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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by AppDevt: 3:05pm On Mar 07, 2020
NGpatriot:
It beats me why they praise their useless and incompetent people, especially okonjo who colluded with Jona to steal our security fund and gave it to Dasuki to share with their cronies.

Okonjo and Jona were practically borrowing hundreds of billions every month to pay salary up a few days before PMB.

When oil was selling for $77, okonjo declared austerity measures, imagine her action with oil selling for $27, probable auction off Nigeria.

SA's economy is inside trash, they are in a recession while Nigeria's economy is full steam ahead as the largest economy in Africa.

SA can have that useless and incompetent woman, she can teach them how to steal money for sharing, she can teach them how not to diversify and instead declare austerity.

Good riddance.


She is board of directors of so many American companies ; Twitter etc, she is a consultant to many countries ,

The present AFDB president says “she is a jewel for Africa”

She is gold

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by 0m0nnakoda: 3:05pm On Mar 07, 2020
AppDevt:



How much was dollar when she was there ?
The economy was very good , people were not starving ; she worked hand in hand with minister of agriculture,


I will say only 3 of her legacies , she had over 50

Mrs Ngozi started the Sovereign Wealth Fund, a company she put 1 billion dollars and got Nigerians from Havard to run it as a profitable venture for “ future generations “

They call it Future generations savings . The place is still run well and in Abuja . This government has borrowed money from there .

She brought “you win “ to encourage young entrepreneurs and was on merit . So many hi bless youths with great ideas were given seed funding and were monitored very well from start to finish .

She kept saying we should save , but the governors headed by Oshiomhole took her to court saying “ they want to share the money” , and they kept sharing the excess crude funds against her wish .
What happened to the dollar in the last months of her tenure?
Immediately oil prices crashed she was found out, she started to borrow to PAY SALARIES.


True or false?
Youwin ko TooSure ni

The SWF was started unlawfully and is unnecessary
She had started reborrowing already, massively so we did not need a bogus SWF if we were going to be borrowing

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by kotv: 3:09pm On Mar 07, 2020
seunmsg:


What the current minister has achieved is not the subject of this thread. This thread is about Ngozi Okonjo Iweala and her audio appointment as head of South Africa economic advisory council. That woman couldn’t achieve anything as head of economic management team when there was an unprecedented boom in the price of crude oil, it will be a disaster bringing her back to manage our economy at this point in time. Kemi Adosun took us out of recession, Ngozi should help SA out of their recession.

Kemi did what? The woman that made a mistake in a simple mathematics even though her education is in fiance did what? That's just funny. Make no mistake Nigeria got out recession because oil prices increased. Likewise, I believe Buhari government inflated our economic activity as well as reserve with the billions they kept borrowing also played a part. Hence, despite we are technically out of recession, things are still highly inflated as if we aren't.

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by SundayIgbanke: 3:12pm On Mar 07, 2020
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NGpatriot:






By the time the useless woman left office, she's trashed our economy so bad that she was borrowing hundreds of billions every month to pay FG worker's salary.

Sad..
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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by SundayIgbanke: 3:13pm On Mar 07, 2020
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NGpatriot:
It beats me why they praise their useless and incompetent people, especially okonjo who colluded with Jona to steal our security fund and gave it to Dasuki to share with their cronies.

Okonjo and Jona were practically borrowing hundreds of billions every month to pay salary up a few days before PMB.

When oil was selling for $77, okonjo declared austerity measures, imagine her action with oil selling for $27, probable auction off Nigeria.

SA's economy is inside trash, they are in a recession while Nigeria's economy is full steam ahead as the largest economy in Africa.

SA can have that useless and incompetent woman, she can teach them how to steal money for sharing, she can teach them how not to diversify and instead declare austerity.

Good riddance.
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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by APCNig: 3:18pm On Mar 07, 2020
useurkidney3121:
Good one madam Ngozi,
Buhari crooners will not like this,
Moral of d story: Always appreciate what u have.

Appreciate money spender. Zero infrastructure, zero development but Diezani, Mama Peace, James Ibori, Asari Dokuboh, Tom Ateke, Donald Duke, Genga Daniel and others became billionaires. Never again will executive criminals like Ngozi Okonjo-Iwealla get near our treasury. She ran our Economy into recession, but Kemi Adeosun brought our Economy out of recession.

