dreams and sicknesses? All you need to do is share - Your picture - Your name - The nature of the attack Let us join you in prayer. Don't let the devil hold you back. Believe. You will have a testimony, in Jesus' name. Amen.
1. Why do you need a picture and name and information? Are you running a hospital or something that you need to register patients in or what? undecided
Re: Are You 'born Again'? Yes? You Don't Know What That Means! by Kobojunkie: 4:06pm On Apr 27, 2023
HRHQueenPhil:
pray for me that all forms of carnality will die in my life and I will enter into favor this month. Also let GOD show me what to do to grow my bible study house fellowship
No amount of praying can rid you of all you state there since it is all up to you to choose to discipline yourself and acquire self-control over your own mind and being or not. By the way, God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; their every request/plea/petition are tainted by their sins(unholiness) and rendered an abomination to God as a result. undecided

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