the message is obviously for Muslims. may the christians just ignore it?

oh no. they just cant deal with hearing anything good about Islam,d way the majority of Muslims practice it.

They would rather hear of the Islam of the boko haram. that way,christianity may appear good.

I could care less what you christians think of Islam. I am more concerned about my Muslim brethren practising it right.

Hope the last ten days is going on good peeps. dont forget to seek the pleasures of Allah,ask for forgiveness and remember d girl hiding behind 'deols' in prayer.

mmmustapha: mind ur language who invite u fool

You are surely tolerant!

maclatunji: Maybe some of you guys are not used to active moderation. When you post on the Islam for Muslims section, kindly consider the topic and only post if you have a germane contribution.

If it is about your long held "disrespectful opinions of Muslims" kindly keep them to yourself. In addition, post must not contain insulting and vulgar words.

Thank you!

It's on the home page. Muslims trying to sell peace in Nigeria, hard one.

deols: the message is obviously for Muslims. may the christians just ignore it?

oh no. they just cant deal with hearing anything good about Islam,d way the majority of Muslims practice it.

They would rather hear of the Islam of the boko haram. that way,christianity may appear good.

I could care less what you christians think of Islam. I am more concerned about my Muslim brethren practising it right.

Hope the last ten days is going on good peeps. dont forget to seek the pleasures of Allah,ask for forgiveness and remember d girl hiding behind 'deols' in prayer.

great post!

tbaba1234: In the Name of Allah, the compassionate, the merciful

Let’s first remind ourselves, that our Prophet (peace be upon him), the single most perfect man in history, had the following done to him

People physically assaulted him.
People threw stones at him.
People threw dirty intestines on him whilst he was praying.
People threw their dirty garbage on him
People abused him
People killed his loved ones
People tried to give him poison in his food
They laughed at him, Mocked at him
They made fun of Him
He lost His two teeth in the Battle of Uhd

Has someone ever thrown stones at you? Have you ever had dirty garbage thrown over your head? Yet somehow our aggressive reactions would lead someone to believe as if someone has actually done this?
So the question is, whom should we follow when something like this happens?

Let me give some examples. For people who are reading this and are into IT and Sports. If you wanted a successful IT business then you will follow the careers of Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, as they have done incredibly well in the IT field. If perhaps you wanted to become a professional footballer, you might follow how Cesc Fabregas or Messi play, as again they are among the best footballers in the world.
So what is our end goal? It’s obviously to reach Jannah and the way to do this is to try to follow the life of our Prophet (peace be upon him) If we try to study him, act like him, perform the Sunnah then we have a good chance of achieving our goal.

When someone insults Islam or our Prophet (peace be upon him), or Allah, of course we all hurt, but what I witnessed a few days ago, was perhaps worse. A barrage of abuse from Muslims to the offenders swearing and insulting back. Did our Prophet act like this? Of course not, so by acting in this way are we really defending our faith or weakening it? I feel we are weakening it, we are showing just how weak we can be.

Did our Prophet lose such control? Engage in such filthy language? We all know certain people hate unconditionally, and in this case, it was a group of young teenagers who were spouting such hate, but we also know, or should know that many non Muslims respect Islam, respect Muslims, but when they see us defending our faith in such a violent aggressive manner, what must they think?

Once when the Prophet was being physically abused in Taif, he was bleeding from having stones thrown at him, Angel Jibraeel came to him and said the Angels of the Mountains can crush these ignorant people between the mountains, should you wish O Muhammad.

Bleeding from head to toe and battered and exhausted, the Prophet (peace be upon him) was faced with a choice; should he or should he not seek to destroy the people who had just humiliated him by having their children chase him out of town while throwing stones at him? And for what crime? All he had wanted to do was convey the message of the One God to His creation and seek benefit his own people.

However, although they hurt him, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) looked beyond his own wounds and forgave them, replying to the angel of the mountains he said,
‘No, do not destroy them, for I hope that Allah will bring out of their offspring people who worship Him alone without associating any partner with Him in worship.
What a beautiful excellent response. Look at the humility. The control.

The way you respond to insults has an impact on the actual image of Islam. So lose this anger, lose the bad language and become an advert for Islam. Ignore the ignorant who hate unconditionally, if someone criticises Islam and you feel you can have an intelligent conversation with them, then do so politely, they will think so differently of you, even if they don’t agree, they will respect the way you have conducted yourself.

You will promote Islam much more effectively this way if you control yourself.
That’s real faith.

Allah subhanahu wa ta’ala says what means in the Quran,
“Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant”.

He subhanahu wa ta’ala also says what means,
“And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: ‘To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant.’

Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) said
“The strong is not the one who overcomes the people by his strength, but the strong is the one who controls himself while in anger.”(Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 135)

Asalamu aleikum



http://islamgreatreligion./2010/12/18/how-to-behave-when-someone-insults-islam/

so islam has this peaceful orientation yet wherever they reside their neighbours dont experience peace.to the extent that they are now known as a violent sect and they want to go to jannah.

@OP

May Allah reward you for calling us to his path and reminding us to the SUNNAH of the prophet muhammed {saw}. May HE continue to put our feet firm in the DEEN, increase our knowledge and let us hold on to his rope till the day of Al kiyamah. May Allah also accept our fast, forgive our sins and reward in manifold our Good deeds.amin

May Allah reward you for this effort - Ameen.

You are leading a life of elusion.Talking about BH insurgency has nothing to do with religion but politics cause Islam teaches PEACE.The culprits are just disguising under religion of Islam.If ur assumption holds true.Why would muslims be a victim of the ugly insurgency?Think twice b4 u let ur sentiment over-rides ur sense of reasoning.Islam is a religion that has a fundamental rule governings its affairs unlike others without established and verified facts.

The best response to anybody who slanders or insults another person's belief-system is to simply follow these advices:

usisky:
Traits of the Righteous:

[25:63] The worshipers of the Most Gracious are those who tread the earth gently, and when the ignorant speak to them, they only utter peace.

[7:199] You shall resort to pardon, advocate tolerance, and disregard the ignorant.

[41:34] Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend.

These are the commandments of the Most knowledgeable....PEACE!!

A very revealing thread, and article. I'm a christian, but i've always had respect for islam and its adherents. And for those of us who continue to cast aspersions at this noble religion even in a tranquil platform like this one, i advise that you desist from doing that anymore. We all can't be Christians or Atheists and whoever created this earth knows that

I saw this in one of the Islamic Hadiths - This should tell us some things about the TRUE life of Mohammad:

A man came to Allah's Apostle while he was in the mosque, and he called him, saying,"O Allah's Apostle! I have committed illegal sexual intercourse".The prophet turned his face to the other side,but that man repeated his statement four times, and after he bore witness against himself four times, the prophet called him, saying, "are you mad?"the man said "No". The prophet said, "Are you married?"The man said, "Yes". Then the prophet said, "Take him away and stone him to death". Jabir bin Abdullah said, I was among the ones who participated in stoning him and we stoned him at the Musalla. When the stones troubled him, he fled, but we overtook him at Al-Harra and stoned him to death.
Source: Sahih Bukhari Volume 8,Book 82, Number 806.

The old testament is different from the new testament. You will NEVER see the word Christian in the Old testament. The word Christian was FIRST used in the New Testament in Acts 11:26 when the people saw that the life of the disciples of Christ was similar to the life of Christ himself. CHRIST-ian.

Christians are to follow the life and teachings of Jesus Christ while Muslims are to follow the life and teachings of Mohammad.

Prof kenny: I saw this in one of the Islamic Hadiths - This should tell us some things about the TRUE life of Mohammad:

A man came to Allah's Apostle while he was in the mosque, and he called him, saying,"O Allah's Apostle! I have committed illegal sexual intercourse".The prophet turned his face to the other side,but that man repeated his statement four times, and after he bore witness against himself four times, the prophet called him, saying, "are you mad?"the man said "No". The prophet said, "Are you married?"The man said, "Yes". Then the prophet said, "Take him away and stone him to death". Jabir bin Abdullah said, I was among the ones who participated in stoning him and we stoned him at the Musalla. When the stones troubled him, he fled, but we overtook him at Al-Harra and stoned him to death.
Source: Sahih Bukhari Volume 8,Book 82, Number 806.

we can compare the above judgement of Mohammad with the Judgement of Jesus below:

4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

;;;;

^ The authenticity of the Jesus with the adulteress story is highly doubted; It is not contained in the earliest manuscripts....

Jesus followed the Jewish law completely and lived by the customs....

Biblical scholars are nearly all agreed that the Story of the Adulteress (also known as the Pericope Adulterae or the Pericope de Adultera) usually printed in Bibles as John 7:53-8:11 is a later addition to the Gospel.

http://www.bible-researcher.com/adult.html

It is a nice story but the textual integrity of the story is highly doubted, seems like a later addtion to the text..

Marginal annotations of various versions

American Standard Version (1901). Marginal note: "Most of the ancient authorities omit John vii. 53--viii. 11. Those which contain it vary much from each other."

Revised Standard Version (1946). 7:53-8:11 given in the margin, with the note, "Most of the ancient authorities either omit 7.53-8.11, or insert it, with variations of the text, here or at the end of this gospel or after Luke 21.38." Since 1971 the section is printed as ordinary text, with the note, "The most ancient authorities omit 7.53-8.11; other authorities add the passage here or after 7.36 or after 21.25 or after Luke 21.38, with variations of text."

New American Standard Version (1963). "John 7:53-8:11 is not found in most of the old mss."

