MuttleyLaff:
Its only lies, that Ọga d, pastes upandan the forum. He pasted the picture of Manikongo João I of Kongo, alias Nzinga a Nkuwu or Nkuwu Nzinga, as he was a black Hebrew Israelite (i.e. BHI) when in fact the guy was an African who converted to Christianity, and thereafter Nzinga a Nkuwu took the Christian name of João I, in honor of Portugal's king at the time, João II, but what did Baba d do, he conveniently left out that important fact and truth, just sold he could continue to sell his falsehood to the itching ears and the trustful easily persuaded by his lies to believe all the falsehoods he is busily churning out.

I don't mind him living in his fantasy world, but its just the toxicity of his posts, the hatred, the intolerance towards a set of fellow human beings, the divisiveness and how he sends out hostility messages between people et cetera. If it is nip in the bud, we'll have another Abubakar Shekau and Boko Haram in our hands. IPOD and Mazi will be child's play compared with the sect/cult/terrorists group that might develop from him

Another Shekau ke. Donnie abeg why na. Just manage the great salvation of Hebrews 2 abeg.

MuttleyLaff:


It is an aberration alright. It is a departure from the truth to knowingly push and sell a black face, black skinned Jesus, when that is far far far from the truth. Two wrongs doesn't make a right nah.

This is history, man. Nobody owns absolute truth thereof, only versions upon versions of it. And the OP has chosen the version that tickles his fancy as has you. So wetin be the big deal here?

What's so difficult in simply saying Jesus is not white and that He is not black either, but He is somewhere in between black and white, that He is reddish brown skinned. Hmm aadoiza?

OP's sources categorically stated Jesus was black, and he's sticking with them, for he's obviously distrustful of mainstream historical accounts by the whites, for which I don't blame him.
If oyinbo could successfully lay claim to the genealogy of Jesus, going as far as displacing and killing people to achieve this, and which, shockingly enough, Christians seem to be cool with, then i reiterate: I do not see why OP and his people can't do likewise.

I will call out the OP only when the world denounces the fake-arse Jews in the middle east as charlatans.
White people can claim Jesus as their ancestor but black people can't abi. Who no like beta thing.

aadoiza:
It doesn't matter if Jesus was actually white but a black Jesus changes everything. Shey oyinbo wey refuse communion 'from those black hands' in Germany the other time go accept a black Jesus as the Messiah? Shey oyinbo wey go rather call police on a black man 'cos the latter asked the former to leash her dog go come accept a black Jesus as her lord and saviour? Shey white american police that take delight in brutalising and killing black people would call a black Jesus their Baba? As a matter of fact, a black Jesus would be safer in the wild than in any caucasian land.

For the sake of black Christians I hope Jesus does not return a black man, otherwise, ehn, umm...

kikiki

aadoiza:

So it's okay to claim Jesus's a myth, and okay for oyinbo to impose and plant themselves as Jews in Palestine but an aberration to imagine he might have been black. I see.

Don't mind the sick fellow.

MuttleyLaff:
Netanyahu, Simon Peres and others are not real Israelites
but are, either actually Ashkenazi Jews or of Polish origin

Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 5:30pm On Dec 28, 2017

MuttleyLaff:
"Look at those who belong to the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews but are liars instead. I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I love you."
- Revelation 3:9

Will you guys stop all this blind leading blind nonsense.

donnie ran from wolves in sheep clothing, to running into the open, welcoming and embracing hands of a salivating bear, lol. He is no different to the Ashkenazi Jews, who too are pretending to be of Judah. If Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (i.e. 2 Corinthians 11:14) does anyone really think its impossible for impostors to parade themselves to be with preconceived ideas of who they think they really are

Everything is doing a full circle, we are going back to Eden, going back to where neither belonging to Judea nor being a Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, matters anymore and any longer for the fact that we are all now, ONE in Christ Jesus (i.e. Galatians 3:28)

The colour of the skin dont matter anymore, the texture and colour of the hair doesnt matter anymore. Race doesnt matter, What matters is the spirit, the ruach in us. What we are to be concerned about is our spirits. Indeed, the time is coming, and it is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth. The Father is looking for people like that, to worship Him (i.e. John 4:23) Not racists. Not be talking about a white or not white Jesus. Smh. We all are going to fall asleep, then what happens next, hmm? Of course, the black skin, the white skin, the Chinese skin, the Caucasian skin etcetera every one of them will rot away but guess what, its the spirit that will endure. Praise Yah, Praise YHWH. Praise Yahweh. Praise I AM that I AM. Alleluia.

As I park here with Galatians 3:29 below, I vehemently pray to ABBA, that we put aside all pettiness, and useless talks, listen to the Spirit of Truth and pack in all these nonsenses, distracting us all from becoming what ABBA through Yahshua Ha Mashiach has call us to be, and this being to be BELIEVERS. No more and no less.

"And if you are of The Messiah, you are therefore the seed of Abraham and heirs by The Promise."
- Galatians 3:29

MuttleyLaff:
I doubt you really are woke, lol though

"There is neither Judahite nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
nor is there male and female, for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus.”"
- Galatians 3: 28

There are four groups in the world today, that are pretending to be Israelites/Hebrews.

1/ The Ashkenazi Jews, using the "Jew" label since the late 18th Century in order to appear to be Judahite Hebrews.
2/ Some Blacks, who deceive themselves into believing that they are Black Hebrew Israelites, aka Hebrew Israelites, Black Hebrews, Black Israelites, and African Hebrew Israelites
3/ Some Europeans. This Israelites/Hebrews pretense is found mostly in British Israelism and/or is an offshoot of Nordic Israelism, both are a pseudoarchaeological belief that they are people who are "genetically, racially, and linguistically, the direct descendants" of the Ten Lost Tribes of ancient Israel.
4/ Some Asians, who think they’re Hebrews and are found mostly in the Philippines.

