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Black people don't understand the world!! That's right! How the hell are they going to understand the world now when they have all kinds of religions, which take away their creative powers, right up their behind?

- How can black people understand the world when they do not know how to take responsibility for the way they want to live?
- How can they understand the world when they spend their entire existence clinging on to the frocks of all kinds of "african gods", including jesus, jehovah, mohammed and allah?
We have no power of our own, they say! Only jesus can do it for us, they say. Only allah can help us only if we can just stick our face on the dirty floors in worship 5 times a day, they say.
- How can black people understand the world when they have been stuck up in a tiny box all their lives with nothing but tunnel vision?
-People who believe solely on some gods to come down from heaven to help them do anything and everything cannot be expected to build seafaring boats. It takes self-belief to do that.

The pastor says that blacks need to talk to jesus. Is that not THE problem? Where is the jesus that blacks need to talk to? Is he the same one that has not been here since almost two millenia? Is that the one? Well, i wish them goodluck in their "discussions" with him.

Black folks are Zap.e.d, alright, and that includes the pastor himself.

Thank goodness for Ghana!!

^^^^Yes, Ghana. Forgot about those people. Very technologically advanced and scientifically accomplished black folks. Don't they build their own ships and commercial planes? The other black african nations are very proud of them and should imitate them.

Jenwitemi:

Black people don't understand the world!! That's right! How the hell are they going to understand the world now when they have all kinds of religions, which take away their creative powers, right up their behind?

- How can black people understand the world when they do not know how to take responsibility for the way they want to live?
- How can they understand the world when they spend their entire existence clinging on to the frocks of all kinds of "african gods", including jesus, jehovah, mohammed and allah?
We have no power of our own, they say! Only jesus can do it for us, they say. Only allah can help us only if we can just stick our face on the dirty floors in worship 5 times a day, they say.
- How can black people understand the world when they have been stuck up in a tiny box all their lives with nothing but tunnel vision?
-People who believe solely on some gods to come down from heaven to help them do anything and everything cannot be expected to build seafaring boats. It takes self-belief to do that.

The pastor says that blacks need to talk to jesus. Is that not THE problem? Where is the jesus that blacks need to talk to? Is he the same one that has not been here since almost two millenia? Is that the one? Well, i wish them goodluck in their "discussions" with him.

Black folks are Zap.e.d, alright, and that includes the pastor himself.

Jenwitemi:

^^^^Yes, Ghana. Forgot about those people. Very technologically advanced and scientifically accomplished black folks. Don't they build their own ships and commercial planes? The other black african nations are very proud of them and should imitate them.

Hellooo  hope u are henjoying your holidays?

I'm  not sure what the point u are making is. Are u sayin that if black people didn't believe in God or god's they would be technologically advanced and build chips and boats  and rocket launshers? What are u said?

Pastor manning at his best. . . .Obama is a love-vendor nigga and a mack daddy. . . .

Krayola:


Hellooo  hope u are henjoying your holidays?

I am, indeed. Thank you. I hope you are,too.

Krayola:

Are u sayin that if black people didn't believe in God or god's they would be technologically advanced and build chips and boats  and rocket launshers? What are u said?

I am saying that if the black people believe much more in themselves and their God-given creative powers, they would be as technologically and scientifically accomplished as any race on the face of this planet. Believing that a God or gods exist does not have to alter that. It only depends on what comes with the belief and how the belief is taken onboard.

The way blacks believe in God is totally disastrous. We think that believing in God has to include the surrendering of our self belief and our natural creative powers to "him" and then rely entirely on this God to provide everything we need because this God is supposed to be almighty father in heaven that is merciful enough to provide us with whatever we need in this life. This just absolutely catastrophic way of belief. The terrible consequences of which we are all seeing today.  The black race can't do jack without the white race who, btw, are the real Gods of the black race.

I believe in a creator God, but i do not subscribe to surrendering my creative powers to any bagger in the name of religion. Something which world religions like christianity and islam are always demanding. All you have to do is pay close attention to what their priests preach from the pulpits and how they interprete their respective scriptures and you will see this quite glaringly. The worship of african traditional gods does exactly the same thing. Blacks are just existing with a very very very bad operating software. We've got the hardware, but the software is horrible and the consequences of this cannot be denied by anyone with even half a brain.

