Jimi24:

Aradu is a destroyer

Aradu is a frigate.

So this frigate is still in service?

Jimi24:

Aradu is a destroyer

It's a fucking frigate

Thank you for the compliment. It means a lot ...God bless you

Temiel:


You definitely know what you're talking about.
Comments like this is why I am still on Nairaland.

Nigeria doesn't need a navy with all these plenty admirals stealing money left right and center, chancing civilians up and down. All Nigeria needs is a coast guard, or a marine arm of the regular police. We don't need an air force either.

Jimi24:

Aradu is a destroyer

Frigate. Nigeria has never bought a destroyer. We have never needed one. Our Navy is not blue water doctrinal.

NuclearGodzilla:


No likes for you

I don't need it as i don't comment for people to like...now adays if you notice stupidity is being celebrated most soooo i don't care

Reference:


Na. The cost of maintenence wiil not be worth it. It is like taking a Volkswagen Beetle on a cross country journey. It can do it but you must be prepared to sleep in the bush. Ships are not only engines but systems too and these are manufacturer specific and will no longer have parts to replace.

Remember, this ship was bought about the time we were purchasing Russian Mig 21 aircraft and T-72 and even before the Alpha jet series that have all been retired. It is a very old ship. Good job to keep it floating all these years but at 40 years old this year, it should be retired.

What Nigeria should be doing with this ship is to retire it and send it to our Naval Colleges for study towards reverse enginering. That is what China and India did. That is how they started building their own massive military industrial complex.

Am very happy with your reply as you replied intelligently... Someone would have attacked me...lol
Though the Alpha jets are still in service and still used for air strikes in the north east

Babatunde40:
In topics like this, people rush to be first to comment. Then they have nothing to say after booking space. Lol

I am impressed that we have a dockyard that can do repairs and refitting even if we can't build our own ships yet

we built NNS Andoni

Cutealexio:
Nice move but as it stands now we have only minimal control on pirates causing mayhem in our coastal territories. The government should eradicate this by providing enough gun boats, frigates and Corrvetes. We don't need submarine or aircraft carrier (jet) yet but what we need is at least two helicopter carrier with transport and attack choppers, that can respond to any pirate activities in our coastal territory. I know the Nigerian Navy has an agreement with most neighbouring west African countries and that was why the Nigerian Navy was able to rescue the Chinese fishing vessels that was hijacked at Ivory Coast few days ago. This frigate is too old and it will only be used for training of the personnel that will man the New frigate Nigeria just ordered. Lastly, no Navy can be strong without producing its own ships. China has the second best Navy in the world today and they achieved this by manufacturing their own battle ships and importing few of its weapon system. Nigeria Navy should enlarge its flying wings for Swift operation

what kind of agreement do we have with our neighbours and provide links to how we rescued foreigners from pirates when there is enormous pirate activities going on in our waters?
i do not think Aradu is too old. there are ships still in service in the US and Russian Navies that are over 50 years old. ships do not become obsolete.
and china cannot be the second best navy in the world. not even in their neighbourhood can they be compared to the Japanese Navy or even the south Korean Navy.

alabo1:


What a joke. Our naval flagship is a frigate. There was indeed a country.

for our level and perceived threat.

Vivian16:
under whose administration was it acquired So that I go know wetin I wan comment.

Shagari

KingAzubuike:
The whole Nigerian navy is no match for ordinary US Coast guards.

With warships like the Abdel Nasser , Egypt and South Africa currently has the best warships and navy in Africa. The Nigerian Navy barely makes the top 7. Even Asari dokubo's boys are better equipped than the Nigerian navy.

Wait make we jam you first

KingAzubuike:
The whole Nigerian navy is no match for ordinary US Coast guards.

With warships like the Abdel Nasser , Egypt and South Africa currently has the best warships and navy in Africa. The Nigerian Navy barely makes the top 7. Even Asari dokubo's boys are better equipped than the Nigerian navy.

Wait make we jam you first

Usorohtheman:


when I think about the wonders of the west, I just feel God cheated us (the blacks) and at such the whites are superior to us.

