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Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by Nobody: 12:51pm On May 07, 2020
GamalNasser:


Chloroquine shown to be effective by who? Even after we can provide thousands who have used chloroquine and gotten better and you can't provide a single person that used chloroquine and it didn't work you want to come here and say nonsense , the Bauchi governor himself used it and all the Corona patients in his state are using and till date you think it's a coincidence he Bauchi has a 100 percent recovery record with Zero death ? Even an anti Trump democrat Congress woman who was in the verge of death till her husband went to the black market to buy chloroquine has come out to testify her the drug pulled her out from the brink of death with just a single dose and you want to still come here and say shit .

I hope you are being paid to say what you are saying if not you are one of the most ignorant gullible people on Earth ... Can you name a single COVID patient chloroquine failed to treat ? I am sure you are also among those slandering the Madagascar Tonic even though it has shown 100 percent efficacy cure and zero deaths so far but you applauded Remsidivir an antiviral that has devastating side effects and a mere 31 percent cure rate .... You are just a puppet
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Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by saajus: 12:51pm On May 07, 2020
So many questions are begging for answers. This is the highest form of wickedness if these Shenanigans have human being influence. About the 05 research, this novel COVID-19 was highly different in behaviour from SARS-CoV that was research on then. It's like this one is showing different style daily. It took them almost 2 or 3 months before they could fully understand how it attacks the respiratory system.

larrysworld:
We need to think critically about this matter of chloroquinne. Let's forget everything anyone has told us and we just do some thinking by ourselves.

1. Why is the MSM against it?
2. Who stands to benefit if HCQ works
3. Who stands to benefit if it does not work?
4. Is it possible HCQ can cure more ailments than we know?
5. Will using HCQ benefit big Pharma, i.e. Gilead, Pfizer etc
6. Why would some sponsor fake clinical trials against HCQ i.e. Virginia Veteran Clinic
7. HCQ cures Malaria which is a parasite, why will it help in curing Covid19, a virus? Are we being lied to all this while?

There is s study by NIH headed by Dr Fauchi and they found Chloroquine inhibits coronavirus as at 2005. Are the cures being hidden from people?
link: https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69

The initial french study was not a randomised trial and so some people dispute it. They came out with a new study two days ago which is randomised and using 1061 Covid19 patients.

Only future will prove the past.




Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by Originalsly: 1:03pm On May 07, 2020
Gandollar:


If the aforementioned cured him, then why is government not employing it as interim solution?


He used it because it has long been proven to kill the virus. Remdesivir is the experimental drug the FG must use on the citizens.... by force. This one promoting an effective drug will be silenced.
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by bigtt76(f): 1:10pm On May 07, 2020
I will resist the urge to Shalaye ....don't try to gaslight me!


blowjohn:


U haven't answered my question.
Who told u some other antiviral dont work?
Ubk ow how many HIV drugs are being used?

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Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by larrysworld: 1:15pm On May 07, 2020
The corona virus that was investigated in 2005 and now is the same thing. In fact, the Corona virus is actually a group of viruses that looks like a crown when examined under the microscope, hence the name corona. The only difference here is that the virus seem to have been modified somehow hence the way it is behaving. This is one of the reasons it is believed to have been altered in a lab.

The virus is not what they are selling to us. The fear of Covid will kill more people than Covid itself. If you check the mortality of the virus, it affects mostly people with compromised immune system while others, might have it and be asymptomatic.

There is definitely a virus which can be deadly for older people and those with compromised immune system and some people are dying from it but beside that, it is not as scary as they put it to us.

saajus:
So many questions are begging for answers. This is the highest form of wickedness if these Shenanigans have human being influence. About the 05 research, this novel COVID-19 was highly different in behaviour from SARS-CoV that was research on then. It's like this one is showing different style daily. It took them almost 2 or 3 months before they could fully understand how it attacks the respiratory system.

Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by bigtt76(f): 1:15pm On May 07, 2020
Good but we've not been told the COVID19 virus causes pneumonia. It triggers respiratory issues - yes and the possibilities that the symptoms may be similar or in effect result in pneumonia is high and yes Azithromycin can clear the symptoms.

What we should not try to do is make people believe that Azithromycin cures COVID19 rather it alleviates the symptoms caused by it. The governor's message was using Azithromycin to cure COVID19 which is not so but rather the symptoms listed above. Thanks for sharing though, I appreciate it.


larrysworld:
https://www.webmd.com/lung/covid-and-pneumonia#1

pneumonia can be caused by bacteria and fungi infections in the lungs. Azithromycin is an anti bacterial to treat it.

Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by blowjohn(m): 1:49pm On May 07, 2020
bigtt76:
I will resist the urge to Shalaye ....don't try to gaslight me!



grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
U go fear na. No be only gasoline stovelight
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by Lovelive: 2:01pm On May 07, 2020
GreatResearcher1:
Has WHO approved it?




Would you stop this silly question?


By the way who are you for questioning anyone using anything that works for him or her?











Get lost uselesswise
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by Lovelive: 2:04pm On May 07, 2020
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Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by Charly68: 2:06pm On May 07, 2020
This man behaves like Baba Trump..speak your mind and tell the truth ..Thank you Mr Governor
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by Lovelive: 2:06pm On May 07, 2020
http://bitchute.com/video/BequKSEffstx/


olisaEze:
People r dying, people r scared. Guess what oga governor no one is interested in ur apologies. It was recommended for u, so I guess it’s being used to manage other covid19 patients without ur opinion.

Now quit chasing d limelight and do the job ur people voted u in to do! Since u also acknowledged that it was God that saved u from d virus, do us all a favor and make the health sector in ur state a model for the rest of the country and even Africa. U won’t die quicker if u take the money u'd have embezzled (don’t even try to deny it, u nor bi Nigerian politician again?) and start a state owned Medicare for the less privileged in ur state.
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by Nobody: 2:15pm On May 07, 2020
Authoreety:
If it works, then what the need for sorry?


Sit down there and be waiting for WHO...
Which WHO sef? , the one that wants to wipe out humanity?
Bros, Heaven helps those who help themselves..
Even this Madagascar syrup may be secretly funded by same WHO.

DON'T worry about a cure for an illness you have never personally witnessed.
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by Lovelive: 2:21pm On May 07, 2020
blowjohn:


All over nairaland u see people asking if WHO has approved it etc







Ignore them please

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Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by Insectkiller: 2:22pm On May 07, 2020
Bunch of hypocrites cheesy
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by yahmohy27: 4:43pm On May 07, 2020
StagethemTVee:
Why should he have any? But i remember that chloroquin harsh sha...it attacks malaria through the red blood cells making the person soo weak during treatment
If I may ask,what is effect of this chloroquine self that they banned it?
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by Slic1: 5:06pm On May 07, 2020
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Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by truthstands01: 5:24pm On May 07, 2020
u11ae1013:
Anyone in Nigeria who has an issue with chloroquine is either biased or due to hatred for Donald Trump because he supported it.

There is no drug as far as I am concerned that is more effective than chloroquine in treating those symptoms of coronavirus

100% correct. The hatred people has on President Trump is killing them. Stay there and be waiting for corrupt WHO or NCDC to approve use of chloroquine for treatment of Covid-19. The world is full of deceit. There's no vaccine for now. So be wise and do the needful if you are a victim.
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by davien(m): 6:22pm On May 07, 2020
larrysworld:
It is obvious that your brain is porous. If not, you should have realised from my posts that I know what I am talking about as someone in a similar field. And here you are talking about tests, when you have no idea what a swab is... People like you are the true enemies of Nigeria, blind and unapologetic ignoramus.

Countries like India are using hydroxychloroquine to cure Covid19. HCQ has become a "De-Facto" cure in most countries including USA and China. It is not yet a "De-Jure" cure because of the corrupt Medical Industrial Complex and WHO which is being run by a war criminal who almost exterminated a whole tribe in Ethiopia using the Cholera vaccines supplied by gates foundation and covering up the epidemics. All the studies of HCQ are on the internet, if you have the cerebral capacity to go check them out.

