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Abuja: The Scottish View. by azorjiu(m): 9:36pm On Jun 10, 2007 |
This should have been posted on the sports section, but i decided to have it here because of its political undertone. Scots are at it again. Does the articule below represent the state of affairs in my country? link http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_headline=tell-the-world--&method=full&objectid=19274210&siteid=64736-name_page.html 10 June 2007 |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by Seun(m): 9:39pm On Jun 10, 2007 |
Post a link to the web page where you copied this from, please. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by MILITIA(f): 10:00pm On Jun 10, 2007 |
@Topic I dey laff! You think the world is stupid like Nigerians! What you do not understand is the the outside world knows more about Nigeria than you think! They have dealt with us for ages and know us well well! After hearing all the nasty stories of Sharia, state of Emergencies and Niger Delta Militants, you think we are to be trusted with commonwealth games in 2014? What a joke! Look, Festac "77 was a fluke--Will never happen in Nigeria again, the rate we are going. Why did Ophrah Winfrey not build her school for girls in Nigeria? I think una say you be "Giant of Africa"? Oh Please! A country that does not have its own bonafide international airlines? If those Sharia people riot on account of Muhammed, decide to display as usual, what is the evacuation plan in the absence PHCN in the neighbouring villages? Health care Nko? Free kidnapping agencies will spring up for maximum benefits! The athletes sef go begin miss in dozens for ransom! I beg make we go siddon jo! Those naked pot-bellied Bwari people go come out disgrace una well well. I can't wait to see that on "world link" T.V. Yup! |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by naijaking1: 11:52pm On Jun 10, 2007 |
@militia why am I beginning to like you? @seun do you doubt the authenticity of the article, I understand the need for accuracy, but the article is not a surprise at all. when you begin to fight for something like the olympics, C'wealth game, World cup, etc with other countries, that's when you go sabi say naija no get public relation muscle at all. The article achieved its objectives, which is to raise: 1. security concerns 2. human right concerns 3. copy right concerns 4. weather concerns Most of all, it was so well written that most people who don't know Abuja will puke after reading the article. Characteristically, naija people no go understand what hit them until they loose the opportunity to host the game. Instead of sending some good reporters to Glasgow to write a counter article, they will resort to name calling and finger pointing till thy kingdom come. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by MILITIA(f): 12:00am On Jun 11, 2007 |
@naijaking1 Smoochies to you! You know I am passionate about the truth. I do not believe in blind or baseless patriotism. You are talking about "writing a counter article"? Let us try making Abuja a model city that can at least rival Accra or Jo-Burg before we start bidding for the commonwealth games! Let us clean up the area good! See the article saying that you cannot even go one mile outside Abuja without seeing those Shanty "things". You know these oyinbo athletes sabi jog and explore with hidden cameras inside them underwear? One mile is not far oh! How will we hide all that jagbajantis? |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by naijaking1: 12:10am On Jun 11, 2007 |
@militia If I crack a rib laughing at your post, I'll send you the medical bill. You're right about getting to the root of the problem, and that's noble! My experience in ATL during the 1996 olympics formed the basis of my earlier post. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by MILITIA(f): 12:15am On Jun 11, 2007 |
@naijaking1 I was in ATL too then and I was glad the way the bombing thing was handled. Can you imagine what would have happened if that was in Nigeria. With the PHCN and Poor medical supplies matter? |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by naijaking1: 12:23am On Jun 11, 2007 |
That's my point. The Atl-Journal & Constn. ran a series of negative article about Rome, so much so that most people thought that the mafia would kidnap them on landing at the airport. Rome could and should have been given the privildge to host the 100th olympic, but Andy Young and Billy Payne do so many unspeakable things to thwart the Italian dream. Naija better be ready |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by JustGood(m): 12:00pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
There's no denying the fact that Nigeria has it's problems. Which nation doesn't? Anybody who reads well will realise that Scotland, especially Glasgow has multi-faceted problems. Almost every index in Europe shows Glasgow below the table. Glasgow is a drug-infested city whose population seems to be majority neds. For those who do not know what NED means, it's another term for CHAVS. I know Hampden Park, the National Stadium, very well and there are gangs of NEDS who gather around there almost every night. The noise and the nuisance they create is better imagined. Last night, I woke up and heard lots of noises in my neighbourhood and shouts by these people. You need to be somewhere to appreciate other things. My intention is not to run down Glasgow because I strongly support the games coming to Glasgow: it's my adopted home. But I do not want you guys to think that everywhere else is okay except Nigeria. Ask any foreigner in Glasgow and they'll tell you that Glasgow is not a good city to live. However, most people would say that about wherever does not suit them. even Glaswegians are always forward to tell you that their city is filled with too many undesirable characters. Education is not one of Glasgow's strong points. Majority of the people are half educated , cant speak or write proper English and more interested in getting drunk than any other thing. The proportion of Nigerians who love and cherish decent education is much higher than that of Scotland. In all, Scotland/Glasgow is good and so is Nigeria. Everywhere has it's plus and minuses |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by JustGood(m): 12:06pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
