Hathor5:


Do you know anyone who called the cops on their parents? I don't. Nigerians repeat this story over and over again like it is a normal occurrence abroad but when you ask them if they know anyone, they don't. I was having the same discussion with someone a few weeks ago and asked this question and he said that a Nigerian dad married to a white lady had problems because he kicked his two-year-old so I asked if the 2-year-old-son was the one to call the cops. And why would anyone kick a toddler in the first place?

I saw the responses you were given and how you asked for statistics so maybe you should lead by example and give us the statistics of children abroad calling the cops.

scott04:

look around you our politicians,yahoo,million boys, police turned beggars,sars,army,marlians and cultist everywhere are all enough evidence to show that everything is wrong with our style of parenting. the baba of all is poverty mentality and low self esteem installed in us by our parents. they also dont encourage creativity.........

DexterousOne:


Tho there are other aspects I dont agree with when it comes to "African parenting"
I have to say that you are making a valid point


At the end of the day........
Some reform is what is needed
Not a complete throwaway

Lionessza6:
1.I think a lot African parents ( mothers in particular), tend to treat their sons as mini-kings who can do no wrong in their eyes. This is where the culture of Male entitlement starts from; the upbringing. The boys grow up with a sense of superiority that somehow absolves them of certain responsibilities.

2. Staying in toxic relationships for the children. In many cases,the children end-up worse off psychologically ,than kids coming out of two healthy parents living separately.

3. The "if Kevin can do it ,you can do it too ".mentality. you have a lot of parents who see the neighbour's kid doing well selling bread ,& they start pushing their own children towards that trade or career without assisting them in what they are really good at so that they too can be a shining example in their own right. You see the results of this in many African markets ,everyone sells the samethings ,hardly will you find people who produce the products or selling something that is not readily available.

jadyclem:


Excuse me sir, are you of the view that government should reform the African parenting style?
Hmmm, anything wey African government get involved in dey get k-leg o! In stead of reform I think there should be a kind of awareness to parents on what is no longer acceptable in our style of parenting. But e go still hard small because kids respond to their parents differently based on the level of connection and trust they have in such parent. I hail thee!

DexterousOne:
government ke?
I'm talking of the parents themselves

There needs to be some changes on their part

If govt enter tori
E go cast

abbey621:


Apart from having tons of family members here in the USA, I also worked for a company that deals with lots of social worker cases. My very own cousin called the cops on his mom when he was 11 because she gave him the typical 9ja mama slaps and my sister acidently dialled 911 and the cops showed up thinking she was being abused(It also wasn't helpdful that when they showed up my dad had her kneeling down with her hands raised as punishment ). I had a friend who called cops on his stepdad because the man was verbally abusive to his mom. More and more examples but the greatest ones are available right her on the internet, simply search these words on Google "child calls cops on parent".

Hathor5:


Social worker cases are not representative of the entire population. It is akin to a foreigner who has only been to Banana Island saying that all Nigerians enjoy the same standard of living. I don't know how anyone can accidentally call 911 but I agree, slapping someone's face is abuse of power. I don't need to search anything on Google to confirm your bias. Maybe you should use google to search for healthy families instead of using your own family to speak for 350 million Americans.

sweetilicious:
African parents don't know how to say "I love you"

abbey621:


I think you lack comprehension skills, go back and read my initial post. Social worker cases are in every state, anything that deals with children and abuse or neglect goes through them so I don't know WTF you're talking about and while I don't know the exact figures of children calling cops on their parents in the USA, I do know that it happens hence your theory that you don't know any children that called cops on their parents is only true for you. I gave you the queries to search for on Google so that you know these cases exist, nowhere did I say it happens in all American household, once again comprehend instead of trying to score cheap comeback points!

abbey621:


Being a politician is not a crime inherently, just like a greedy CEO, there's nothing a parent can do to stop son or daughter from being overly ambitious/greedy. Police turn beggars, SARS, Army, when dows these things automatically equate criminality? Your only point is yahoo and cultists, yet these group accounts for less than 20% of all youths in 9ja(You want to compare the amount of cultists in 9ja with the amount of gangstas in the USA? I think that's where you'll see that 9ja is still child's play compared to what goes on abroad....So sir I repeat get some real facts before pulling stats!