France just released a study on 05/05/2020 of 1061 people who used HCQ. See screen shot below
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1477893920302179.

May I suggest you stop watching CNN, studies have shown that prolonged exposure to fake news makes people dumber.
There is a cure for Covid-19 but we have't found one yet for Stupidity.

You don't read, that's your problem. You simply glance through.

"Evidence is needed to augment the knowledge of outcomes of patients with COVID-19 who are treated with this drug combination. In our analysis, which is not a RCT but which relates the real-life experience of physicians treating patients in the context of an emerging pandemic, we report the outcomes of 1061 COVID-19 patients treated with an HCQ+AZ combination from the time of diagnosis. The spectrum of severity of COVID-19 ranges from mild symptoms to severe respiratory distress [1]. We assessed patients who received at least three days of treatment and eight days of follow-up. The majority of patients in our work had relatively mild disease at admission (95%)."

That's from your source.

95% of patients had mild symptoms, how did they take this into account? Did they use a placebo? Nope they did not.

Those with severe respiratory illness showed no viral shedding, it's in the article itself. I'm quite surprised you pulled an authentic source though. Next time do your homework and not simply glance through and pick something that's obvious with hindsight (patients with mild symptoms typically recover).
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by davien(m): 6:34pm On May 07, 2020
Larrysworld here's a paper that looked at 7 articles from 16 literature databases releases on the 16th of April.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.25898

Here's the conclusion.

" Treatment with HCQ may result in a benefit in terms of less number of cases showing radiological progression, with comparable adverse events profile when compared to control/conventional/standard treatment. We can expect benefit in terms of time to body temperature normalization and a number of cough days. However, at this current point of time, no difference was seen in terms of virological cure on day six to seven postinitiation of therapy and composite death or worsening of disease. The benefit of the HCQ + Azi treatment is uncertain at this current point of time with most of the data being reported by the same research group. We need more clinical studies to come to a definite conclusion."

The therapy has benefits of stabilising temperature and coughing, but it doesn't lead to antibody response(virological cure) or viral shedding. In fact it doesn't stop the spread and worsening of infection. Only blankets outward symptoms. But I admit it's better than nothing.
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by rOsy247(f): 8:09pm On May 07, 2020
Use it Jare, if that's what will help people.
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by megama: 12:19am On May 08, 2020
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by witworth(m): 4:17am On May 08, 2020
Why should he apologize, if he likes he uses rohypnol and tramadol. As long as he's cured. Let the people criticising him go and get infected first then wait on the Lord for healing without using chloroquine
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by larrysworld: 4:25am On May 08, 2020
Therein lies your problem, you seem to have a premeditated conclusion that something is not going to work. You should have properly read what you highlighted and sent to me. Even a dunce knows that every illness can kill if it is not treated right on time.

You need to up your ante and do more research but first take off the covering on your eyes. The article you sent to me was done last month, sponsored by fake news and big pharma but what I sent to you was a study conducted two days ago. A broad randomised study based on 1061 patients and it doesn't get any better than that. Just ask yourself why all your studies keep saying "uncertain" or "no benefit noted", why cant they just say outright that it dosen't work.

The study you sent is CRAP. It is similar to a university student in Nigeria going into the library and looking for research papers on when HCQ has interacted badly and then combined those instances without corresponding underlying facts on the state of each sample used by the original author or researcher.

My question to you:
1. How many patients were used in this study you highlighted?
2. Who oversaw the conduct of the clinical trials?
3. Does the study state exclusively that the trials were randomised?
4. Do patients in the study have comorbidities? If they do how many?
5. Is this a clinical trial or a clinical observation like the Virginia Veteran Clinic?

Answers these and you'll be good.

