bigfrancis21:


It is not confirmed. His father was given the name, Oludara, by a Yoruba priest. Some African Americans adopt African names for that ancestral connection but his Yoruba ancestry, if any, isn’t confirmed. I’ve met a few African Americans with Igbo names like Chinua, Nnamdi etc but these names were given to them by their parents, but no Igbo ancestry was medically confirmed.

The musician, Ne-Yo, has an Igbo middle name, Chimere, given to him by his parents. However it is not confirmed if he has Igbo ancestry or not.
https://books.google.com/books?id=qN6fAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA593&lpg=PA593&dq=neyo+chimere+igbo&source=bl&ots=hkenjc8sQj&sig=ACfU3U0a9FH6jC-2paSNbv1nprZb6cFj9w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXwKPQ39npAhUrlHIEHcqoCcsQ6AEwDnoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=neyo%20chimere%20igbo&f=false

pazienza:


This one is already high on Ewedu and gbegiri. No need replying him.

Your brothers are crying that Igbo culture is swallowing up the Olukumi in Odiani, but you are here saying Igbo has no organic culture.

Iamgrey5:
You are actually a phony guy

On one list the total number of slaves exported from bight of Biafra was 1.7 m

Yet on another list the total number exported was 1.4 million

It looks to me that you doctored some list.

forgiveness:


How did you arrive at 1.6m people for Aja people out of the 2.1m people? I will like to know where you got that figure from?

I know you have been lying but today, I don catch you.

MetaPhysical:


Olukumi has been there over 100yrs. Yoruba footprint is never erasable.

We are not like Ibos. Wherever we plant foot, our cultural legacy is left there permanently and forever.

bigfrancis21:

Angola and Congo = West Central = almost 4m exports combined.

Bight of Benin = 2.1m exports, Aja people (majority) 1.6m, Yoruba 0.45m.

Bight of Biafra = 1.46m exports, Igbo 1.2m, Ibibio/Efik/Ijaw = 0.25m.

Once again I furnish extra data for you if you are unable to source them by yourself.

bigfrancis21:

Unarguably, no facts exist to prove this.

1.2m vs 0.437m, at least 2.5 as much.

bigfrancis21:

forgiveness:


How did you arrive at 1.6m people for Aja people out of the 2.1m people? I will like to know where you got that figure from?

I know you have been lying but today, I don catch you.

sesan85:
I've dismissed you already, IPOB propagandist. Mr "50% -70%/80% of Yoruba people have Igbo blood." You're drunk, go to bed.

bigfrancis21:

.....
In SW Nigeria today, due to the high rate of inter-tribal marriages, a substantial number of Yorubas have 50% Igbo blood to as high as 75% or 80% Igbo blood (those with Igbo mothers and Igbo paternal grandparents), despite being 'Yoruba by name'. Yoruba by name, Igbo by DNA.

sesan85:
I've dismissed you already, IPOB propagandist. Mr "50% -70%/80% of Yoruba people have Igbo blood." You're drunk, go to bed.

sesan85:
Please don't bother yourself too much about him. He's clearly mentally unstable. The paranoid idiot also claimed that about 50%-70%/80% of Yoruba people have Igbo blood because of intermarriage. Does that look like someone that is alright in the head to you?

sesan85:
This paranoid, fraudulent IPOB liar has started again. That was you claimed the name "Ebo" of an African American woman was a corruption of Igbo, even though the name means something in another African language. Nnamdi ko, Kanu ni.

9jakool:


Check out my previous post. I've already debunked his post. It doesn't make sense since Aja people today are about 500,000 which doesn't support the idea of 1.6 million of them being enslaved between 1600s-1800s. The source he quoted was referring to Aja PEOPLES comprising of 30+ ethnic groups including Fon and Ewe located West of the Yorubaland. So it's 30+ ethnic groups vs. the entire Yoruba population.

forgiveness:


How did you arrive at 1.6m people for Aja people out of the 2.1m people? I will like to know where you got that figure from?

I know you have been lying but today, I don catch you.

How to Subtract Numbers for Dummies
Subtraction is usually the second operation you discover, and it’s not much harder than addition. In fact, you can subtract larger numbers by stacking them in columns, similar to how you add large numbers.

