BlindedIrony:
Hello,

As a diaspora living in the States, I want you to know that you are the world's most ridiculous idiot. What kind of insect made its way to your brain to whisper that diaspora regret living Nigeria??

I am 28 years old. I have a saying I adopted when I graduated in Nigeria and I could not find a job. It goes like this, "ANYWHERE , BUT NIGERIA." Now, you may ask why a former patriot like me says something like. Well, let's look at it this way. There are things I regretted about not getting out of Nigeria sooner than I did. A lot of diaspora (afew hundreds) told me the same. They are:

1) I am so glad I don't have to witness mob justices on innocent and accused peoples who don't have the opportunity to be trialed in court. You have a bunch of devoted religious people that will lynch someone today and tomorrow you will see them in churches smiling. It made me throw up many times when I was growing up.
2) I am so glad I don't have to see dead bodies on some Nigerian cities' streets on my way to work, school or to visit my friends. Sometimes, some of these corpses lay decaying for days, and people walk past them as if it is the norm! Well, I guess it is normal in Nigeria( Lagos, PH, NORTH, Onitsha... no city is excluded.)
3) I am glad the police doesn't harass me now just because I look and dress better than them.
4) It sucks that I had to spend 1/3 of my monthly salary just to charge my phone, and have electricity because of epileptic power supply.
5) I am so glad I don't have to be at bed at 10pm. In anywhere but Nigeria, cities are alive until the early hours of morning.
6) I don't have to put up with the Nigerian police inability to response to emergency.
7) Bank queues suck like hell there.
I no longer have to put up with mosquitoes on borrowed dracula teeth that suck the souls of hardworking men and women.
9) I don't have to lose my money to armed robbers now.
10) Armed robbers NO FIT come into my house here because American constitution gives all people rights to bear arms, unlike Nigeria where armed robbers fit come and command you for your house.
11) I don't have to take 11 classes in a semester. What am I a robot?? Here, the most are 4 classes per semester, and you can work too (full time and part time). Classes are very flexible.
12) I don't have to put up with professors who think they are better humans because they have degrees, yet their moral compasses are rusty and they beg me for money to grade my exams.
13) I don't worry about soldiers retaliating when they assault me because I can sue them now no matter their rank, and also they cannot come to my house because the Texan state law says I could shoot armed trespassers in my property.


There are million things we do not regret about leaving Nigeria. How on earth are we supposed to regret leaving a country that pays doctors 100K naira, when their American counterparts make $250,000 to $500,000 depending on surgery specialty?? It is people like you that often come up with very stupid diaspora shaming posts like this one. You cry of patriotism for a country that has never given me a kobo, taken my last kobo and deny me an opportunity to make a kobo! This is the Nigeria you want us to regret leaving.

Oh! As for regretting, I have no idea what you mean , but any diaspora can come back to visit and enjoy the culture whenever he or she wants. However, no one is going to leaving heaven for hell permanently, even if hell has the only fire that can roast yams.

both the speaker and deputy senate president all came back to Nigeria ....how much loan is owed by the u.s doctor at point of graduation? No where is haven...their lot of homless people in america almost 50m (this almost 30 percent of nigeria)....there are better countries like finland ,qatar etc

WeRblessed:



Would have been great, but unfortunately, I'm not residing in Nigeria.

Yeah but it doesn't matter. It doesn't stop us from getting to know each other does it?

I don laugh tire for this thread. Especially the last 3 pages

wizdomnzube:
Yeah but it doesn't matter. It doesn't stop us from getting to know each other does it?

It will be difficult, because I live in Los Angeles. Distance is far. Are you Igbo?

nairalanduseles:
None ......anhways in Nigeria now ladies holla

Hello sir, good evening. Hope your comment still stands if I wanna reach out?

Mrhonesty:
My regret is leaving Nigeria 18 years late. I started 2002. Trams, Trains and other transport systems are very OK, even at midnight. If you no even get work here, u are paid.
Nigeria can be better if we all change to do good and love ourselves.

They pay unemployed non citizens?

