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Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by Jarus(m): 4:11pm On Dec 08, 2010 |
johnie: Me too dey laugh o Abeg who will help me translate my post in Hausa to him? who will help explain the difference between 'region' and 'tribe' to him in Hausa? Who will help ask him in Hausa that 'was Sunday Awoniyi not a Northerner, and Chairman on AREWA consultative forum? |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by jason12345: 4:15pm On Dec 08, 2010 |
Jarus: we all dey laugh ooo!! |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by aljharem(m): 4:28pm On Dec 08, 2010 |
Jarus:[/b] i ask why would a yoruba man become the chairman of arewa,,,,,,why,,,,,,,,,,why,,,,,,,,whhyyyyy is he a northerner,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,answer=NO but yet he is ruling us how can someone that knows nothing about the north be the one ruling the north i tell u yorubas are the ones ruling nigeria how can u explain sunday awoniyi ruling northerns has any northerner rule afenifere , yce or opc before sometime i think some of our northern leaders are dumb or blind to see this things i see even in SW universities no northerners has been the student president not to talk of leader even in kwara or kogi have northerners been treated well there,,,,,answer is no jarus pls can u explain why no northerner has been the leader of any yoruba organisation |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by Jarus(m): 4:35pm On Dec 08, 2010 |
I give up. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by tpia1: 4:43pm On Dec 08, 2010 |
al harem can you stop generalizing plz. i take it your railing is a political one, because most yorubas have no idea what you're talking about, i'm sure. even though your grouse is with jarus, you keep shouting yoruba this yoruba that. even in kwara or kogi have northerners been treated well there,,,,,answer is no kwara and kogi arent wholly yoruba states. Give specific examples of the regions and incidents you're referring to, if possible. as per hausa leading a yoruba organization- just because you dont know of any doesnt mean there are none. there are a lot of assimilated hausas in the south, and vice versa. most hausas in the south are into trade, so that's the first place you should look, imo. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by seanet02: 7:30pm On Dec 08, 2010 |
@jarus, can you prove how kwarans are hausas or Northerners? Dont try to tell me an old wifes tale |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by DapoBear(m): 9:39pm On Dec 08, 2010 |
alj harem is easily one of my favorite posters on this board Dude is awesome. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by aljharem(m): 2:29am On Dec 09, 2010 |
Jarus: pls do not give up because i am saying the truth why give u now after i say u are not a northerner talk to me i need u to talk to me pls talk too meeeee eee ee |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by isalegan2: 2:45am On Dec 09, 2010 |
Katsumoto:Great book. No Yoruba history anthology is complete without it. P.S. Correction - Got the above confused with "The Kingdoms of the Yoruba," by Robert Smith. Haven't read Johnson's book. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by DapoBear(m): 2:54am On Dec 09, 2010 |
The book is great, yes. Yoruba history is so exciting and interesting. But very sad sometimes. I sort of want to use it as source for a science fiction novel, lol. If you take the basic stories, expound on them and set them in space, it would be such a winner. Orson Scott Card (a Mormon author) did something similar with the Book of Mormon. It was only afterwards that I found out that it was his reinterpretation/rendition of a religious text. If you did this with Yoruba history (and were a good writer), you could probably get a NY Times best seller. Shango, Oduduwa, Moremi, Afonja, the series of wicked Yoruba kings, the various Yoruba wars, the founding of Ibadan. . . Really some great stuff. Too bad I'm not a writer. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by strangerf: 5:38am On Dec 09, 2010 |
isale_gan2: Not really. The book gave the Ibadan-centric version of Yoruba history; moreso, it was written by a lay historian. The guy has nothing to back up some of his claims. I'd read the book with a healthy dose of skepticism. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by DapoBear(m): 5:44am On Dec 09, 2010 |
strangerf:True and true. Not quite true, there are some other anthropologists and historians who have checked up on some of these claims. Check on JSTOR. Nothing wrong with that; you should do that with any sort of text like this. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by oludashmi(f): 9:01am On Dec 09, 2010 |
Jarus: @Jarus You and alj harem are saying the same thing but you are mis-interpreting each other. . .he is looking at the ethnic and cultural stand while you are looking at the geographical stand. He is obviously saying that he refuse to admit/recognise any yoruba to the north and middle belt (Kwara and Kogi) irrespective of the position they hold among northerners because they are just there for Nigeria's geographical reasons. Hope that is clarified. . .no argument. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by Katsumoto: 9:38am On Dec 09, 2010 |
strangerf: DapoBear: Then you need to read Professor Akinjogbin's 'Milestones and Social Systems in Yoruba History and Culture'. This book corroborates Johnson's book. Another good book is R. Lawrence's 'The Oyo Empire', though not as detailed as the other two books. Other good accounts include J.F. Ade Ajayi and R. Smith: Yoruba Warfare and Professor Bolanle Awe: Oxford Ph.D. thesis (1964) - "The Rise of the Ibadan Empire". These are all very good references; if you have the time. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by Akanbiedu(m): 12:41pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
@ Jarus I just dey pity you. Don't argue with a fool, he will just drag you to his level and then defeat you there. @Alj Harem You are big disgrace to Ahmadu Bello. Do you think the Yorubas in Kwara are begging you to be part of them? Ask Becomerich to show you how small you north will be if we use your definition. I don't have time to handle your case now sha. Eni a nwa sunje, to tun fi epo para, o tun joko segbe ina |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by aljharem(m): 4:48pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
Akanbi_edu: u are the big disgrace yorubaas mumu so u want to be northerners by force and yet u do not act like true muslims in any form mumu |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by strangerf: 4:58pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
Aboki Harem Let them hear it from you Dont back down to all these Yoruba goons ok? |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by safariman(m): 7:02pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
Ilorin sounds like a Yoruba sounding name |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by Pukkah: 3:44pm On Dec 10, 2010 |
safariman: Ilorin is a Yoruba name. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by aljharem(m): 3:52pm On Dec 10, 2010 |
Pukkah: gbam thank u si how is that a northerner state |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by strangerf: 3:54pm On Dec 10, 2010 |
Borno is a Yoruba name too. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by aljharem(m): 4:15pm On Dec 10, 2010 |
strangerf: how |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by Pukkah: 4:40pm On Dec 10, 2010 |
strangerf: Kindly tell what the meaning is in Yoruba. Thanks. |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by strangerf: 4:44pm On Dec 10, 2010 |
It means oponu |
Re: Saraki An Egba Man? by isalegan2: 4:50pm On Dec 12, 2010 |
Katsumoto: I've started to peruse books by A.B. Ellis. He wrote a number of historical accounts in the 1890s on Africa. I'm finishing one called "The Yoruba-Speaking Peoples of West Africa." I'd like feedback if you have an opinion of him. Thanks. http://www.sacred-texts.com/afr/yor/index.htm http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/006576980 |
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