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by kotv: 3:20pm On Mar 07, 2020
edoairways:

Was there recession in the first place? There have been argument by some economist on whether Nigeria had recession. Some are of the opinion that the country neither had it since they were skeptical about it

Nigeria definitely had a recession. The reason there's skepticism among some economist is because though we are technically out of recession, there's no change. Things still remain the same as it was when we were in recession. Personally, I disagree that we are out of recession as I've yet to see any changes since we supposedly escaped it but rather, inflation continues. But since I'm not an economist, I have to go by what they report.

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by trutht828: 3:22pm On Mar 07, 2020
SpecialAdviser:
Great. I really wished Buhari swallowed the humble pie and appointed this woman into his cabinet.

Everything cannot be politics of bitterness. Good people that can help your government should be considered irrespective of party affiliation.

It is "eat the humble pie"; not "swallow the humble pie"
Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by gwafaeziokwu: 3:22pm On Mar 07, 2020
0m0nnakoda:


We entered recession BECAUSE of oil prices.
Do not mix it up.

Manufacturing was never that big a contributor to growth.

Oil prices are important in Nigeria because government spending is the largest single driver of GDp and government borrowing determines interest
The oil price crash IMMEDIATELY impacted exchange rates and produced sharp inflation as a consequence.
Nigeria has always been a major importer so you manufacturing theory makes no sense.
What changed in the manufacturing sector in 2015 that was not happening in 2014 or 2013?

When the global crude oil prices dropped, the forex reserves also dropped due to over reliance on the sector, but the nation failed to devalue its currency which led to the shortage of forex earnings to fund imports. This, however, made investors struggle to get forex for their imports.



Given that the nation could not explore other investment opportunities for the production sustainability of the economy, the FPI and FDI investors got frustrated over the shortage of foreign exchange to pay for raw materials and machines, so they eventually left the market. When that happened, the value of production, which is the major function of GDP, began to fall.

The investors who decided to stay had to pay significantly more for these imports because of the high cost of production materials.

No doubt, the ripple effects of this which include, 2-digit inflation rate – cost-push inflation – which has developed immunity against the central bank’s monetary policy rates and soaring unemployment rate is evident in Nigeria’s economy today.



Since then, the economy has witnessed a hiccup in its production capacity, thereby causing a steady drop in GDP. The economy recorded negative growth in the first quarter of 2016, which led the economy into recession for the first time since a full-year recession in 1987.

Apparently, the reason for the recession was not of the fall in oil prices or poor saving culture as many perceived, but by the lack of sound economic policy to create alternative foreign exchange earnings such as the non-oil exports.


This is the cause of the 2016 recession. Our manufacturing sector was dead therfore we rely on imports. When you deny the few manufacturing guys the necessary foreign exchange to thrive then you are looking for trouble.

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by sulaak(m): 3:25pm On Mar 07, 2020
DModeCntStopMe:
shocked

Woman of substance!

This is the calibre of personalities that should in govt

But because of the nepotistic inherit nature of the dictator cum jihadist, bright minds like madam Iweala have been sidelined

Names like mungono, kyari, karu, etc...are what we see in every position, folks whose speciality and expertise are needed in anything that has to do with cows

God bless you our darling mummy.

Keep waxing strong ma, while the shithole keeps retrogressing

She left Nigeria with $63 billion debt and less than $28 billion in foreign reserves, according to her she was doing what IMF advised. She destroyed all her good work under OBJ government when for whatever reason she became the GEJ default deputy president with two portfolios in finance and economic planning with no development strategy beyond sharing oil money between the states and federal government.

NB: Before you start raining PDP and APC tribal insults on my fragile head, Iweala was much better the accountant Kemi Adeosun or the confused and limited Zainab Shamsuna Ahmed, but what does that say about Nigeria democracy despite earning more than $700bn over the past 15 years with $110 billion debt.

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by Thonypadua(m): 3:27pm On Mar 07, 2020
CSTR2:

You bought bag of rice for N18000.
That is what Ngozi did.

That is economics 101 for dullards.
And what was the market value of our goods then?
That's economic 101 questions for unreasonable student.
Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by Anaedo1: 3:28pm On Mar 07, 2020
johnmartus:
She put Nigeria in to a recession then. The evil being called okonjo iwella continue working for whites to make Africa country poor.

A fool will always show himself..

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by Yankee101: 3:31pm On Mar 07, 2020
And APC won't humble itself to tap from proven reserves of Mrs Ngozi

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by Anaedo1: 3:31pm On Mar 07, 2020
Tmb78:
My dear,don't mind the bigots.
Let them continue typing trash like they have acute amnesia.

Hahahahaha.. The Lagos Ibadan press will always show themselves but unfortunately the world knows the truth..

