sammirano:
What you fail to realize is that English is a language of some people like any other, French, dutch etc. For you to qualify as mother tongue, you must be from an English parent. If you like learn English from Day 0, you are not English native.

Google will help you with any issues you have regarding definitions. Have a nice day.

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Hi i need help please. I just applied for Masters international tourism and i am curious on whats being asked on the application test. Can anyone help please

MrAAA2:


Revolut...

N26 may not even register you as a Nigerian... Or close the account after some time.

Thanks!

megaxart:


A mother tongue/native language is the first language you learn to speak. If the first language he learnt to speak was English then English is in fact his mother tongue. There's no need for this jest.

Well, this has been thoroughly addressed so no need to continue unnecessary discussion and repititons.

Summary: Nigeria may be an English speaking country but NOT a native speaker.

justt:


Well, this has been thoroughly addressed so no need to continue unnecessary discussion and repititons.

Summary: Nigeria is an English speaking country but NOT a native speaker.

For the last time. A native speaker of a language is a person who has acquired that language inadvertently from birth as their FIRST language. If your argument is that not every Nigerian is a native English speaker you'd be correct however an overwhelmingly large proportion of Nigerians (especially of the younger generation) are native English speakers. And again, I'm not referring to heritage language or indigenous language because they are not the same thing. The word mother tongue is a direct translation of the German word "Muttersprache" and both words mean the first language you learn as a child. If he learnt English as a first language he qualifies as a native speaker of English, that's the end of that.

megaxart:


For the last time. A native speaker of a language is a person who has acquired that language inadvertently from birth as their FIRST language. If your argument is that not every Nigerian is a native English speaker you'd be correct however an overwhelmingly large proportion of Nigerians (especially of the younger generation) are native English speakers. And again, I'm not referring to heritage language or tribal language because they are not the same thing. The word mother tongue is a direct translation of the German word "Muttersprache" and both words mean the first language you learn as a child. If he learnt English as a first language he qualifies as a native speaker of English, that's the end of that.

It's good you are gradually admitting that Nigeria or Nigerians are not native speakers and you are shifting from the initial argument. Your definition is correct but on the broader sense your argument is a bit faulty because being a native speaker, and in the context being discussed cannot be defined in isolation or based on individuals. It has to be based on your citizenship.

In this context of a student seeking an admission, being native speaker or having English Language as your mother tongue means the language is well spoken by everyone in your home country. How many Nigerians speak in English Language, I mean as the main medium of communication?

Although you admitted that more of the younger generation now speaks more in English Language but I also see that as an error of hasty generalization because the "younger generation" is not defined. Up to 30 years or under 10 years? So, concluding that "overwhelmingly large proportions of Nigerians are native speakers" may also be incorrect!

Most people who speak in English and assuming we are using your definition of native speakers, are the children of elites or those whose parents can afford good private schools.

The rest and I'm my own opinion, who are the majority can only communicate in English and cannot be described as native speakers!

How many Nigerians can understand what is being said when the real native speakers talk? It's not only being able to speak it; can you understand the real native speakers? This doesn't mean he cannot get an exemption for his admission but claiming to be a native speaker may be far from being true.

So, the conclusion is still that Nigeria may be an English speaking country but NOT a native speaker!

justt:


It's good you are gradually admitting that Nigeria or Nigerians are not native speakers and you are shifting from the initial argument. Your definition is correct but on the broader sense your argument is a bit faulty because being a native speaker, and in the context being discussed cannot be defined in isolation or based on individuals. It has to be based on your citizenship.

In this context of a student seeking an admission, being native speaker or having English Language as your mother tongue means the language is well spoken by everyone in your home country. How many Nigerians speak in English Language, I mean as the main medium of communication?

Although you admitted that more of the younger generation now speaks more in English Language but I also see that as an error of hasty generalization because the "younger generation" is not defined. Up to 30 years or under 10 years? So, concluding that "overwhelmingly large proportions of Nigerians are native speakers" may also be incorrect!

Most people who speak in English and assuming we are using your definition of native speakers, are the children of elites or those whose parents can afford good private schools.

The rest and I'm my own opinion, who are the majority can only communicate in English and cannot be described as native speakers!

How many Nigerians can understand what is being said when the real native speakers talk? It's not only being able to speak it; can you understand the real native speakers? This doesn't mean he cannot get an exemption for his admission but claiming to be a native speaker may be far from being true.

So, the conclusion is still that Nigeria may be an English speaking country but NOT a native speaker!

Look at this point I don't really care anymore. I've argued with facts and definitions. He can tell the university and they can consider him as a native speaker (which he rightfully would be). If they do not that'd be quite a shame. Have a nice day.

megaxart:


The national language of Nigeria is English. If he was raised speaking English he therefore qualifies as a native speaker of English. He wouldn't even need a waiver. He should clarify to the university that he originates from an English speaking country, this could be coming from ignorance on the university's part.

