Tango123:


Each time you get malaria, u used already developed drugs to treat it

Eqch time somwone gets covid 19, no drug to cure it

Sir, u comparism is not accurate. Comparing apples to avocado pear is not going to be good.

If u want to compare malaria reinfection to covid 19 reinfection, when u get malaria, dont treat it, dont take any anti malaria tablets. Just take only paracetamol and multivitamins.

Or do u not know that there is no drug yet for covid 19. Those who get it are only given pain killers to handle fever, oxygen. No drugs.

mployer:

If your immune system could heal it the first time, it can heal it again and again.

Don't compare with malaria. We take drugs because immune system can't handle it.

Fibonacci88:

I understand ur point, but Malaria is by far a deadlier disease. A strong immune system is the reason why alot of us don't die of malaria and not necessarily the drugs. No matter how healthy u are anytime u do a malaria test 99% of the time it comes out positive. Malaria only breaks ppl down when the count becomes too much and overwhemls the immune system hence the need to take malaria drugs. My opinion is, if ur body can fight off the infection the first time, it shouldn't be a problem the second time except ur imune has been compromised. Covid19 is only scary cos of it's infectious rate and not because of how deadly it is. Imagine the whole world shutting down because of a diseas with less than 2% death rate and 90% recover without visiting an hospital. There is something WHO is not telling us and there is a grand scheme in play. Covid19 is just a means to get there.

GamalNasser:
So how is the Vaccine expected to work when a full infection can't create enough antibodies to stall reinfection so hows a docile vaccine strain of infection expected to guarantee that ?

linearity:


I think when scientists speak publicly, they are overly cautious with words.

The phrase ‘no evidence’ means a lot. It could mean WHO is still testing...has not start testing...etc. I would have been more worried if WHO said....”there is evidence that you don’t get immunity from an infection’. Which will be totally different from what they stated above.

Agreed, natural immunity are more potent than those acquired through vaccines, but remember that the body got it from doing a ‘life n death’ battle against a live virus and though the body won, but it was truly beaten up in a number of ways and places by the virus.

The body now have the cure by way of immunity, but it is still weak, it needs to replenish lost nutrients. Facing the same opponent within a very short period of time as we are seeing with those who retested positive might not be the best or real world situation with other kind of viruses.

All the cases with reinfections that I have read about, did not show symptoms and they recovered, it means the immunity worked. Agreed it didn’t give the virus a technical knockout at first sight of second reappearance, maybe because it was still weak and was not expecting a rematch this soon, but it did it’s job and retained it’s belt.

Tango123:


On what basis or statistics are you saying malaria is worse. Is it by infection rate, or death rate? Enlighten me please. Where us your evidence

Do you know that based on 3 percent death rate, if this infects every Nigerian, this means 6million Nigerians will die in one year. This is apart from the other illnesses that kill people in Nigeria. My estimate is that the 3 percent mortality is for countries with good healthcare. In Nigeria, due to a number of factors, it is likely to be more than 3 percent

Even at 3 percent, that is 6 million Nigerians.

How many does malaria kill in a year in Nigeria. I will like to know sir

Based on my google search, i saw 300,000 deaths a year from malaria in Nigeria. Sir, that is way below 6 million

What is your opinion sir on the information i just provided you.

Fibonacci88:

I understand ur point, but Malaria is by far a deadlier disease. A strong immune system is the reason why alot of us don't die of malaria and not necessarily the drugs. No matter how healthy u are anytime u do a malaria test 99% of the time it comes out positive. Malaria only breaks ppl down when the count becomes too much and overwhemls the immune system hence the need to take malaria drugs. My opinion is, if ur body can fight off the infection the first time, it shouldn't be a problem the second time except ur imune has been compromised. Covid19 is only scary cos of it's infectious rate and not because of how deadly it is. Imagine the whole world shutting down because of a diseas with less than 2% death rate and 90% recover without visiting an hospital. There is something WHO is not telling us and there is a grand scheme in play. Covid19 is just a means to get there.

