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Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by Hairyrapunzel: 12:56am On Dec 29, 2019 |
thinkmoney: It's you who needs God's help. When Catholics use deductive reasoning you call them false religion but you say your religion is a true religion when they use deductive reasoning. Hypocrites |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by Hairyrapunzel: 1:01am On Dec 29, 2019 |
Maximus69: But jehovah didn't ever condemn people who celebrated jesus christ when he was born nor was it ever written in his word that he condemned celebrating the birth of jesus . Watchtower leaders said so. Or else you are saying your leaders are now jehovah. You can't even provide proof that jehovah said such. |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by TheArchangel(f): 3:22am On Dec 29, 2019 |
What a laughable thread!!!!! Like the tower of Babel. Arguing over inconsequentials. Speaking for their God's and making their God a laughing stock. |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by Nobody: 3:46am On Dec 29, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel: JEHOVAH have spoken THROUGH THE MOUTH OF HIS WITNESSES AND HIS ACTION but you people are BLIND and DEAF spiritually! ©Jehovah's Witnesses have been preaching and teaching throughout the earth regarding customs and traditions that irritates God. ©The month of December is peculiar to all sort of injurious things and disaster. What else do you expect God to do if you people ignore his TRUE servants and other vivid signs around you? ![]() |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by cerpvad(m): 6:14am On Dec 29, 2019 |
Thank you Hairyrapunzel: |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by boiz2men(m): 8:44am On Dec 29, 2019 |
khia: This theory is not a lie? |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by Hairyrapunzel: 9:04am On Dec 29, 2019 |
Maximus69: They speak on customs that irritate God when it's not even written anywhere that it irritates God. Lol God has never said those customs irritate him whereas you guys have already listed the customs. Lol How God in spirit form talked to your leaders from 1914 I don't know. |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by mgbadadike: 8:57pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Maximus69: Thank God you agreed with me that celebrating Jesus Christ's birth was not written anywhere in the Bible as a sin. Your only problem is that it was not instructed anywhere in the Bible to celebrate Jesus Christ's birth. Fine. Now, you said birthday celebration is a pagans custom and tradition. Bro, we're not celebrating any pagan or whatever. We're celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, God who took a human nature and laid aside His heavenly glory to live among us, who came and die for the sins of the world; The Bible says. 'God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the ministry of reconciliation . . . he made him sin for us that we may be made the righteousness of God in him' (2 Corinthians 5:19, 21). Jesus Christ came into the world to become humanity's Savior. Without His coming humanity would not have a Savior. Bro celebrating Jesus Christ's coming into the world to save us is not a PAGANISM. We're celebrating Jesus Christ's coming into the world. It has nothing to do with pagan, and It worth celebrating every seconds of our lives. You don't understand what it takes for someone to leave his comfort zone and go to a place where he will suffer, and die like a criminal just to save another. Where can you find such love? Even our so called ministers of God and Pastors cannot do such for us. Finally, Be happy that Jesus Christ came into the world to save us. Celebrate Him Bro, it's not a sin. Without His coming, we wouldn't have been saved. I'm sorry that this will be my last reply. Merry Christmas! |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by Empiree: 9:12pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by blueAgent(m): 1:38am On Dec 31, 2019 |
Pistotita Thanks for your response and compliments Am delighted that you are interested in knowing the truth. First on the issue of Hell. God in his power, authority and omnipotence has explicitly declared what will be the fate of the righteous and the wicked, it is our duty to accept it. On the issue of Hell been abstract, I find it amazing that some people share this thoughts or view. but it is totally wrong because God has given us sufficient evidence, revelation and clues to know that Hell will actually be a place of physical burning and torment of the wicked and not just and Idea, thought or feeling. Here are some verses to ponder on with regards to the matter. Remember that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by physical fire and we are told that there destruction is an example of what will befall the wicked. Matthew 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrhah in the day of judgment, than for that city. 2 Peter 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrhah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; Luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2 Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? This is not abstract. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. God's word is not abstract Jesus said his word is life and spirit,God's word already carry life,power and authority it does not need more revelation for it to come to life. what it needs is for the believer to have faith and to exercise the word of God over any circumstance. John 6:63 It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. On the issue of the sabbath day you will agree with me that there is no clue or divine direction or authority establishing Sunday as the day of worship instead of the sabbath day instituted by God. The Catholic church has confessed that they were the ones who changed the day of worship. You will also agree with me that neither Jesus , or his disciples or Mary his mother ever kept Sunday as the day of worship even after the death and resurrection of Jesus. Here are some links that can help you understand the origin and truth about Sunday worship. www.sabbath-truths.com/ www.end-times-prophecy.org/the-sabbath-day-bible.html https://www.sabbathtruth.com/free-resources/article-library/id/916/catholic-church-admits-they-made-the-change Many people are quick to blame Christianity for the under development of Nigeria and Africa