Azorju, you live in UK and I expect you to know better than to read the likes of The Mail Group, The sun and the other right wing racist newspapers whose main articles and news have to be anti-immigrant or outrightly racist in nature. My bro, dont bother with them |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by JustGood(m): 12:14pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6739007.stm Scotland is 'worst small country' Send us your views Scotland is the worst performing small country in Western Europe, according to a report by business leaders. The Federation of Small Businesses' annual Index of Wealth compared 10 countries on economic performance, employment rates, health and education. Scotland's life expectancy rate was a major factor in it coming bottom. FSB Scotland said the new SNP government had its work cut out to improve the nation, but ministers said Scotland "can and will do better". Scotland also fell by one place, to 17th, in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's table of the world's 24 most developed countries. We are already far down the table of comparator countries, and on every count we are travelling in the wrong direction Andy Willox FSB Scotland policy convener The FSB Scotland index examined countries with fewer than nine million people, including Norway, Iceland and the Republic of Ireland. The report was written by John McLaren, honorary research fellow at the University of Glasgow. He said Scotland had fallen one place from ninth after the previous bottom country, Austria, improved its employment rate. "The reason why Scotland is stuck at the bottom of the pile is largely due to our poor health and our low life expectancy," he said. Figures released last year by the Office for National Statistics said Scotland had the lowest life expectancy in the UK for both men and women. 'Fairly low' The figures were 74.2 for men and 79.3 for women, compared to the UK average of 76.6 and 81 years. Other statistics released by the Registrar General for Scotland last year showed that life expectancy was rising, but that the gap between rich and poor was widening. However, Mr McLaren added that even if health was taken out of the equation Scotland would still be "fairly low" on the table. FSB Scotland policy convener Andy Willox said: "The index clearly shows that, on these indicators, Scotland is the worst small country in western Europe, and requires urgent action to improve both our life chances and life expectancy. There are calls for health to be put at the heart of decision-making "Coming as it does so soon after the election of an SNP government, this year's index shows the new First Minister Alex Salmond will have his work cut out for him if he is to match reality with his aspiration of making Scotland healthier, wealthier and fairer." Despite being above average on three of the four indicators, life expectancy in Scotland remains well below the OECD average. "We are already far down the table of comparator countries, and on every count we are travelling in the wrong direction," Mr Willox added. "Health, education, the employment rate and economic performance are all interlinked. "Improvements in health or education should help businesses recruit and retain healthy and highly skilled staff, thus boosting productivity and ultimately economic growth." 'More dynamic' The index showed Glasgow City is the worst performing local authority area in Scotland, with the poorest record in three of the four indicators: mortality, education and employment Mr Willox added: "That Glasgow is the worst performing part of Scotland on all but one of the indicators is deeply troubling." Finance Secretary John Swinney said he was not surprised by the report's conclusions. "This reflects some of the arguments we have put forward for a very long time that Scotland is under-performing," he said. We have made it very clear that our purpose is to increase susrtainable economic growth in Scotland John Swinney Finance Secretary "This directly challenges some of the rhetoric from the previous government, everything in the garden is far from rosy in Scotland. "This report is an indication of the scale of the challenge that the government faces." He said that transforming economic growth would address a number of other problems highlighted in the report. "We have made it very clear that our purpose is to increase susrtainable economic growth in Scotland." The BMA wants the Scottish Executive to introduce health impact assessments for all government policies. Living in poverty Dr Peter Terry, chairman of the BMA in Scotland, said health needed to be put at the heart of decision-making. "Our public health is affected by a whole range of factors in society," he said. "It is widely known that people living in poverty or those from disadvantaged communities are more likely to experience poor health." "Health is improving, although the improvement is greater in more affluent areas." |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by JustGood(m): 12:31pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