Do you have an idea how antibodies are generated? From what you wrote you seem to think antibody response come from the medicines you take. Sorry Bro, it is obivious you are spewing what CNN told you, otherwise you will know what an antibody is and how it is produced. Big pharma aggregate studies they find are not favourable and presented that to you without stating the underlying conditions of the samples (patients) used in such study.

All viruses work in the same mechanism, ALL of them. That's why there are classification of diseases i.e. virus, fungi, bacteria, etc So Corona Virus works with similar mechanism as all other viruses howbeit more aggressive with people whose immune are compromised unlike influenza which is still very deadly but not as aggressive therefore buying people time for medical intervention.

Do you know that HCQ also has prophylaxis quality? Ask the doctors and nurses in NY why they themselves were using it when treating Covid19 victims. So why are they running to produce vaccines and asking gullible people like yourself to submit themselves for vaccination from a virus that likely 40%-50% of Nigeria population already had but didn't notice they had it? I said that considering we have a very poor state of personal and public hygiene among Nigerians.

Please stop watching fakenews CNN & co, prolong exposure is dangerous to your health. Do your research and use your brain to think. Always ask questions, because then you are likely to find an answer. There is a cure for Covid19, but there is no cure for Stupidity.

PS: outward symptoms like fever is actually good because it suggests your body is doing the right thing against a foreign invader. HCQ does not suppress outward symptoms during treatment, outward symptoms are just indicators that treatments are in the right direction.

davien:
Larrysworld here's a paper that looked at 7 articles from 16 literature databases releases on the 16th of April.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.25898

Here's the conclusion.

" Treatment with HCQ may result in a benefit in terms of less number of cases showing radiological progression, with comparable adverse events profile when compared to control/conventional/standard treatment. We can expect benefit in terms of time to body temperature normalization and a number of cough days. However, at this current point of time, no difference was seen in terms of virological cure on day six to seven postinitiation of therapy and composite death or worsening of disease. The benefit of the HCQ + Azi treatment is uncertain at this current point of time with most of the data being reported by the same research group. We need more clinical studies to come to a definite conclusion."

The therapy has benefits of stabilising temperature and coughing, but it doesn't lead to antibody response(virological cure) or viral shedding. In fact it doesn't stop the spread and worsening of infection. Only blankets outward symptoms. But I admit it's better than nothing.

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Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by stabilizer: 4:29am On May 08, 2020
Gandollar:
If the aforementioned cured him, then why is government not employing it as interim solution?

It already sucks to live in this hell on Earth, it's made worse when a quota system general is at the helms.

What plans are Nigerian scientists making to find a solution?:

We are just sitting by praying not to be the next victim and waiting for other countries to develop a cure so that we can buy while buhari sinks billions into lake Chad looking for whatever he hid there.


You are not getting the point yet right? Do you expect him to publicly say it that he was tested positive to corona when he only had malaria
Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by platodeen(m): 7:01am On May 08, 2020
Gandollar:
If the aforementioned cured him, then why is government not employing it as interim solution?

It already sucks to live in this hell on Earth, it's made worse when a quota system general is at the helms.

What plans are Nigerian scientists making to find a solution?:

We are just sitting by praying not to be the next victim and waiting for other countries to develop a cure so that we can buy while buhari sinks billions into lake Chad looking for whatever he hid there.


In this part of the world, we don't give solutions. Rather, we keep enforcing hardship on d people as long as d selfish gains keep coming.

And if u attempt initiating d solution wen cruel benefits still flows into their pockets, u tend to risk ur life or a deliberately programmed social total social

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Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by platodeen(m): 7:02am On May 08, 2020
Gandollar:
If the aforementioned cured him, then why is government not employing it as interim solution?

It already sucks to live in this hell on Earth, it's made worse when a quota system general is at the helms.

What plans are Nigerian scientists making to find a solution?:

We are just sitting by praying not to be the next victim and waiting for other countries to develop a cure so that we can buy while buhari sinks billions into lake Chad looking for whatever he hid there.


In this part of the world, we don't give solutions. Rather, we keep enforcing hardship on d people as long as d selfish gains keep coming.