Come to think of you, Africans have never made any breakthrough in science here in the shores of Africa. We tend to do better outside here.

that's untrue!
there is nothing they are doing which is too huge, if you understand the nature of the human being and the universe.
the reason we have not been able to do much is because we do not encourage philosophical inquiry.
out of the box thinking is culturally discourage.
when i ask you how the human being came into existence, you will probably say Adam and Eve.
when evolution is presented to you, you will be the first to denounce it (of course, i do not mean you in particular).
the understanding of evolution and coming to truly see it as how man and all life forms came about can really be a true door opener and a game changer!
also, quantum mechanics and relativity among other scientific and social scientific ideas; when they are understood not just as academic ideas learnt in school, but as the description of reality itself, then a new portal will open up in the mind of such individual. he not only become aware of enormous possibilities, he also become equiped with all the cognitive, psychomotor and affective skills to bring about something culturally revolutional

Reference:


The Obasanjo administration I think but delivered during the Shagari regime. I have boarded it once and had lots of mags sent to me on subscription from Voss, the ship builder. Used to be badass in those days with Exocet missile capabilities from MBDA, France. But c'mon that is too long ago. The vessel ought to be retired by now.

but ships live very long life span.
also, what do you recommend for the navy?
in what service did you serve?

KingAzubuike:
The whole Nigerian navy is no match for ordinary US Coast guards.

With warships like the Abdel Nasser , Egypt and South Africa currently has the best warships and navy in Africa. The Nigerian Navy barely makes the top 7. Even Asari dokubo's boys are better equipped than the Nigerian navy.

Why not enter the Nigerian water way with the militants and see if the Nigerian Navy is well equipped or not. Them go sink you inside your vessel

Aradu is really old, the weapon systems has become obsolete. The only solution to it will probably be stripping it off its navigation and weapon systems into skeleton in other to reinstall modern ones but that will be as good as buying a new frigate The Nigerian Navy nicknamed it ministry of works because there's always one problem to fix. The agreement signed by Japan after they surrendered to the US was that their armed forces will only maintain defensive roles, they can't buy a lot of weapons even if they want to. How can you say South Korean Navy is better than Chinese Navy?
How many Nuclear submarine do they have?
How many aircraft carriers do they have? Chinese Navy is the best in Asia and second best in the world...Do your research

MiddleDimension:

what kind of agreement do we have with our neighbours and provide links to how we rescued foreigners from pirates when there is enormous pirate activities going on in our waters?
i do not think Aradu is too old. there are ships still in service in the US and Russian Navies that are over 50 years old. ships do not become obsolete.
and china cannot be the second best navy in the world. not even in their neighbourhood can they be compared to the Japanese Navy or even the south Korean Navy.

This ship is actually very big and the inside is just something else chai I really miss going to work .covid you've really turn life around for most of us .

Lanrelagboi:
https://twitter.com/DefenseNigeria/status/1262803705138733059?s=19

https://twitter.com/DefenseNigeria/status/1262815896415997955?s=19

https://twitter.com/DefenseNigeria/status/1262815899708465153?s=19

This is one of the best warship in the Nigerian Navy fleet. With this running in 100% capacity with the NNS Unity, NNS Thunder and co matching side by side, we will successfully keep the Nigeria and west African water way safe

fashrola:


Seriously? Or you just jumped into conclusion? We have qualified Naval Architect in Nigeria and have a Ship Yard (especially WAS yard, Onne) to build a ship of more than 4000GRT

We have ship yard yet Total FPSO was built in Korea? Dock yard is what you are referring to as ship building yard?

Thetruthalways:

I wonder how someone will comment rubbish...and people will be liking that rubbish... Smh

It shows that a lot of Nigerians are brain dead....comparing a countries Navy to tompolo or Asari dokubo..lol, You can never ever be stronger than your government. It takes minutes for Nigerian Navy to level the whole Niger delta.

@S400 and @jln115 what do you both think about this ship? and how do you both rate the NN?

subcbouy:
We have ship yard yet Total FPSO was built in Korea? Dock yard is what you are referring to as ship building yard?

Dockyard can be used interchangeably with Shipyard depending on the activities to be carried out... It can be expanded to accommodate the type of vessels to be built, WAS Onne can build a vessel of more than 3000 GRT if need be so you call that a dockyard? They have built fiberglass patrol boats, RHIB boats, Surfers etc

Total FPSO was choose to be built in South Korea due to availability of man-power, materials, expertise etc

MiddleDimension:
@S400 and @jln115 what do you both think about this ship? and how do you both rate the NN?

The Meko 360 is a great platform and personally I've always advocated that NNS Aradu be refitted, instead of buying a new Frigate.......However te seems she has been neglected to long and thus is to obsolete to function as a Frigate, and would now rather be used as a training and patrol vessel at this stage.

As for the NN imo its by far the strongest Navy in WA, however as with 90% of African Navies it isn't a true blue water navy and lacks anti ship and anti sub capability..............However this isn't saying that the Nigerian navy isn't as efficient in fulfilling its mandate or as professional as blue water navies

IMO this would be my Ranking of African Navies:

1. Egypt
2. Algeria
3. South Africa
4. Morocco ( only because SA has Submarines otherwise they would be 3rd)
5. Nigeria

Racoon:
This ship is a frigate? Cheap glorification.NNS Aradu is too old hence should be decommissioned.Others like NNS Thunder should lead the charge.