This was where you categorically stated that he qualifies as a native speaker of English. I only earlier said what he is not a native speaker of English language despite that Nigeria is English speaking country.
Someone else said the same thing where we suggested either he presents the test results or explain for a waiver, or request for English as language of instruction from his former sch.

After back and forth messages... You are now agreeing with my first comment-"Nigeria is not a native English speaker but English speaking country and he can appeal for a waiver".

MrAAA2:


This was where you categorically stated that he qualifies as a native speaker of English. I only earlier said what he is not a native speaker of English language despite that Nigeria is English speaking country.
Someone else said the same thing where we suggested either he presents the test results or explain for a waiver, or request for English as language of instruction from his former sch.

After back and forth messages... You are now agreeing with my first comment-"Nigeria is not a native English speaker but English speaking country and he can appeal for a waiver".

And I still stand by the fact that he is a native English speaker (if it his in fact his first language). Your argument is that he is not because he's Nigerian and that is flat out wrong going by the definition of what a native speaker is. I in no way agreed with your first comment you need to re read, it's possible you missed something. I am saying that someone being a native speaker is judged individually (A country like the UK has many individuals who aren't native speakers of English). I stated that he should use the fact that he is from an English speaking country to emphasise the validity of the fact that English is his mother tongue, simple as that. It's not even that complicated and at the end of the day it's the school that will decide to rightfully regard him as a native English speaker (and again, they'd be right to do so). This has been drawn out too long and we are cluttering the forum at this point.

Divwake:
you'll get very soon... Be patient a bit more

How long did you have to wait for an interview with the embassy?

Odionelias:

How long did you have to wait for an interview with the embassy?

over a year

I added mine anyway, most people now use their University degree.

16inchdick:


Morning does teesside require IELTS for admission?

Good day guys, please anyone who gets an AD today should please share. All the best��

Divwake:
over a year

Like when did u apply for yours and when did they respond to you? Thanks for your response.

hello guys
please it's Friday, if you received an AD today, kindly share it with the group to help the others who haven't gotten track their speculated date.
thank you and stay blessed

Hi guys, pls i will like to know , is there an alternative to opening blocked account as regards German schhols?

Please I need help, I want to know if the primary school certificate was demanded during the interview?

Brownvision222:
Hi guys, pls i will like to know , is there an alternative to opening blocked account as regards German schhols?

The only alternative is a Declaration of Commitment certificate (sponsorship letter) from a permanent resident or German citizen who can demonstrate sufficient financial capability [size=8pt][/size]

justt:


Thanks!

please i really need help here, i have completed the amount required for the block account but i am yet to receive any confirmation or document and my appointment is get closer i dont know what to do now

I need help on sponsorship letter.. I really need help

Ahanonufranklin:
please i really need help here, i have completed the amount required for the block account but i am yet to receive any confirmation or document and my appointment is get closer i dont know what to do now

Is it up to 5 working days since you paid?
Normal timeline is 3-5 working days to reach the bank, another 3-5 working days for your bank to receive and confirm it before notifying you.
Only worry when it's more than 10 working days from initiation, though usually less.

Amista:
I need help on sponsorship letter.. I really need help

While you're seeking help, be very careful not to fall into wrong hands.

Please, how important is this primary school leaving certificate and can non-inclusion of it lead to visa rejection?

justt:
Please, how important is this primary school leaving certificate and can non-inclusion of it lead to visa rejection?

It's not needed as far as I know

MrAAA2:


It's not needed as far as I know

@MrAA2, your actually deserve an award for your availability and prompt response to inquiries on this platform.

Thank you!

can someone please clarify for me. for visa application does a 4.1 qualify as category A?

goldsmiths:
can someone please clarify for me. for visa application does a 4.1 qualify as category A?

No

goldsmiths:
can someone please clarify for me. for visa application does a 4.1 qualify as category A?

It doesn't

Have they started giving out appointment dates rapidly?..its been long I checked this platform since the covid 19 saga.

Hello guys I made an appointment with the German embassy on Dec 5 following my admission into Arden university with a resumption date for 13th of February. Please how long does it take to get an appointment date from the German Lagos embassy? Or do I need to fund my blocked account before I get a date?

Slymaine:
Hello guys I made an appointment with the German embassy on Dec 5 following my admission into Arden university with a resumption date for 13th of February. Please how long does it take to get an appointment date from the German Lagos embassy? Or do I need to fund my blocked account before I get a date?

December 2022 or 2021

Slymaine:
Hello guys I made an appointment with the German embassy on Dec 5 following my admission into Arden university with a resumption date for 13th of February. Please how long does it take to get an appointment date from the German Lagos embassy? Or do I need to fund my blocked account before I get a date?

If you are not on a scholarship or first class it takes a year or more.