I love nigeria but I am backing Glasgow Please support us: check this link http://www.glasgow2014.com/ |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by angel101(f): 12:50pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
much as i do not supprt Nigeria hosting the games as i dont think its priority for us, i take exception to the article. Everyone knows Nigeria has major issues but men that article was over exaggerated even by Nigerian standards! i beg these guys should give us a break. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by initiator(m): 1:16pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
Nigerians have a terrible self-esteem problem. We dont expect anything from ourselves. Those badmouthing nig. should know that games like these help boost the economy and improve infrastructure. Games are not hosted by perfect countries. S/A isn't even ready 4 the world cup but FIFA and the world's encouraging them. Here we cant even tell from a terribly warped article. Any fool can write rubbish about any country even US or UK. In naija its becoming fashionable to hate ur country in a very masochist way. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by denex: 2:31pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
Hmmm, individuals wielding machine guns for their own personal safety in Nigeria? In Abuja? Well, I really don't think Nigeria should host the commonwealth games. The basic reason is that we are surrounded by non-commonwealth countries. Therefore few people will come to watch the games from abroad so we will get minimal foreign exchange. We cannot afford to spend 250million in the near future, only to recoup 12million. I am not in support of that kind of colonial reasoning. People don't host games for glory sake. People host games to make money from foreign visitors. Germany made more than $12billion from hosting the world cup. Which commonwealth spectators are we expecting? Ghanaians? |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by denex: 3:07pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
I believe that Abuja is far ahead of Glasgow. However, I am against Abuja hosting this commonwealth games. I'm even against Nigeria being referred to as "COMMONWEALTH". More like colony. Abeg enough of this colonial mentality. Instead of them even begging us to host the games, were the ones fighting to host it. Abeg enough is enough. Let England host its own commonwealth. I reject it, and will thwart any effort to host any such games. God punish queen elizabeth and british imperialism. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by JustGood(m): 3:09pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
he he he. pls dont curse my Queen. I have an allegiance to the Queen. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by initiator(m): 3:19pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
@ denex what in the world d'u mean by only ghana wld come to the games? Common wealth game gets all english-speaking countries xcept the US mandatorily to one country. Canada hosted the games once and hey mexico was close by! Australia hosted and they're surrounded by non-english nations. Naija has qualms and yes shanties but if u wait for the removal of shanties b4 u host an event, una go chop una bia bia. Games like these can challenge a country's internal policies. Like china, countries r threatening 2 boycot her 2008 olympics if she does'nt change her policy in sudan. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by denex: 3:34pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
@initiator athletes from british colonies can be compelled to the commonwealth games, but they cannot compel fans to travel all the way from Australia, England, jamaica and India. The only non-athlete visitors that will have a convenient trip to nigeria are Ghanaians because of the proximity and option of road transport. Ah. No country should make the mistake of boycotting the Olympic games O! It will just put China's name in the history books as the only country to win all the olympic gold medals at one competition. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by superman(m): 4:16pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
na waaaa! and in spite of the fact most of the emm infrastructure of the recent olympics in Athen wasnt completed prior to the game, plus the onces that were bulit wasnt completed in time, ICC or whatever they called themselve still let them have it. in the case of south africa those racist wankers across the planet are now talkin about standby host for the world cup here comes nigeria , some pppl cnt picture any good from it oh well we get there anyhow |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by Mariory(m): 4:36pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
denex: With what? Pixels on the internet? |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by denex: 5:06pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
Well, the effort to thwart the commonwealth games is not something that'll be too arduous. Most foreigners don't even know that expatriates are being kidnapped in the NigerDelta and not the whole of Nigeria. By the time I kidnap one whitey from Abuja and send the picture to CNN I-Report and those scottish reporters, government eye go neat. Hosting international games is a business venture. Nigeria is the only country that makes 10% of what it invests in hosting sporting events. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by denex: 5:49pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