BlindedIrony:
Hello,

As a diaspora living in the States, I want you to know that you are the world's most ridiculous idiot. What kind of insect made its way to your brain to whisper that diaspora regret living Nigeria??

I am 28 years old. I have a saying I adopted when I graduated in Nigeria and I could not find a job. It goes like this, "ANYWHERE , BUT NIGERIA." Now, you may ask why a former patriot like me says something like. Well, let's look at it this way. There are things I regretted about not getting out of Nigeria sooner than I did. A lot of diaspora (afew hundreds) told me the same. They are:

1) I am so glad I don't have to witness mob justices on innocent and accused peoples who don't have the opportunity to be trialed in court. You have a bunch of devoted religious people that will lynch someone today and tomorrow you will see them in churches smiling. It made me throw up many times when I was growing up.
2) I am so glad I don't have to see dead bodies on some Nigerian cities' streets on my way to work, school or to visit my friends. Sometimes, some of these corpses lay decaying for days, and people walk past them as if it is the norm! Well, I guess it is normal in Nigeria( Lagos, PH, NORTH, Onitsha... no city is excluded.)
3) I am glad the police doesn't harass me now just because I look and dress better than them.
4) It sucks that I had to spend 1/3 of my monthly salary just to charge my phone, and have electricity because of epileptic power supply.
5) I am so glad I don't have to be at bed at 10pm. In anywhere but Nigeria, cities are alive until the early hours of morning.
6) I don't have to put up with the Nigerian police inability to response to emergency.
7) Bank queues suck like hell there.
I no longer have to put up with mosquitoes on borrowed dracula teeth that suck the souls of hardworking men and women.
9) I don't have to lose my money to armed robbers now.
10) Armed robbers NO FIT come into my house here because American constitution gives all people rights to bear arms, unlike Nigeria where armed robbers fit come and command you for your house.
11) I don't have to take 11 classes in a semester. What am I a robot?? Here, the most are 4 classes per semester, and you can work too (full time and part time). Classes are very flexible.
12) I don't have to put up with professors who think they are better humans because they have degrees, yet their moral compasses are rusty and they beg me for money to grade my exams.
13) I don't worry about soldiers retaliating when they assault me because I can sue them now no matter their rank, and also they cannot come to my house because the Texan state law says I could shoot armed trespassers in my property.


There are million things we do not regret about leaving Nigeria. How on earth are we supposed to regret leaving a country that pays doctors 100K naira, when their American counterparts make $250,000 to $500,000 depending on surgery specialty?? It is people like you that often come up with very stupid diaspora shaming posts like this one. You cry of patriotism for a country that has never given me a kobo, taken my last kobo and deny me an opportunity to make a kobo! This is the Nigeria you want us to regret leaving.

Oh! As for regretting, I have no idea what you mean , but any diaspora can come back to visit and enjoy the culture whenever he or she wants. However, no one is going to leaving heaven for hell permanently, even if hell has the only fire that can roast yams.

Please show me the way out of here... Feel stuck

WeRblessed:




It will be difficult, because I live in Los Angeles. Distance is far. Are you Igbo?

Yes I'm Igbo, from Imo State. But let's leave here first, it's a public forum.

Ehmmm... Let me clear some misconception about the US that some people who have never been there believe. First thing first:

1) The number of homeless people in America is ACTUALLY 552,280, not 50 million like an idiot here mentioned earlier. This is exactly the data on whitehouse.gov. These data are accurate (unlike the numbers our Nigerian politicians throw around). American employment, social, disabled and other social data are gotten from social security and other records. An example goes like this: Say the American population is 350 million (twice Nigerian population, yet one of its 50 states called Texas is bigger than Nigeria), and one person gets a job, sick or disabled, the government track this because it is the only way people are helped. So there you go, folks, 552280 homeless people out of 327 million population. Not bad at all, right?! I was impressed too, so I took classes during my college years on how it happened to fully understand it.
2) There are so many jobs opportunities that they are constantly allowing hundreds of thousands of people into their country to fill the job vacancies. If you know anyone that moves to the US and he or she has problems finding a job, that is because they came with a visitor's visa. So, they overstayed and they wouldn't go back. You can't get a job (white or black) without a social security number (SSN). So, the jobless Nigerians you know here probably came with student visas or visitors. That's illegal when they try to work; when they do, it is probably shitty jobs like car washes where they are paid under the table (no tax). When they are discovered, they get in trouble along with the company that employed them. However, the Nigerians who came through the legal way- immigration visas are ALWAYS GAINFULLY employed. I have not met the so-called jobless Nigerians here, and I am yet to see one looking for a job. I know hundreds of Nigerians- all educated professionals or students.
3) There is NO SUCH THING AS OPEN DISCRIMINATION. This is not the pre-1960s. There is subtle racism or bias, but it is individuals. Mostly, few uneducated whites; not just afew whites, other races have afew people with bias and racism (Y'all have seen the videos). Americans revered industrious, educated and socially people. As long as you are these, Americans will LOVE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU. My first job here, my boss fired a co-worker (white) because he gossiped about my accent and African background. In college, I had many of the San Antonio College smartest students who adorned me because they taught I was smarter than them. God knows we were all in the same shoes. All my professors liked my Nigerian heritage. It got to the point where I got a scholarship (he was not qualified for) and a campus job for a warri student on student visa. I just talked to my history professor about the student's academic performance, and the professor was very eager to meet him. After a conversation to ascertain the young man's character, the professor was impressed. My warri friend got the scholarship. The campus job was later in his second year.
4)Most Americans have more than $1000 in their accounts, not less than $1000 like someone said here. I will tell you why. Most Americans have very good paying jobs. The population has very poor people in their midst, but most of these poor people are not like the poor people of the third world societies- they are trained technicians (some- not all). They can afford cars, meals and other necessities just like the rich and the middle class can afford. The only difference is that they can afford the cheap versions or small versions. In fact, there is an American joke that the poor can afford exactly the same things as the rich, just the smaller version. Example: A toyota corolla vs. a Mercedes benz. Understand?
Let me explain better. America has society classes (also called tax or income bracket): Upper class ($1,000,000 and above annual income), Upper Middle class ($80,000 to about $900,000 annual income), lower middle class ($30,000 to $70,000 annual income), lower class ($8,000 to $29,000) and poor (less than $8,000). The latter and former are usually confused, but they are not the same. Majority of Americans are middle class. They save a lot of money too. The reason why some may have less than $1000 in their account is because they have IRAs or other variety of retirement funds. When you have a job here, you set up a retirement fund where you contribute a TINY portion of their wages. The TINY portion is invested in stocks, mutual funds, trusts, and other financial packages. 64.8% of Americans own a house! Google it. That's 209,280,000 homeowners out of its 327,000,000 million people. I know people paint America as bad, but you have to be here to see for yourself.
5) Some said Chicago is bad. Well, it has a crime rate slightly higher than other cities in the US but not like the bad you see on movies. Every city has a low income side aka ghetto. However, the funny part is this low income part looks like the best developed part of Nigeria . The only difference is that the crime rate is high and it is the low income part of town. They still have electricity and social amenities like the rest of the city. The difference is that it is the low income part of town lol You won't even know until someone tells you, and also perhaps the cheap-looking houses.

Well... I guess that completes it. This is the only country I know where citizens of the most developed nations are trying to get into. Germans, Japaneses, English, French and so on lol I can tell you this because I saw many of them when I went in to swear on citizenship ceremony. People keep saying Nigeria is not bad, but you don't know how Nigeria is until you move out of it. I had PTSD for afew years after I moved here because the only thing separating my house from my street is just an inch of glass. My Nigerian mentality kept thinking armed robbers were going to break in. This is my 6th year, and I still take 1am or 2am walk when I can't sleep at night. That's how secure the country is.

Also, in case of fire or emergency, it takes 4 mins for firemen or police to come to you. It CANNOT exceed 4 mins. It is the same anywhere in the US. Oh! Before I forgot, I made $11.25 per hour in my first year as a new immigrant with no friends or family. After tax, I brought home about $25,000. And it was a shitty job lol all I did then in 2014 was greet people from 9am to 5pm with 3 breaks! Pay was biweekly, twice a month plus federal law says no one can work 40 hours per week or else, the company will pay you your regular wage + half your wage per hour (back in 2014: $11.25 + $5.63 per hour). IMAGINE WHAT IT IS NOW AS A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL! You still think we regret leaving Nigeria??

