^^^^

If you do not know: Kobojunkie is nuts

BTW, She lives in Chicago in the US, and somehow she knows and she is sure that there is fuel shortage in Nigeria every week

She is the craziest girl I have ever met in my life.

its really funny here ,how poeple are talking about the M O T as if its M O T as it should be .
M O T here in Naija is just a piece of paper that cost 5000Naira more or less.if you have ever taken your car for MOT inspection here in naija please confirm it.

even the

LASTMA cars/pickup can never pass M O T test

KAI cars/pickup can never pass M OT test

POLICE patrol vans can never pass M O T test


i dont know if the above will change the next minute but at present thats how its stands

@ Poster , the heading is incoherent.

It is disjointed and rambling!

Kobojunkie:

It is very immature of you to think that because I do not see this through the paranoid lense you choose to, means I am your enemy. I have simply made sure to ask you, over and over, to produce factual information on the particular laws that are being broken in this case. More than 10 posts later, none still.

Nigerians are used to fuel shortage -- it occurs most every month and so I don't see why that should be used as excuse not to get some progress now.

Yes, the government is yet to perfect it's system but we should not discount a good move that could potential save 1000's of lives from  time of implementation. I know I am tired of reading stories of people roasting alive in one tanker fire or another. If making sure only roadworthy vehicles are allowed to transport the fuel will aid in reducing the problem, I am good. If you do not like that, that is fine by me but whining because I hold a different opinion only shows you the slowpoke here.

Enemy? Paranoid ? Monthly fuel shortage? Honey I don't know what you bin smoking but you need to take a break. You need to ASK people who live in this country about what is going on and then try and make intelligent comments. I decided not to respond to your ignorant questions because these kinds of discussions with people who live outside the country is usually a waste of time. They come up with all sorts of things that don't exist.

Educate yourself a little bit and maybe we can have a worthwhile informed discussion.

Though it can be potentially divisive, this is precisely why I will continue to respect governance in Lagos. It has given progressives this wisp of hope. You can challenge the centre when you have issues that bother you. Let this be clear. The tanker/road worthiness issue and the trailer/container issue is a huge problem in Lagos which the Federal Government through its agencies has so far failed to address. I could remember the timid attempts by the former Minister of Transport Allison Madueke to get trailers (going into Tincan) off the highway and the former Minister of Works (what was his name again) to get tankers off the expressway at Ogere. Both were half hearted measures. It took the States involved to organise real action.

The truth remains that he who wears the shoe knows where it pinches. If Niger-Delta state governments were more pro-active to exploitation and environmental degradation by multi-nationals decades ago perhaps this militancy problem would have been averted. Lagos state government will not wait till arms are taken up by its citizenry when they get periodically roasted or crushed by dilapidated trucks. Is it not at this time that the Federal Government has extended the age of imported vehicles from ten to fifteen years. Did they consult with Lagos State - the state with the highest vehicular density - before doing this. Did they consider that this could undermine the state's efforts in maintaining its burdensome infrastructure or protecting its environment.

No, they went ahead because they are the almighty FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. To me this arm is overrated, insensitive and useless; and every well meaning state governor and government should put its people and their interests first. Be it security in Aba, environmental/infrastructure in the ND or road traffic in Lagos.

I look forward to a 2011 where states will slowly and tacitly pull away from the centre. Federalism might not be realised through the barrel of the gun but it will come by sound reasoning. No one is saying stay away from Lagos but simply conform to its rules after all some northern states prohibit the sale of alcohol in public places and where is the hue and cry.

Reference:

Though it can be potentially divisive,


No one is saying stay away from Lagos but simply conform to its rules after all some northern states prohibit the sale of alcohol in public places and where is the hue and cry.

First illegally confiscating property is not potentially divisive, it is guaranteed to be divisive.

The northern states did not confiscate fuel tankers meant to carry fuel to other states, had they done so, you would have heard more than a hue and cry.

johndoe200:

Enemy? Paranoid ? Monthly fuel shortage? Honey I don't know what you bin smoking but you need to take a break. You need to ASK people who live in this country about what is going on and then try and make intelligent comments. I decided not to respond to your ignorant questions because these kinds of discussions with people who live outside the country is usually a waste of time. They come up with all sorts of things that don't exist.

Educate yourself a little bit and maybe we can have a worthwhile informed discussion.

Were you trying to prove any of my statement wrong or were you just trying to be ignorant in some way? Again you are posting so much without really saying anything at all.

Focus, fuel shortage is not new to people so using it as reason why we should not pursue progress in anyway is ridiculous and simply fear mongering of the ridiculous kind. If you have a tangible point to make on this, make it already, or accept that I don't have to see things your way at all. By the way, I am not the only one on this thread who has so far expressed disagreement towards you. Not sure why you keep going from thread to thread as if I kill your life or something. Again, if you have a point to make, make it, or get over it.

