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Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by jesmond3945: 9:30am On Jan 06, 2020
One4me:


I wont argue with you but will just ask you to provide any CREDIBLE EVIDENCE to back up that your claim, apart from just quoting Faux News of CNN or some other CIA mouth-piece.
I am waiting.

But in the meantime, recall that America invaded Iraq of FALSE PRETEXES, MANUFACTURED LIES and DECIET of even its own people.
The Iraqi people resented this and fought back but America over-powered them, killed their President, looted their Gold and has been stealing their Oil since then.
They want America out of their country but are powerless to fight back hence their resort to "hit and run tactics", using crude means like roadside bombs.
The people formed themselves into resistance groups and America labelled such groups as "terrorists" when infact, we know who the invader and actaul terrorists is!
Just because this assassinated man "gives training to Iraqi Soldeirs" and was also the one that leads the force that fought ISIS in Iraq, this is the silly excuse that the Americans are mouthing, that you are quoting!

Infact, a lot of American generals said, on the first day of his assasination, that they are shocked that America will kill the person that has assisted the whole world in defeating ISIS in Iraq and the Levant. (though, as expected, most of them are towing the "official line" now, since everyone has to rally round the flag, as we say).

The anger of America was that attack on their green Zone embassy in Iraq and that was done by native Iraqis and the iraqi PMF, not Suleiman.
But like in the attack on iraq, when America wants to get you, they just use any excuse to do their evil job.
They killed him because they see it as a blow to Iran, for the downing of their Drone that they were using to spy on Iran, in Iranian space.


And dont forget, elelction is this year, like all American President, war is seen as a plus to win an election (weird and stupid American public!).
Add to that mix, Israel that uses America to weaken its neighbours and do its dirty job, while it builds itself as the sole super power of the middle east. undecided undecided

Make l nor talk everything wey l know, make them nor come Drone my Kunnu Shinkafi grin grin
boss i love your intelligent analysis. please give us more insight.

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Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Truckpusher(m): 9:49am On Jan 06, 2020
Sterope:
So you would rather support a nation that has consistently destabilised other regions, supported militias who turned to terrorists, funded coups in other countries because their economic policies were unfavourable. Nations that are somehow responsible for the sad state of African countries.

Because you hate Muslims or what?

It is weirdly funny that a man who complains of marginalisation of his minority group do not have problem supporting nations that bully smaller nations because of their oil and other economic gains they wish to enjoy.

Have you ever pondered on what US has done against Iran? It started when they funded a coup because Iran decided to use their OIL for their own benefit and they continued to interfere till the present day. Yet you from an oil rich region thinks Iran standing for itself is wrong?

FYI, these countries also own oil companies causing environmental damages in your regions. I read they are already leaving because Buhari decided the leeching was too much. Now you are going to be left with all those damages.

I am not pro-Iran. It has done really bad things but it has not done as much damage to the world like your western countries.

Sir, you are a hypocrite. Let me see you complain about marginalisation of the Niger Delta.


After the nationalization of their oil , why couldn't they just mind their own business instead of using proxies to destabilize the entire region all in the name of regional influence, Talking about the Niger Delta issue, how can you show so much concern about Iran when you and your kinsmen are hell bent on stealing from the Niger Delta.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Spectrum22: 9:53am On Jan 06, 2020
alexola20:
And do you know what happened next that took President Erdogan to took a quick flight to Moscow and apologized publicly for that event even when he had boasted that Turkey won't apologize for it.
Terrorist hit at Istanbul airport,coup plot that could have topple his govt and Turkey will be quickly turned to Syria or Libya or worse.
Nobody dares the Russians.
The history has taught us.


That is the diplomatic approach I'm talking about.

Putin could have ignored all efforts to appease him and order a retaliatory strike but he made a choice that does not necessarily diminish his status and at the same time assuring the Turkish President how extremely lucky he was.

That's how an all out war was averted.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by JOHNSONSOLAFUNMI(m): 10:05am On Jan 06, 2020
ibietela2:


First of all how did the idiot know that Iran did all that in your screenshot? Because America said they did? Proof? NONE

Secondly why don't you ask NATO, CIA, FRANCE, BRITAIN AND USA why they have refused to allow the middle East be in PEACE?

You are calling out Russia but forgot to mention the Americans, or Obama who gave rebels $500M to fight the government.