Which one are you donnie? Not that your answer matters, because as you can see from Galatians 3: 28 above, God isnt interested in, lol,

Hello pot, meet kettle, lol. Well, arent you a little ray of pitch black too, lol

MuttleyLaff:
... Proving who Esau and whom his descendants are today is irrelevant to what's on the table right now about pretending to be an Israelite. It is more is inconsequential because of the first served gospel has been preached to the 10 lost tribes of Israel. Now that being done, next on the agenda, was the promise made to father Abraham, then to be extended to the wider world wide world. This is the original intent of YAH, to bring salvation and redemption to whole wide world at large. Courtesy, demanded that, to the Israelites first (i.e. before the exile citizens of the kingdom of Judah and after the exile all the Israelites) and then to the world following after that, donnie. This is where we are now donnie, lol, a level playing field, for all. No servants, no maids, no 72 virgin maidens, none of any of those nonsense etcetera

Not to be accused of avoiding your question, fyi donnie from above Malachi 1:3, Esau, the Edomites, were totally wiped out. That inheritance, in Malachi 1:3 above, God, by virtue of Psalm 127:3 equally above, means descendants. There is no Esau today donnie, the Edomites are wasted. They formed alliance with the Babylonians to attack Jerusalem (i.e. Psalm 137:7) but donnie, since you wanted to hear word, I'll give it to you straight up.

Now do you remember the above mention of mine, copied from another thread and pasted here since relevant? Remember as seen above, that I earlier gave four groups in the world today, that are pretending to be Israelites/Hebrews, well fyi donnie, the Ashkenazi Jews are "who is Esau today" and Ezekiel 36:5, using scripture QED, inconjunction with Luke 21:24b proves this

MuttleyLaff:
"By speaking of a new covenant, He has made the first one obsolete;
and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear."
- Hebrews 8:13

“salvation to everyone who believes:
first to the Judahite, then to the Gentile."
- Romans 1:16

Go ahead and laugh yourself silly. See where laughing yourself silly got you, lol
Why arent I surprised your theology and spiritual capacity is unhinged. It's a complete failure.

You are not even a Judahite donnie, lol. You dont even know which tribe of Israel you are from, lol. Why dont you know donnie, hmm? It is because you are an impostor just as like the Ashkenazi Jews terrorising and oppressing the Palestines in modern state Israel.

We know that, Paul and Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ's inner 12 caucus disciples bar Judas were all from the tribe of Benjamin in the House of Israel (i.e. are Galileans) Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ from the House of Judah, but what of you donnie, what's your pedigree, what's the name of your tribe in Israel?

MuttleyLaff:
donnie, yes I can. I can defend that Israelites are distinct, they are all dead as a dodo because the scriptures doesn't lie and the word of YAH doesnt either. They dont contradict themselves. It is only liars and false prophets, like a wannabe prophet like, who twist and misinterprete scripture, and you have, from practices, perfected the way of inserting your lies, delusions, falsehoods, misunderstandings, hatred, in much senseless and useless jargon(s). You have no ounce of humility in you, in your pride, sitting and perching on your high horse, you thought, you'll will have a plain sailing at making mischief, that would go unnoticed and unchallenged. Smh

I DARE YOU TO STAND UP TO ME ON EACH COUNT, I HAVE PUT THAT THERE IS NO ISRAELITE ON EARTH TODAY CAPABLE OF TRACING HIS/HER ISRAELITE ANCESTRY. donnie, I repeat, there is no Israelite alive on earth today, capable of tracing his/her ancestry to Abram/Abraham or Jacob/Israel.

I havent said anything heavy that there is no ISRAELITE on earth today. It is the word of YAH. It is prophecy fulfilled. What the Assyrians didnt finish off, the Romans in 70 AD put the last nail in the coffin of the Israelites.

You are in trouble donnie, your pride and covetousness have pushed you into big big trouble. You and your Ashkenazi Jew brothers are in deep big trouble. You, because of lost identity are creating a nuisance of yourelf, spreading and promoting hate. Your Ashkenazi Jew brothers because of a modern state Israel are terrorising and oppressing the defenceless and unarmed the Palestinian people. Fear YAH now. Fear GOD, donnie.

You need Yahushua Ha Mashiach donnie. You need spiritual detoxification, to get rid of all that spiritual junk you've learned and partaken of. You have allowed racist, toxic behavior, attitudes and negative influences into your life, all which have poisoned your soul, this brought about by little not enough correct knowledge, which of course, is dangerous

I asked you a simple request when you were forming "I-too-know. Empty-barrel-make-loud-noise" where you said "according to the TORAH, MESSIAH will divide His people into tribes when He returns, and restore temple worship, along with His statues and laws"

My request was list the names of the tribes MESSIAH will divide His people when He returns, lol, but what did you donnie? You returned to paste Ezekiel 48:1-29, which is three quarters the whole of Ezekial chapter 48, lol. Simple list names, you are doing copy and paste almost whole chapter, lol.

If your pride will permit you, now let me correct you because your list in Ezekiel 48:1-29 is the wrong answer donnie.
donnie, fyi, the following are the correct names of tribes MESSIAH will divide His people when He returns, lol:

aadoiza:
This is history, man

Of course, its history, but if you want to revise history, make sure you are you are doing so in the true light of the Bible

aadoiza:
Nobody owns absolute truth thereof, only versions upon versions of it

Absolute truth is owned in the Bible and there are no versions upon versions of the Bible that states that Jesus is black or white. Neither does it states that the Israelites are black skinned aadoiza

aadoiza:
And the OP has chosen the version that tickles his fancy as has you. So wetin be the big deal here?