scott04:

what you are saying is that for more than 80% of our politician to be corrupted got ntin to do with our parenting style, that most of our youth have no honour nor selfwort or dignity that most of them think ntin is wrong in being a scammer or fraudster, that weed and other hard drugs is now seen as smtin normal that every one of them is a potential scammer and liar got ntin 2 do with our parents. almost all public and private offices are all corrupted and you got 2 bribe your ways or get high connection before you can do anything significant and that also got ntin 2 do with our ways of child upbringing. look at our slay queens and girls most of them use their pussy as anoder form of hustle. harrasment by uniform personel is another thing entirely and you are here saying its not criminality. you are talking about gangsta when we all knew that most of them are blacks. we are all a product of our society and the society itself is the product of parenting style now look at our society and look at the western's which 1 u go choose? child abuse is rampant every where hardly will you visit a street here in 9ja without seeing small children hawking here and there with no consideration on the physical and psychological effect on the child. parent take out their fustration due to simple mistake by children or even them becoz they are easy target and defensless claiming its correction and upon all the beatings our society never change for good but keep on getting worse. no parenting style is perfect but saying african style is better than the western is wrong. i would rather have my son chalenge me when am wrong than having him keep silent becoz of fear thereby making him docile and unable to identify or defend his right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_officials_convicted_of_corruption_offenses

abbey621:


Stop mixing apples with oranges! You want to equate bad parenting with poverty? I keep telling you to produce statistics to back up your claim but you reuse instead you chose to continue the same emotional rhetoric that defies intellectual reasoning. For example, why compare 9ja with abroad? Why not compare 9ja with a place like Columbia, India, Pakistan, Venezuela etc? You seriously believe if 9ja had good leaders like a place such as USA or the UK that children would hawk in the streets? You think if Police and Military were paid well, they would need to collect bribes? Do you believe if we had more jobs than graduates that our youths would risk it all in yahoo or hard drugs? You mentioned politicians being corrupt and you attribute it to parenting style and not human nature? YOU'RE A JOKER! Let me give you a brief history lesson, look at the USA, at the age of 243 years, they've come a long way but guess what they still have corrupt politicians from kickbacks to using their office for personal gains. Let's go back to when the USA was youn glike 9ja, in the 1830s, the USA still had people in slavery, women couldn't vote, governors and other politicians committing fraud and so on. Back then according to you, their parents were bad parents . If you don't believe me check out this link :



I've seen people like you before, the other side is always perfect until you actually do some research and see that not all that glitters is gold, you would rather your son challenge you when you're wrong, even if challenging you means pushing you, punching you, calling the cops on you etc, YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT MY FRIEND!

abbey621:


Stop mixing apples with oranges! You want to equate bad parenting with poverty? I keep telling you to produce statistics to back up your claim but you reuse instead you chose to continue the same emotional rhetoric that defies intellectual reasoning. For example, why compare 9ja with abroad? Why not compare 9ja with a place like Columbia, India, Pakistan, Venezuela etc? You seriously believe if 9ja had good leaders like a place such as USA or the UK that children would hawk in the streets? You think if Police and Military were paid well, they would need to collect bribes? Do you believe if we had more jobs than graduates that our youths would risk it all in yahoo or hard drugs? You mentioned politicians being corrupt and you attribute it to parenting style and not human nature? YOU'RE A JOKER! Let me give you a brief history lesson, look at the USA, at the age of 243 years, they've come a long way but guess what they still have corrupt politicians from kickbacks to using their office for personal gains. Let's go back to when the USA was youn glike 9ja, in the 1830s, the USA still had people in slavery, women couldn't vote, governors and other politicians committing fraud and so on. Back then according to you, their parents were bad parents . If you don't believe me check out this link :



I've seen people like you before, the other side is always perfect until you actually do some research and see that not all that glitters is gold, you would rather your son challenge you when you're wrong, even if challenging you means pushing you, punching you, calling the cops on you etc, YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT MY FRIEND!

scott04:

bad parenting and poverty are inseperatable sibling. wherever there is bad parenting there must be poverty. there is not much difference between the african and those countries u mentioned parenting style and u can clearly see our situation compare to the western world

abbey621:


Stop mixing apples with oranges! You want to equate bad parenting with poverty? I keep telling you to produce statistics to back up your claim but you reuse instead you chose to continue the same emotional rhetoric that defies intellectual reasoning. For example, why compare 9ja with abroad? Why not compare 9ja with a place like Columbia, India, Pakistan, Venezuela etc? You seriously believe if 9ja had good leaders like a place such as USA or the UK that children would hawk in the streets? You think if Police and Military were paid well, they would need to collect bribes? Do you believe if we had more jobs than graduates that our youths would risk it all in yahoo or hard drugs? You mentioned politicians being corrupt and you attribute it to parenting style and not human nature? YOU'RE A JOKER! Let me give you a brief history lesson, look at the USA, at the age of 243 years, they've come a long way but guess what they still have corrupt politicians from kickbacks to using their office for personal gains. Let's go back to when the USA was youn glike 9ja, in the 1830s, the USA still had people in slavery, women couldn't vote, governors and other politicians committing fraud and so on. Back then according to you, their parents were bad parents . If you don't believe me check out this link :



I've seen people like you before, the other side is always perfect until you actually do some research and see that not all that glitters is gold, you would rather your son challenge you when you're wrong, even if challenging you means pushing you, punching you, calling the cops on you etc, YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT MY FRIEND!

abbey621:


YOU'RE SPEWING TRASH! My grandfather had 8 kids, he was policeman and his wife sold food at the canteen. They raised their children with the little they had and believed if a child is fed well such a child can concentrate on other things. They were taught value of family and compassion, this led all 8 children to the ability to overcome stuggles both in the childhood and adult lives. My second girlfriend in life was a spoiled rich kid who spent her dad's money on boys, parties and luxury. She had it all but hard drugs took control of her, I tried to redeem her but what's an average boy from Mushin to do? She eventually fell to her addiction. I have cousins that were pampered from the start and ended up being lazy as hell, up till now in their 30s they can't keep a job, even when mommy's money ran out they still could not see the implications of their actions.

I grew up in Mushin, went to the university in Ogun State and rose beyond all that to hold 5 different degrees and a shitload of certifications and awards, by your classification I was raised by bad parents because boy o boy, we had days where we couldn't even afford garri but you're dead wrong! POVERTY IS NOT SYNONYMOUS WITH BAD PARENTING, just like giving all the money in the world to your children does not make you a GOOD PARENT!

scott04:

please what statistic do u need than the glaring evidence i kept pointing at all around you. poverty and bad parenting are both inseperatable twin one of them being present in a society signify the presence of the other. india and all other countries you mention practise the same form of parenting with africa and see where they are 2day. they also encourage child abuse being practise by most african countries 2day nd see what poverty is doin 2 dem. do u even know what bad parenting is at all now look at theseh an okada rider going ahead to av more than six child isnt that bad parenting in all ramification? these is encourage all around us so tell how it got ntin 2 do with poverty fucking us. come down 2 lagos and see for urself how teenager smoke weed and other hard drug shamelessly, how more than half of them see ntin wrong in being a fraudster. people lyk emoney,mompha,hushpupi,ramon jago are now our youth role model and you still think ntin is wrong with our form of parenting? hardly will you go to any community in 9ja 2day without seeing premature pregnancy littering everywhere. ask any1 u knw working as chemist the rate at which abortion drug is sort after by our youth. look the level of homosexuality in our surrounding even though we are trying 2 hide it can u tell me all these got ntin 2 do with bad parenting?? visit the north and see for urself the high level of child marriage and molestation so all these is good parenting abi?? most of us support jungle justice is that a good reflection of a society that claim to be morally sound and decipline?? would our ancestor av being colonized and enslave if our parenting style truely encourage love morality and decipline? or u haven't heard how family members sold each other during the slave trade era the truth is that our parenting style as always being bad or even worse compare 2 the west although we choose to ignore the truth and live in false illusion. i could go on and on and about the wikipedia link i could easily flaw it but i got no tym now am enjoying my red dead redemption 2

abbey621:


Once again mixing apple with oranges. Imagine using India as your example, try fitting 1 Billion people in America and see how it turns out....LMAO, even at that the Indian people still rank high in the most disciplined in the world, half their population is filled with programmers, engineers and so on. Like I said before if your statement was factual then countries like the USA or England won't have high rate of drug abuse, they wouldn't have a high rate of gun violence or suicide rate either. I mean if poverty automatically equates to bad parenting, shouldn't a wealthy society equate good parenting? If that's the case what's your explanation for the USA? THERE'S NONE, so I REPEAT YOU'RE JUST FULL OF SHIT!

scott04:

i will ignore the insult for the last time you unable to argue intelligently without insult speak of how you were brought up.