Who attacked the embassy ?

Who killed the American contractor ?

Who seized those British ships ?

Who shut down America drone ?

Who attacked Saudi field ?

What’s he doing with the leader of a militia in Iraq immediately after attacking the embassy ?

Have you watched the video clip where he was causing America and wishing trump death?

He should wait like Obama so Benghazi 2.0 can happen?

Trump calculated fast, if he didn’t, surely USA will be attacked, which will ultimately put the American people against him


Qud force is just a sophisticated militia supported by the Iranian government, the man has been declared a terrorist since 05

Osama was killed
“Al Baghdadi” was killed

Nobody raised an eye

So why will the death of a terrorist leader cause 3rd world war, please leave sentiment out of this

Killing the man was a message to all terrorist sponsor and sympathizers, if you attack the US, you’ll be hit very fast and severely

2 trillion dollar worth of military equipment no be seresere

Iran only has her terrorist group that’ll support her, not even China or Russia will come into this


I don’t want war but Iran should calm down, trump warned the Iranian president in 2018 to stop threatening America, he warned him last month too and what did Khomeini said?

Trump can’t do nothing

And after doing something great and severe, he’s crying foul, if they retaliate, that’ll be their end and that’s a fact

No martyr or suicidal attempt will stop those military equipment

And I pity their nuclear site, it’ll be turned into ashes in a twinkle of an eye

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Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Sterope(f): 10:15am On Jan 06, 2020
No, they could not.

America caused a coup and imposed their puppet, a very corrupt man as the Iranian leader.

And America continued to interfere in their region politics, economy etc.

And America continued to fund militias to destabilise their region.

What about all these silly American/Western sponsored leadership programs for Africans, YALI and co? Another interference albeit subtle.

Iran is also guilty, we know they fund militia proxies to fight against American and Saudi Arabia funded militias, Their interference has led to loss or innocent lives, they are also bad.

HOWEVER is it as bad as America? NO

Western interference has a wider and negative influence on every other country, Africa, the Middle East and more recently, Hong Kong.

Libya is a consequence of America's interference. Terrorism in French speaking part of West Africa is a consequence of France enrichment programme and African's corruption.

Voila, we get Boko Haram.

EU gives money to terrorist organisations and militias in Libya and surrounding countries to stop refugees from crossing over. These militias sell and rape our men and women.

But God forbid we blame the West.

You think it is right to support these countries that are experts in destabilising the world for their selfish reasons.







Truckpusher:
After the nationalization of their oil , why couldn't they just mind their own business instead of using proxies to destabilize the entire region all in the name of regional influence, Talking about the Niger Delta issue, how can you show so much concern about Iran when you and your kinsmen are hell bent on stealing from the Niger Delta.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Carlyboi(m): 10:19am On Jan 06, 2020
Ebenezar2020:
exactly France was the worst hit
before nkor I guess it was simply a case of karma the US simply tagged along before they got themselves immersed in what shouldn’t concern them France and Britain were the main protagonist....!!

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Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Sterope(f): 10:21am On Jan 06, 2020
I as a person have so much solidarity for the Niger Delta. You are the victim of the west you support, a victim of your leaders and a victim of Nigeria.

However my position is irrelevant. I am not a victim of either. If at all anyone should be showing solidarity it should be YOU not me. It shows you really do not care about marginalisation if you are not a victim.
.

Truckpusher:
After the nationalization of their oil , why couldn't they just mind their own business instead of using proxies to destabilize the entire region all in the name of regional influence, Talking about the Niger Delta issue, how can you show so much concern about Iran when you and your kinsmen are hell bent on stealing from the Niger Delta.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Nobody: 10:29am On Jan 06, 2020
sleemomymy:
. You are just a kid. Nothing less than 120000 personnel were taken from Nigeria to fight in WW2. WW3 is going to be a nuclear war, either you are taken or not. You will feel the impact.

How old are you? you should be a war veteran.
Nigeria was a slave to the brit and as such fought under brits.. Tell me any book or documentary that says that nigeria enter world war 1 and 11 as independent country.
When britain, america, russia, france comes together to celebrate and the veterans of those war and to pay tribute to those during the said war, did nigeria joint them?.
when they say world war its not every country that join so as well during the cold war..
Your type are the ones fighting people justifying that anthony joshua is a nigeria fighter when the world know that he is fighting under british flag.

