Maximus69:

God doesn't reveal himself to people just like that otherwise it will be a partiality!
According to the Bible, He (God) only reveal himself to people whose heart are pure and willing to do what God wants but are going towards the wrong direction.
But once a person's heart has completely discarded all thoughts about a Supreme Being, the next thing you'll see such persons doing is making efforts to become your God.
So in a bid to set standards that he himself will not uphold, an atheist will be negating the idea of someone else that's Supreme above all!

Maximus69:

That's human thinking not that of the immortals!

To spirits (who don't grow old or die) time means nothing, that's why God allows the descendants of Adam to see the consequences of rebellion.
When all these is over, we will never forget what we experienced under the rulership of rebellious man! Ecclesiastes 4:1, 8:9

The memories of wicked acts and evildoers will continue to linger in our hearts for ever, that's what God meant by people tormented forever and ever! Revelations 14:11

GRIMMJOE:
When I ask you to talk you won't, but when some does talk you rush on to come and support them, don't you have a voice of your own, are you the type that hide behind a group during a presentation.

Rozz:
no need to comment on something I already did a topic on. On the contrary I lead my group most times on presentations, una sabi brag here and its not my thing. We all have our areas of interest and I will beat you hands down if you dare me in my own field

GRIMMJOE:
Like I've said, if anyone can see the future they I'll spend the rest of their life sleeping.

I agree with you God may exist, but it can't be the one that failed to establish the world he wanted.

Maximus69:

God doesn't reveal himself to people just like that otherwise it will be a partiality!
According to the Bible, He (God) only reveal himself to people whose heart are pure and willing to do what God wants but are going towards the wrong direction.
But once a person's heart has completely discarded all thoughts about a Supreme Being, the next thing you'll see such persons doing is making efforts to become your God.
So in a bid to set standards that he himself will not uphold, an atheist will be negating the idea of someone else that's Supreme above all!

fairheart:
You are creating confusion with your approach to this.
It is the pattern of teachings of people like you that has scattered Christianity today. You think there's only one way to having God reveals Himself to people? Now I understand why this thread has reached over 100 pages. Please do better!
You really need to go back to my old comments to you.

GRIMMJOE:
In other words your God failure is intentional.

fairheart:
You are creating confusion with your approach to this.
It is the pattern of teachings of people like you that has scattered Christianity today. You think there's only one way to having God reveals Himself to people? Now I understand why this thread has reached over 100 pages. Please do better!
You really need to go back to my old comments to you.

fairheart:

Your words made me change my mind, so let me add to what have been said!
You do not need to see the future, so such sleep is not necessary. Like I said, it is a gift for purposes best known to the One who honoured my life with it.

For the second sentence: my brother, I can feel you and why you have doubts.
And your doubts are genuine, because I am not going to be religious and start saying things that are not true or in agreement with realities in our world today. All the good people who cares about the suffering of humanity and the chaos in this world have asked the same question: Why do this God distance Himself and allow His own creations to suffer. Does He cares? He is concerned at all? So many questions!

Here, the Bible provide some answers, but these are not answers that can be accepted except one is ready to "HOPE" in and "BELIEVE" in things you cannot see at this moment.
The book of Isaiah 65: 17, “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.

There is no hidden interpretation to that Bible reference. Take it literal. He is creating a new world, new system, new plan. It is like a US government saying they are designing a program that will fix American financial challenges. Or like you saying, "I will build my house before I am 50 years." It is a plan in motion; we cannot see it, but "HOPE" asked us to "BELIEVE" such plan is out there.
I strongly believe the Creator feels our agony and pain. I think He has a plan (Note that I am talking from a mind that has been permeated by belief and hope).

What is He trying to do? Honestly, there is so much misconception and contradictions on this. I advise you not to engage hardcore Christians on this issue, they will confuse you more. Don't engage any denominational Christian; they are divided against themselves. The new heaven is in Heaven, it is a physical world, that and this. These are confused, and will also cause you more confusion.

What you need to do is open yourself, open your mind, be ready to take in new information. Your Creator feels your pain; he knows you are deeply concern that this world is broken and not working. But please, open yourself to Him, not to anybody else. Do independent Bible study if you will and open your heart to occurrences around you, as you go on living your life defending truth about this Creator, supporting humanity in your capacity. In your study, you will find contradictions, words of some Bible writers that conflicts others, but I trust that the Spirit of knowledge will guide you. Amen

HOPE that He is truly creating a new system while you do your best for human race.
HOPE!

Maximus69:

He never failed, what you mortals term as failure is God's respect for your freewill. He wants you to see that if not guided your freewill may land you in big trouble that can cost your very existence! Genesis 2:17

Adam and Eve chose absolutely freedom not the related freedom God offered them, they die in the process and the consequences of their rebelliousness is what we're all experiencing today.

God have the power to resurrect each and every one of those that are in his memory but evildoers will not be remembered! John 5:28-29

So what mortals thought as weakness is actually divine wisdom and power to the immortals!

GRIMMJOE:
If a God wants to do something, it's already done.

The summary of your write up is " have faith" faith is very important in religion, without faith religion won't work.