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by gwafaeziokwu: 3:33pm On Mar 07, 2020
APCNig:


Appreciate money spender. Zero infrastructure, zero development but Diezani, Mama Peace, James Ibori, Asari Dokuboh, Tom Ateke, Donald Duke, Genga Daniel and others became billionaires. Never again will executive criminals like Ngozi Okonjo-Iwealla get near our treasury. She ran our Economy into recession, but Kemi Adeosun brought our Economy out of recession.

Oga thus is beyond partisan politics. Kemi Adeosun brought recession by her inability to take charge of the economy. Allowing Buhari to create artificial dollar scarcity that drove away foreign direct investments. Ngozi left in May 2015, but recession hit us in 2016. If Iweala is responsible for the recession then she can also be said to be the finance minister in 2016.

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by Tmb78(m): 3:34pm On Mar 07, 2020
Anaedo1:


Hahahahaha.. The Lagos Ibadan press will always show themselves but unfortunately the world knows the truth..

Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by dalass(f): 3:37pm On Mar 07, 2020
Ausrichie:

Gbam tell the boy. Buhari just tried everything he could to frustrate and remove Kemi but she dey high levels while we are here borrowing 22billion make dem kukuma borrow 1trillion na.

Abi o.. No mind am.....

Make.them borrow trillions and share everyone because I know the only intention they have is to borrow and chop...
They will leave the debts for a southern president to come and pay
Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by Dollabiz: 3:39pm On Mar 07, 2020
Hmmm
Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by victorazyvictor(m): 3:48pm On Mar 07, 2020
INTEGRITYA1:
Ramaphosa must have invited her for the advice on their Economy.

No! He invited her for coronavirus.
Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by Qoko: 3:48pm On Mar 07, 2020
Righteousness89:
We don't value our own! So others make use of them
Tyranny is when your country has issue and you don't provide or profer advice to your country but thank God Nigeria was out of recession without her input, you can't eat your cake and have it arrogant Ms Okonjo
Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by ebilomaofficial1: 3:51pm On Mar 07, 2020
Yimu! what did she do to help our crumbling economy while she was here? help loot offcurse..

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by 0m0nnakoda: 3:54pm On Mar 07, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:


When the global crude oil prices dropped, the forex reserves also dropped due to over reliance on the sector, but the nation failed to devalue its currency which led to the shortage of forex earnings to fund imports. This, however, made investors struggle to get forex for their imports.



Given that the nation could not explore other investment opportunities for the production sustainability of the economy, the FPI and FDI investors got frustrated over the shortage of foreign exchange to pay for raw materials and machines, so they eventually left the market. When that happened, the value of production, which is the major function of GDP, began to fall.

The investors who decided to stay had to pay significantly more for these imports because of the high cost of production materials.

No doubt, the ripple effects of this which include, 2-digit inflation rate – cost-push inflation – which has developed immunity against the central bank’s monetary policy rates and soaring unemployment rate is evident in Nigeria’s economy today.



Since then, the economy has witnessed a hiccup in its production capacity, thereby causing a steady drop in GDP. The economy recorded negative growth in the first quarter of 2016, which led the economy into recession for the first time since a full-year recession in 1987.

Apparently, the reason for the recession was not of the fall in oil prices or poor saving culture as many perceived, but by the lack of sound economic policy to create alternative foreign exchange earnings such as the non-oil exports.


This is the cause of the 2016 recession. Our manufacturing sector was dead therfore we rely on imports. When you deny the few manufacturing guys the necessary foreign exchange to thrive then you are looking for trouble.
She had 4 years and failed to prepare unlike the biblical Joseph in Egypt.

The reason for recession was over reliance on oil.
We saw it across weak OPEC countries like Venezuela
Russia was prepared and prospered in spite of sanctions.
We had the same experience in 1983 so she should have saved and diversified.
Instead she supervised unprecedented looting


Do not deceive yourself
She failed to diversify the economy or give useful advice on how to prepare.

She did not save and passed the buck to governors for claiming what was rightly theirs.
54 % of the Excess Crude Account belongs to the Federal Government.
Why did she spend that without appropriation? Did the governors force her to spend the FG share?


The reality is she was a failure

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by PicLtd: 3:54pm On Mar 07, 2020
NGpatriot:
It beats me why they praise their useless and incompetent people, especially okonjo who colluded with Jona to steal our security fund and gave it to Dasuki to share with their cronies.

Okonjo and Jona were practically borrowing hundreds of billions every month to pay salary up a few days before PMB.

When oil was selling for $77, okonjo declared austerity measures, imagine her action with oil selling for $27, probable auction off Nigeria.