Jenwitemi:

I am, indeed. Thank you. I hope you are,too.
I am saying that if the black people believe much more in themselves and their God-given creative powers, they would be as technologically and scientifically accomplished as any race on the face of this planet. Believing that a God or gods exist does not have to alter that. It only depends on what comes with the belief and how the belief is taken onboard.

The way blacks believe in God is totally disastrous. We think that believing in God has to include the surrendering of our self belief and our natural creative powers to "him" and then rely entirely on this God to provide everything we need because this God is supposed to be almighty father in heaven that is merciful enough to provide us with whatever we need in this life. This just absolutely catastrophic way of belief. The terrible consequences of which we are all seeing today.  [size=18pt]The black race can't do jack without the white race who, btw, are the real Gods of the black race.[/size]

I believe in a creator God, but i do not subscribe to surrendering my creative powers to any bagger in the name of religion. Something which world religions like christianity and islam are always demanding. All you have to do is pay close attention to what their priests preach from the pulpits and how they interprete their respective scriptures and you will see this quite glaringly. The worship of african traditional gods does exactly the same thing. Blacks are just existing with a very very very bad operating software. We've got the hardware, but the software is horrible and the consequences of this cannot be denied by anyone with even half a brain.

What you have said is nothing but the truth. The way we go about religion(both foreign and local) with our closemindedness is root of our problem.

the faking pastor would have been happier if Senator McCain of Arizona won. After all he came from a black womb, so what wrong with the black women voting in Candidate Barack who came from white womb?

faking pastors are plentiful among blacks. the house nigas. the uncle toms.


One should ask him if he lives in Harlem? How does he like 145 and Lennox?

When he wouldnt live in Sugarhill, how do you expect to see him on Edge Combe?

Very funny.

The silly pastor forgot that Coptic Egyptians were back people. It was them that enslaved the Children of israel, not the arabs.

These silly pastors are rabid people. It seems as if that title get them drunk with no sense. He might as well be doing Ifa oracle, 2.

Pastor AIO:


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@^^^

Pastor James David Manning covered a few ground, with some home truths no doubt.

He skirted the floor and darted from black people to black man, skidded on to the black woman and then circled back to black people

If not for his distorted facts or fixed ideas of Africa and the discrepancies in his message, it would have be helpful, of good benefit and valuable use

To some degree it fell short of been an effective message because of the contradictions of the evidence and inconsistencies in his whole story .

With the debatable and controversial parts highlighted in bold, the points of interest in the message are available below:

0.49 . . . black people got a problem, and it’s a God problem . . .

you can train a black man to be a physician, an astrophysicist, train him to be a lawyer

1.07 . . . but can’t train him to understand the world he don’t know. Am telling ya . . .

1.34 . . . Only God can help black people where they are Black people behind Africa

1.41 . . . that big old continent over there . . . they never built one boat that was sea worthy. Not one!

. . . there's not one monument in Africa or whole of Africa

I know you're talking about Egypt. Egypt is not Africa

1.58 . . . there no great cities that were built.

Even before the first colonisation of white people coming to the shores of Africa or the slaves ships

Black men built nothing, no sewer system,

no houses above one level and none of them made out of stone,

all of them made out of grass and wood

Black men before the white men ever got to Africa

2.59 . . . black folk don’t know how to run no nation. They don’t know how . . . we have a problem.

Nigeria produces oil every year yet the children over there are hungry, pot-bellied and walking barefooted . . .

3.37 . . . Nigeria look at what yall have done to Harlem. Yall can’t even hold on to Harlem!

We have problem. Black folk don't understand the world

3.58 The only person that's going to help us get out of the situation is going to be God

There is something wrong with the Black man's mind

There is something wrong with his mind! . . . he doesn’t understand the world

4.12 . . . he doesn't understand the world . . .

4.19 . . . we gotta talk with the LORD. People we've gotta talk with GOD

4.28 . . . and black women . . . Shirley Chisholm Harry Tubman and Coretta King warned our boys.

Yeah OK, then we got a Black President

but you black women, what's wrong with yall?

Yall gonna let that white woman . . .

What's wrong with you black women, voting for Barack

Don't you understand?

It should have been a black woman, if you're going to have a black president

What's wrong with you?

You all is got no sense you black women.

Your men treat you like their dogs, like a dog. They walk all over you. 

They make you pay the bills at home

and then the preachers p!mp you and the churches

They make you pay the bills

Yall crazy, black woman

buying these black men private jets,

the tune of 50M dollars for a nigga to ride around in a private jet

and you're talking about look at our pastor

What's wrong with yall women?