OP can chose to tickle his fancy or himself for as long as he wants to inasmuch as he does pull wool over peoples' eyes. I don't, so please don't even try to say as I do because everything I counter OP on is based on verifiable or checkable proof(s)

aadoiza:
... So wetin be the big deal here?

The lies, the misinformation, the deception the hate speeches, the racist slant et cetera are what the big deal is

aadoiza:
OP's sources categorically stated Jesus was black ...

What sources? Pfftt. Please don't make me laugh. Sources that when put under scrutiny, they fall apart at the seams, just like a cheap designer shirt bought at Oshodi

aadoiza:
... and he's sticking with them, for he's obviously distrustful of mainstream historical accounts by the whites, for which I don't blame him

What's he sticking to? Hare-brained cooked in his head realms of fantasy, hmm?

aadoiza:
If oyinbo could successfully lay claim to the genealogy of Jesus, going as far as displacing and killing people to achieve this, and which, shockingly enough, Christians seem to be cool with, then i reiterate: I do not see why OP and his people can't do likewise.

We are a group of people who are dignified, proud of our identity, colour and honest enough to tell the truth that Jesus is neither black or white but He is actually reddish brown in colour (i.e. He has a complexion thats something in the middle of white and black)

aadoiza:
I will call out the OP only when the world denounces the fake-arse Jews in the middle east as charlatans.

You can see from the beginning of the reply to you how I don't hide the fact and truth that the Ashkenazi Jews are oppressors, terrorists and identity thieves, just as OP is aspiring and coveting to do

Your buddy, OP, is a charlatan doing exactly the same thing the AshKenazi Jews are criticised of, he is using falsehood in assuming anothe group of people's identity

aadoiza:
White people can claim Jesus as their ancestor but black people can't abi. Who no like beta thing.

People want Jesus just the way He was, a reddish brown skinned human being, not a white Jesus or black Jesus

aadoiza:
It doesn't matter if Jesus was actually white but a black Jesus changes everything. Shey oyinbo wey refuse communion 'from those black hands' in Germany the other time go accept a black Jesus as the Messiah? Shey oyinbo wey go rather call police on a black man 'cos the latter asked the former to leash her dog go come accept a black Jesus as her lord and saviour? Shey white american police that take delight in brutalising and killing black people would call a black Jesus their Baba? As a matter of fact, a black Jesus would be safer in the wild than in any caucasian land.

For the sake of black Christians I hope Jesus does not return a black man, otherwise, ehn, umm...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APMu32sC2nM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=563zmSOcajY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZeglDVqnNA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71tKtKWrKa8

Oh o. Now you see how it makes sense that Jesus is a skin colour somewhere between white and black (i.e. reddish brown or olive skinned)

God is wiser than man, so God knowing that some mischievous person like OP will one day feel like manufacturing lies up about the skin of Jesus, hence had it that Jesus would come from a region that has skin tone, the somewhere in the middle of black and white

By the way. Charlie Murphy RIP man.

aadoiza:
So it's okay to claim Jesus's a myth, and okay for oyinbo to impose and plant themselves as Jews in Palestine but an aberration to imagine he might have been black. I see.

Have you ever seen the colour of bronze? Please admit that bronze is not black because bronze actually is brown

donnie:
kikiki

donnie:
Don't mind the sick fellow.

Believing Jesus is black, is like believing Tarzan is black or Shaft is white. Now who is a sick fellow.

MuttleyLaff:
Have you ever seen the colour of bronze? Please admit that bronze is not black because bronze actually is brown

Are you okay now?

StubbornGENIUS:
But Jesus is neither hebrew nor an egyptian.Isn't he an Israelite?

Hebrews and Israelites are the same.people, they were called Hebrews before they were called Israelites.

MuttleyLaff:
Have you ever seen the colour of bronze? Please admit that bronze is not black because bronze actually is brown


Believing Jesus is black, is like believing Tarzan is black or Shaft is white. Now who is a sick fellow.

Your comment is ridiculously ridiculous. African people are the color of bronze and so are the original Hebrews and Egyptians. They are also the color of burnt brass as the description of Jesus in the book of revelations.

khia:
Your comment is ridiculously ridiculous. African people are the color of bronze and so are the original Hebrews and Egyptians. They are also the color of burnt brass as the description of Jesus in the book of revelations.

Dude is not well at all.

khia:
Your comment is ridiculously ridiculous. African people are the color of bronze and so are the original Hebrews and Egyptians. They are also the color of burnt brass as the description of Jesus in the book of revelations.

Been wondering why it's so difficult for him to grasp. He has also not been able to provide live photos of what Jesus or the Israelites would look like today. Only drawings and paintings. The closest he came to doing so was show us brown cows and whites/latinos with Afros. Such a shame.

MuttleyLaff:
Have you ever seen the colour of bronze? Please admit that bronze is not black because bronze actually is brown

See wetin you dey come up with. Have you ever seen pictures of Omotola, or Rita Dominic the Nollywood actresses? Please admit they're not black.

aadoiza:

See wetin you dey come up with. Have you ever seen pictures of Omotola, or Rita Dominic the Nollywood actresses? Please admit they're not black.

Correct

khia:
Your comment is ridiculously ridiculous. African people are the color of bronze and so are the original Hebrews and Egyptians. They are also the color of burnt brass as the description of Jesus in the book of revelations.

Frankly, MuttleyLaff dey eff up. He doesn't know black people are a motley of colour people

aadoiza:

Frankly, MuttleyLaff dey eff up. He doesn't know black people are a motley of colour people

The stupidity of his reasoning enh.. just because he wants to be against the truth.

donnie:
Are you okay now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysInnHOoouc
Watch to learn the differences between Copper, Brass and Bronze


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mtvcl1EjgM

If you must know Baba d, I actually am OK now, even much better than you are. However what I am not OK about and not impressed with, is you pretending to be a good student/teacher of history and art yet you don't know that, Copper, Bronze and Brass are called the main red metals, with bronze's natural colour being brown, smh. It is only due to patina (i.e. oxidation over a long period of time) that you'll find bronze darken, blacken up or even turn greenish

As I had previously told you, bronze, is a mixture of copper and tin, known as strong orange. It belongs to the brown family. It is a colour associated with maturity and earthiness. It composed of 80.4% red, 49.8% green and 19.6% blue. In CMYK colour space, is composed of 0% cyan, 38% magenta, 75.6% yellow and 19.6% black.

