Hi Guys,

I would appreciate your contributions to the thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=554674.msg7273063#msg7273063.

ANSWERS ARE NEEDED TO THE FOLLOWING :

vedaxcool:

No, he did not approve of the copies that were in circulation during his life time.

[b]I found the below in the Quran, and it ONLY tells me that the TORAH and GOSPEL are valid as God will judge the Jews and the Christians respectively by them.

QURAN 5: 46 -48 ( Version: Sahih International)
46 And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.

47 And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.

48 And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.


. . . . and that the 'Books' were already with the Jews and the Christians (as at the time of Mohammed and the writing of the Quran)

QURAN 4: 47 (Version: Muhsin Khan)
O you who have been given the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Believe in what We have revealed (to Muhammad SAW) confirming what is (already) with you , before We efface faces (by making them like the back of necks; without nose, mouth, eyes, etc.) and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers. And the Commandment of Allah is always executed.



[b]I did not find anything in the Quran that says that that the 'Torah and Gospel' that the Quran refers to as what 'God will judge the people of the Book by' and that which 'was already with them' have been corrupted.

1. Have you got any scriptural proof that the 'Torah and Gospel' as referred to above as being valid before God WERE DISAPPROVED BY MOHAMMED? Please provide them. I will prefer proof from the Quran over proof from an Hadith given the number of times Muslims have told us of the unreliabilty of certain Hadiths on NL!

2. Please provide Quranic proof that the Torah and Gospel (that God will judge Jews and Christians by) as referred to in the scripture above was the 'corrupted' ones, or provide Quranic proof to show that the scripture refers to the 'uncorrupted' ones.

3. Please provide proof, Quranic (and Historical outside the Quran, if available) that the contents of the 'corrupted' books SIGNIFICANTLY distort the message of the original books, and cite instances from the ORIGINALS in comparison with the CORRUPTED.

4.  Please, also provide Quranic (and Historical outside the Quran, if available) that the 'corruption of the originals' ONLY as you have found and provided in answer to Q3 above are to the extent that adherents of the books abide by rules that cause them to live contrary God's commandments, and cite instances from the ORIGINALS in comparison with the CORRUPTED.

5. Please provide proof (Quranic) as to whether the 'Books' had been corrupted AS AT THE TIME the 'revelation of the Quran' was given to Mohammed or the 'writing of the Quran' OR that they were corrupted AFTER the 'revelation' and 'writing' of the Quran.



PLEASE REMEMBER TO AVOID as much as possible ANY DODGY HADITHS THAT CONTRADICT THE QURAN in answering the above. Proof outside the Quran should preferably be REFERENCED so as to allow participants and spectators to be able to examine the contents and the credibility of the originators.

Thanks in advance. [/b]

IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER:

All you need to do is simply answer in this order (please read post # 18 for the complete questions);

a. FIRSTLY, Show (with Quranic and Historical proof) whether the Torah and Gospel referred to in Quran 5: 46 - 48 and  Quran 4:47 are the ones NOT APPROVED BY MOHAMMED (as asserted by vedaxcool in post # 7)


b. THEN Show (with Quranic and Historical proof) whether the Torah and Gospel referred to in Quran 5: 46 - 48 and  Quran 4:47 are the ORIGINALS or the CORRUPTED

c.  THIRDLY, Show (with Quranic and Historical proof) how the CORRUPTED significantly distorts the message of the ORIGINALS

d. AND NEXT, Show (with Quranic and Historical proof) how the CORRUPTED has meant that the 'followers' are now living contrary to God's commandments in the ORIGINALS.

e. LASTLY,  Show (with Quranic and Historical proof) whether the ORIGINALS became corrupted BEFORE or AFTER Quran 5: 46 - 48 and  Quran 4:47 was 'revealed and/ or written

VERY SIMPLE. NO NEED TO COPY AND PASTE WHOLE PAGES FROM OTEHR WEBSITES. ARRANGE ANSWERS IN ORDER THAT MAKES THE ANSWERS TO EACH QUESTION EASY TO FOLLOW.

I will extract and 'summarise' all answers given to the questions from all posts received IF THE ANSWERS ARE IN THE POSTS.




ANSWERS TO BE POSTED HERE ONLY, PLEASE: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=554674.msg7273063#msg7273063.

Thanks,

seyibrown.