What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you!

and what’s wrong with a black man

that will take that kind of money out of a poor neighbourhood and buy himself a private jet

What's wrong with yall niggas?

What's wrong with you! What's wrong with you black women

5:38 What's wrong with yall

You niggas are crazy!

6.02 . . . talk to a black man he doesn’t understand the world

He's never built anything

The most a black people has ever done, they did it in America under white people's help

When they were in Africa, they didn’t do nothing!

Now here is correcting a few of Pastor James David Manning's ignorances, fallacies and misleading notions   

Pastor James David Manning on the contrary Egypt is African

Ignored chapter of history tells of a time when kings (i.e. with broad flat noses) from deep in Africa conquered

and ruled ancient Egypt as Pharaohs

FYI Pastor James David Manning, black people invented, had monuments and built pre-colonialisation

Black people were the original inventors of the disciplines that helped bring the world into the technological age

Africans invented the binary system which is still used in the Yoruba oracle

and was copied by a German scientists and applied to computer programming

The Yoruba surrounded their settlements with massive mud walls with verandahs  around the court.

The walls were of puddled mud and palm oil.

The most famous of Yoruba fortifications and the 2nd largest wall edifice in Africa is Sungbo's Eredo.

It is made up of sprawling mud walls and the valleys that surrounded the town of Ijebu-Ode in Ogun state.

Sungbo's Eredo is the largest pre-colonial monument in Africa, larger than the Great Pyramid or Great Zimbabwe.


^{Drawing of Benin City made by an English officer, 1897}

The bottom line in escaping the dilemma which is of all people and not only that of the black people,

is to let not our behaviour be like that of this world,

but be changed and made new in mind, so that by experience we may have knowledge of the good and pleasing and complete purpose of God.

^{References:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/02/black-pharaohs/robert-draper-text.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Africa
Romans 12:2 BBE}

He doesnt make sense to me. His problem is inferiority complex. There is no black brain. Many nigerian students abroad are doing far better than their mates. So there's no brain problem.

The next issue has to do with our system . And we should know that every developed nation had their troubles in time past. Before white men came. We had great empires and kingdoms in Nigeria. We had the Egyptians and ethiopean kingdoms.Where was America then? The westerners didn't do a good finishing when they left. It left us in division as a nation without ideology. People were bought together without purpose. But we are awake now. The old generation of politician are beirng replaced with the fresh blood and broad minded people. We don't buy everything the world dumps on us any longer. We are embracing technology . Africa is fast developing now. In the next few years we will take out place in world affairs.

The Arabians were once seen as morons. Now the Arabian world is a high-tech tourist centre .we must believe in ourselves and our future. It is not about the colour of the skin. They once used pit latrine in the Uk. Others have passed our phase before. We don't need preachers like this who destroys hope in a people that needs to believe in themselves that they matter in this world. Has he been to Nigeria ?. He only watch CNN report.

Joagbaje:

He doesnt make sense to me. His problem is inferiority complex. There is no black brain. Many nigerian students abroad are doing far better than their mates. So there's no brain problem.

The next issue has to do with our system . And we should know that every developed nation had their troubles in time past. Before white men came. We had great empires and kingdoms in Nigeria. We had the Egyptians and ethiopean kingdoms.Where was America then? The westerners didn't do a good finishing when they left. It left us in division as a nation without ideology. People were bought together without purpose. But we are awake now. The old generation of politician are beirng replaced with the fresh blood and broad minded people. We don't buy everything the world dumps on  us any longer. We are embracing technology . Africa is fast developing now. In the next few years we will take out place in world affairs.

The Arabians were once seen as morons. Now the Arabian world is a high-tech tourist centre .we must believe in ourselves and our future. It is not about the colour of the skin. They once used pit latrine in the Uk. Others have passed our phase before. We don't need preachers like this who destroys hope in a people that needs to believe in themselves that they matter in this world. Has he been to Nigeria ?.  He only watch CNN report.     

Thanks for this post. I was getting depressed reading some of the stuff that has been posted about Africa in the last 24 hrs or so on a couple of threads.

What are the Benin Bronzes?

What do the Benin Bronzes mean to you?

Ground breaking art from the African continent, or a shameful symbol of Britain’s Imperial past?

