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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 10:49pm On May 06, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89267448] Don't get distracted, stay on the topic. That was smart of you. I thought you said there are no contradictions in the Bible. So because you couldn’t explain all of these, you tried to dodge the question. Hehehe |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:00pm On May 06, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: I will indulge you on the bolded part of your quote. Yes, God personally wrote the Bible as I have alluded to earlier and He did not make a mistake as you seem to be insinuating. "God is not a man, that He should lie...." (Numbers 23:19). You can see that there are some evolutionists, Theo evolutionist, Gap theorists, progressionists who think that the universe came into existence by a big bang billions of years ago when there was no eyewitness. Then billions of years ago when there was no there to see, the earth came into existence. Again billions of years ago they think life formed on the earth, when there was no eyewitness. Then millions of years ago when there was still no one there to witness it, they assert that an apelike creature began to change into a human being when there was no one around to see it. In the Bible, God's Holy Word, penned by man as I had explained earlier, tells us that God was there and He has given us an eyewitness account of exactly how the universe, earth and everything else was created. You asked how I think God personally wrote the Bible? Let us consider the verse below: "So the LORD spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend..." (Exodus 33:11). God spoke out loud to Moses many times as he led the children of Israel in the wilderness. We learnt that after God spoke to Moses his face shone bright. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 11:12pm On May 06, 2020 |
Give me a scripture that says God wrote the Bible. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:18pm On May 06, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: The depiction below sums up the Genesis 3 account.
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:23pm On May 06, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: If the Genesis account of Adam and Eve is not a myth why are you not taking it as a historical account?
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:30pm On May 06, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: God spoke to Moses face to face. Moses spoke to God as a man speaks to his friend. Is it you sinful, faulty man that will now interpret what he received from God? I believe in the Bible account that says God spoke to Moses as a wonderful, miraculous thing. The shining face of Moses also reminds us of how holy our God is! |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 12:21am On May 07, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89268886] God spoke to Moses face to face. Moses spoke to God as a man speaks to his friend. Is it you sinful, faulty man that will now interpret what he received from God? I believe in the Bible account that says God spoke to Moses as a wonderful, miraculous thing. The shining face of Moses also reminds us of how holy our God is! Let me shock you.Angels spoke to Moses and not God! If i asked you who Moses was talking to in the burning bush, I’m sure you’d say it was God, but the New Testament says it was an angel. “And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush.” ~Acts 7:30 I’m also sure that if I asked you on mount Sinai when he went up to receive the law, you’d say it was an angel. But see: This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us: ~Acts 7:38 Let me tell you this, and it is very important, NEVER build a doctrine around anything or verse in the Old Testament. The New Testament explains the Old Testament.For you to understand the Old Testament, you must first be grounded in the New Testament. Most of the ministrations in the Old Testament, if not all, was done by angels. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:35am On May 07, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: “The Bible is rife with historical inaccuracies.” |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:09am On May 07, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: Have you heard about the finger of God? "And the Lord delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of God; and on them was written according to all the words, which the Lord spake with you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly" (Deuteronomy 9:10). All of Scripture is inspired by God. Some parts are literal, some figurative. When Jesus said that He was the door He didn't mean a literal door with hinges, but that He is the way of entry into Heaven. - Ray Comfort. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 1:11am On May 07, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89270059] This man, you still haven’t answered the question. Also, show me a scripture that says God personally wrote the Bible. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:15am On May 07, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: Fake news!