Now Baba d, fyi, about those three Ancient Ife bronze heads, they actually are copper alloy heads found at different buried archaeological sites at, Ile-Ife, Nigeria, circa early 14th century. They aren't actually bronze, but really are copper works (i.e. an alloy of copper, zinc and lead) cast in brass. King Obalufon II, is identified as the ruler who introduced brass casting at Ile-Ife.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mtvcl1EjgM
The beads are red, the sculpture, everything is reddish-brown

[img]https://s7/images/0520head.jpg[/img]
Underlining reddish brown colour still visible
despite the darkening oxidation patina

[img]https://s7/images/theThreeIfeHeads.jpg[/img]
Still visibly seen reddish brown original colour on these heads

The ¹Brass head with crown, found at Wunmonije compound, the ²Ooni and the ³goddess Olokun, all three, originally had a reddish-orange brownish colour, lmao, smh. I don't understand your deliberate attempt to dishonestly twist the colour of these sculptures, even with those three Ife heads still having tinges of reddish brown remnant or streaks still visible

Brass, is an alloy of copper and zinc, it has a yellow color, similar to the appearance of gold. The metal can have varying proportions zinc and copper, which produces broad range of types with different properties, hence has a range of attractive colors ranging from red, yellow, gold, brown bronze and silver. Brass with 1% manganese will weather to a chocolate brown colour. Brass is commonly used for decorative fixtures because of its bright gold appearance

It is only a poor metallurgist or a blind "historian" leading blind, who wouldn't know that, copper is reddish brown in colour. Smh. Copper is a reddish-brown metal, which is why your copper wires, used in plumbing and electrical wiring, look reddish.
cc: aadoiza

StubbornGENIUS:
But Jesus is neither Hebrew nor an Egyptian. Isn't He an Israelite?

Jesus is Hebrew and He is an Israelite, He is a descendant of Judah and Eber.

khia:
Hebrews and Israelites are the same people, they were called Hebrews before they were called Israelites.

No doubt.

khia:
Your comment is ridiculously ridiculous.
African people are the color of bronze and so are the original Hebrews and Egyptians. They are also the color of burnt brass as the description of Jesus in the book of revelations.

"His feet were like silver-bronze, when it is white-hot in a furnace;
and His voice resembled the sound of many waters"
- Revelation 1:15

Smh, some people have allowed Mr d, prey on their ignorance(s), insult and abuse their intelligence. As for you, sheeple-ishly following this blind shepherd, leading you to over the edge of the cliff, where did in the Bible have you read that:
1/ African people are the color of bronze, hmm?
2/ Africans, so are the original Hebrews and Egyptians, hmm?
3/ Africans are the color of burnt brass as the description of Jesus in the book of revelations.
4/ The description of Jesus in the book of Revelations has anything to do with skin complexion
5/ Do you know what that Revelation 1:15 Hebrew word "chalkolibanon" (i.e. bronze/brass) actually means, erhn? Don't answer that, as I'll tell you what it is. The word properly means "white brass" and in fact, comes from a root meaning "white" Go look up what "white brass" looks like, lmao
6/ Why restrict yourselves to only the feet alone?
7/ What of Jesus' Arms, Hands, other part of His Torso/Body like, hmmm? Does Revelation 1:15, say them too were like bronze glowing in a furnace or were like fine brass?

khia, you and Baba d, should be grateful that Yahushua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesus Christ's feet is and/or looked like brass/bronze, lmao, because if someone’s feet is made of bronze, then its guaranteed that running to go visit judgment upon someone, is out of the question, lmao. His feet of judgment is dragging.

donnie:
Dude is not well at all.

[img]https://s7/images/21106381_10156537350333294_3808576034412800891_n.jpg[/img]
Adoring Biafran bowing down and kissing the feet of Mazi.

Your polarising terms "white" and "black" has little if not no significance in the Bible, which is why the Bible never says any thing about skin complexion being white or black

Now the thing that is unwell, unhealthy and befeft of love, is you are using these terms to disconnect people, make a group of people seem quite different from one another set of group of people, as human beings, when that is not the case

You've being to university, yet you don't understand the concept and/or meaning of unity in diversity, lmao, smh. This is the reason, why you are on a campaign of hate speeches, doing your toxic racial white person intolerance offensive posts et cetera. You're the making of what cult leaders are made of. You're walking in a specified way, that leads to becoming a sect leader, like them Kongo spiritualists, and even worse an Abubakar Shekau or Mazi Kanu. No disrespect to Mazi.

Baba d, donnie, has it ever occurred to you that, Love precedes life, and its not the other way round. That before life and skin colour, there is love and after life and skin color, love will remain. Love is the greatest that remains forever, greatest because it is greater than even the other two, hope and faith. Yahushua Ha Mashiach's prayer has always being that we all be one, even as He and the Father YAH, is one. Love is at the height of our existence, not the colour of the skin, of whether you're black or white, not about Jesus being black or white. Smh.

You Baba d, is nothing other than a narcissistic teacher. You aren't teaching about Yahushua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesus Christ and His love, but you are teaching about your carnal self and your fantasies.

eplanning:
[s]Been wondering why it's so difficult for him to grasp. He has also not been able to provide live photos of what Jesus or the Israelites would look like today. Only drawings and paintings. The closest he came to doing so was show us brown cows and whites/latinos with Afros. Such a shame. [/s]

cc: aadoiza

MuttleyLaff:
.