GRIMMJOE:
You seem to be going off point, so let me ask you, what is the intention of religion/ Christianity/ Islam/Jehovah's witness, you can pick any one.

fairheart:

Yes, faith, driven by truth! That sums it up. But you don't necessarily have to be at this station for now. As you open yourself, and with occurrences ahead for you, I'm sure you will reach this state and hold unto whatever conclusion you get from your experience.
God has His own time, and His own reasons for His new world. I don't want to blame Him for not haven't done it immediately.
All the best bro!

Maximus69:


God arranged for a global reorientation for humanity, we must learn how to live and let live, Satan created so many other groups claiming worshipers of the same God.
So while true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) are busy preaching and teaching people how to become peace lovers, Satan's agents are making them feel humans can solve their own problems, that's why it's difficult for them to make peace reign!
God's people (Jehovah's Witnesses) are connecting peace lovers globally and making them subjects for Jesus {2Corinthians 10:5} with a view of living forever as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! John 17:21-23

GRIMMJOE:
Good for you.

Maximus69:

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Excellent!

GRIMMJOE:

You will get there, or maybe not, some people never wakes up, some do.

Maximus69:


Sooner or later, meanwhile both you and i are enjoying together now, the only difference is i'm preaching and teaching people how to love and care for their neighbours as well as hoping for the day when all evil will be things of that past, i can't just see you in the picture because you have no purpose nor plans about how this world will ever become a better place!

GRIMMJOE:
But your God wants people to suffer because of there rebellion, if anything your hindering his plan.

MuttleyLaff:
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Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size
Them two haven't a Scooby Doo

MuttleyLaff:
You cracked me up yesterday, leaving me bursting out in laughter on the public walkway reading this comment and especially the last sentence above.

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Those arent brothers in the above video, that's one person, and it is Agent Smith, from the film Matrix
Just look at that kkins\25! Beautiful isnt it?
That's child play for God to do, meaning easy for God to do more than one place at the same time within the same dimension or multi dimension

kkins\25, did you see how Agent Smith was multiplying himself, by saying more, huh?
Did you watch him being in more than one place at the same time within the same dimension, hmm?
Is it far fetch or difficult to believe, that God can do more and better than multiplying Himself like done by Agent Smith, in that sci-fi film, erhn?
Is it something hard for God to, as well do, huh?

DappaD:
I didn't want to revisit this
But nobody is putting limit on God oga

DappaD:
Jehovah God is ONE Spirit Being and not a multidimensional entity. (Deuteronomy 6:4)

DappaD:
Imagine you were even comparing God to a guy in an action movie, the Matrix. The height of disrespect

Maximus69:

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
He has a plan to right the wrong, he is a spirit and spirits don't think the way humans do.
To him humans are learning, remember his book said he created us from the dust, so it cost him nothing the way or manner that dust will return to dust.
Meanwhile he's taking account of those who are willing to be obedient and not rebellious, when all these is over he will reward them with the real life the everlasting life.
So see yourself as one person having the chance to live and accomplish whatever you dream of, the suffering of humans like yourself will continue to be there until his kingdom come!

johnw47:
as long colorful fingernails are idols to mad max and hairless crutch trivina, colorful clothing are also idols to false jw's:

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you false jw's are very much of the world:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

GRIMMJOE:
I'm guessing this is the reason muttleylaff was saying a God doesn't have limit, because you just gave him one.
He has a plan to right the wrong, a God that wants to right the wrong can simply do this by blinking.

Maximus69:


Sooner or later, meanwhile both you and i are enjoying together now, the only difference is i'm preaching and teaching people how to love and care for their neighbours as well as hoping for the day when all evil will be things of that past, i can't just see you in the picture because you have no purpose nor plans about how this world will ever become a better place!

brocab:
While in the mean time-your love for us as neighbours doesn't come close to the love you claim to have for others, you may think they are listening to you....

brocab:
Since there had been so many child molesting reports against the Watchtower-these three young Girl's are just dressing up for the picking..

Maximus69:
He surely has limits!
Only bullies don't have limits, once they feel like this is how things should be they take charge.

You can see that when you drive against the one way, if soldiers catch you, they'll deal ruthlessly with you for breaking the traffic rules but when something urgent comes up, they themselves will do exactly the same thing.
God has all the power to right the wrong at a go but he respects our freewill and want us to learn from the consequences of demanding for absolute freedom, something different from the relative freedom that we truly deserve!

Janosky:

"... Out of the abundance of your PERVERTED heart... even though you see well-groomed ladies in that photo...." Kai !!!!!!
Bros, you just confirmed your status.
You are a confirmed "spirit filled" PERVERT.
TUEH !!!!

MuttleyLaff:
Maximus69, Please give one instance of God, ever, breaking any explicit stated rule

GRIMM\JOE:
I'm guessing this is the reason MuttleyLaff was saying a God doesn't have limit, because you just gave him one.
He has a plan to right the wrong, a God that wants to right the wrong can simply do this by blinking.

Maximus69:
He surely has limits!
Only bullies don't have limits, once they feel like this is how things should be they take charge.

You can see that when you drive against the one way, if soldiers catch you, they'll deal ruthlessly with you for breaking the traffic rules but when something urgent comes up, they themselves will do exactly the same thing.
God has all the power to right the wrong at a go but he respects our freewill and want us to learn from the consequences of demanding for absolute freedom, something different from the relative freedom that we truly deserve!

MuttleyLaff:
Maximus69, please give one instance of God, ever, breaking any explicit stated rule

Maximus69:
I don't understand your question!