so why cant i use india one of the poverty capital of the world and also home of all manner of sexual abuse and rape as an example you said indian are well know for being decipline lol u are living in delusion bro. u said i should try fitting 1 billion people in usa?? thats the dumbest analysis i av ever seen. going by ur statistic let see what can apun when usa got 1billion citizen. usa is the number 1 economic giant in the world followed by china. china got 1.4billion citizen and are managing it just well so you see usa having 1billion citizen aint doing shit 2 dem. that simple logical reasoning. the india you said is filled with engineer is still the second poverty capital of the world so i wonder why they kept swimming in poverty if they are decipline as you claim.


i wonder why nigeria also have high rate of child abuse,fraudster,corruption,scammer,drug abuse,prostitution,ignorance,child marriage,bokoharam,heardsmen,pastorprenuer and top grade poverty and bad leadership when we have the most perfect style of parenting.


i wonder when you will counter my claims instead of running here and there....

abbey621:


i have countered your claims over and over again and each time you come up with even more BS. I repeat , you're full of shit and no amount of hogwash typed by you will ever change that! I only used India as an example to show you not all of them are poverty stricken, not all of them are uneducated or ill mannered. Moving on, you want to lecture me on world history, child please! I did my third masters while traveling between 17 countries and auditing over 78 businesses, I own a stake in 14 diferent businesses and 6 of them are in China, my sources are the Chinese people themselves. Go and read up on the history of China, China in the 60s, 70s, 80s and even 90s was a shithole! They had to make a drastic decision by imposing a one child system on the populace before things got better. China does not run a democracy hence they can impose any laws for the greater good, the USA and India are democratic systems hence the comparison. The US is the number one economy in the world but that's because you see things from the superficial level and lack indepth analysis. The United States has a 26 Trillion dollar debt problem and this is with a population of less than 400 million, you think a 150% increase in the population won't break the country? Why do you think Trump is against illegal immigrants and immigration as a whole? You're a joker, I can smell your BS from miles away, stick to those who don't know their left from right okay!

scott04:

lolz i can see you are insecure and lack comprehensive skill. who is lecturing you on history of the world here huh? even a smart 10years old in sweden should know that china practise socialism and all the shit you wrote up there. not all nigerians are also poverty stricken but more than half of them are and u knw majority carry the vote.

you claim 2 be intelligent yet can figure out simple economic boosting technique. the us governmen owe 70% of their debt to their social security lol lyk a country borrowing from itself. the remaining 30% debt is to countries lyk china,japan their biggest business patners. these country buys and invest in us treasury dominated by dollar the strongest currency so that the would keep on buying from them and also to serve as plan b and bailout fund incase their economy colapse. A country that kept pumping billions into millitary, intelligence and giving free bailout fund to its allies is said to owe trillion without benefit and you easily believe?? smh. a country with the highest debt yet could sanction anyother countries that misbehave is said to owe without benefit??

and the immigration issue got ntin to do with debt but the increase in crime rate commited by outsider and enforcing the american first idea. a wise country with high debt will need large amount of man power and talents it could get i hope you can wrap ur brain around that fact.
and lastly that you own 50million stake or av 20 certificate bla bla bla is useless here. your writeup speak about your low self esteem and insecurity. i may also claim am steve jobs first born and ntin go apun. if you wanna brag u can drop ur name so i can search and learn about ur achievement.


you cant event counter or put up intelligent arguement on my claims rather u ar going off point. i guess u ar living in a self made mirage illusion by ur mind.

abbey621:


[s]you claim 2 be intelligent yet can figure out simple economic boosting technique. the us governmen owe 70% of their debt to their social security lol lyk a country borrowing from itself. the remaining 30% debt is to countries lyk china,japan their biggest business patners. these country buys and invest in us treasury dominated by dollar the strongest currency so that the would keep on buying from them and also to serve as plan b and bailout fund incase their economy colapse. A country that kept pumping billions into millitary, intelligence and giving free bailout fund to its allies is said to owe trillion without benefit and you easily believe?? smh. a country with the highest debt yet could sanction anyother countries that misbehave is said to owe without benefit??
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Honestly stop typing/talking, you're a slowpoke, good night!

chioma2020:


I serious don't like it.. I got so pissed off today.

Ebenezer2O20:
hi dear! we seem to have the same moniker
I'm pretty sure we'd have the same orientations, belief and ideologies..
I'm Ebenezer by name.
can we be friends?

Ebenezer2O20:
hi dear! we seem to have the same moniker
I'm pretty sure we'd have the same orientations, belief and ideologies..
I'm Ebenezer by name.
can we be friends?