And if u attempt initiating d solution wen cruel benefits still flows into their pockets, u tend to risk ur life or a deliberately programmed social rejection

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Re: Bala Mohammed: I have No Apologies For Using Chloroquine To Cure Coronavirus by iknowwhoiam: 10:54am On May 09, 2020
larrysworld:
Therein lies your problem, you seem to have a premeditated conclusion that something is not going to work. You should have properly read what you highlighted and sent to me. Even a dunce knows that every illness can kill if it is not treated right on time.

You need to up your ante and do more research but first take off the covering on your eyes. The article you sent to me was done last month, sponsored by fake news and big pharma but what I sent to you was a study conducted two days ago. A broad randomised study based on 1061 patients and it doesn't get any better than that. Just ask yourself why all your studies keep saying "uncertain" or "no benefit noted", why cant they just say outright that it dosen't work.

The study you sent is CRAP. It is similar to a university student in Nigeria going into the library and looking for research papers on when HCQ has interacted badly and then combined those instances without corresponding underlying facts on the state of each sample used by the original author or researcher.

My question to you:
1. How many patients were used in this study you highlighted?
2. Who oversaw the conduct of the clinical trials?
3. Does the study state exclusively that the trials were randomised?
4. Do patients in the study have comorbidities? If they do how many?
5. Is this a clinical trial or a clinical observation like the Virginia Veteran Clinic?

Answers these and you'll be good.

Do you have an idea how antibodies are generated? From what you wrote you seem to think antibody response come from the medicines you take. Sorry Bro, it is obivious you are spewing what CNN told you, otherwise you will know what an antibody is and how it is produced. Big pharma aggregate studies they find are not favourable and presented that to you without stating the underlying conditions of the samples (patients) used in such study.

All viruses work in the same mechanism, ALL of them. That's why there are classification of diseases i.e. virus, fungi, bacteria, etc So Corona Virus works with similar mechanism as all other viruses howbeit more aggressive with people whose immune are compromised unlike influenza which is still very deadly but not as aggressive therefore buying people time for medical intervention.

Do you know that HCQ also has prophylaxis quality? Ask the doctors and nurses in NY why they themselves were using it when treating Covid19 victims. So why are they running to produce vaccines and asking gullible people like yourself to submit themselves for vaccination from a virus that likely 40%-50% of Nigeria population already had but didn't notice they had it? I said that considering we have a very poor state of personal and public hygiene among Nigerians.

Please stop watching fakenews CNN & co, prolong exposure is dangerous to your health. Do your research and use your brain to think. Always ask questions, because then you are likely to find an answer. There is a cure for Covid19, but there is no cure for Stupidity.

PS: outward symptoms like fever is actually good because it suggests your body is doing the right thing against a foreign invader. HCQ does not suppress outward symptoms during treatment, outward symptoms are just indicators that treatments are in the right direction.


My brother, many thanks for the info.

I always ask myself why our people (most Nigerians) by extension the world do not ask relevant questions.
I came to realization that they have been brain washed by CNN/BBC and the likes and by extension local media that do copy and paste from AP, CNN, BBC etc.

This is a simple question
1. Why is the media (CNN/BBC/AP/CNBC/ABC/NBS) vis-a-viz WHO vehemently opposed to the use of HCQ that has been proven to work in many studies
2. Why is the media (CNN/BBC/AP/CNBC/ABC/NBS) vis-a-viz WHO always dismiss other credible cures for COVID-19. e.g Madagascar without subjecting the claim to scientific process
3. Prof Iwu had claim that he has cure for COVID-19., nobody (Nigeria Government) is paying attention to him why? Nigeria Government had not bordered to test the efficacy of his claim?
4. Why is youtube censoring doctors and scientist who claims that the use of HCQ/Zinc is wffwctive in treatment of COVID-19?
5. Why are government across the world passing laws to enforce vaccination?

The answers to the above will help clear some doubts some people may have.
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