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Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Nobody: 10:30am On Jan 06, 2020
abeg o, shey na iran or abi na iraq

i thought they were two different countries
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Nobody: 10:35am On Jan 06, 2020
teepain:


Yes Nigeria fought in the 2nd world war, on the side of the British.

Your forefathers were just a slave and as such slaves have to obey their masters... nigeria never fought any of those war as an independent nation and that is if at all nigerians was involve.
Germany hitler would have crush you.
Go back and read about world war 1 & 2 then come back any argue with me.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by SmartyPants(m): 11:05am On Jan 06, 2020
sleemomymy:
. IRAN IS THE AGGRESSOR IN WHAT SENSE? AMERICA SHOULD JUST LET EVERY OTHER COUNTRY BE AND THERE WILL BE PEACE ON THE WHOLE WORLD.

Do you have any idea how many countries Iran's Quds force is currently active in? In the past few weeks a US base was attacked and the US embassy was invaded... Those are acts of war... Was a response not expected??
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by SmartyPants(m): 11:08am On Jan 06, 2020
ibietela2:


I don't know what you people benefit from supporting American that have turned people's countries into war zones for decades, overthrown legitimate government and many more atrocities.


Every case must be judged on its own merit. In this particular instance Iran is the aggressor.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Truckpusher(m): 11:47am On Jan 06, 2020
Sterope:
No, they could not.

America caused a coup and imposed their puppet, a very corrupt man as the Iranian leader.

And America continued to interfere in their region politics, economy etc.

And America continued to fund militias to destabilise their region.

What about all these silly American/Western sponsored leadership programs for Africans, YALI and co? Another interference albeit subtle.

Iran is also guilty, we know they fund militia proxies to fight against American and Saudi Arabia funded militias, Their interference has led to loss or innocent lives, they are also bad.

HOWEVER is it as bad as America? NO

Western interference has a wider and negative influence on every other country, Africa, the Middle East and more recently, Hong Kong.

Libya is a consequence of America's interference. Terrorism in French speaking part of West Africa is a consequence of France enrichment programme and African's corruption.

Voila, we get Boko Haram.

EU gives money to terrorist organisations and militias in Libya and surrounding countries to stop refugees from crossing over. These militias sell and rape our men and women.

But God forbid we blame the West.

You think it is right to support these countries that are experts in destabilising the world for their selfish reasons.







I understand where you're coming from and I'm also aware that Americas interference destabilized lots region across the globe. However , when Iran for whatever it is started behaving like the American Govt. then it's fair enough to say that all is fair in war.

They should face the consequences for all the atrocities they've committed around the world with their proxies and of course the Americans will pay their own price when that time comes . No super power over our long history of existence as mankind that didn't fall to her knees when the time comes.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Truckpusher(m): 11:51am On Jan 06, 2020
Sterope:
I as a person have so much solidarity for the Niger Delta. You are the victim of the west you support, a victim of your leaders and a victim of Nigeria.

However my position is irrelevant. I am not a victim of either. If at all anyone should be showing solidarity it should be YOU not me. It shows you really do not care about marginalisation if you are not a victim.
.

I'm not a victim of the West , I'm a victim of the Nigerian system.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by aristocratic5(m): 11:55am On Jan 06, 2020
Na Wa ooooo
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Sterope(f): 11:56am On Jan 06, 2020
Are you sure about that?
Truckpusher:
I'm not a victim of the West , I'm a victim of the Nigerian system.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Truckpusher(m): 12:01pm On Jan 06, 2020
Sterope:
Are you sure about that?
100 % sure.

The West can do whatever they want by lumping us all together, but it is now left with our people at the helms of our affairs to do what is right.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Sterope(f): 12:05pm On Jan 06, 2020
It is fair in war but your initial position was totally in support of America and Donald Trump.

Do you know long it took to get both sides to commit to a deal? Iran kept to terms but America decided to pull out. Yet you call Obama a pacifist? Obama is without his own faults in world politics but you blame him for taking a step towards putting Iran in check.

You have to think about the innocents in Iran, the potential victims of terrorist attacks in the West not Iran or America.


Truckpusher:
I understand where you're coming from and I'm also aware that Americas interference destabilized lots region across the globe. However , when Iran for whatever it is started behaving like the American Govt. then it's fair enough to say that all is fair in war.