You Baba d, is nothing other than a narcissistic teacher. You aren't teaching about Yahushua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesus Christ and His love, but you are teaching about your self and your fantasies.

Oya show us human beings if you're not a crooked fellow. You have shown us paintings, sculptures, even cows.

MuttleyLaff:












Of course, its history, but if you want to revise history, make sure you are you are doing so in the true light of the Bible

When the oyinbo people you're fervently protecting their interests are busy with their subversive, agenda-ridden historical revisionism, are they doing so in the light of the Bible?

Absolute truth is owned in the Bible and there are no versions upon versions of the Bible that states that Jesus is black or white. Neither does it states that the Israelites are black skinned aadoiza

The bible is not a book of history, joor, if it were we would not be on this topic.

OP can chose to tickle his fancy or himself for as long as he wants to inasmuch as he does pull wool over peoples' eyes. I don't, so please don't even try to say as I do because everything I counter OP on is based on verifiable or checkable proof(s)

OP has given more convincing, and more easily verifiable proofs. He even showed us ruddy people, and you showed us ruddy malu .

The lies, the misinformation, the deception the hate speeches, the racist slant et cetera are what the big deal is

And so bloody what? Your oyinbo people have been doing this for centuries on end, and you love them for it.

What sources? Pfftt. Please don't make me laugh. Sources that when put under scrutiny, they fall apart at the seams, just like a cheap designer shirt bought at Oshodi

What's he sticking to? Hare-brained cooked in his head realms of fantasy, hmm?

Perhaps you don't know, but you are doing a shoddy job with your scrutiny of the OP' sources.

We are a group of people who are dignified, proud of our identity, colour and honest enough to tell the truth that Jesus is neither black or white but He is actually reddish brown in colour (i.e. He has a complexion thats something in the middle of white and black)

All the reddish brown people I have seen are still called black, unless, of course, there are other reddish brown folks else where. You could perhaps post their pics.

You can see from the beginning of the reply to you how I don't hide the fact and truth that the Ashkenazi Jews are oppressors, terrorists and identity thieves, just as OP is aspiring and coveting to do

Your buddy, OP, is a charlatan doing exactly the same thing the AshKenazi Jews are criticised of, he is using falsehood in assuming anothe group of people's identity

People want Jesus just the way He was, a reddish brown skinned human being, not a white Jesus or black Jesus

All those names you're calling the Jews now, how many oyinbo would agree with you? Even the UN is gently stroking the balls of those whom you call terrorists and charlatans.

aadoiza:
When the oyinbo people you're fervently protecting their interests are busy with their subversive, agenda-ridden historical revisionism, are they doing so in the light of the Bible?

Shey nobi, the same oyinbo, who spearheaded the fight against TransAtlantic Slave trade ni aadozia, hmm?

They nah all oyinbo be baddie n? Are all Africans good? Of course no. Not all Africans are good. Are all Naijas bad, scammers, into Yahoo-Yahoo, money rituals, chopping yam et cetera? Of course not, No. So why the using the same brush tar a whole group of people bad, erhn? Why sucking into that stereotyping, profiling racist overtone that all white people are bad, when its not true, huh?

aadoiza:
The bible is not a book of history, joor, if it were we would not be on this topic.

The Bible never said Jesus was black nor that He was white. Why it is because it wasn't an issue

aadoiza:
OP has given more convincing, and more easily verifiable proofs. He even showed us ruddy people, and you showed us ruddy malu

Ruddy means reddish brown. Red heifer, means reddish brown male, lmao

aadoiza:
And so bloody what? Your oyinbo people have been doing this for centuries on end, and you love them for it.

So if you can't do better than them, you mean jump and join them to do exactly what you are criticising them for. Smh. You guys don't cease to amaze me

aadoiza:
Perhaps you don't know, but you are doing a shoddy job with your scrutiny of the OP' sources.

I am not. I am showing him up for his shoddy understanding of history

aadoiza:
All the reddish brown people I have seen are still called black, unless, of course, there are other reddish brown folks else where. You could perhaps post their pics.

There are black skinned people, white-skinned people and the reddish brown skinned people (i.e. olive skinned). What you claim to be reddish brown skinned, them Omotola et cetera are fyi, racially perceived as black-skinned my dear

aadoiza:
All those names you're calling the Jews now, how many oyinbo would agree with you? Even the UN is gently stroking the balls of those whom you call terrorists and charlatans.

I am not the only one who isn't a hypocrite, not to call a spade a spade. Prophecy said the Ashkenazi Jews, (i.e. descendants of Japheth) will take over the lands of the Israelites (i.e. the descendants of Shem), so it is no surprise how things pan out

donnie:
You seem to be so excited about Scipio Africanus... that at last you seem to be making a point.

I am excited that the mask is slipping. I careless about your Scipio Africanus faux pas. Its just an indication of the length, you will go to push and drive home, with all efforts necessary, your unholy gospel that Yahushua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ is black-skinned.

From the word go, I have been making points after points, that you are not to be trusted and also made it clear that whoever that trust you, is looking for palaver trouble

donnie:
Sorry to burst your bubbles I had known the name long ago, so I just wrote it off head. I purposely skipped the Scipio because I always had difficulty pronouncing and spelling it

Will you keep quiet there
You didn't skip anything nothing, you mixed up one person for any when you said "... It's a continent named after a Roman general (Leo Africanus)..." Leo Africanus, was no Roman general soldier kankan. He was a writer. Besides that, there is 1600 years gap of existence between them

donnie:
The point I am making is there's no race or nation called Africa of Africans. It's a continent of several nations.

Besides that, the North African was already off with so much nonsense he had already put out as fact. Didn't need to prove anything more to him.

