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Supercomputer Ends Messi/Ronaldo Debate: By Sports Bible by Nobody: 4:48pm On Dec 24, 2019
According to Sports Bible, Messi is a better player than Ronaldo.

Will anyone ever be able to actually end the Lionel Messi vs Cristiano Ronaldo debate? Well we needn't worry because now a computer has done it all for us.

Both men have their fanboys and each were level on five Ballon d'Or each until Messi went clear earlier this month and won his sixth.

Whilst us mere mortals struggle to separate them a supercomputer has done the work for us.

Sporza report that professors at KU Leuven university and data experts at SciSports have come up with a formula to decide who is the best player. Professor Jesse Davis explained how their system works, saying, "The value of a soccer player is often determined by goals and assists. A goal is a rare event, however, because an average of 1,600 actions are estimated to occur in a match.

"Our model looks at each action - shots, passes, dribbles, tackles - and calculates its value."


Using data from the two players from the beginning of the 2013/14 season until Ronaldo left La Liga to join Juventus at the end of the 2017/18 season the computer decided the Barca man was the better player.

Messi ended with Valuing Actions by Estimating Probabilities, or VAEP, score of 1.21 per game with Ronaldo scoring just 0.61 per game.

Tom Decroos, a PhD student who was involved in the research, explained, "In the first seasons, Messi and Ronaldo's scores are very close to each other.

"From the 2015/16 season, Messi has stepped away from his eternal rival.

"We see a trade-off with most football players: either they make a lot of actions with a less high value - that's the case with Paul Pogba, for example.

"Or you have players who are less likely to hit the ball, but who have a big impact. That is typical of strikers like Harry Kane, Mohamed Salah and Ronaldo.

"Messi is exceptional in this area: the Argentinian has a very high number of actions and they also have a high value."

Interestingly Ronaldo's score for Real, during the same period he was compared with Messi, and Eden Hazard's score for Chelsea in that time are very similar.

The Belgian, who has since signed for Los Blancos, actually had a higher score of 0.64 and Lotte Bransen of SciSports explained why the nature of how they got their points means Hazard is a good replacement but not an exact one, "Ronaldo is a classic scorer. His value is mainly determined by his good shots. Hazard is more involved in the game. His value is more spread over passes, dribbles and shots."

So there you have it, Lionel Messi is the best player in the world. You can't argue with a computer, because you look pretty silly if you try.

Source: https://www.sportbible.com/football/rivalries-a-supercomputer-ended-the-lionel-messi-or-cristiano-ronaldo-debate-20191224.amp.html

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Re: Supercomputer Ends Messi/Ronaldo Debate: By Sports Bible by Joshpet5674(m): 4:51pm On Dec 24, 2019
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
With or without supercomputer
Messi is the best....

It's obvious naa

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Re: Supercomputer Ends Messi/Ronaldo Debate: By Sports Bible by BlackHummer(m): 5:03pm On Dec 24, 2019
Just be patient. Ronaldo fans are coming for your head OP grin
Re: Supercomputer Ends Messi/Ronaldo Debate: By Sports Bible by EbukaHades10(m): 5:05pm On Dec 24, 2019
Who made the computer?

Who made the software that analysed the data?

As far as humans made these things, they could be wrong. Hell, another group may come with theirs and say "based on this observation or whatever, Ronaldo is the best"

Who can say/know for sure?

Re: Supercomputer Ends Messi/Ronaldo Debate: By Sports Bible by Nobody: 5:11pm On Dec 24, 2019
EbukaHades10:
Who made the computer?

Who made the software that analysed the data?

As far as humans made these things, they could be wrong. Hell, another group may come with theirs and say "based on this observation or whatever, Ronaldo is the best"

Who can say/know for sure?

Ronaldo fans are known for accessing players based on goals only. In reality in addition to goals; shots, passes, dribbles, tackles, created chances and playmaking in general should determine the rating of a player. The source code for the program used for the analysis was based on these.

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Re: Supercomputer Ends Messi/Ronaldo Debate: By Sports Bible by Nobody: 5:12pm On Dec 24, 2019
BlackHummer:
Just be patient. Ronaldo fans are coming for your head OP grin

Lol. Someone like Jokerman will soon land tongue

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Re: Supercomputer Ends Messi/Ronaldo Debate: By Sports Bible by EbukaHades10(m): 5:17pm On Dec 24, 2019
DanXplore:


Ronaldo fans are known for accessing players based on goals only. In reality in addition to goals; shots, passes, dribbles, tackles, created chances and playmaking in general should determine the rating of a player. The source code for the program used for the analysis was based on these.
If that's the case

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