senatordave1:
A lot of indications point to tinubu contesting in2 2023 but I still believe somehow that he will at the last minute pull a shocker and support one of osibanjo,aregbesola,oshiomhole to contest to be deputized by either wamakko,shettima or zulum.but if he contests,I don't see him losing the apc primaries.nobody can stop him from winning the primaries except buhari.nobody in pdp can defeat him in any election.

The warped thinking that because the north voted massively against gej in 2015 they will also vote against any southerner no matter the party is a big lie.it is a one off and will not happen for many years.the massive votes buhari gets from the north is not automatic,it took him years to build that followership.the only other northerners that ever had such following were ahmadu blo,aminu kano and shehu yaradua.it took years.no other northerner apart from buhari can command such following.kwankwaso to an extend is getting there but not yet to buhari's level.

In 2023,pdp will likely zone their ticket to the south but in case it is zoned to the north,it will be north west or north east.if it is zoned to the north east,atiku will easily pick the ticket or dankwambo or lamido.if it is zoned to the north west,tambuwal will get the ticket and if zoned to the north central saraki will take it.these three remains the front runners and none can defeat tinubu.

If it is zoned to atiku,tinubu will defeat him in the entire north starting from the north east.tinubu will narrowly lose in the south and lose massively in the east.
If it is clinched by tambuwal,tinubu will still win the north west albeit narrowly.if it is saraki,it is even easier.

In summary,tinubu can become president in2023


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Actually if you have studied how Northerners play politics you won't have imagine Tinubu beating Atiku in the North East 。Tinubu can easily beat Saraki,Dankwanbo or Lamido but not Sen。Rabiu Kwankaso 。 Aminu Tambuwal and Atiku can also give Tinubu a good run for his money。 After Buhari another popular politician is Kwankaso,Tambuwal ,Atiku in that order。 It is better ABAT remain relevant as kingmaker in Lagos and SW region

WeneDiali:


You call most your fellow zombies to come and masturbate...

tinubu your paymaster cannot win APC primaries. He is just like awolowo who cannot win national elections.

Even if he by hook or by crook steals the APC ticket, the northern elements of the APC will cross carpet and join PDP where the North+SE+SS will give him a throrough thumping at the polls. He even lost by proxy at osinbajo's polling unit at the last election in 2019.

He cannot beat Atiku/Obi or Tambuwal/Wike at the poll. Stop deceiving yourself abobbi.

Are you aware nPDP was handiwork of Tinubu?

Do not underestimate BAT, listen to Senatordave's homerun analysis, it is spot on!

mrvitalis:

North east have always been loyal to PDP ...but buhari was very popular

It's madness to expect tinubu to get the same number of votes buhari got in the north ...if he gets half he would be considered a legend

There are two regional block already against yorubas ....south south and south east .....and tinubu can't win more than 65% of South West and u know that

The numbers don't add up

You already said tinubu can't get more than 70% of south west,now you are reducing it to 65%. North east have never been loyal to pdp sir.it has always been anpp or CPC or apc except for Adamawa and taraba which pdp always wins narrowly.
The major votes are in yobe,borno,bauchi and gombe and it is always against pdp.so tinubu will win here even if it is narrowly.
The only place in northwest that will give tinubu problem is sokoto and kaduna.
North central will always be 50 50 but if pdp fields a northerner,they will tilt slightly towards tinubu.

You already said tinubu can get 35% in the ss.the east won't pose a problem because turnout will be low, less than 2 million but tinubu will get more votes here than buhari

Jakemedg:
Actually if you have studied how Northerners play politics you won't have imagine Tinubu beating Atiku in the North East 。Tinubu can easily beat Saraki,Dankwanbo or Lamido but not Sen。Rabiu Kwankaso 。 Aminu Tambuwal and Atiku can also give Tinubu a good run for his money。

Yes,they will give him problems but still lose.atiku is weak outside Adamawa and taraba

senatordave1:


You already said tinubu can't get more than 70% of south west,now you are reducing it to 65%. North east have never been loyal to pdp sir.it has always been anpp or CPC or apc except for Adamawa and taraba which pdp always wins narrowly.
The major votes are in yobe,borno,bauchi and gombe and it is always against pdp.so tinubu will win here even if it is narrowly.
The only place in northwest that will give tinubu problem is sokoto and kaduna.
North central will always be 50 50 but if pdp fields a northerner,they will tilt slightly towards tinubu.