Kobojunkie:


Were you trying to prove any of my statement wrong or were you just trying to be ignorant in some way? Again you are posting so much without really saying anything at all.

Focus, fuel shortage is not new to people so using it as reason why we should not pursue progress in anyway is ridiculous and simply fear mongering of the ridiculous kind. If you have a tangible point to make on this, make it already, or accept that I don't have to see things your way at all. By the way, I am not the only one on this thread who has so far expressed disagreement towards you. Not sure why you keep going from thread to thread as if I kill your life or something. Again, if you have a point to make, make it, or get over it.

Who is we? You should be more worried about what Obama is doing and leave us alone.

stranger:
^^^^

If you do not know: Kobojunkie is nuts

BTW, She lives in Chicago in the US, and somehow she knows and she is sure that there is fuel shortage in Nigeria every week

She is the craziest girl I have ever met in my life.

When this was posted I thought he was being unfair, but he seems to have got your number.

[size=13pt]N456 Billion Lost To Road Accidents Annually —FRSC[/size]


At least N456 billion ($3 billion) is lost to road accidents in Nigeria annually,  says the Federal Road Safety Commission, FRSC.

Disclosing this at the weekend in Lagos, South West Nigeria, Assistant Corps Marshal  and Zonal Commander in charge of Lagos and Ogun States, Mr. Aliyu Danjuma, said the  bitter truth is that $3 billion is lost annually to several crashes on Nigeria’s  highways.

Speaking at a one-day seminar to flag off road safety campaign, Danjuma lamented the  rising rate of road accidents in the country, saying it was sad that lives of people  were not valued in Nigeria.

He attributed the monumental killings on highways to carelessness on the part of  truck drivers and called for severe punishment for motorists who kill people  carelessly.

“The issue of safety is something we must all take seriously.  Do Nigerians value  lives? The FRSC cannot do this alone.  The success we have achieved in the area of  crash helmet came because we collaborated with the Lagos State Government. Nigeria  must take the lives of its citizens seriously.

“Draconian action should be taken against those whose action or inaction led to the  death of somebody else.  At least, $3 billion is lost annually to crashes in the  country.  At times, you will see new couple driving with their baby on their lap.   This is ignorant. Safety is something that all of us must embrace,” he said.

According to him, “We need enforcement. If people bring Tokunbo vehicles and refused  to maintain them, they should get off the road.  They should be punished.  Bad  driving is another problem we face.  There is need for NARTO, owners of these  trucks, to maintain them. Drivers have responsibilities to the populace.

“Don’t drive a vehicle when it is not in a good shape. LASTMA and FRSC should not  compromise in the area of enforcement. We want zero tolerance for accidents in  Nigeria.  It is only in Nigeria that you have conductors graduating to become  drivers.”

Speaking, General Manager, Policy, Government and Public Affairs, Chevron Nigeria  Limited, Engr. Femi Odumabo, emphasized that “when trucks break down, warning signs  like leaves, drums and stones are not visible at night,” adding that trucks should  have red and white tapes on it to enhance their visibility.

He stated that in order to minimize accidents on roads, truck drivers should be  conscious on the road.

Odumabo also advised drivers to be alert and avoid driving under the influence of  drugs and alcohol and keep speed appropriate to road conditions and traffic codes.

Mr. Alex Opene, Head, Truck Safety Initiative, Chevron identified the reasons  accidents involving tanker drivers were rampant in the state to include fatigue;  king of the road mentality; poorly maintained trucks; poor visibility; lack of use  of reflective tapes on body of trucks; axle load issues; poor load retention and  speed.

According to him, the use of retro-reflective tapes will enhance better visibility.  “Better visibility means few crashes and fewer fatalities.  Reflective tape is  proving to be very effective.  From study conducted by the United States National  Highway Traffic Safety Affairs, users of retro-reflective tapes on trucks can reduce  side and rear end crashes by 29 percent, especially at night,” he stated.

Mrs. Temidayo Ogan, Executive Director, Temidayo Organ Child Safety and Support  Foundation, an NGO, said the campaign would enable stakeholders take action and  build on the foundation laid by the Lagos State Government on improving safety in  transportation and haulage business in the state.

“It will help reduce the figure of nearly 1.3 million people who are killed  all over the world and another 50 million who sustain injuries as a result of road  traffic accidents,” she said.

—Kazeem Ugbodaga

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/12/06/n456-billion-lost-to-road-accidents-annually-%E2%80%94frsc/print/

Dis Guy:

^^ actually this sums its up, under this very serious state government one can procure a drivers' license by just paying the fees and snapping a pic voila!