but the truth is Christianity has done more good than harm(If there is any). Even if you take away Christianity from Nigeria and Africa we will still not have electricity and good running water. You can do your research on African nations who are majority Muslims or traditional religious people e.g is Somalia and Haiti. The Existence of Hell fire does not depend on weather we believe it or not, like I said before. God has given us much evidence and clue for us to learn and choose so we are without excuse. Many people never believed that HIV was real but that did not stop them from contacting and dying from the disease. We cannot claim that Hell does not exist based on we do not know its duration. I think God does not owe us any answer explanation with regards to that. I don't subscribe to that idea that people need to be shouted or cursed with Hell fire in order for them to be saved. I think thats were pastors get it wrong, although there job is to warn and try to persuade people to turn to God, the final decision is that of the individual to make. Adventist is not a sect or cult as most ignorant people claim. The truth which is the word of God is there for everyone to see and Adventist Church although not perfect , they are in line with God's word and purpose. I will take time to write more articles with regards to your questions but in the mean time you can go through my blog and look for articles that answer some of your questions. |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by blueAgent(m): 1:55am On Dec 31, 2019 |
Pistotita: Pistotita I forgot to add, on the issue of Christmas, the Bible did not record the exact day Jesus was born neither did the Bible tell us to celebrate it. The truth is that Christmas has pagan origins. but my personal view is that the Churches should inform their congregations about the true origin of Christmas celebration. It should be up to the members or individuals to decide if they would honour the birth of Jesus on 25th or not. Just like apostle Paul urged Christians to do. Romans 14:5. One man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. I don't think God will cast people to Hell for celebrating Jesus on the 25th of December. Ellen G white one of the pioneer's of Adventist Church, she advised members to reflect on the importance of the celebration which is Christ rather than to focus on the day of birth she also asked members to use that period to show love and gratitude to one another and to God |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by Nobody: 3:42am On Dec 31, 2019 |
blueAgent: Nice one bro. I share same concept too. There is a reason we have brains. Celebrating Christmas, Easter, New Year, Birthday, etc, or not celebrating them has nothing to do with the salvation of the soul. So,I do not bother myself with these issues. Once you realise that it is the soul we are talking about, you begin to understand it more. Jesus himself has told the truth, spirit is spirit, physical is physical. Mediation is the Key. If I start with this subject, we will not finish. If anyone unerstands this topic, the fellow will not get it wrong. Canal people are doctrine people. Just exactly like the pharisees and sudacees. When you know the power of God, and you can break through to the abstract world, you just laugh at people who say they will die in one particular denomination. The power in connection to the anstract world is simple but extremely powerful. And can be done in various ways. I think i will pick this sibject up soon. The best platform is via Holy Spirit. I have been checkeding many media and I know that via Holy Spirit is very safe and secured. You will land into the abstract world safely. Then you realise that the real world is actually the abstract world, and not the physical . But when one is weak spiritually, doctrine fills the person's heart. The fellow is not only weak, but dead. You can never be sensitive spiritually and sleep with opposite sex, not to talk of same sex anyhow. Even with ones spouse legally married to. How does one explain these issues? But spiritually dead people just take the words of their spiritual leaders like zombies. For the past 5 months, I have changed how i give offering. I used to use my master card in the church and God rewarded me. The concept of giving is powerful. Like I said only the spiritual sensitive ones can comprehend it. It is meaningless to the canal mind. And one should never argue along the line. I was just entering the church several months ago when I saw a man handed N500 cash to an elderly usher. And that was how my spirit arrested me. Sir, I changed my style. Instead of using my card I turned to cash. N100 inside the offerring bowl and much more for elderly people in the church. I put cash in envelop(es) and hand it/them over to aged people. Guess what? I started seeing some of them changing to better clothings, almost all of them brighten up. And my finance improved too. Ha! The concept of giving is powerful. Cash or gift is the seed while the person/organisation you give it to is the soil. Both seed and soil must be good before one reaps good harvest . So, canal people are manipulated by pastors who demand for tithès. Lol. I am not going to argue about the subject of giving tithe with anyone. Will not giving tithe make you lose your soul? Hahaha! My point is that these things are not the first priority. We just confuse ourselves by arguing on useless issues. What we need to do is to get hooked to the power behind the resurecton of Christ and lauch into the abstract world so we can see and hear. Then after who will confuse you with any doctrine? Even the man standing on the altar may not see and hear what you are seing and hearing. Once you are convinced in the abstract (which to me is the real world) world that giving is good and profitable, who can stop you? Hmmmmm! It is very simple. The Holy Spirit teaches and leads. If you dont hear him, how willl he teach and guide you? And it is not possible for anyone to confuse you. You just chill. Go to a quiet place and ask Him. He will show you the answer. So many people just talk bal bla bla. ...the question is that have they ever been spoken to by the Holy Spirit? Of course not? Feelings are difference from the experience I am talking about. When Jesus said that broad is the way to destruction, one cannot undersgand it until one starts seeing and hearing. Also, one will not understand what He meant by "my people perish cos of lack of