Faeb:

Doctors warning! Avoid thieves!

[size=14pt]Atiku was caught laundering a stolen[/size] [size=33pt]40 BILLION!!![/size] [size=14pt]. . .By US Senators!!![/size]

dappssee:

The opening post is malicious in intent.

It was obvious from the choice of words that objectivity was not displayed in typing those lines.

January is just next month. You'll all be wondering how GEJ did it.

How come this arrangement didnt work for the north in 2003 when it was OBJ versus a handful of northerners.

You must know the way politicians think in this country. For them its not about the north or the south, christain or muslim, as that is only a tactic to be deloyed to achieve set goals. The fight is for the rest of Nigerians on cyberspace and across the states. Its all about interests.

For them, there are only two classes, those in power and the pawns. The pawns get into religious fights, tribal wars and political skirmishes but those in power always look out for their interests

So get that in your head! Its not about tribe or religion but interest. Between GEJ and Atiku, the ticket will go to whoever has the immediate capacity to protect or serve the interests of the delegates. Kapish!

appletango:

let me tell you a little something about this current gej administration: ALL large government contracts are now being handled by people from Bayelsa state; the head of petroleum is a women from gej own village; he is in charge of one of the largest ministries in government: power; he will hand over power to a northerner in 2015 thus leaving the igbos out of office for a further 8 years; he is busy filling up the top positions in the military with people from his own zone, etc etc etc

so please tell me how this is in the best interest of those delegates/politicians/"businessmen" outside of the south-south? i laugh at the way the people around him are presenting gej as the "nigerian" candidate because he is anything but. you just go onto the street in the north, east or west and ask a few people on the street and you'll see what i mean.

oh, and let me tell you a little something about 2003 as you seem to be a little confused: obj went to prostrate in front of atiku on the eve of the primaries in order to secure the victory.

That was 1999.
By 2003, he was fairly in control.
That said, he still needed Atiku's help in 2003

stranger:

That was 1999.
By 2003, he was fairly in control.
That said, he still needed Atiku's help in 2003

stranger:

That was 1999.
By 2003, he was fairly in control.
That said, he still needed Atiku's help in 2003

appletango:

nope. he was rolling around on the floor in 2003. go read your history books young friend.

marvix:

The OP is highly unintelligent and must be politically naieve to think that the leader of the party would lose the primaries of his party.

The delegates from the north are politicians, just like the govs are, dont forget that it was a northern gov in d person of Gov Babangida Aliyu who said that zoning is not a political right but a political strategy, ponder on those words they should mean a whole lot to discerning individuals and these same northern govs had a vote for or against zoning and those against zoning had a slim victory, this goes to show you how politics is played in the north.

Those of us campaigning for Goodluck are doing so because we want fresh air and new air, most times when u put on the AC in a stuffy room the first air is not all that convenient but u relax because u know that the fresh air is about to be.

Jonathan to me represents a new brand of politics and a new set of political arrangement better than whatever Atiku can offer or any other PDP fellow.

A lot of us want the PDP out, but we dont know how to go about it, the only PDP president that will bow to our wish to leave the stage with his party in the nearest future is Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.

Those of us campaigning for Jonathan have nothing to lose If GEJ loses the primaries because it would boldly mean that the PDP has just stabbed itself in the chest.

That Atiku is in the PDP is because Jonathan allowed it, Jonathan was the leader of the party when Atiku staged his comeback Jonathan could have agreed to allow him return and deny him the waiver that has allowed him to be an aspirant in the PDP, because the PDP constitution is also clear on this for defecting members who choose to return, Jonathan could simply have impressed it on the NEC not to grant waiver, but granting the waiver has made the PDP temporarily stronger.

Jonathan has acted in good faith all along and remember he never disgraced their northern brother out of office during his health travails but instead bid his time and allowed Yaradua a peaceful passing, what even Atiku could not do.

That Atiku flies in and out of this country at will is because Jonathan allows it, that Atiku is contesting for the Presidency is because Jonathan allows it, that the govs of northern Nigeria still retain their seats is because Jonathan allows it, That they can sleep on their beds is because Jonathan allows it and this is a democracy, Jonathan would lose nothing if he loses the primaries or the general elections but we Nigerians are bound to lose more.

It is just simply impossible for Jonathan to lose the PDP primaries, he may not win but he definitely can not lose, can a party exist without his leader, impossibility.