The state government can address this issue first then make it mandatory that all drivers' actually go for a course
too many suicidal drivers in lagos

The above is of the FRSC. Does that seem one that is even working to improve the situation at all?

Speaking at a one-day seminar to flag off road safety campaign, Danjuma lamented the rising rate of road accidents in the country, saying it was sad that lives of people were not valued in Nigeria.

He attributed the monumental killings on highways to carelessness on the part of truck drivers and called for severe punishment for motorists who kill people carelessly.

“The issue of safety is something we must all take seriously. Do Nigerians value lives? The FRSC cannot do this alone. The success we have achieved in the area of crash helmet came because we collaborated with the Lagos State Government. Nigeria must take the lives of its citizens seriously.

“Draconian action should be taken against those whose action or inaction led to the death of somebody else. At least, $3 billion is lost annually to crashes in the country. At times, you will see new couple driving with their baby on their lap. This is ignorant. Safety is something that all of us must embrace,” he said.

According to him, “We need enforcement. If people bring Tokunbo vehicles and refused to maintain them, they should get off the road. They should be punished. Bad driving is another problem we face. There is need for NARTO, owners of these trucks, to maintain them. Drivers have responsibilities to the populace

this sums it up. maybe if the attackers of lasg lose their loved ones to a trailer with bad brakes , 8 of 12 tires functioning , 'clutch wey dey misbehave' they will understand

^^ actually this sums its up, under this very serious state government one can procure a drivers' license by just paying the fees and snapping a pic voila!

The state government can address this issue first then make it mandatory that all drivers' actually go for a course
too many suicidal drivers in lagos

there is an institute http://www.lasdri.org/ . . .but i dont know about making it mandatory sha

post modified: according to the faq http://www.lasdri.org/faqs.php it's even compulsory for all professional drivers to attend the course sef. . .private drivers could be referred to the institute if they are caught violating state traffic laws.

Cant say much about the implementation sha(even though i suspect it isn't really implemented)

Reference:

I look forward to a 2011 where states will slowly and tacitly pull away from the centre. Federalism might not be realised through the barrel of the gun but it will come by sound reasoning. No one is saying stay away from Lagos but simply conform to its rules after all some northern states prohibit the sale of alcohol in public places and where is the hue and cry.

Well said.

yes up fashola

Kobojunkie:

The above is of the FRSC. Does that seem one that is even working to improve the situation at all?

Sorry I don't really get this, you talking about the stats by FRSC. . .

oyb:

this sums it up. maybe if the attackers of lasg lose their loved ones to a trailer with bad brakes , 8 of 12 tires functioning , 'clutch wey dey misbehave' they will understand

I made sure any time we were stuck in traffic or on any motorway my uncle move away from trailer and those huge truck carrying containers, and i saw two that actually got stuck- on almost flipped over but was 'shocked' and offloaded quickly

The problem is Lagos is concentrating on revenue collection under the guise of traffic offence with LASTMA often for minor issues but on the whole they lasg can do a lot more within Lagos itself a huge percentage of cars in Lagos can be shipped or or made to undergo stringent test after all they have a database from M.O.T receipts
making laws that are not implemented is making no efforts at all

Dis Guy:

Sorry I don't really get this, you talking about the stats by FRSC. . .

You mentioned earlier having Lagos sit at a round table of some sorts with FRSC, am that article there tells you that even the agency does not seem serious about doing much to alleviate the problems in Nigeria, talk less of Lagos. They seem more content with having their annual ceremony to remember the dead, than they are about actually working to reduce the number of casualties.

Dis Guy:

The problem is Lagos is concentrating on revenue collection under the guise of traffic offence with LASTMA often for minor issues but on the whole they lasg can do a lot more within Lagos itself a huge percentage of cars in Lagos can be shipped or or made to undergo stringent test after all they have a database from M.O.T receipts
making laws that are not implemented is making no efforts at all

LASTMA extortion issues aside, this project is for WITHIN Lagos, not for outside of Lagos. Granted implementation is where issue end in Nigeria, but I still wonder if people understand what this idea is really about.

Also, with the recent removal of the ban on importation of older vehicles, I believe this is what we need now, and not later, because we are likely to witness an increase in number of death traps on our roads in the coming year.

There's got to be a better way to deal with this issue, Lagos interfering with federal inter state commerce is not the way. Imagine all the other states reciprocating and what about LGAs setting their own standards. Thought the federal govt own most of the trunk A roads that these drivers are using

Kobojunkie:

You mentioned earlier having Lagos sit at a round table of some sorts with FRSC, am that article there tells you that even the agency does not seem serious about doing much to alleviate the problems in Nigeria, talk less of Lagos. They seem more content with having their annual ceremony to remember the dead, than they are about actually working to reduce the number of casualties.