They should face the consequences for all the atrocities they've committed around the world with their proxies and of course the Americans will pay their own price when that time comes . No super power over our long history of existence as mankind that didn't fall to her knees when the time comes.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by quickly: 12:16pm On Jan 06, 2020
ibietela2:


If Iran is sponsoring terrorism what is US sponsoring? Peace keeping?

I dislike people who accuse Iran but hails the US (the chief architect of all the unrest in the world) as Angel.

In your mind killing a general in another country is good because they told you he is evil and without proof you swallowed it.

did iran not kill civilians in US Embassy ?

Iran has a lot of enemies aside the US, all because of their big mouth.

Ordinary Israel will finish them.

US typically dont intefer into countries unless someone is doing something against international protocol.

They act as world police and break the law which they hold others accountable for. but US is also one of the most transparent societies in the world and their leaders are closely scrutinized and easily punishable. by Congress. unlike other coutries

Thats the law of the jungle, might is right.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Sterope(f): 12:18pm On Jan 06, 2020
Lets factor the fate of countries that took a stance against the West history at the pinnacle of oil wealth, if Nigeria had taken a stance. Lets imagine where Niger Delta would be.

You keep talking about Nigeria. Have the Niger Deltan leaders done anything differently? Was it not a Niger Deltan that rewarded a Northerner that took the lives of ND activists?

Are you not in support of the same leader who awarded grant to charities that were purported to benefit the Niger Delta but instead were used for private benefit?

Why do you think they are running away now? Would they be running away if Buhari had signed the Deep Offshore Act and Inland Basin Production Sharing Contracts Act and oil was still as profitable?


*I am not pro-Buhari



Truckpusher:
100 % sure.

The West can do whatever they want by lumping us all together, but it is now left with our people at the helms of our affairs to do what is right.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by sulasa07(m): 12:25pm On Jan 06, 2020
dawnomike:
Everyone should just stand down for now!!!
Russian spy was killed on british soil - No war
Kashoggi was killed in Turkey - No war
Bin laden was killed in pakistan - No war

This case can be resolves wit no war if everyone suing for it could just stand down
Is Qaseem Suleimani just a spy,he is a general.Iran won't attack directly now why,they are in defensive war,they plan for the future but as for US and Trump,he's overconfindent coz he's the one attacking,his defence his poor but Iran is defending,so they need beta formation than US.

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Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by quickly: 12:26pm On Jan 06, 2020
Sterope:
It is fair in war but your initial position was totally in support of America and Donald Trump.

Do you know long it took to get both sides to commit to a deal? Iran kept to terms but America decided to pull out. Yet you call Obama a pacifist? Obama is without his own faults in world politics but you blame him for taking a step towards putting Iran in check.

You have to think about the innocents in Iran, the potential victims of terrorist attacks in the West not Iran or America.



Iran didnt keep to terms they had an underground nuclear program going on. Collecting money on the the surface and kept sponsoring terrorism around the world.

Iran problem is too much aggressive shouting and Not humbling themselves.

They already told the world that if the have nuclear weapon they will attack ISrael and you know US will defend its ally
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Ayobami7(m): 12:28pm On Jan 06, 2020
见过
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Sterope(f): 12:34pm On Jan 06, 2020
Is that what EU and UN reported or what the US reported?

If they didn't, what did they do differently from US and other Western countries?

Why the Bleep are you picking sides? The West has hurt the world more than every other nation combined!!!

It should not matter because what is more important is preventing the fools from causing more damage.




quickly:


Iran didnt keep to terms they had an underground nuclear program going on. Collecting money on the the surface and kept sponsoring terrorism around the world.

Iran problem is too much aggressive shouting and Not humbling themselves.

They already told the world that if the have nuclear weapon they will attack ISrael and you know US will defend its ally
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by quickly: 12:49pm On Jan 06, 2020
Sterope:
No, they could not.

America caused a coup and imposed their puppet, a very corrupt man as the Iranian leader.

And America continued to interfere in their region politics, economy etc.

And America continued to fund militias to destabilise their region.

What about all these silly American/Western sponsored leadership programs for Africans, YALI and co? Another interference albeit subtle.

Iran is also guilty, we know they fund militia proxies to fight against American and Saudi Arabia funded militias, Their interference has led to loss or innocent lives, they are also bad.

