baralatie:
it is a simple message traditional rulers should stay away from politics. or else govt will remove you without batting an eyelid

TylerDurden:


Then Politicians should stop courting them for their support and blessings.

I don't subscribe to the rule that Traditional rulers should stay out of politics neither do I subscribe to the fact that they should be so blatantly partisan like the current idiot occupying Oba of Lagos throne.

They are entitled to their vote and also their constitutional guaranteed right to advocate for any candidate of their choice.

However, both Sanusi and Oba Rilwanu of Lagos are idiots who desecrated their positions to run amok in the mud with dirty politicians.

baralatie:

unfortunately traditional do not have a vote to give in elections.they are meant to be apolitical.
traditional rulers don't have constitutional guarantees to advocate for political office or persons vying for office.

if you go through history it is full of records traditional rulers who got killed,removed or having their domains destroyed because things like these.

googi:
I agree with those who think traditional leaders should feign their loyalty to political leaders. After all, they are people too with empathy for politics. They should always position themselves as neutral so that all political parties can pay homage to them.

Oba Sikiru Adetona is a case in point.

As for Oba Adeyemi and Awolowo, where are those who think one Oba Adeyemi had a role in the whooping cough (Pertussis) of Bode Thomas. Did he have a role in poisoning Bode Thomas, which people thought was some supernatural power.

Apparently, the supernatural power could not touch Awo.

If any Oba is found guilty of murder, he faces calabash i.e death.

TylerDurden:


In the case of this Oba, he was dethroned because he refused to play partisan politics.

Awolowo had convinced many Yoruba Obas to ask the newly elected Yoruba MPs under the NCNC to defect to the AG.

This Oba refused to get involved.

After AG emerged the majority via cross-carpeting and Awolowo became the Premiere, he wasted no time sacking this Oba.

Awolowo introduced so much bitterness and rogue politics in Nigeria.

googi:
I hate to argue the details with you because you are basically right but Awolowo did not introduce bitterness into politics.

How can you say that about a man that threatened the status quo by establishing Opposition Party in the North and East based on grassroots campaigns?

Who else did ever since? Save your bias for Awo to yourself, biko.

TylerDurden:
Awolowo dethroned him because the Oba was sympathetic to NCNC and was a strong confidant of Herbert Macauly.

If Herbert Macauly had not died before the parliamentary elections, the tribalist Awolowo would have not smelt power.

The foolishness of Zik, on the other hand deserves another thread on its own.

TylerDurden:


Listen to me... the trio of Awo, Zik and Sarduna where the worst thing to happen to this country. They were all equally guilty of mismanaging Nigeria's newly acquired independence.

But what I know of Awolowo is that he introduced the following to Nigerian politcs which if you check where endemic to the SW region in the 60's.

1. Cross carpeting

2. Tribalism

3. Desecration of Traditional stools for political gain and support

4. Thuggery and ballot box snatching

5. Politics of bitterness

6. Godfatherism

TylerDurden:


Listen to me... the trio of Awo, Zik and Sarduna where the worst thing to happen to this country. They were all equally guilty of mismanaging Nigeria's newly acquired independence.

But what I know of Awolowo is that he introduced the following to Nigerian politcs which if you check where endemic to the SW region in the 60's.

1. Cross carpeting

2. Tribalism

3. Desecration of Traditional stools for political gain and support

4. Thuggery and ballot box snatching

5. Politics of bitterness

6. Godfatherism

googi:
You just revealed yourself. No point arguing with you.

Awo remains the best that ever happened to Nigeria for most of us from the former Western Region that Included some parts of South-south.

googi:
You just revealed yourself. No point arguing with you.

Awo remains the best that ever happened to Nigeria for most of us from the former Western Region that Included some parts of South-south.

Subduer:
Kindly explain the foolishness of Zik. As a solid advocate of One Nigeria, Zik's slogan was Show the Light, that others may follow, intelligently, not sheepishly.

Strength by googi: 7:42pm On Mar 16
Things started going wrong in the West when Awolowo moved to Lagos thinking he could do for Nigeria what he did for the West.

The height of his success came when Action Group he led became the official Opposition in the North and the East by campaigning for Free Education and Free Healthcare.

However, Awo was not a politician. Politician do not tell you upfront why they want your votes. Chief S. L. A (Akintola) warned him where to pitch his tent. He insisted on working with Zik of Africa. After all, both of them understood the struggle for Independence under Herbert Macauley than anyone else.