SA's economy is inside trash, they are in a recession while Nigeria's economy is full steam ahead as the largest economy in Africa.

SA can have that useless and incompetent woman, she can teach them how to steal money for sharing, she can teach them how not to diversify and instead declare austerity.

Good riddance.

Yoromuslim, you can simply write your epistle of lamentations to Ramaphosa.

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by 7lives: 4:11pm On Mar 07, 2020
SA don enter one chance, very soon dem go begin take foreign loan to pay salary.

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by Focusmind: 4:13pm On Mar 07, 2020
For your information, she is the head of South Africa's Economic Advisory Council.

She is not just a floor member or just invited. She was made the head by the South African president

Unlike what we have in Nigeria where good brains are made floor members while incompetent ones because of their connections are made chairmen and secretaries.

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by gwafaeziokwu: 4:15pm On Mar 07, 2020
0m0nnakoda:

She had 4 years and failed to prepare unlike the biblical Joseph in Egypt.

The reason for recession was over reliance on oil.
Do not deceive yourself
She failed to diversify the economy or give useful advice on how to prepare.

She did not save and passed the buck to governors for claiming what was rightly theirs.
54 % of the Excess Crude Account belongs to the Federal Government.
Why did she spend that without appropriation? Did the governors force her to spend the FG share?


The reality is she was a failure

Subjective reasoning. Her competence drives you crazy that I could see. Oil prices started falling since 2014 but she held the economy together,because she was an expert. She never denied investors and manufacturers the needed foreign exchange to boost the non oil sector which is the only cushion to the dwindling oil revenues.

She wisely did not create a panic in the financial market in order not to scare off investors. That was her role as the minister.

Her YOUWIN programme was modelled after German small scale industrial growth. She identified cottage industries as the only remedy to our shortcomings in manufacturing sectors. You train 100 people, 100 train 1000, 1000 train 1,000,000 etc. Today all around me I see the ripple effect of that programme everyday. Unemployed women who now manufacture Liquid soap, disinfectants, chocolate beverages, handcrafted hats and fascinators, bags, shoes, etc.

Cottage industries running in homes!!

Buhari had only one job; to sustain this economic model and block any loophole occasion by corruption. Instead he threw it out of the window and replaced it with a socialist Npower that only grant temporary relief but is economically non sustainable in the long run.

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by oilPUSSY(f): 4:16pm On Mar 07, 2020
Bragalane:


This is how MY bigoted father hated the IGBO tribe till he perished like the wretched soul that he is, I have decided to thread his path n I can't wait to see MY unborn generation's wail of sorrow agony n anguish when I perish in likely manner soon.

A BIG AMEN

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by NGpatriot: 4:16pm On Mar 07, 2020
AppDevt:



She is board of directors of so many American companies ; Twitter etc, she is a consultant to many countries ,

The present AFDB president says “she is a jewel for Africa”

She is gold


Look at this one, who cares whose board she's on? She can be on the board on the moon as long as that incompetent and money diverting woman is not anywhere near our money and our economy.


They can keep her..

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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by 0m0nnakoda: 4:20pm On Mar 07, 2020
gwafaeziokwu:


Subjective reasoning. Her competence drives you crazy that I could see. Oil prices started falling since 2014 but she held the economy together,because she was an expert. She never denied investors and manufacturers the needed foreign exchange to boost the non oil sector which is the only cushion to the dwindling oil revenues.

She wisely did not create a panic in the financial market in order not to scare off investors. That was her role as the minister.

Her YOUWIN programme was modelled after German small scale industrial growth. She identified cottage industries as the only remedy to our shortcomings in manufacturing sectors. You train 100 people, 100 train 1000, 1000 train 1,000,000 etc. Today all around me I see the ripple effect of that programme everyday. Unemployed women who now manufacture Liquid soap, disinfectants, chocolate beverages, handcrafted hats and fascinators, bags, shoes, etc.

Cottage industries running in homes!!

Buhari had only one job; to sustain this economic model and block any loophole occasion by corruption. Instead he threw it out of the window and replaced it with a socialist Npower that only grant temporary relief but is economically non sustainable in the long run.

So in summary her greatest achievement is YOUWIN?
Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by SundayIgbanke: 4:27pm On Mar 07, 2020
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NGpatriot:



Look at this one, who cares whose board she's on? She can be on the board on the moon as long as that incompetent and money diverting woman is not anywhere near our money and our economy.


They can keep her..
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Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Meets Ramaphosa, Advisory Council Over South African Economy by 0m0nnakoda: 4:31pm On Mar 07, 2020
One of her legacies is tens of thousands of GHOST WORKERS

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