How dare you claim whites were original inhabitants of Africa. Yet the whites see him as a black man and not white. What a shame.

You not being a good student/teacher of history, is how you don't understand the North African's (i.e. S400) claim that whites were original inhabitants of Africa, to compound your already 99 problems, lmao. Fyi, S400 is Algerian by the way and what he/she was advancing and calling attention to, is that from DNA study initiated, the result came back that the Berbers, are Caucasoid Arabs, even though they have Sub-Saharan Black African ancestry.

I hope donnie, that you now can see that, what any and all colour issues does, is only cause hostility, animosity, division, resentment, bad blood between races, false sense of superiority over other races et cetera. The evidence of this, is how S400 didn't take kindly to your idea of tarring the whole group of white-skinned with the same brush. He/she is on record saying being tired of this shit, being tired of the low subject. Your penchant for pasting photos upandan and all over the thread, at every slightest opportunity pissed off S400 that much that your efforts were ridiculed by S400, with the below saying:

"... its always funny to see how some poeple instead of searching in their own history, archaeology, try to steal the history of other people, with some artist's painting of one black man painted by an artist in 1700's or religious believes. Maybe in 300 years if one find a picture of a Chinese who work in Nigeria, he will share it, to tell them Chinese were the first aborigine in Africa and where black-washed"

Now, let me clear you up of the whole matter, lmao, and how S400 and yourself are in your individual rights are both right, lmao

Herodotus, the father of History, wrote that the Garamantes, a North African people, used to live in caves. The Garamantes, mentioned by Herodotus, are a civilisation and tribe, thought to correspond to Iron Age Berber tribes in the southwest of ancient Libya.

To the Ancient Greeks, Libya was one of the three known continents along with Asia and Europe. In this sense, Libya was the whole known African continent to the west of the Nile Valley and extended south of Egypt. Herodotus described the inhabitants of Libya as two peoples: The Libyans in northern Africa and the Ethiopians in the south. According to Herodotus, Libya began where Ancient Egypt ended, and extended to Cape Spartel, south of Tangier on the Atlantic coast.

So in effect, the Romans referred to the "whole" of Africa as "Libya" rather than the Libya we know today and not as "Africa", except that Egypt then was considered part of Asia by the ancients, and only first got assigned to Africa, by the geographer Ptolemy 85 - 165 AD, who accepted Alexandria as Prime Meridian and made the isthmus of Suez and the Red Sea the boundary between Asia and Africa.

In fact, according to history, Africa is not Africa’s real name. The name "Africa" is mentioned to have been first used by the Romans to refer to the Carthaginian Empire which was in present-day Tunisia. After the Romans conquered the Carthaginian Empire, they acquired administrative control over North Africa, and this led to the division of North Africa (by the Romans) into two; namely Africa Pronconsularis, which was in present-day Northern Tunisia, and Africa Nova, which consisted of Algeria (i.e. where S400 is from)

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The fact is, the oldest, the ancient name of Africa, and the only one of indigenous origin was Alkebulan, where among the many other names, Alkebulan, which incidentally means "mother of mankind" or "garden of Eden" previously had were: Ethiopia, Corphye, Ortegia, Libya and of course, Africa - the latest of all.

Alkebulan is the oldest and the only one of indigenous origin. It was used by the Moors, Nubians, Numidians (i.e. Berber tribe), Khart-Haddans (Carthaginians), and Ethiopians. Africa, the current misnomer adopted by almost everyone today, was given to this continent by the ancient Greeks and Romans.

Now where S400, was saying "for your information the first affricans are the berbers (causaoid with white skin)" or "my ancestrors the berbers are the first africcans since antiquity", he actually in a way, was right because the Berbers, in the Coastal region of North Africa, indigenous to North Africa and some northern parts of West Africa , after migrating from Mediterranean and Middle Eastern regions are Caucasoid, while the Berbers who were located away from the Coastal region are Negroid.

I'll hazard a guess, that S400 actually is an Amazigh, because the Amazighs are found within Morroco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Mauritania, Niger, Mali and Egypt. Now the word Berber, is not one that the Amazighs people like to hear too much about, especially when its known that the word Berber is derived from the Greek word "barbaros" meaning barbarian, hence why they prefer calling themselves Amazighs. They are the descendants of Ham who migrated from the Horn of Africa to their main location in northwestern Africa. They are Western Hamites

MuttleyLaff:
I am excited that the mask is slipping. I careless about your Scipio Africanus faux pas. Its just an indication of the length, you will go to push and drive home, with all efforts necessary, your unholy gospel that Yahushua Ha Mashsiach aka Jesus Christ is black-skinned.

From the word go, I have been making points after points, that you are not to be trusted and also made it clear that whoever that trust you, is looking for palaver trouble

After calling us dreamers for showing you desert of Seth (Adam's son) in Africa and claiming in previous posts that humanity started around the middle East/ Mediterranean, you're now showing a map with Eden in Africa. You are not well at all. And to be cured, it will require your humble acceptance that you were wrong. And you don't have that humility. I don't admire your position at all because the more you put up lies, the more truth stares you in the face. For now, you're still in the dark and actually undeserving of a response.

How wouldn't berbers be white? ...Brainwashed thing.

MuttleyLaff:
Jesus is Hebrew and He is an Israelite, He is a descendant of Judah and Eber.

No doubt.