LASTMA extortion issues aside, this project is for WITHIN Lagos, not for outside of Lagos. Granted implementation is where issue end in Nigeria, but I still wonder if people understand what this idea is really about.

Also, with the recent removal of the ban on importation of older vehicles, I believe this is what we need now, and not later, because we are likely to witness an increase in number of death traps on our roads in the coming year.

No i'm not talking about those ceremonial round table, more of a Lagos led round table (with the usually offensive and perhaps some sort of aggressive stance) with FRSC getting a complimentary invite not necessarily to led- perhaps they will be forced to shape up even if it only in Lagos. And i'm certain many states in the SW will back their fellow ACN governor with massive support from the residents

DIS GUY VS. KOBOJUNKIE: LETS SEE WHO BLINKS FIRST

safariman:

There's got to be a better way to deal with this issue, Lagos interfering with federal inter state commerce is not the way. Imagine all the other states reciprocating and what about LGAs setting their own standards. Thought the federal govt own most of the trunk A roads that these drivers are using

I agree entirely. However no one has considered the resultant economic loss and hardship a petrol shortage due to a prolonged strike would cause.

Dis Guy:

^^ actually this sums its up, under this very serious state government one can procure a drivers' license by just paying the fees and snapping a pic voila!

The state government can address this issue first then make it mandatory that all drivers' actually go for a course
too many suicidal drivers in lagos

See where you got it wrong, Lagos State government does not issue driver's licenses but FRSC, which happens to be a federal institution.
I would have loved for states to be issuing it though as Lagos would be able to control of the blind people with drivers license in Nigeria. The issue is drivers license has been made a form of identity and thus almost everyone has to have one whether they drive or not. based on this, even blind people do get one to enable them make transactions in the banks 

Why is that cretin tresohunt spaming this thread?

Anyway, we are thankful that the country has had the wisdom to remove all these documents from the grasp of the states. Most laws made at state level are not rational.

Akainzo:

See where you got it wrong, Lagos State government does not issue driver's licenses but FRSC, which happens to be a federal institution.
I would have loved for states to be issuing it though as Lagos would be able to control of the blind people with drivers license in Nigeria. The issue is drivers license has been made a form of identity and thus almost everyone has to have one whether they drive or not. based on this, even blind people do get one to enable them make transactions in the banks 

many thanks for the correction, the way ive heard people talk about it is as if tehy are going to the local council or some pay someone who work at the LG to sort it out- cheers

The commissioner for transportation, Bamidele Badejo, during a ministerial briefing on April 8, said government noticed the situation and is working at correcting it.

“The state government is not comfortable with the activities of touts considering the enormity of their unacceptable activities such as issuance of fake documents and outright duping people of their hard earned money. Either way the members of the public are the losers,” the commissioner said.

“To stop these vices, the government is working on a programme designed to protect the interest of top executives and other members of the public who on the account of their schedule do not have the luxury of time to access MVAA’s products and who often times fall prey to touts. A programme for registration and certification of middlemen has commenced with MVAA, VIO and the Nigerian Police collaborating actively on this. The certified agents would fill the vacuum expected from total elimination of touts or illegal middle men.”

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sharp sharp

Long story short, she told me to give her N3,000 to avoid paying N50,000 if we went to the station. She danced along to Wande Coal’s “Bumper to Bumper” playing on my radio as I drove along, looking for a cash machine. I ended up giving her N2,000, and she advised me to make sure I carried my driver’s licence at all times.

The next day, I went to the driver’s licence office at Ojodu Berger. I walked in, asked a few questions, and was told to fill out a form. Regular licence fee was N5,000 and express would cost an additional N1,000. I did all that. A few hours later, I had my photo taken, and I was told to return the next week for the licence. No driving test, no proof that I could drive. So this is how all those lunatics on Lagos roads got their licences. I feel the bloating coming on already.

Licensed to kill 234next

^^^ see why this new State test might be a Godsend for Lagosians? If the state can at least ensure the vehicles are road worthy(i.e Brakes work fine etc), we might secure a few more lives make it to next Christmas than we were able to secure this year. 

actually, regular license fee is 3500 or something like that, not 5000(that's what i paid when i got my last license, anyone that pays 5 grand is being cheated).

and my younger bro had to do a driving test(yup, in naija, with a real FRSC official) before he got his license, dont know if it's because we didn't do it the 'normal' way sha. . .

teddyseun:

its really funny here ,how poeple are talking about the M O T as if  its M O T as it should be .
M O T here in Naija is just a piece of paper that cost 5000Naira more or less.if you have ever taken your car for MOT inspection here in naija please confirm it.

I just got a M. O .T . certificate on a car, it cost 1,800 naira and I sent someone there on okada. He came back in 45 minutes. This is naija, all the noise about test is just noise.