Still, there’s something negative about subtraction — it’s all about who has more and who has less. Suppose you and your friend have been running on treadmills at the gym. You’re happy because you ran 3 miles, but then she starts bragging that she ran 10 miles. She subtracts and tells you that you should be very impressed that she ran 7 miles farther than you did. (But with an attitude like that, she shouldn’t be surprised if she comes back from the showers to find her running shoes filled with liquid soap!)

As with addition, subtraction has only one sign: the minus sign (–). You end up with equations such as 4 – 1 = 3 and 14 – 13 = 1 and 93 – 74 = 19.

pazienza:


There is no Olukumi. What we now have is Odiani.

forgiveness:


I have seen it and it has further exposed that guy as fraud.

I never took him seriously initially because I knew he was being clever by half by presenting data selectively to suit and back up his false claims. What a fraud.

9jakool:



1. I argued that Yoruba were the most influential African ethnicity in Brazil and my stance has not changed. I never mentioned the entire Americas, don't misrepresent my argument.

2. I retraced your source and I realized your statistics are misleading. The bight of Benin stretches all the way from the Volta river in Ghana and ends at the Niger delta encompassing Yoruba, Fon, Gun, Ewe, Gen, Aja, Mina and dozens more. There are obviously more groups that were enslaved and not mentioned apart from Aja, Nupe, Voltaic, Yoruba and Bariba. Even stranger, the table does not include the Fon, one of the most enslaved group in the Bight of Benin. So I began to doubt your source until I stumbled upon the first map and these statements from the book which shows the "Aja peoples" in plural as just a catchall for all ethnic groups in the bight west of Yorubas. It includes Aja as well as many related ethnic groups like Fon, Ewe and other coastal ethnic groups in Benin and Togo. You can clearly even see Dahomey which was Fon listed under the Aja umbrella.

3. Therefore the correct assessment from your source is: Aja + Ewe + Fon + Mina + Gen + Xwla + dozens more ethnic groups = 2.1 million; Yoruba as standalone = 0.45 million.

9jakool:


Check out my previous post. I've already debunked his post. It doesn't make sense since Aja people today are about 500,000 which doesn't support the idea of 1.6 million of them being enslaved between 1600s-1800s. The source he quoted was referring to Aja PEOPLES comprising of 30+ ethnic groups including Fon and Ewe located West of the Yorubaland. So it's 30+ ethnic groups vs. the entire Yoruba population.

bigfrancis21:



https://www.dummies.com/education/math/basic-math/how-to-subtract-numbers/


To perform subtraction, first add up the Yoruba numbers one by one from the data below:

1)1200+900+1700+3200+1700+3100+3100+4800+7100+7000+11300+22600+20000+36700+14800+15500+30200+41100+89800+64000+38100+19000 = 436,900.

2)Estimated exports from Bight of Benin = 2,016,200

3) Estimated Aja exports = 2,016,200 - 436,900 = 1,579,300 (approx 1.6m). Nupe and Hausa figures are somewhat insignificant.

That's how you do basic subtraction.

bigfrancis21:


Aja peoples = Fon, Ewe, Ga-Adangbe etc.

Fon population = 4-5m
Ewe population = 6.7m
Ga population = 2m

Total of these 3 groups alone = 12.7m to 13.7m.

Where did you pull 0.5m from??

MetaPhysical:


Anything he presents, however authentic it first appear on surface....dig to its root. Even if he supplies tables with datasheet back to 100 bc, wake Socrates up to fact check for you and validate the authenticity.

Here is good reason Biafrans rely on bigfrancis to help them with data sets.

He is a master fabricator.

bigfrancis21:


This is why Nigerians fail SAT and GRE because they lack basic comprehension/reading skills.



Let me reiterate:
...a substantial number of Yorubas [say 10% of all Yorubas for example] have 50% Igbo blood to as high as 75% or 80% Igbo blood


...carries a different meaning from:

= Sesan85's interpretation of a basic comprehension passage.

MetaPhysical:


If you like call them Aroani, na your headache. You can never erase the Yoruba footprint.

unbitchable:

STFU!
I called you out first, so, i expect that you charge at me with your lying teeth. The reverse is the case for you spouting ignorantly and quite pathetically, thus, you do not only lack basic compression skills but basic reasoning abilities.
If you're too lazy to look it up in a dictionary, at least, you have a phone, use Google, damn it!