What is there to miss in Nigeria? The Nigerian people are here- the restaurant (the better version), culture and cultural festivals. If we miss the culture too much, we come back home and flex , then go back home. Ever wonder why majority of American citizens (from all countries in the world never go back to live permanently in their native countries? Man abeg pack aside.

wizdomnzube:
Yes I'm Igbo, from Imo State. But let's leave here first, it's a public forum.

Oh okay. My mother is from Imo State as well. Thank you.

FutureFocus:
Romania is not on my list in Europe, Sweeden, Finland, UK, Germany are good in Europe, and I so desire US, Canada and Australia even more.

It is he who have eaten to belleful will appreciate eating meat... That's the secret most people don't know.. This European countries you just mentioned are difficult to get into but using other smaller European countries serves as a back door.. No European country will ever deny you visa so far you are in Europe with an European vaild resident permit

VolvoS60:


^^^
I will refer you to my response to another poster on this thread. He also mentioned "freedom". You need to accept the simple truth that (in forward thinking societies) your freedom to live by your own rules and standards will always be greatly restricted by other people's rights. As long as we live with and around other human beings, our "freedoms" will always be constrained. There is no getting around this basic truth.

There's a lot to unpack from your statement about being able to live comfortably in Nigeria with far less than you would require in other countries (I assume here you are referring mostly to high income, industrialized countries). Have you factored in exchange rates? Are you referring to the buying power of a minimum wage earner in Nigeria versus the buying power of a minimum wage earner in these other countries? There's a lot at play here.

You mentioned "average people" (I assume this means middle class) having 3 maids, 2 drivers, a gateman and a laundry man. That statement is quite controversial - particularly when statistics (IBRD, AfDB, Ipsos, etc.) show Nigeria's middle class is anything between 14% to 20% of the population. How far can you go when your middle class is less than one fifth of the population? Perhaps even more important, how much wealth can this middle class actually create? Those maids, drivers, gatemen and laundry men you referred to - what is their economic status? Are they living or just existing?

There are other stats we should be just as concerned about. I'm sure you are aware of the report (though controversial) which shows that over half of Nigeria's population lives below the poverty line. Other stats show that over 10 million children of school age in Nigeria are NOT in school. There is a costly war in North Eastern Nigeria that has left nearly 40,000 dead and over 2 million displaced. There is an illegal but highly lucrative trans-border movement in small light arms and ammunition that is feeding the extremely volatile security situation within Nigeria. And so on.

Our problems are very serious. We minimize them at our peril.

I know when someone is writing from diaspora as against someone writing from within the country. I guess you have not been in the country for a while for most of your statements are based on text book stats and analysis. Same useless textbooks stats that predicted Nigeria will disintegrate by 2015 . Your views are different from reality even though you backed them up with doctored stats. Middle class population is much higher than14% and whether you believe it or not, we are not the poorest country in the world, these are politicized assumptions.

Exercising my freedom is a fundamental human right which the West knows and advocates on paper but they still control everything about your existence, trapping you in a merry-go-round system of work and paying taxes until you drop dead, a system that serves the lazy ones of their society appropriately while sending the hardworking ones to ER on a regular basis, especially as the stress of aging begins to take its toll

WeRblessed:



Oh okay. My mother is from Imo State as well. Thank you.

Yeah I think you mentioned something like that in your previous comments. You also mentioned that she has been teaching you our language.

majormofor:

Y use USA when u can use canada

Thanks for your reply bro! I really appreciate.....Canada go make sense too but it's expensive I guess....well when I said Finance isn't my problem...omo no be for student visa oooo....I meant I can afford the Visa fees , Flight fee, BTA and other associated cost of traveling...but for school fee I no fit afford that one o

majormofor:

Y use USA when u can use canada

Anyway... do you have any other ideas about Canada I would be very much willing to listen

majormofor:

Y use USA when u can use canada

Anyway... do you have any other ideas about Canada and how I can get in Legally I would be very much willing to listen

fairfora:
I cannot imagine myself living outside Nigeria...for what? After schooling there I came back home. Now, I'm planning to buy a home for my family in Toledo so that each time we visit, we wouldn't have to lodge in hotels. A part of the house would be rented out. My family and I can visit anytime without the hassle of looking up hotels around town.