"His feet were like silver-bronze, when it is white-hot in a furnace;
and His voice resembled the sound of many waters"
- Revelation 1:15

Smh, some people have allowed Mr d, prey on their ignorance(s), insult and abuse their intelligence. As for you, sheeple-ishly following this blind shepherd, leading you to over the edge of the cliff, where did in the Bible have you read that:
1/ African people are the color of bronze, hmm?
2/ Africans, so are the original Hebrews and Egyptians, hmm?
3/ Africans are the color of burnt brass as the description of Jesus in the book of revelations.
4/ The description of Jesus in the book of Revelations has anything to do with skin complexion
5/ Do you know what that Revelation 1:15 Hebrew word "chalkolibanon" (i.e. bronze/brass) actually means, erhn? Don't answer that, as I'll tell you what it is. The word properly means "white brass" and in fact, comes from a root meaning "white" Go look up what "white brass" looks like, lmao
6/ Why restrict yourselves to only the feet alone?
7/ What of Jesus' Arms, Hands, other part of His Torso/Body like, hmmm? Does Revelation 1:15, say them too were like bronze glowing in a furnace or were like fine brass?

khia, you and Baba d, should be grateful that Yahushua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesus Christ's feet is and/or looked like brass/bronze, lmao, because if someone’s feet is made of bronze, then its guaranteed that running to go visit judgment upon someone, is out of the question, lmao. His feet of judgment is dragging.

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Adoring Biafran bowing down and kissing the feet of Mazi.

Your polarising terms "white" and "black" has little if not no significance in the Bible, which is why the Bible never says any thing about skin complexion being white or black

Now the thing that is unwell, unhealthy and befeft of love, is you are using these terms to disconnect people, make a group of people seem quite different from one another set of group of people, as human beings, when that is not the case

You've being to university, yet you don't understand the concept and/or meaning of unity in diversity, lmao, smh. This is the reason, why you are on a campaign of hate speeches, doing your toxic racial white person intolerance offensive posts et cetera. You're the making of what cult leaders are made of. You're walking in a specified way, that leads to becoming a sect leader, like them Kongo spiritualists, and even worse an Abubakar Shekau or Mazi Kanu. No disrespect to Mazi.

Baba d, donnie, has it ever occurred to you that, Love precedes life, and its not the other way round. That before life and skin colour, there is love and after life and skin color, love will remain. Love is the greatest that remains forever, greatest because it is greater than even the other two, hope and faith. Yahushua Ha Mashiach's prayer has always being that we all be one, even as He and the Father YAH, is one. Love is at the height of our existence, not the colour of the skin, of whether you're black or white, not about Jesus being black or white. Smh.

You Baba d, is nothing other than a narcissistic teacher. You aren't teaching about Yahushua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesus Christ and His love, but you are teaching about your carnal self and your fantasies.


cc: aadoiza

I didn't even read past the silver bronze comment, that was enough for me to understand that you wallow in ignorance and you are proud of it. Bronze do not turn into silver after being burnt in a fire. You try very hard to protect your white Jesus, which is an abomination. You will reap what you sow.

You're in the dark, have you seen bronze colour, can you speak in bintu? Etc. That's all you keep regurgitating with weirdo pictures. What happened to prayer, grace, righteousness, love and co? Do these have anything to do with your newfound black gods?

donnie:
After calling us dreamers for showing you desert of Seth (Adam's son) in Africa and claiming in previous posts that humanity started around the middle East/Mediterranean ...

I just knew that your short term memory, your inadequate attention span and chronic inability to carefully read long post to a sensible manner of flowing with it to understand, will be a tall order to expect from, lmao.

I am not surprised that you are again cooking up lies and making false allegations, you have no proof of, that you are unable to back up with evidence that I at any time typed anywhere on Nairaland about "... humanity started around the middle East/Mediterranean ..."

I am a reasonable fella and fair minded, so I'll give you the chance to produce here, either copy and paste or get a screenshot capture of where I ever said that "... humanity started around the middle East/Mediterranean ...". Now donnie, Baba d, in the absence of you able to do just that, I demand that you retract your character assassination and the lie purporting that I said "... humanity started around the middle East/Mediterranean ..." and tender a profuse apology for your bad behaviour and for telling blatant lies about me.

donnie:
... you're now showing a map with Eden in Africa

"¹⁰Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it branched into four headwaters:
¹¹The name of the first river is Pishon; it winds through the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold.
¹²And the gold of that land is pure, and bdellium and onyx are found there.
¹³The name of the second river is Gihon; it winds through the whole land of Cush.
¹⁴The name of the third river is Hiddekel; it runs along the east side of Assyria.
And the fourth river is the Euphrates."
- Genesis 2:10-14

Smh, and when people who have had a tertiary education are asked to come out, you too will step forward abi Baba d?.

Baba d, you have a serious handicap in reading a post through and follow with understanding deficient. Simple comprehension of seeing the correlation of that map with the mention of Alkebulan, which incidentally means "mother of mankind" or "garden of Eden" just went over your head, like as if its a Naija Airforce fighter jet. You need Yahushua. Smh

donnie:
You are not well at all. And to be cured, it will require your humble acceptance that you were wrong. And you don't have that humility. I don't admire your position at all because the more you put up lies, the more truth stares you in the face. For now, you're still in the dark and actually undeserving of a response.

I don't believe, you still have the cheek and temerity to try bluff your way out of the big mess you are in

donnie:
How wouldn't berbers be white? ...Brainwashed thing.

You are always one to be a poor student/teacher of history, so I am not surprised at your ignorance.

khia:
I didn't even read past the silver bronze comment, that was enough for me to understand that you wallow in ignorance and you are proud of it.

Upon sighting "silver bronze" (i.e. white brass) you wouldn't read past them two words because of your biblically uneducated. Now donnie, knows a lot of believers don't know their left hand side bible from the right hand side, so he capitalise to exploit this and feeds people with lies, poorly researched histories, racial supremacy hair-brained ideas, misinterpreted bible narratives, misinformation and mission to paint the face of Jesus black.

I set a trap for you with the "silver bronze", and just as I expected you'll do, you went for cheese. Smh. I already knew I was dealing with a feather weight, you slipping on that Revelation 1:15, gave me the proof I was looking for.

khia:
Bronze do not turn into silver after being burnt in a fire.