Well, the effort to thwart the commonwealth games is not something that'll be too arduous. Most foreigners don't even know that expatriates are being kidnapped in the NigerDelta and not the whole of Nigeria. By the time I kidnap one whitey from Abuja and send the picture to CNN I-Report and those scottish reporters, government eye go neat. Hosting international games is a business venture. Nigeria is the only country that makes 10% of what it invests in hosting sporting events. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by azorjiu(m): 8:22pm On Jun 11, 2007 |
Take a look at http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/Glasgow-Lose-Games-Bid-t8209.html By the way, I don't see the reason why Abuja should not host the game. We mustn't wait until per capita income gets to $40,000 to host the game. Abuja is modern, Glasgow is rusty. Hosting the game will not only improve on the infrastructure we have at the moment, but also contribute positively to the economy of the country. These guys are coming to spend dollars, pounds, naira, etc. can't you see. On a sad note, corruption is a major factors as the benefits of the game may end up in the pockets of the privileged few. But come to think of it, do we earnestly believe we can't win the war on corruption before 2014?- I don't mean zero corruption, but corruption at an acceptable level (Like the type you witness in UK, USA and other developed countries) |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by JustGood(m): 9:50am On Jun 12, 2007 |
I'm a regular reader of Glasgow Guide. There are very many of them there who have seriously racist views and if you read through the politics section, you'll understand what I mean; it's a typical, average Glasgow mentality to be narrow minded and racist. The claim that Nigeria is too hot can be countered by the claim that Glasgow is too cold. Even Glaswegians hate their own cold and wet weather. They tend to love concentrating on anything negative about African and non-whites. However, I want Glasgow to host the games for my own selfish reasons; so that I can see many of my Nigerian brothers and sisters in Glasgow and I will hopefully invite some of them to my home |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by stanech: 6:34pm On Jun 12, 2007 |
azorjiu: I do not blive this If u have some pictures of the modern Abuja let me see And as for those saying that they do not want abuja to host please make una no spoil business for us oh. Because as a member of MEND I will like to kidnapp like 3 Oyibo during the games. |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by azorjiu(m): 11:20pm On Jun 12, 2007 |
Ok, but abuja deserves to host the game. We've got the facilities for the event ready.
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Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by MILITIA(f): 11:25pm On Jun 12, 2007 |
@Stanech! I dey laff! You are something else! @Azorjiu They are asking you for pictures of "Abuja" you are showing us Scottish pride? Please my naija brodas and sistas make una show us picture of "Abuja" Metropolis oh! Do not forget to include those "Bwari" kwashiorkor pot bellied people oh! LOL |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by JustGood(m): 9:03am On Jun 13, 2007 |
Militia, you are a pathetic being. Have you ever heard of the drug-infested state of most Glaswegians as well? Have you ever heard that many children are born with drug addiction in Glasgow? Have you ever heard about the poverty of Easterhouse? Have you ever heard about so many of the ills pervading Glasgow? They dont go around parading their ills for the world to see. They'd rather concentrate on the ills of others. But my own people are so pathetic that the only ills they see are their own. I am not against identifying our weaknesses and lapses but to do this to our own detriment is the main reason that many are the way they are. That is why many are now refugees in foreign lands: not because there are no resources but because there is no will or desire on the part of the people to make anything work. When people like militia can point to anything they have ever contributed in their lives to make Nigeria better, they can come back to talk about it's ills |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by DisGuy: 10:52am On Jun 13, 2007 |
this is a competition to get the games mud slinging is allowed why arent there any nigeria newspaper publishing scotland as the worst small countryand whatnots abeg, these people know how to use the media, their journalist wants the games our journalists are busy following Tinubu and co to naming ceremonies/weddings and giving obanikoro the award for politician of the year |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by stanech: 6:15pm On Jun 13, 2007 |
Dis Guy: LOL My brother wetin our political journalists know? If you give them a visa to Scotland, many of them will abandon their job to go there, afterall ow much are they payed? Let us be realistic We are not capable of hosting any of such competition because PHCN, |
Re: Abuja: The Scottish View. by deor03(m): 7:46pm On Jun 13, 2007 |
this is just the power of the media at play. The westerners will make you feel useless if you take their views. ABUJA by any standard is an above average city, clean etc. These guys just want us and we should just shred editorials like that. Read them and laugh over it. nothing more. |
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