Yes...like the saying goes that "One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison"

We've all been created differently to follow and choose things differently in life.

lordally:


Anyway... do you have any other ideas about Canada I would be very much willing to listen

canada, Sweden south Korea make sense
Leave USA for now
Assuming I know u earlier I would have tell u about USA student visa program usually done at the embassy

PregnantlySingu:
Hello sir, good evening. Hope your comment still stands if I wanna reach out?

Were re u

ahiboilandgas:
both the speaker and deputy senate president all came back to Nigeria ....how much loan is owed by the u.s doctor at point of graduation? No where is haven...their lot of homless people in america almost 50m (this almost 30 percent of nigeria)....there are better countries like finland ,qatar etc

They came back to Nigeria because they saw an avenue to loot our commonwealth. Gbajabiamila was a hardened criminal, was it not recently that he used his office to bury a case against him?
See this country is beyond salvage, if you're opportuned to leave for greener pastures, please do. The past and the current crops of politicians in this country are hardened criminal.
Just take a look at the likes of Dino, Akin Alabi ,Sina Peller, Yahya Bello and the likes. They don't have anything to offer. Absolutely nothing

Mizwisdom:

I know when someone is writing from diaspora as against someone writing from within the country. I guess you have not been in the country for a while for most of your statements are based on text book stats and analysis.

^^^

There is nothing 'diasporan' (if that word exists) about me. I was born and bred here - and I'm still here. When I joined this platform I was in Nigeria. And I'm still here!

Why would you have a problem with statements based on textbook derived stats and analysis? You would rather have me conjure them from thin air? The facts (and the truth arising therefrom) will indeed make us free! Your formal education must have had a syllabus and recommended textbooks. Did you reject those books as utter nonsense and outright falsehood?

Mizwisdom:

Same useless textbooks stats that predicted Nigeria will disintegrate by 2015 . Your views are different from reality even though you backed them up with doctored stats. Middle class population is much higher than14% and whether you believe it or not, we are not the poorest country in the world, these are politicized assumptions.

^^^
I haven't said anything about disintegration. At least not yet.

I have stated my data sources. And I mention them fully aware of the limitations of statistical databases and data gathering in a 3rd world country. But you haven't mentioned a single data source or reference of your own - not even our own statistical bureau. Are you just trolling when you describe my views as unreal, or my statistics as doctored?

Mizwisdom:

Exercising my freedom is a fundamental human right which the West knows and advocates on paper but they still control everything about your existence, trapping you in a merry-go-round system of work and paying taxes until you drop dead, a system that serves the lazy ones of their society appropriately while sending the hardworking ones to ER on a regular basis, especially as the stress of aging begins to take its toll

^^^
I see you have a problem with how Western countries are run. And that's fine. I also do not believe their societies are the gold standard. But a discussion about capitalism, social democracy, the welfare state etc. is a different discussion for another day. As for freedom - I have said all I need to say about it in prior posts so there's nothing for me to add.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt in this discussion - I hope this wasn't just a trolling exercise for you.

Spanishmilf:
canada, Sweden south Korea make sense
Leave USA for now
Assuming I know u earlier I would have tell u about USA student visa program usually done at the embassy

Well it's late now Sha!!! sweden and south Korea go cost ABI?

lordally:


Well it's late now Sha!!! sweden and south Korea go cost ABI?

No

Spanishmilf:
No

Making sense! what route? student Route?

lordally:


Making sense! what route? student Route?

That the best way to migrate legally

Spanishmilf:
That the best way to migrate legally

Any idea on how much Sweden and South Korea would cost??

2ndly , can one work and school in South Korea at the same time?

3rdly after schooling in South Korea, can you stay permanently?