knowledge" Of course it is knowledge in physical and spiritual. The knowledge most know about is the physical knowledge. What about the spiritual knowledge? You just know some things people around you do not know and they begin wondering how. Lack of knowledge is when you see an adult of over 40 behave like a kid. You do such adult a favor by spanking him or her with harsh words. Lack of knowledge is the reason one will say "Christ instituted denominations in this world so we can tap into one we are comfortable and grow in". Waoooooo! Waooooooo! Are you kidding me? Christ institited denomination? Anyone who is dead spiritually gets hooked to the doctrine of the church he or she attends. Will there be 7th Day adventist, Redeemed Baptist, Catholic, Protestants, Apostolic, Witnesses, etc when this world passes away? People do not think. And it is funny how foo.lishness is being defended these days. People with physical knowledge (masters and phd degrees holders) without spritual knowledge say some things and one must but stop arguing cos if they see and hear what you are seeing nand hearing, you know they will not utter cerfain statements. Let me stop here sir. 1 Like |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by almarthins(m): 2:55am On Jan 31, 2020 |
osazsky: The facts remain that christ was nt born on the 25th. The real mumu na u. Pope wey sit down one place decide dat christ should be celebrated on the same with dere idol. Make una dey religion, no open ur eyez o |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by Timmax(m): 6:35pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
you are very correct, not only sun worship day but everything doctrinal to idolators. With bunch of babalawos as pastos. I am a messenger of God with identity to no church. Keep up educating people even as some will declare you and daddy freeze(devil agent). |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by DateMynd44(m): 12:57pm On Mar 13, 2020 |
mhizv:where precisely in Delta are u? |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by mhizv(f): 1:11pm On Mar 13, 2020 |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by DateMynd44(m): 1:16pm On Mar 13, 2020 |
mhizv:cool! Came to Ughelli for an assignment. Would be leaving soon tho. Just felt we could get to know each other and talk. How about that? |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by DateMynd44(m): 1:24pm On Mar 13, 2020 |
mhizv: |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by DateMynd44(m): 12:21am On Mar 14, 2020 |
mhizv:hi u never added nor called ![]() |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by Kobojunkie: 4:36am On Jun 02, 2021 |
imolile:1. God is a God of Law and Jesus Christ His Law to mankind where His Kingdom is concerned. God's very instructions to you are that you obey His teachings/commandments in all wise. So it is impossible to be a follower of Jesus Christ (the Law) without submitting to and obeying the details of the Law that is He. There is no relationship to be had with Jesus Christ that can be said to exist outside of the Law that He embodies. ![]() 2. The relationship a follower of Jesus Christ has with Jesus is one built on the following of rules and laws that His Truth consists of. Every promise, benefit obtained from Him, be it... * Salvation (Saved from the condemnation of sin .i.e.Death) with gift of eternal life * being Born-again( born of water and of Spirit) * Freedom from slavery to sin to attain Sonship .i.ePerfection/Holiness * Spirit of Truth(Jesus Christ) and Spirit of God(God Himself) living inside of a one * Righteousness ... is only accessible to those who submit to and obey His commandments..the only way. ![]() 3. While a one who submits to and obeys the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ is said to have a relationship with Jesus Christ, God's Law, the same cannot be said of a one who instead follows after the doctrines and commandments of men in the name of Jesus Christ. There is no comparing God's Law, the Truth of God and the lies of men which nullify the power of God in the lives of those who submit to them. ![]() Hypocrites are described by Jesus Christ as those who with their mouths confess they follow Him but their very works reveal them to instead be filled with lies, doctrines and traditions of men, which are against God. The darkness that is the lies they follow is what shines forth from such men and can only be mistaken for the light of Jesus Christ by others equally blinded by lies of men. ![]() |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by FullBlastLight: 5:02pm On Dec 25, 2022 |
malvisguy212: ...bt d Bible says, a merry heart doeth good like medicine! |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by FullBlastLight: 5:10pm On Dec 25, 2022 |
Sunnycliff: Then show us d scriptural injunction or biblical basis of ur resting or going 2 Church every Sunday? Is Sunday d Sabbath day? Huh? Legalistic believers! |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by malvisguy212: 5:13pm On Dec 25, 2022 |
FullBlastLight:True that my brother.... but our context of merriment is different |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by FullBlastLight: 5:32pm On Dec 25, 2022 |
malvisguy212: U're not incorrrect, though! |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by malvisguy212: 6:09pm On Dec 25, 2022 |
FullBlastLight:Yes. we cannot Seat down eat , celebrate and relax while the sons of men go on PERDITION. the Gospel must be preach before the enemy get to the lost first. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by Kobojunkie: 7:49pm On Dec 26, 2022 |
malvisguy212:Even Jesus Christ did seat, eat, and relax, so are you insinuating that Jesus Christ did not know what you claim to know? ![]() |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by malvisguy212: 8:47pm On Dec 26, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Luke 7:34 |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by Kobojunkie: 8:52pm On Dec 26, 2022 |
malvisguy212:So do you understand the information you quote there because it pretty much says what I stated which is that Jesus Christ sat, ate, and relaxed? ![]() |
Re: Six Churches That Don't Celebrate Christmas by sevenhundred(m): 10:43am On Dec 27, 2022 |
jcross19:am supprise too, but they can celebrate and give speech on 1 oct, as if nig was created on that day, they equally forget it slavery back ground. |
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