You already said tinubu can get 35% in the ss.the east won't pose a problem because turnout will be low, less than 2 million but tinubu will get more votes here than buhari

Lol gombe that has minorities everywhere ?

Most of u over estimate tinubu power when it comes to delivery of votes ......lol I just dey laugh Sha ...by 2022 it's would have been very obvious

senatordave1:


Yes,they will give him problems but still lose.atiku is weak outside Adamawa and taraba

Just like Tinubu is weak outside Lagos and Osun 。Bro do not underestimate the power of northerners because they know how to unite to protect their interests unlike like Southerners who are divided

mrvitalis:

Lol gombe that has minorities everywhere ?

Most of u over estimate tinubu power when it comes to delivery of votes ......lol I just dey laugh Sha ...by 2022 it's would have been very obvious

The minorities vote buhari.why won't they vote more for a southerner? The major factor is not the vote but the apc machinery on ground compared to that of pdp...

Jakemedg:
Just like Tinubu is weak outside Lagos and Osun 。Bro do not underestimate the power of northerners because they know how to unite to protect their interests unlike like Southerners who are divided

What is the indication that tinubu is weak outside lagos and osun? Apc controls almost all south west except oyo.if buhari can win south west,tinubu will even win more

senatordave1:


The minorities vote buhari.why won't they vote more for a southerner? The major factor is not the vote but the apc machinery on ground compared to that of pdp...

Lol no worry ... APC won because of one thing and one thing alone buhari factor ... with or without APC he had his 12 million votes sure ... APC just added 3 million votes ...tinubu can't get that's vote

senatordave1:


You already said tinubu can't get more than 70% of south west,now you are reducing it to 65%. North east have never been loyal to pdp sir.it has always been anpp or CPC or apc except for Adamawa and taraba which pdp always wins narrowly.
The major votes are in yobe,borno,bauchi and gombe and it is always against pdp.so tinubu will win here even if it is narrowly.
The only place in northwest that will give tinubu problem is sokoto and kaduna.
North central will always be 50 50 but if pdp fields a northerner,they will tilt slightly towards tinubu.

You already said tinubu can get 35% in the ss.the east won't pose a problem because turnout will be low, less than 2 million but tinubu will get more votes here than buhari

I don't see Tinubu securing 90％ of SW let alone getting significant votes in the SS ( one reason is that he is percieved as one of those influential persons who kicked out their son Jonathan ) and another reason is that the SS is a major PDP's stronghold

senatordave1:


What is the indication that tinubu is weak outside lagos and osun? Apc controls almost all south west except oyo.if buhari can win south west,tinubu will even win more

Yes Tinubu may win south west but remember apart from Lagos the opposition PDP has strongholds and once a state government dissappoints its people ,the people votes for the opposition party。History has shown that

mrvitalis:

Lol no worry ... APC won because of one thing and one thing alone buhari factor ... with or without APC he had his 12 million votes sure ... APC just added 3 million votes ...tinubu can't get that's vote

Pdp won't get more either.Nigerians will prefer tinubu to any other person plus apc is still stronger than pdp

Jakemedg:
I don't see Tinubu securing 90％ of SW let alone getting significant votes in the SS ( one reason is that he is percieved as one of those influential persons who kicked out their son Jonathan ) and another reason is that the SS is a major PDP's stronghold

Am from the ss,we have no problem with tinuby.if we gave buhari one million votes,we will give tinubu more

senatordave1:


Am from the ss,we have no problem with tinuby.if we gave buhari one million votes,we will give tinubu more

How will i no you are from south south？ Which state in the south south is 55％ APC

senatordave1:


Pdp won't get more either.Nigerians will prefer tinubu to any other person plus apc is still stronger than pdp