Who said it turned into silver. Smh. Fyi, that verse is talking of brass which has attained in the furnace a white heat.

khia:
You try very hard to protect your white Jesus, which is an abomination ...

You have learnt from the master strawmannirg specialist, donnie, Baba d.

Fyi, I don't have to protect that which doesn't exist. There is no white Jesus. There is no black Jesus. That which doesn't exist cannot be an abomination.

khia:
... You will reap what you sow.

Whatever you initiate so shall it boomerang back to sender

MuttleyLaff:
Upon sighting "silver bronze" (i.e. white brass) you wouldn't read past them two words because of your biblically uneducated. Now donnie, knows a lot of believers don't know their left hand side bible from the right hand side, so he capitalise to exploit this and feeds people with lies, poorly researched histories, racial supremacy hair-brained ideas, misinterpreted bible narratives, misinformation and mission to paint the face of Jesus black.

I set a trap for you with the "silver bronze", and just as I expected you'll do, you went for cheese. Smh. I already knew I was dealing with a feather weight, you slipping on that Revelation 1:15, gave me the proof I was looking for.

Who said it turned into silver. Smh. Fyi, that verse is talking of brass which has attained in the furnace a white heat.

You have learnt from the master strawmannirg specialist, donnie, Baba d.

Fyi, I don't have to protect that which doesn't exist. There is no white Jesus. There is no black Jesus. That which doesn't exist cannot be an abomination.

Whatever you initiate so shall it boomerang back to sender

1. First of all my statements and beliefs has nothing to do with Donnie, I don't even know him. Unlike you I have a mind of my own. You set a trap and trapped nobody but yourself.

2. Biblically uneducated you say? Unlike you I don't go on blind faith and believe anything those money hungry, hypocritical, lying pastors/priest have to say I study the Bible on my own, I even took biblical courses in college. That is why your lack of knowledge and twisting of the scriptures astounds me.

3. As far as Yahushua is concerned, I know he was a great black prophet but I don't believe he is the son of Yah.

khia:
1. First of all my statements and beliefs has nothing to do with Donnie, I don't even know him.

I careless if you do or don't personally know him, what I've noticed is you slurping up all the bile he spills bullpiss the place

khia:
Unlike you I have a mind of my own. You set a trap and trapped nobody but yourself.

Yup, the one with "silver bronze", which you have no clue what it's really about

khia:
2. Biblically uneducated you say?

Affirmative and without a shadow of doubt

khia:
Unlike you I don't go on blind faith and believe anything those money hungry, hypocritical, lying pastors have to say

Pfttt. You must either be psychic, a winch or the fly that comes to my home to know this so much about me

khia:
I study the Bible on my own

If you really did and do study Bible on your own, you would have known about what silver-bronze is

khia:
I even took biblical courses in college.

Yeah, at the seminary dead people's cemetary abi?

khia:
That is why your lack of knowledge and twisting of the scriptures astounds me.

Soot calling snow black

khia:
3. As far as Yahushua is concerned, I know he was a great black prophet

Good on ya

khia:
but I don't believe he is the son of Yah.

Good on ya

MuttleyLaff:








Adam, the Hebrew word for "man", a human being, is derived from Hebrew word that has a meaning indicating "to be red" and hence referring to the ruddy colour of the human skin, as in, reddish brown, just like Noah, Shem, that's Noah's middle son, king David, Esau etcetera had.

Yahushua Ha Mashsiach, aka Jesus Christ, is Semitic in origin, thats meaning, He is a descendant of Shem and is genealogically traced straight down to the first man Adam, and He is not black and neither is He white, but He is in-between white and black. He had a ruddy colour of human being skin, which of course upon exposure to sun, dust or heat would expectingly become darkened

You have been saying this thing since that human race started in the middle East. That is the Bible perspective of creation

Scientist believe the world started in Africa. It's really an out of Africa project.

When Tracing color stop calling Noah if you read the book of Enoch when Noah was born he father was outraged he even accused Noah mother of sleeping with the fallen angels. He exclaimed that his eyes is as bright as the sun. Lamech was even afraid to touch Noah.

There are many versions to a story stop using Bible as authority

@donnie God bless you

MuttleyLaff:
I just knew that your short term memory, your inadequate attention span and chronic inability to carefully read long post to a sensible manner of flowing with it to understand, will be a tall order to expect from, lmao.

donnie:


It's not surprising that many cultures share similar concepts of creation, salvation etc. REASON is, they were all taught by one man (NOAH) after the flood (deluge). He taught his three sons this knowledge which he recieved from the ancinets, and they carried this knowledge into all nations and in their generations. They knew about the Salvation of YAHUAH even from the time of Enoch who prophesied about this salvation coming in the last days.

And by the way, the Egyptian civilization was formed as a result of early migrations from West/central Africa. So they were not the earliest civilization.

Desert of SETH, Adam's son...

MuttleyLaff:

What?!
Early migrations from West/central Africa to North Africa, smh donnie. What are you smoking on Monday morning, first day of the working week?

I don't have a problem with reading long posts, but reading long winding posts with so much falsehood is the problem. Not really worth my time.

We have already established that you're a liar. And that's as expected since you have to defend all the lies of white people. My only concern is the pride and shamelessness with which you go about it.

IMO01:


Y[b]ou have been saying this thing since that human race started in the middle East. That is the Bible perspective of creation
[/b]
Scientist believe the world started in Africa. It's really an out of Africa project.

When Tracing color stop calling Noah if you read the book of Enoch when Noah was born he father was outraged he even accused Noah mother of sleeping with the fallen angels. He exclaimed that his eyes is as bright as the sun. Lamech was even afraid to touch Noah.

There are many versions to a story stop using Bible as authority

@donnie God bless you

Don't mind the rogue