HOWEVER is it as bad as America? NO

Western interference has a wider and negative influence on every other country, Africa, the Middle East and more recently, Hong Kong.

Libya is a consequence of America's interference. Terrorism in French speaking part of West Africa is a consequence of France enrichment programme and African's corruption.

Voila, we get Boko Haram.

EU gives money to terrorist organisations and militias in Libya and surrounding countries to stop refugees from crossing over. These militias sell and rape our men and women.

But God forbid we blame the West.

You think it is right to support these countries that are experts in destabilising the world for their selfish reasons.








which coup? ahmedinjad was the previous iran leader he was anti everbody same as rouhani.


Libya was ousted by France and NATO backed them. NATO is similar to ECOMOG

France was the key aggressor becuae they feel Africa is their birthright


Boko HAram is sponsored by the middle east not by france.

Qatar, IRan, Turkey and some other islamic organisations in the middle east is sponsoring Boko Haram not the EU.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by 15ssDRIVE(m): 12:58pm On Jan 06, 2020
alsudaes1:

So sad, as if war is like football match that we get to watch without any harm on the players nor spectators

No empire last for ever !!! Na so history talk oh .
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Sterope(f): 1:46pm On Jan 06, 2020
There was a coup before Ahmedinjad, yes he was quite a fanatic. The CIA took responsibility.

THE WEST, France led it and it was backed by NATO and Belgium.

EU does give money to terrorists in Libya etc to keep people from crossing over.

The rise of Terrosim is like the election in Nigeria where Politicians arm thugs and cultists who end up using those weapons to commit crimes after election. Every time, the west destabilise a nation, they do it true militias like Libya for example. Some of these militias end up going rogue. It is because of Libya and the terrorism in Niger and the rest, we have Boko Haram. They brought their madness close to home. I am very much in doubt about SA funding Boko Haram.

The west especially America arms militias. Saudi Arabia and co, also arm militias. They buy weapons from America and EU and arm militias.
Iran, Turkey and co also arm militias.




quickly:


which coup? ahmedinjad was the previous iran leader he was anti everbody same as rouhani.


Libya was ousted by France and NATO backed them. NATO is similar to ECOMOG

France was the key aggressor becuae they feel Africa is their birthright


Boko HAram is sponsored by the middle east not by france.

Qatar, IRan, Turkey and some other islamic organisations in the middle east is sponsoring Boko Haram not the EU.
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by sacx: 2:44pm On Jan 06, 2020
sulasa07:

Is Qaseem Suleimani just a spy,he is a general.Iran won't attack directly now why,they are in defensive war,they plan for the future but as for US and Trump,he's overconfindent coz he's the one attacking,his defence his poor but Iran is defending,so they need beta formation than US.

War veterans full this nairaland o cheesy
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Czartega(m): 4:34pm On Jan 06, 2020
KendrickAyomide:
people rooting for war are doing so from the comfort of their homes behind their Mobile phones and obviously don't know what it feels like to be in the Field

leave us alone... chief of army staff.. field soldier
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by abbey621(m): 5:05pm On Jan 06, 2020
macminista:
that’s not my question bro ... Iraq yes but Afghanistan war is still on ; never won

That's like saying Biafra war was never won by Nigeria...lol. Yes there were enormous costs on both sides but only one country's citizen is walking freely and boastfully and it ain't the people of Afghanistan....LEEMAO!
Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by Myself2(m): 5:48pm On Jan 06, 2020
crownwealth:
Iran should try nonsense and get nonsense from Trump.


Btw: when will Major General Buharin make his usual statement on the death of Sulaiman?

grin grin grin

Lol @ Major general Buhari.

The man won't say anything, somehow he too is happy or haffi in his case, Solemani was a Shia, just like El Zakzaky,in fact ne Iran dey give Zakzaky liver before, so Major general Buhari is a Sunni muslim and he could care less

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Re: Macron Urges Iran To Avoid ‘escalation’, Voices ‘solidarity’ With US by dapadawee: 6:17pm On Jan 06, 2020
dawnomike:
Everyone should just stand down for now!!!
Russian spy was killed on british soil - No war
Kashoggi was killed in Turkey - No war
Bin laden was killed in pakistan - No war

This case can be resolves wit no war if everyone suing for it could just stand down
abacha was killed in Abuja no war

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