NNS Thunder is 15 years older than NNS Aradu..........

MiddleDimension:

that's untrue!
there is nothing they are doing which is too huge, if you understand the nature of the human being and the universe.
the reason we have not been able to do much is because we do not encourage philosophical inquiry.
out of the box thinking is culturally discourage.
when i ask you how the human being came into existence, you will probably say Adam and Eve.
when evolution is presented to you, you will be the first to denounce it (of course, i do not mean you in particular).
the understanding of evolution and coming to truly see it as how man and all life forms came about can really be a true door opener and a game changer!
also, quantum mechanics and relativity among other scientific and social scientific ideas; when they are understood not just as academic ideas learnt in school, but as the description of reality itself, then a new portal will open up in the mind of such individual. he not only become aware of enormous possibilities, he also become equiped with all the cognitive, psychomotor and affective skills to bring about something culturally revolutional

then, what's stopping us from the philosophical enquiry investment? That is the problem bro. We hardly understand anything here.

GamalNasser:


It's a fucking frigate

Its both a Frigate and a Destroyer....it all depends on the parameters a country uses to classify their ships.....the NN classifies it as a Frigate and the Argentinian navy classifies it as a destroyer.

But in today's terms there isn't really major difference between Destroyers and Frigates!

jln115:

Its both a Frigate and a Destroyer....it all depends on the parameters a country uses to classify their ships.....the NN classifies it as a Frigate and the Argentinian navy classifies it as a destroyer.

But in today's terms there isn't really major difference between Destroyers and Frigates!

Why is the Argentine Navy classifying NNS Aradu a purpose built frigate as a destroyer ? Oga Destroyers are larger and faster than frigates even though the may both perform the same task of battle group escort And shielding frigates usually accepted size is 130 meters long while Destroyers start at 170 meters in hull length ..they are not the same

ProfAmaben:
Nigerian Navy 3908 men to one ship

US Navy 34 men to one ship

Even if I don't care about anything Nigeria as at now, I can still say, they're having over 15 vessels on water, d last time I check, the navy were having NNS over 15 and they've acquired more..

It was the Air force section that was lacking equipments, but now they're being equipped yearly.. Just dat, I expect advanced equipments evn if not d latest, due to price, but near the modern ones..

femixville:


Even if I don't care about anything Nigeria as at now, I can still say, they're having over 15 vessels on water, d last time I check, the navy were having NNS over 15 and they've acquired more..

It was the Air force section that was lacking equipments, but now they're being equipped yearly.. Just dat, I expect advanced equipments evn if not d latest, due to price, but near the modern ones..

You didn't mention the type of vessel, all vessels are not equal.

fashrola:


Dockyard can be used interchangeably with Shipyard depending on the activities to be carried out... It can be expanded to accommodate the type of vessels to be built, WAS Onne can build a vessel of more than 3000 GRT if need be so you call that a dockyard? They have built fiberglass patrol boats, RHIB boats, Surfers etc

Total FPSO was choose to be built in South Korea due to availability of man-power, materials, expertise etc

Funny you! why no man-power, materials and expertise? when I did say initially that we have no naval architecture and you are arguing with me. But saying it was chosen is ridiculous thought. Did you know billions lost to Korean for this project? bro, we don't have ship building yard, simple.

GamalNasser:


Why is the Argentine Navy classifying NNS Aradu a purpose built frigate as a destroyer ? Oga Destroyers are larger and faster than frigates even though the may both perform the same task of battle group escort And shielding frigates usually accepted size is 130 meters long while Destroyers start at 170 meters in hull length ..they are not the same

what? No bro the Argentinian Navy also operate the Meko 360 which is what the NNS Aradu is....but in Argentina they are called Almirante Brown class destroyer

Secondly Destroyerers are not faster in actual fact they slower... Also classification is different from country to country however traditionally classification was based of tonnage and armament not length.

However in modern times weapon systems are getting smaller and more efficient hence why ships are getting smaller... This is the reason why we don't see Cruisers and Battleships anymore as they are basically obsolete.

Just to give you an example of how well armed Frigates are today:

MEKO 200 Frigate(operated by the Algerian and SA has 16ASMs, 32SAMs, 127mm/76mm gun and 2x triple torpedo tubes.... They are basically just as well armed as any Destroyer like the Hobert class or F125 class.

Also modern destroyers very rarely have a length of 160m... I would say on average modern day destroyers are around 150m