Apc is stronger than PDP ? Lamo
Take out buhari all u have is paper weight politicians who combined can't deliver 5 million votes

Jakemedg:
How will i no you are from south south？ Which state in the south south is 55％ APC

Edo,bayelsa.he does not need to win any state,just getting 25%.

senatordave1:


Am from the ss,we have no problem with tinuby.if we gave buhari one million votes,we will give tinubu more

LOL which part of south south doesn't have problem with buhari？

mrvitalis:

Apc is stronger than PDP ? Lamo
Take out buhari all u have is paper weight politicians who combined can't deliver 5 million votes

Does PDP have anybody like tinubu

Jakemedg:
LOL which part of south south doesn't have problem with buhari？

How did buhari get 1 million votes?

senatordave1:


Does PDP have anybody like tinubu

Who is tinubu please ...same politician that failed in acn for years ...if not for fashola over hyped pefromaced there was no way apc would have taken most Western States ...relax Oga tinubu can't deliver Lagos even u are talking

Does it mean that this country has no future?

senatordave1:


Edo,bayelsa.he does not need to win any state,just getting 25%.

Good you didn't mention just Edo,,Bayelsa but bro you and i know bayelsa isn't giving any 25％ maybe Edo because of Oshobaba

senatordave1:


How did buhari get 1 million votes?

Did you create this thread to hear opinions from both side or just to hear what your ears want to hear.
Your reply will determine my comment.

Nobody is even calling the likes of Sowore, Moghalu and the rest.

You guys are always eager to support the worst of the worst and you wonder why Nigeria is what it is.

Maybe the black man never fully evolved into fully developed humans, cause you all can witness your own madness, at least on this thread.

Gosh, you lot are something else, I’m telling you

Kenplay:

Did you create this thread to hear opinions from both side or just to hear what your ears want to hear.
Your reply will determine my comment.

Both side though I have an opinion

senatordave1:


How did buhari get 1 million votes?

Yes buhari got 1 million votes so are you trying to say buhari is the same as tinubu？

Jakemedg:
Good you didn't mention just Edo,,Bayelsa but bro you and i know bayelsa isn't giving any 25％ maybe Edo because of Oshobaba

Buhari got more than 40% in bayelsa.

mrvitalis:

Who is tinubu please ...same politician that failed in acn for years ...if not for fashola over hyped pefromaced there was no way apc would have taken most Western States ...relax Oga tinubu can't deliver Lagos even u are talking

It is on record he delivered.which state did atiku,tambuwal,saraki or Wike delivered outside their home state? You think it is easy.your just an apc hater

senatordave1:


Buhari got more than 40% in bayelsa.

Yes buhari did so what's your point？

Jakemedg:
Yes buhari did so what's your point？

Tinubu will always poll more votes than buhari down south

Enwhen:



SenatorDave u got this completely wrong becuase u have not live in the north...Baba Tinubu cannot even will the south completely let alone the north, even with Starboy VP , it would be difficult, mostly if the PDP present a northern candidate from the north east...Baba Tinubu in South would be like ; SW = 75%....SE = 30% , SS = 30% ...as such, any southerner that goes into election with a northeeners with such percentage in the south would be a big loser...let us not decieve ourselves , Nigeria is completely divided , There is no way a southerner can defeat a northerner in any ballot presently, cos Baba Buhari has made is clear that he will not be part of 2023 politics , and is a fact with his records...the early the southerner get this fact the better...those who live in the north know this fact

What ss state is Tinubu getting his 30% from?

senatordave1:


Both side though I have an opinion

Ok, now here is my comment; Buhari personality Cult is the pillar of APC and as of now nobody knows the mind of Buhari.

APC primary in 2022 will be an open field, which means every one is free to contest but if I were Tinubu I would just anoint Osibanjo and step back because honestky Osibanjo has more electoral value than Tinubu.

I see doom coming for APC if South west fly their ticket, only Osibanjo can unite the south for APC, if Tinubu pick the ticket it will be the biggest disgrace at the poll. Tinubu dont have the number at all.