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World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by backbone503(m): 8:44am On Jan 04, 2020 |
A US-born prolific author and mobile pundit, Tomi Ahonen, has given reasons why it would be impossible for the United States to defeat Iran if war breaks out among the two nations. He said America will regret and may never win the war, which has been predicted to be deadliest if it happens. Ahonen’s position follows the death of Iran’s most powerful military commander, General Qasem Soleimani. “The USA CANNOT DEFEAT an enemy like Iran, this strong, this big, this competent, this HEAVILY ARMED with ADVANCED weapons who is UNIFIED & experienced,” the pundit concluded. “Since WW2, USA has been involved in ‘big’ wars with 4 nations (excluding the smaller conflicts like Bosnia, Somalia or Syria). Korean war (fought to a draw), Vietnam war (the USA lost), Afghanistan war (longest war, still ongoing, can’t be won) and Iraq (2 times). “So let’s start Iran with geography. Iran is a HUGE country. It is as big as North Korea… plus North Vietnam…. plus Afghanistan… and Iraq – COMBINED. Yes, Iran is a giant country, not EASY to defeat a LARGE country. But let’s look at its terrain. Iraq War was the tank war in the desert and the smart missiles, and heavy airpower. Tanks work well in wars in the DESERT. The USA had tanks in Vietnam and Afghanistan too. THEY DIDN’T HELP. America lost those wars. Russians tried tanks in Afghanistan too: lost. “A DRAMATIC difference between neighbors Iraq and Iran is that Iraq is flatland desert sand. And Iran is MOUNTAINS like.. Afghanistan. Not suitable terrain for tank warfare (for much of the country, there are some plains yes). “So then air power. The USA has the world’s biggest and most powerful air force. BY FAR the strongest in the world. And what is America’s favorite air power tool? The remotely piloted ‘drone’ like the Predator. Unmanned killer in the sky. Nearly unstoppable. “Who invented the modern remotely piloted drone? Not the USA. It was invented by Israel (Tadiran Mastiff and IAI Scout). Most Western Air Forces have deployed Israeli Drones. Most drones flying today include Israeli licenced tech. the Predator has Israeli tech. The unmanned remotely-piloted warplane, the ‘drone’ is America’s favorite tool to fight wars today. And who used them first? Israel. Who used them SECOND? A DECADE before the USA deployed drones in a war?… yeah… IRAN (against Iraq in its decade-long war). “The USA has never fought an adversary who HAD DRONES. Iran has LONGER MILITARY experience using drones IN BATTLE, than the USA and Iran was the first nation to deploy OFFENSIVE weapons onboard drones (when even Israel only used them for ‘spying’). Nasty enemy! “Let’s skip airplanes and tanks. Let’s go to the most expensive weapon system ever deployed – US Navy’s mighty aircraft carriers. USA used airpower from carriers in most of its wars including Korea, Vietnam (John McCain was a NAVY pilot) and Iraq. “Iran does NOT have aircraft carriers. But they have the WORST enemy for carriers instead – SUBMARINES. North Korea did not have submarines during the Korean war. North Vietnam didn’t have subs in the Vietnam war. Iraq didn’t have subs in either of the Iraq wars. “Since World War 2, USA has not fought ANY war against ANY rival including the small wars Somalia, Syria, and Bosnia – where the adversary operated submarines. Iran has submarines. They CHANGE the combat equation at sea – TOTALLY. “Let’s talk population. Iran’s population is near 90 million. That is about the same as 3 out of the four rivals I mentioned: Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea, and North Vietnam. Take THREE of those four, the population (when they had their war) is about 90 million. “Then let’s talk about INDUSTRIALIZATION. Some idiots think ‘Iranians are Beduins’ like ‘Arabs’. Iranians are not Arabic people. They are PERSIANS who are related to Europeans. Iran is an INDUSTRIALIZED country, similar to Southern European countries. “When the USA fought North Korea, it was a peasant nation. North Vietnam was a farming peasant nation. Afghanistan was and still is one of the poorest and least literate countries on the planet. Iraq was an oil-only economy. Iranians are EDUCATED and DIVERSE economy. “I do not mean that Iran could ‘win’ a war it STARTED against USA (like say a Pearl Harbor style sneak attack). I mean Iran is FAR worse rival than Vietnam or Afghanistan, a war USA cannot – CANNOT win. It would be a DECADES long quagmire of death and blood. “When USA fought Iraq (twice) that ‘nation’ was ineffective civil war, among THREE factions (Sunnis closely aligned with Syria, Shias aligned with Kuwait and Iran, and the Kurds). Iran is a HOMOGENOUS nation, essentially all Persians. Not DIVIDED “Earlier