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by madegreatbygrace(m): 1:59am On May 07, 2020 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89270492] Have you heard about the finger of God? All of Scripture is inspired by God. Some parts are literal, some figurative. When Jesus said that He was the door He didn't mean a literal door with hinges, but that He is the way of entry into Heaven. - Ray Comfort. Let us examine this often misapplied scripture . “15.And that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16.All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,” ~II Timothy 3:15-16 NKJV You’ll observe scripture appears twice in the above. Once in verse 15 and once in verse 16. But you know what, the Greek words for the two are different. The Greek word for the scripture in verse 15 is “gramma” while the Greek word for the scripture in verse 16 is “graphe”. Also, anytime you see scripture in the New Testament it is always referring to the scripture of the Old Testament, because the New Testament was not yet available at this time. Now, gramma means content or what was written. On the other hand, graphe means the art of writing. Therefore, looking at verse 16, we can come to the conclusion that it was the art of writing that was inspired by God and not the content or what was written. In other words, God motivated men to write but not always responsible for what they wrote. Sometimes, men did rely on eye witness accounts as in the case of the mad man of gadarene. Then also, men that have not come to the fullness of the revelation of God’s nature wrote especially the Old Testament. Because these ones didn’t really know God, they were presumptuous in their writing. Jesus Himself says no one knew God before He came. “No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.” John 1:18 NKJV Seen means revelation. The nature of God was not revealed to any man until Christ came. Christ is therefore the revelation of the Father. The more reason the writers of the Old Testament will always attribute everything that happened, whether good or evil to God. Recall that Job and his 3 friends spoke presumtously what they didn’t know about God. Thereafter, God rebuked and corrected them. This was the pattern in the Old Testament. However, you’d hardly find any error or inconsistencies in the New Testament ,especially the epistles because the Holy Spirit, which is the Spirit of Truth had been given when it was written ”Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.“ John 16:13 The Holy Spirit guided New Testament writers into all truth, and not partial truth. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:19am On May 07, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace: What is the scarlet thread that runs through the scripture?
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 4:38pm On May 07, 2020 |
madegreatbygrace:I have recently got to Chronicles and think it is the part of the book that is meant to finally make one open one's eyes and more carefully take note and wonder. It can not be seen by an a la carte reader. Here's a copy from beginning to end. Sorry its ESV. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:43pm On May 07, 2020 |
budaatum: Well done. I knew that these are the kind of questions that will interest skeptics. For your information, these supposed contradictions have already been addressed and trashed years ago on this forum. The bible skeptic you quoted got his questions from the so called "The 101 contradictions of the Bible" which has been cleared up in the suggested link here --> https://www.gluefox.com/min/contrad.htm
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 5:52pm On May 07, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:If you understood what you've quoted, you'd understand how you may be hearing "fear" and others might be hearing a greater commandment than that. After all, God can only meet you where you are and we can not all be met at your level unless your argument is, fear is the greatest commandment of the Lord God. Is it, Deg?
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:56pm On May 07, 2020 |
budaatum:
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:22pm On May 08, 2020 |
Already Hooked
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:20pm On May 10, 2020 |
budaatum: What are you then? Don't be shy. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 7:04pm On May 10, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:I am buda. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:03pm On May 10, 2020 |
budaatum: And what does this buda believe in?
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 10:45pm On May 10, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:buda hardly believes in anything except in buda and the general love and kindness of other humans, as in our inherent desire to, or be perceived to, be good. Why believe when one can always check the available evidence and know? |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:55pm On May 10, 2020 |
budaatum: Do you know whether God exists or not?
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 2:36am On May 11, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:Yes, I do know whether God exists or not. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:53pm On May 14, 2020 |
budaatum: Does God exist? 1 Share
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 3:11pm On May 14, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:Depends on whom you are. Does God exist for you, is the correct question to ask, after you've answered, What is God? Do know that your god does not exist for me and if it did I'd kill it. It must exist for you though or you'd not be worshipping it. |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:23pm On May 14, 2020 |
budaatum: God does not depend on whom I am. God exists regardless of who I am. Who is God to you? |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 3:31pm On May 14, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:I agree that God does not depend on whom you are. Whom God is to me is none of your business since its between me and God. But since you peddle your god here so much I do insist your god does not exist for me and if your god so happened to turn up and ask me to worship it my response will be, "Get thee behind me satan!"
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:06pm On May 14, 2020 |
budaatum: You have just denied that you know God. This explains why you do not fear Him.
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 4:15pm On May 14, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:I do know your god, deg, you've promoted it here often enough. And you are correct that I do not fear it since its a rather hopeless god you have. If you had the right God, you too would fear nothing at all, especially not God who loves you so much. www.nairaland.com/attachments/11481350_20200505224920492_jpeg_jpeg45c04c33a4a908bd46d091bf5a07f6af |
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:24pm On May 14, 2020 |
budaatum: Atum, there's only One God and this is why you should fear Him. 1 Share
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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 4:32pm On May 14, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:There is indeed one God, deg, which makes me wonder why you'd create an imaginary dead god of fear in your own head and ignore the loving God.
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