Why are some people even calling on Atiku? what are his life achievements, he served in the customs, what is the customs today, he served as VP what was his impact on the nation, he was incharge of the PTDF and only northerners enjoyed PTDF scholarships while southerners didnot even know about all the scholarships available within the PTDF, sold off the ONNE port to himself, assisted OBJ in killing NITEL, NNPC, PHCN.

Instead of Atiku to win the PDP primaries we may as well consign PDP to history, a man without standing, a man without loyalty to party structures, a man who can walk out of his party when he is frustrated not even because of idealogies.

I know some people will run out to remind me that Ribadu is their man, my take has always been that Ribadu belongs to the future and his time would come naturally after GEJ, if he is impatient men like Sanusi Lamido will go ahead of him and Ribadu will become the Buhari of the future while he watches people he can do better than running things at the presidency.

January is not far, I am very confident that Jonathan would not lose the primaries Atiku would be on the move as soon as Jonathan secures the ticket, this is indeed beautiful for democracy, or does anyone want to make me believe that Atiku can win a free and fair contest in 2011.

eku_bear:

na wa o

appletango:

PDP died tonight. Let Jona have it. He can be captain of a sinking ship.

As far as everyone is concerned PDP is now a regional party of the South-South.

Just watch how many people jump ship in the up coming days.

OP
Thank you for your victory on PAPER. Let's see what happens on the battle FIELD!

appletango:

Fool.

If you think that the PDP are going to win the majority of votes in the South West, South East, North West and North East then you are - I'm not going to mince my words - silly.

I might give you a few states in the middle belt but they're not exactly populated areas. After tonight's events the MAIN urban areas (except PH) in this country will not vote PDP.

So tell me, where are PDPs votes coming from?

Remember it might be easy to control a few delegates but its going to be tricky to do it with 30 odd million people. Or are you gonna start giving N10m to 30m people??

appletango:

You should stick to watching MTV sweetie - men are speaking.

appletango: there are reasons why gej will never win the pdp primaries, talk less of the election proper. here they are:

northerners account for 50% of this country's population. how accurate these figures are is not for me to judge but those are the "official" government figures and in elections it's the "official" figure that counts. for all their perceived fragmentation they are still the most unified bloc in the country and always pull together as a group when the need arises. before zoning/PDP nigeria had 3 southern heads of state with a TOTAL accumulated office time of 3 years and 9 months out of a possible 39 years. since zoning/pdp southerners have accounted for 9 years out of a possible 12. without zoning every other region/ethnicity/tribe/whateveryouwanttocallit outside of the north wouldn't have a chance in hell of taking the office of president. (everyone knows that it is zoning that has put gej in this position. without it he would be still be a non entity from bayelsa. it really is just that simple. in fact its just basic politics 101. anyone who say's otherwise is just naive). the north now feel aggrieved that they have only had 3 years in aso rock out of the last 12 years and will use their population supremacy to reverse this trend in 2011.

now here is the [size=14pt]key bit[/size]: northern dominance in population also translates to the allocation of pdp delegates as well:

North-West 860
North-Central 640
North-East 520
South-South 610
South-East 490
South-West 670
Total 3790

make no mistake about it the PDP is a NORTHERN party (2220 vs 1770) and people thinking Jonathan is going to win the primaries are borderline lunatics - yes i'm talking to you here BEAF. so lets assume the guy dominates the south-south and takes most of the south-west (very far from certain) his MUST make huge inroads in the south east (very unlikely) and the north (never going to happen) to even make the race close.

but this is NEVER going to happen.

the man is a dead man walking and this is why he has spent his 7-month tenure scheming, plotting and bribing, rather than governing and leading. it's almost laughable how such a crude man (pun intended) from the south south thinks he can outwit the cunning of the north. it took obj a good 8 years to obtain a level of control over the party system and even then his dream of total party control was scuttled. how goodluck intends to do it with no political base as well as an agitated north is madness and will inevitably lead to his political suicide.

appletango:

For once beaf, I 100% agree with you.
RIP PDP

Beaf:

Yes, RIP the PDP of hegemonists, sectionalists, bigots, evangelists of violence, bomb makers, religious fanaticss, THIEVES, retards and dunces. That is the PDP you knew and the one you crave.

A new Nigeria is being born, it will be exciting to see your kind joust with the wind and defeat yourselves. Afterall, you are Ciroma's pack of Don Quixote's, parasites and ethnically blinded fools.

[size=21pt]Fresh Air 2011![/size]

jason123:

is this beaf? _{i am glad he said this!}