In the late 1800s, the Benin Empire in Africa was a hotbed of artistic skill and the British wanted a piece of it

- as many pieces as they could steal, in fact.

But what were the beautiful Benin Bronzes and did the current Queen of England really fence stolen goods.

Produced on behalf of The Open University Open Broadcasting Unit by 360 productions

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James David Manning (born February 20, 1947) is chief pastor  at the ATLAH World Missionary Church on 123rd Street in New York City.

Manning grew up in Red Springs, North Carolina, born to an African American family, and has been at ATLAH since 1981.

ATLAH stands for All The Land Anointed Holy, which is Manning's name for Harlem.

His congregation, "ATLAH Worldwide Missionary Church" is the former Bethelite Missionary Baptist Church.

The church is also the site of the ATLAH Theological Seminary, which offers classes on preaching and prophecy.

Manning is fiercely opposed to the gentrification of Harlem & calls for its residents to boycott its shops, restaurants, doctors, banks & churches.

That action, combined with a general rent strike, would force all property owners out of Harlem, he said,

leaving the neighborhood to its rightful inheritors: black people.

Manning calls his plan "No Dew, Nor Rain," after Elijah's warning to Ahab, king of Israel, of a coming drought.

"When there's no dew, no rain, there's a drought - there's all kinds of suffering," said Manning.

The whole of Harlem, he said, is to be a "drought zone

Biography:

Manning graduated from The College of New Rochelle with a Bachelor of Arts degree

and continued on to Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York where he was awarded a Master of Divinity.

Manning also holds a Doctor of Philosophy degree from his own ATLAH Theological Seminary, an unaccredited educational institution.

As a younger man, Manning burgled homes, mostly on Long Island.

He spent about three and a half years in prison in New York and Florida for burglary, robbery, larceny, criminal possession of a weapon,

and other charges before his release in 1978. While in prison, he became a devout Christian.

According to Manning, he attended the Oxford Round Table in 2004.

2008 presidential election:

Manning came to public attention in the 2008 presidential election after ATLAH posted several sermons of his

that were harshly critical of Democratic candidate Barack Obama on the website YouTube.

Among other accusations, he called Obama's mother "white trash" for becoming pregnant by a black man out of wedlock,

an issue he discussed during a press conference at the National Press Club on 8 December 2008.

Manning revisited this latter issue during a press conference at the National Press Club on 8 December 2008:

[center]"It is common knowledge that African men, coming from the continent of Africa—especially for the first time
—do diligently seek out white women to have sexual intercourse with.
Generally the most noble of white society choose not to intercourse sexually with these men.
So it's usually the trashier ones who make their determinations that they're going to have intimacy."[/center]

^{Reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_David_Manning}

This is absolute crap!!

e36991:

What are the Benin Bronzes?

What do the Benin Bronzes mean to you?

Ground breaking art from the African continent, or a shameful symbol of Britain’s Imperial past?

In the late 1800s, the Benin Empire in Africa was a hotbed of artistic skill and the British wanted a piece of it

- as many pieces as they could steal, in fact.

But what were the beautiful Benin Bronzes and did the current Queen of England really fence stolen goods.

Produced on behalf of The Open University Open Broadcasting Unit by 360 productions

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2Tac1gNPU?fs=1&hl=en_GB[/flash]

Benin bronze , ife bronze, Nok art, etc. Ife bronze were so realistic that graduates from the western nations felt intimidated by them that those works were not make by Africans.

Yet someone comes along and say Africans never produced anything. Sometimes we like preachings that makes us feeling bad about our lives and criticise those who God use to let us know "you've got something good in you"

Joagbaje:


Benin bronze , ife bronze, Nok art, etc. Ife bronze were so realistic

that graduates from the western nations felt intimidated by them that those works were not make by Africans.

Yet someone comes along and say Africans never produced anything.

Sometimes we like preachings that makes us feeling bad about our lives

and criticise those who God use to let us know "you've got something good in you"

@Joagbaje

I dont see the correlation . . .

What good is there in "liking preachings that makes us feeling bad about our lives"

There is no connection. Let's call a spade a spade jor . . .

This chap is an ignoramus, talking from all compass points of his mouth

He is an extremely ignorant person selling himself and pretending to be something he's not.

Phew! "Mo tu to e danu" means literally I spit him out

e36991:

Phew! "Mo tu to e danu" means literally I spit him out

Is it me you tutó è dànù or the other guy?

Joagbaje:


Is it me you tutó è dànù or the other guy?