in 2019 Trump talked of 120,000 troops for Iran War. HAHAHA. Iran fought a DECADE-LONG war, when Saddam Hussein yes Iraq attacked. With 600,000 soldiers! When France & Soviets FULLY supported Iraq, & UK & USA supported modestly Iraq & nobody Iran. “Saddam had superiority in tanks, airplanes, soldiers, plus Saddam had MILITARY support of essentially all major weapons-providers. And IRAN HAD NO SUPPORT (in fact, Israel secretly helped Iran a little bit). Yet Iran pushed Iraq back, to stalemate. “Iran has what Vietnam had – Vietnam had ALREADY defeated Japan & France, by the time US went in. Iran has what Afghanistan had – Afghanistan had ALREADY defeated Britain & Soviets (Russians) before the US went in. And USA could not win its OWN wars vs VN & Afghanistan. “I do not mean, that Iran could in any way ‘win’ against the USA (like invade Texas or Alaska haha). But the USA CANNOT DEFEAT an enemy like Iran, this strong, this big, this competent, this HEAVILY ARMED with ADVANCED weapons who is UNIFIED & experienced. “Trump & Pompeo are pushing for a war against Iran. Trump wants ANY war to distract from his problems. A war in Iran would be NOTHING like the ‘easy’ wars in Iraq. War in Iran would be like the mess in Vietnam & the unending war in Afghanistan – only WORSE. “If Iran had done something HORRIBLE – like how Saddam Hussein INVADED and took over Kuwait – then maybe it might make sense to build a coalition for war. What we should know is that TRUMP’s lender – SAUDI ARABIA – want American soldiers to go die in Iran. “Saudi Arabia sees Iran as its regional rival. While both are Muslim nations, they have differing religious views (Iran is Shia, Saudi is Sunni). Saudis would love nothing more, than to see Iranian blood spilled – by AMERICAN soldiers dying there. Wrong war!” curled from Daily Post Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by ochuski(m): 8:44am On Jan 04, 2020 |
As far as the Bible is God's word, no nation can defeat the US to take over world rulership as it is the last world power before the coming of God's Kingdom. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by FryMosquito: 8:47am On Jan 04, 2020 |
US trending now |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by hisgrace090: 8:55am On Jan 04, 2020 |
The poster are you for or against Iran? You may think you love Iran not knowing that you're only hutting them. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by Slynation(m): 9:10am On Jan 04, 2020 |
Akuko N'kasobi..... One thing is certain for Iranians, it will surely end in tears |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by backbone503(m): 9:26am On Jan 04, 2020 |
hisgrace090: They say Iran is sponsoring global terrorism, and that Qassem Soleimani was planning and is responsible for many attacks and lose of lives. Have they told you the number of civilian casualties they've caused in the course of their failed wars and invasion of other countries? US should stop bullying other nations. If they don't, I'm sure you know what happens to bullies; they get ganged-up against and beaten. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by backbone503(m): 9:28am On Jan 04, 2020 |
Slynation: And more, not less, American lives will be lost. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by Oksman(m): 9:32am On Jan 04, 2020 |
backbone503: Incomplete analysis. America knows Iran' s contingency arrangement and hence may have another approach to it. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by backbone503(m): 9:45am On Jan 04, 2020 |
Oksman: And you feel US has the monopoly of Intelligence? Iran will most definitely opt for an asymmetric warfare against the US. Your US better be prepared on all grounds. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by RoseyJ: 10:13am On Jan 04, 2020 |
You are supporting those evil people against God's people. America can never be defeated. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by Slynation(m): 12:41pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
backbone503:Sure.... That's why it's called War |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by Horus(m): 12:54pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by backbone503(m): 1:04pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Slynation:US better be prepared, because Iran has nothing else to lose. 1 Like |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by Ojukwucriminal: 1:54pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Ignorant gullible pple actually think the US is the world police but they're clearly World bully and terrorist 2 Likes
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Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by Lionessza6(f): 2:36pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