New International Version (1973). "The most reliable early manuscripts omit John 7:53-8:11." Later editions of the NIV have, "The earliest and most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53-8:11."

New King James Version (1980). "NU [that is, the United Bible Societies' Greek text] brackets 7:53 through 8:11 as not in the original text. They are present in over 900 mss. of John."

How do we even know about Jesus when the integrity of some of the stories is highly doubtful?

Jesus followed Judaic law and was a jew, He never heard the word christian. The Quran confirms what is true in the previous scriptures...

^Some of these guys are petty and don't know what research means. They just consume materials from anti-Islamic websites and come and dump them here. No independent verification, just copy and paste, "dem dey go, I dey follow." To make matters worse, they have egos larger than Mt. Everest and it is over what? Not much.

#LOL

If Jesus so followed Judaic Law as said by tbaba1234, why did he say the following:
Mt 5:43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate
thine enemy.
Mt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them
that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mt 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans
the same?
The same can be seen also in the gospel of Luke chapter 6 verses

32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.

34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye?for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.

35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the
Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

Prof kenny: If Jesus so followed Judaic Law as said by tbaba1234, why did he say the following:
Mt 5:43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate
thine enemy.
Mt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them
that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mt 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans
the same?
The same can be seen also in the gospel of Luke chapter 6 verses

32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.

34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye?for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.

35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the
Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

The above is against the teachings of Mohammad who commanded you to fight those who fight against you. Now, were they sent from the SAME God?

Prof kenny:
The above is against the teachings of Mohammad who commanded you to fight those who fight against you. Now, were they sent from the SAME God?

Against the teachings? Id just give you one ayah, that should settle that...

Good and evil cannot be equal. [Prophet], repel evil with what is better and your enemy will become as close as an old and valued friend, (Surah 41:34)

Tbaba1234, when was surah 41 revealed? abrogation anyone?? Do not start quoting peaceful verses here. Surah 9 abrogated the peaceful verses.

Abrogation and the abrogated...You're not dealing with ignorant people.e on this thread.

Surah 41 was revealed in Mecca. Mohammed and Islam were not a force then...

^ I am sorry but your statement is ignorant and you are ignorant about Islam.... Every ayah of the Quran has its context...

The Quran is tied together into a cohesive argument....

tbaba1234:

Against the teachings? Id just give you one ayah, that should settle that...

Good and evil cannot be equal. [Prophet], repel evil with what is better and your enemy will become as close as an old and valued friend, (Surah 41:34)

That means the teachings of your prophet are contradictory!!!, in one encouraging peace and the other advocating violence by fighting those who fight against you.
Quran 22:39-40
Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ...".

Prof kenny:
That means the teachings of your prophet are contradictory!!!, in one encouraging peace and the other advocating violence by fighting those who fight against you.
Quran 22:39-40
Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ...".

Permission to fight does not contradict the ayah;

You fight when you are being fought; If you enemy does nothing to you; you are obliged to treat him well...

This thread is for muslims, it is advice for muslims.....

Prof kenny:
That means the teachings of your prophet are contradictory!!!, in one encouraging peace and the other advocating violence by fighting those who fight against you.
Quran 22:39-40
Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ...".

These people. . . . .
Nothing is contradicting anything there. The verse was directed to a specific group of people now. Anyone with half a brain should be able to see that.

@Prof Kenny:

by Prof kenny(m): 7:18pm

tbaba1234:

Against the teachings? Id just give you one ayah, that should settle that...

Good and evil cannot be equal. [Prophet], repel evil with what is better and your enemy will become as close as an old and valued friend, (Surah 41:34)


That means the teachings of your prophet are contradictory!!!, in one encouraging peace and the other advocating violence by fighting those who fight against you.
Quran 22:39-40
Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ...".

Prof Kenny, i do hope you know that the human has a natural instinct to self preservation and survival? No one can endure pain except that he reaches a breaking point that he show signs that he can not endure it any further. He therefore will go into survival mode to prevent any further piling up of about by either running away, fighting back or simply avoid more pain as it were before.

if I are now permitted to do something now, people of insight will think before now you were not permitted, even though it wa necessary that you do so or not necessary yet to do so. either way, if it was fighting those who have been fighting you, how do you see your new condition being permitted to fight back as being contradiction to you being peaceful by nature or that suddenly you are now a violent person?

Those who advocate turning the other cheek do not often observe it especially when they perceive the pain that will come will dishonor them. They resort to preemptive strike before any strike or strike harder that what they received or dont take the strike without showing that it came with overwhelming pain that disorient them, so much so that you wonder why pretend to be the another cheek turner when you will disrespect everyone, including the One Who did not inflict pain on you.

I see fighting those who fight you are the most humane of all strategies that can be proposed in peace or war time, even if you are a giant or weakling.