The Election of 1959/60 for Independence could have kept Nigeria on course as a Regional Power with Azikiwe as Executive Prime Minister and then retained a clause to opt out of Nigeria if any Region so desired. Azikiwe rejected both from Awo. Rightly or wrongly today based on the fact that he did not want to isolate the North. They have been working with the North since. Akintola was right

Guess who do not want Yoruba to work with the North lately?

Nevertheless, the West remained the power House of the Country attractive to all Africans.

Some other Yoruba became suspicious like SLA. Whenever some of the people from the East were offered jobs and promoted based on MERIT by Yoruba employers or Oga, all their hires become Igbo.

Even recently, Yoruba landlords were renting to Igbo out of greed because they were willing to pay whatever was demanded for as long as five years!

However, it would be their last rent. So when Igbo tenants started complaining of discrimination in Lagos and some parts of the West, they were right!

Until Nigerians return to hard work, honesty, accommodation and tolerance throughout the Country, not only in the West; the Country will not only break, our next generation will perish!

If anything, the West stands a better. chance of going back to its Western Region days when meagre earnings from Cocoa and ingenuity created the First In Africa. There is no greater curse on Nigeria than Oil Money that destroyed the livelihood of farmers and fishermen.

Enough insults about Yoruba did or did not do this on their own LAND

TylerDurden:


I will speak the truth and if it bothers you it is your problem and not mine


Awo, Zik and Sarduna were disasters.

BETWEEN BODE THOMAS AND OBA ADENIRAN ADEYEMI: WHEN A MAN BARKS TO DEATH

Oba Adeniran Adeyemi II, was Alaafin of Oyo, between 1945 and 1954, until he was forced into exile by the Action Group led government of the Western region, as a result of the death of the Deputy leader of the Action Group, Chief Bode Thomas and also for having sympathy, for the rival NCNC of Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe.

Chief Bode Thomas (1918-1953) became the deputy leader of the Action Group, he later formed Nigeria’s first indigenous law firm called- Thomas, Willams, Kayode and co. i.e. the trio of Bode Thomas, Chief Rotimi Williams and Chief Remilekun Fani Kayode.

Bode was a brilliant lawyer, but also very haughty and arrogant. He was made the Divisional Council Chairman in 1953, while the Alaafin of Oyo was a mere member. On his first appearance in council, after being appointed chairman, all the council members stood up for him in deference, to welcome him except Oba Adeyemi II, who for cultural reasons, could not show deference to anyone in public. Bode Thomas rudely shouted at the king, for having the temerity and audacity to disrespect him. “Why are you sitting when I walked in, you don’t know how to show respect?”At that time, Bode Thomas was 35 years old and Oba Adeniran was in his 60’s. The Alaafin felt very insulted and nonplussed; he said “se emi lon gbomo baun?” (Is it me you are barking at like that?). Oba Adeniran just told him “Ma gbo lo baun” (continue barking).Oba Adeniran Adeyemi II, was father of the incumbent Alaafin, Oba Lamidi Olayiwola Adeyemi III.

The confrontation happened on November 22nd 1953. Bode Thomas got home and started barking! He barked and barked like a dog all night until he died in the early morning of November 23rd 1953.

He cut short his promising career. Oba Adeniran Adeyemi II, was thereafter deposed and sent on exile in 1954 for sympathizing with opposition NCNC, because he had come in conflict with Bode Thomas who was Deputy Leader of the Action Group, before his untimely death. In fact at a session in the parliament, Sardauna Ahmadu Bello had described Thomas as “Arrogant and ungracious”. Oba Adeniran Adeyemi II, was sent on exile to Ilesha and later relocated to Egerton Street on Lagos Island where he lived and died in 1960. His death truncated the ambition of Lamidi Olayiwola Adeyemi, to proceed to the United Kingdom to study law. He later became an Insurance Executive with the Royal Exchange Assurance, where he worked until he ascended the throne of his forefathers, as the Alaafin of Oyo in 1971.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/03/obas-go-exile/

AreaFada2:

The dreamer Zik who believed in one NIGERIA.

Subduer:


And Zik's DREAM of One Nigeria is now a reality, being frustrated by tribalism.

valarmorghulis:

I think Zik justified alafin's removal by making Igbo head almost every organisation in western Nigeria, yet u called awolowo a tribal bigot

Banmeallday:


Reality where?For night clubs in Lagos?

Subduer:


And Zik's DREAM of One Nigeria is now a reality, being frustrated by tribalism.

labansin:
Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the political leader of the old western region of Nigeria was not a friend to the old Alaafin of Oyo, oba Adeymi Adeniran
Oba Adeyemi was playing friendship with the NCNC an opposition party to the Action Group, a party set up by Chief Obafemi Awolowo.


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