" Substantial" -- Large, Significant, Sizeable, Ample, Considerable.

Your initial post was well attacked because it was fradulently intended.
You might think this forum comprises as much dumb people as your radio biafra. You're nothing but a low level compulsive liar.

forgiveness:


How did you get 1.6m for Aja slave export?

This your mathematics is only for a dummy not me.

What is the total export of slaves in this data below? 1,846,200 million.

How come it's different from the total export of slaves from the bight of Benin at 2,016,200?

Answer.

bigfrancis21:


Oh well, another rant about 1.6m. At this point you're making no meaningful contribution to this thread.

Enjoy more substantial data below:

https://books.google.com/books?id=k0gVVh9jwF4C&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=aja+peoples+slavery&source=bl&ots=abthUSOjU_&sig=ACfU3U3GlyoS6OIRER3OcUEOn3yCcmV1EQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA4bvbvdzpAhXhQ98KHXCuCZMQ6AEwA3oECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=aja%20peoples%20slavery&f=false

bigfrancis21:


All this rant is over just one word, substantial? Well, below is the meaning and that is what I had in mind when I used the word. If you or sesan interpreted it to mean 75% to 80%, well that's not my problem.

You cannot deny the fact that a good number of Yoruba men are married to Igbo women or have Igbo grandmothers. Oh well, I expect another emotional outbursts about 'good number'.

Top 5 reasons why Yoruba men marry Igbo ladies 3 years ago 157854 views by Temitope Popoola

Inter-tribal marriage in Nigeria is inevitable; it is near impossible for the people of a particular tribe in Nigeria not to marry outside that tribe. Read more: https://www.legit.ng/892109-5-reasons-yoruba-men-love-marry-igbo-ladies.html

bigfrancis21:


Aja peoples = Fon, Ewe, Ga-Adangbe etc.

Fon population = 4-5m
Ewe population = 6.7m
Ga population = 2m

Total of these 3 groups alone = 12.7m to 13.7m.

Where did you pull 0.5m from??

9jakool:


I know the ethnic make-up of Nigeria, Benin, and Togo like the back of my mind and I know where Yorubaland begins and end.

Aja people (in singular) is a standalone ethnic group in Southwestern Benin (Kouffo department) and some communities across the border in Togo. If you go back and reread my post and look at the map I provided, then you would realize that the author specifically used Aja peoples (in plural) to refer to the numerous groups of people after one of the prominent member tribe, the Aja.

It's like if I wrote "Yoruba peoples" to lump Ebira, Igala, Yoruba, Edo and Bariba people together or using "Igbo peoples" to lump Cross-river, Igbo. Ijaw and other ethnic groups together. It shouldn't be hard for you to understand. But I see you have conceded with the post that your source is grouping numerous groups together for the inflated figure you gave earlier. That's all I wanted.

9jakool:


2. I retraced your source and I realized your statistics are misleading. The bight of Benin stretches all the way from the Volta river in Ghana and ends at the Niger delta encompassing Yoruba, Fon, Gun, Ewe, Gen, Aja, Mina and dozens more. There are obviously more groups that were enslaved and not mentioned apart from Aja, Nupe, Voltaic, Yoruba and Bariba. Even stranger, the table does not include the Fon, one of the most enslaved group in the Bight of Benin. So I began to doubt your source until I stumbled upon the first map and these statements from the book which shows the "Aja peoples" in plural as just a catchall for all ethnic groups in the bight west of Yorubas. It includes Aja as well as many related ethnic groups like Fon, Ewe and other coastal ethnic groups in Benin and Togo. You can clearly even see Dahomey which was Fon listed under the Aja umbrella.

unbitchable:

Assimilation is not unnatural as their ancestry is never in doubt. Regardless of the environmental or cultural assimilation, they are bold enough to recognize and declare their Yoruba ancestry.

pazienza:


Whatever.
Still :https://www.nairaland.com/5875972/1952-nigeria-ethnicity-census-result

Choke on the above

Apawicked:
the most populous in your ewedu statistics. Why were you not the most populous when this one was counted