backbone503: The evil government of the USA has left most of the world in dissaray ; from invasions,wars ,sanctions, economic & military coups . Iran knows that even if they are defeated in a war with these pink pigs, the most important thing for the world would be a weakened USA,translating to a weakened NATO .Silent Enemies of these murderous international terrorists all around the globe who have suffered some sort of oppression or subversion from these warmongers would finally gang up on them & take the savages down. I wish for the war to be taken to their doorstep ,they already have a percentage of their citizens who hate them even more than outsiders, this would be their chance at freedom & a great opportunity to mutilate even the the infants of the scum of the earth . 3 Likes
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Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by Lionessza6(f): 2:44pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Ojukwucriminal: Brainwashing; they together with their allies own all the international media houses. Don't forget Hollywood & the international "advertising companies ". 1 Like |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by marvin906(m): 2:46pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
RoseyJ: your a fool 2 Likes
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Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by backbone503(m): 5:46pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
marvin906:Pardon her. She is being ignorant. 1 Like |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by backbone503(m): 5:46pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
marvin906:Pardon her. She is being ignorant. 1 Like |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by timesup234: 6:39pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
ochuski:may sango cut ur mouth into pieces for being such a braindead morroon 1 Like |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by leofab(f): 7:35pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
China ; Russia ; North Korea ; Iran; India and Germany should declare war on USA.. they are all likely to be next target of assaults.. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by backbone503(m): 7:43pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
leofab: US bullies and assaults a lot. Apart from countries like North Korea, Iran, Turkey, China non is usually bold enough to confront them. Terrorism is bad, no doubt, but US should respect other nations. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by funmike83(f): 8:57pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Hmm, i guess all those praying for US downfall were denied visa |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by funmike83(f): 9:09pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
Hmmm |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by backbone503(m): 9:17pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
funmike83: US is highly overrated. There are many countries that are by far better. 1 Like |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by Ryocaj(m): 10:38pm On Jan 04, 2020 |
ochuski:Where was it written in d bible that US cannot b defeated 1 Like |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by leofab(f): 1:56am On Jan 05, 2020 |
backbone503:there is no terrorism anything.. the French and British imperialism Isn’t short of terrorism... |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by panafrican(m): 2:25am On Jan 05, 2020 |
backbone503:Great insight. Great job. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by leke12(m): 6:11am On Jan 05, 2020 |
Everybody shouting Iran versus USA, this is Shia muslims vs USA. imagine Israel attacking Saudi Arabia, what do you think will happen? |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by panafrican(m): 6:32am On Jan 05, 2020 |
Horus:The is devil at work again calling for more bloodshed. Appalling these so called God Chosen people who stole Palestinians' land. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by backbone503(m): 8:05am On Jan 05, 2020 |
leke12: Over two decades, Iran has built and enjoys the fierce loyalty of tens of thousands of fighters (mostly Shiites) in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Gaza strip. These heavily armed allies are within easy striking distance of US forces and American allies. |
Re: World War III: US cannot (or might not) defeat Iran by leke12(m): 8:12am On Jan 05, 2020 |
backbone503:Sure they can but not all. Moreover, Americans and allies cannot protect all their assets and people over the world. It will be a worldwide guerrilla warfare. example, imagine US,france or British assets is attacked in Nigeria or niger or ghana by shia Muslims terrorist cells. |
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