Fibonacci88:

First of all ur assumption that everyone in Nigeria would be infected is highly flawed. Even 10% of the whole population can't be infected if we do the right thing of maintaining social distance, proper hygiene and wearing face mask we will all be fine and go around with our normal lives.
Covid19 confirmed cases worldwide is 2.92M that is less than 0.04% of the world population with about 204k deaths worldwide.if we extrapolate that to Nigeria, let's even assume 0.5% of our population is infected which I know it's impossible. That will be about 800k confirmed cases. With a death rate of 6% which I will still think it's high we would have about 48000 deaths. Let's assume all this infection took 6months, we would have a total of 96000 deaths yearly far less than malaria. I hope u can see that we are trying to kill an housefly on our scrotum with a sledgehammer. Social distancing and proper hygiene is key and not all these fear mongering. We have a far deadly disease in malaria and hunger with us already.

tarantino1:



If the antibodies are not enough to prevent reinfection, it means there is still a high chance of being reinfected by the same strain and one idiot here yesterday was taking about herd immunity.


What are the chances that vaccine would even work?

eni4real:
cc: Nairalandmonika

Nairalandmonika:

If antibodies can't prevent reinfection how then can a vaccine work, do u even know what a vaccine is.
A vaccine is a weak strain if the virus which when injected into the body, the body response by producing these antibodies to prevent infection from the real virus, WHO at this point seems very confused. Saying antibodies doesn't prevent reinfection is thesame thing as saying a vaccine will not work.

Mind you WHO first claim there was no human to human transmission earlier on at the beginning of the outbreak.

They should just keep quiet and do their research or allow different countries do their own research b4 bringing out such news.

koolpal:
this way he learns and other people to... Not by attacking and leaving him fuming for busting his ego...

GamalNasser:
So how is the Vaccine expected to work when a full infection can't create enough antibodies to stall reinfection so hows a docile vaccine strain of infection expected to guarantee that ?

Tango123:


I am really enjoying this exchange with you as i can see you reason quite intelligently. Thank you sir

I hear your argument in this post here, and i think it is quite valid.

But sir, it makes an assumption too. It assumes that Nigerians will use social distancing to the extent used in developed nations. It assumes that our government will do things that will enable and encourage Nigerians to abide by social distancing and proper hygiene, as governments in developed nations have done. It presumes that Nigeria will do wnough testing and tracking and traceing as many developed nations have done. We know our government is failing on all fronts. Kano is an example

All in all, both of us want what is best for Nigeria

The only reason i countered your first post was that I feared it will be read by people who are less intelligent than you, and who will say, yes, malaria is more dangerous. And i dont fear malaria and i don't socially distance because of malaria. So to hell with lockdown.

But i can see you think differently. I hope all who read your post will think like you

imhotep:

Its like WHO has now joined APC.

cc lzaa itooworwor

MISTAICEY02288:
Mtcheeww.. Even WHO is not to be trusted on this Covid-19 issue.. They've been bought themselves.

MansoryMX:


The whole world is confused. Nobody understands the pattern and true nature of this virus in order for a vaccine to be cure and even this virus is man made, i belive whoever made realize he made a mistake thinking he or she can cash out of a cure is produce by him or them.

Bacteriologist:
There has been at least 8 strains of COVID-19 identified so far. What I think the WHO is saying is that if you get infected by one strain of Covid-19 you might become immune to that particular strain but still remain susceptible to other strains after recovering.

Also, antibodies have been found in some recovered patients but they are not enough to prevent reinfection.

This virus is more dangerous than we think folks. We are in for a really long ride.

lovingyouhun:


Good morning, please at what site did you find the news on this picture? I'd like to see, especially if they update daily

Bacteriologist:


Ok it's on Facebook. Just type "Hashem Al-Ghaili" in the search box and follow him.