@Joagbaje

Haba! Ogbeni oja, O de nse bi ogberi . . .

Se ma de le tuto iwo danu sha?

abeggy gif me sum credit naa

Na the man wey dey talk yafu yafu all over the place I spit out ooo

Ma ru igbo simi lapo ooo!

What's that bible scripture that talks about talking about amatter before hearing it brings forth humiliation and is a dishonour? Somewhere in the book of Proverbs,

,

Nebulae:

What's that bible scripture that talks about talking about a matter before hearing it brings forth humiliation and is a dishonour? Somewhere in the book of Proverbs,

@Nebulae

For you here it is for nothing 

Proverbs 18:13

GOD'S WORD Translation
Whoever gives an answer before he listens is stupid and shameful.

King James Bible
He that answereth a matter before he heareth [it], it [is] folly and shame unto him.

American King James Version
He that answers a matter before he hears it, it is folly and shame to him.

American Standard Version
He that giveth answer before he heareth, It is folly and shame unto him.

Bible in Basic English
To give an answer before hearing is a foolish thing and a cause of shame.

I watched the video.  That "Pastor" James David Manning is insane.  I think Uncle Ruckus must have been based on him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRNCpD3xhsY&NR=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdCcM3QzpY8

(some coarse language in this site.)
http://undercoverblackman..com/2009/04/james-david-manning-is-nutty-as-bleep.html

If you can't get to the undercoverblackman page above, you can change the word "bleep" in the url to a 4-letter word starting with "f" or you can view video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYaxLqHDJLs&feature=player_embedded#!

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allah, The Only GOD, The Most Merciful, The All Merciful. As salaamu 'alaikum; The peace be upon you, everyone.



I've seen no gods white or, black in these times, only devils, white and black, etcetera. It looks to me like, somebody crossed the one in the video. There is much of that here. For example, there is one mean devil here, who have been following me about the country for more than 40 years. Even, onto the internet!

I guess some people feel that Harlem, is being loss because white people are moving back there, and the cost of real estate (housing) is rising beyond their means. That may have some truth. I've heard that in Harlem, (N.Y.C.), there are condominium apartments now, that cost more than US$250,000;  http://www.cityrealty.com/new-york-apartments/east-harlem-apartments  ~

And I will agree, that the black man in America, (and maybe the world), has a God, problem. I can truthfully say that  there is too much self-indulgence, with this self-reliance thing, to the point of finding "un-necessary," The One And Only GOD, The Praiseworthy, The Most Merciful, of those whom gives mercy. And, the black man appears to love catering to the whims of the Evil One, who has promised to lead all astray, save a few;  saved, by The Grace of The One GOD, The Almighty. 


36:60. "Did I not enjoin on you, O ye Children of Adam, that ye should not worship Satan; for that he was to you an enemy avowed?  Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation   
         

17:62. He said: "Seest Thou? this is the one whom Thou hast honoured above me! If Thou wilt but respite me to the Day of Judgment, I will surely bring his descendants under my sway - all but a few!" Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation


4:119. "I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and to deface the (fair) nature created by Allah." Whoever, forsaking Allah, takes satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest. Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation    [See also 2:35-36]  ~  http://www.al-islam.org/quran/



These videos tell a different story about Africa, and its ancient past, and its prosperous future. However, watch out for sexy sider, kin to the black widow spider.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1529743144647466655# Africa: Ep 1 - Different But Equal - Part 1 of 5.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826tpNNrCF0  (My Love & Pride) The Africa They Never Show You.


Wassalaam. DevotedOne

Sorry case

For you here it is for nothing?

Explain.

I want to know what you meant by that.

Nebulae:


For you here it is for nothing?

Explain.

I want to know what you meant by that.

It's like saying "I can do it for you for nothing", and it simply means "No problem, here it is."

Nebulae:


For you here it is for nothing? 

Explain. 

I want to know what you meant by that.

InesQor:


It's like saying "I can do it for you for nothing", and it simply means "No problem, here it is."

@InesQor

Ruggeddy Baba InesQordy Baba!

Pftt. See as command just dey fly (i.e. Explain!)

Trust you for having my back and going out on a limp . . .

Thanks for helping a brother out . . .

PS: Happy New Year in Advance ooo

Okay, got that.

Arigato.

deluded preacher !

@e36991: You're welcome, bro

I wish you a great 2011 as well. . .