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Re: Does God Truly Exist? by Kobojunkie: 10:43pm On Jun 03, 2020
PRE4:
Read 2corinthians chapter 3,4,5 and 6
What will reading that do for him? undecided
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by LikeAking: 10:44pm On Jun 03, 2020
@Op you don dey wise.The moment you grow above religion,you will discover a better world.

Have you wondered why very intelligent men like the top scientists, etc don't believe in God?.

They know ways up.

I believe no God is bigger than every other God's combined. DAT one na scam.

There might be many God's and their followers attached all those "supreme titles"to them for marketing purposes.

The best solution is to find your own personal God.Don't follow the general God.

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Re: Does God Truly Exist? by Nobody: 10:44pm On Jun 03, 2020
Plead:


Where was your God when animals were raping his follower/worshiper in his sacred house?





Where was he when Coronavirus killed thousands of his followers in Italy?



God doesn’t exist my friend.


God exists my Bro.

Jesus Christ also suffered more tribulations when he came to the world.If God can allow himself to be persecuted,how about Humans?
Mind you that your suffering will determine your crown in heaven.Read 2 corinthians chapter 5 and 6
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by LikeAking: 10:52pm On Jun 03, 2020
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God exists my Bro.

Jesus Christ also suffered more tribulations when he came to the world.If God can allow himself to be persecuted,how about Humans?
Mind you that your suffering will determine your crown in heaven.Read 2 corinthians chapter 5 and 6

We don't want to follow a God that will allow people to suffer again na?.We want a real God.Will your father on earth allow suffer.

Jesus Christ was not human,so you can't compare his suffering to that of humans.

Its like torturing super man,at the end of the day,all the torture will be in vain.Because super man get odeshi.That kind thing.

Even Godfathers don't allow their gang stars to suffer.NAWA!

Let's face the facts the world will always be filled with problems that God can never solve.

That's if God is actually real.

As a human being you should take your destiny in your hands,play your card well to avoid long talk.

O.y.o.

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Re: Does God Truly Exist? by Nobody: 11:06pm On Jun 03, 2020
Kobojunkie:
What will reading that do for him? undecided


It will strengthen him more,i am sure he is double minded with the way things are going on in this world and perhaps his personal problem he have been praying for God to heed to but it seem God is Silent but God is not
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by Nobody: 11:08pm On Jun 03, 2020
LikeAking:


We don't want to follow a God that will allow people to suffer again na?.We want a real God.Will your father on earth allow suffer.

Jesus Christ was not human,so you can't compare his suffering to that of humans.

Its like torturing super man,at the end of the day,all the torture will be in vain.Because super man get odeshi.That kind thing.

Even Godfathers don't allow their gang stars to suffer.NAWA!

Let's face the facts the world will always be filled with problems that God can never solve.

That's if God is actually real.

As a human being you should take your destiny in your hands,play your card well to avoid long talk.

O.y.o.


No problem but whether you believe he exist or not,he EXISTS and will remain GOD -Your Creator
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by Kobojunkie: 11:18pm On Jun 03, 2020
PRE4:
It will strengthen him more,i am sure he is double minded with the way things are going on in this world and perhaps his personal problem he have been praying for God to heed to but it seem God is Silent but God is not
He doesn't even know that God is. So I don't see how reading a letter written to those who believe that He is, will help the @OP. undecided

He is not being double-minded at all.
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by LikeAking: 11:42pm On Jun 03, 2020
PRE4:



No problem but whether you believe he exist or not,he EXISTS and will remain GOD -Your Creator

Lol.

God should be a personal property, not a general property, if the need arise.

Something like having a personal car.

You are entitled to your own opinions.
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by Nobody: 7:00am On Jun 04, 2020
LikeAking:
@Op you don dey wise.The moment you grow above religion,you will discover a better world.

Have you wondered why very intelligent men like the top scientists, etc don't believe in God?.

They know ways up.

I believe no God is bigger than every other God's combined. DAT one na scam.

There might be many God's and their followers attached all those "supreme titles"to them for marketing purposes.

The best solution is to find your own personal God.Don't follow the general God.


At that last days Knowledge shall increase and the love many will wax cold.
They profess themselves as wise but they became fools.The Bible was correct in ITS prediction on perilous time.
Come to Christ and escape the danger ahead.
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by LikeAking: 7:15am On Jun 04, 2020
PRE4:



At that last days Knowledge shall increase and the love many will wax cold.
They profess themselves as wise but they became fools.The Bible was correct in ITS prediction on perilous time.
Come to Christ and escape the danger ahead.

You see how small you xtains are.Always in a haste to use fowl words to manipulate people.

Say what you like at the end of the day we all know who the fools truly are.

Keep waiting for a miracle.

No use your head.

Religion is the opium of t masses

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Re: Does God Truly Exist? by Nobody: 11:00am On Jun 04, 2020
LikeAking:


You see how small you xtains are.Always in a haste to use fowl words to manipulate people.

Say what you like at the end of the day we all know who the fools truly are.

Keep waiting for a miracle.

No use your head.

Religion is the opium of t masses



I used no foul word,it is in the word of God.If you felt i insulted you,pardon me.
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by butterfly777(m): 1:17pm On Jun 04, 2020
Just ask yourself:

Who designed the world and the many complex things in it?

Who arranged the highly programmed operations among man, plants, animals, season, and everything in the universe? How they work together.

There is God.

Only that many of our Churches do not present Him to us well.
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by sonmvayina(m): 1:36pm On Jun 04, 2020
The entire world has been reduced in our minds to a mass junkyard of thingy stuff. So even G‑d gets defined as a thing...I don't mean, "you learned about things of the world." I mean, you learned the idea of things. You learned that the world is made of stuff, objects, material goomp that's just "out there". Later in life, you started running after those things, accumulating them, amassing more and more mounds of things to fill your home, your backyard and your driveway. By now, the entire world has been reduced in your mind to nothing but a mass junkyard of thingy stuff. So even G‑d gets defined as a thing —and you're trying to find the place where He fits. Because, after all, all things fit in places.

When you woke up to life as a small child, it wasn't like that. There were no things. There was just the experience of being. Of sensing, of living, of breathing and doing. Screaming, nursing, burping. Those were all real. Those are life. Things are not real. Things are fiction. They don't exist. We made them up.

The Birth of Thinginess

How did things come to be? Here's my take on it.

In the beginning, there were no things. All of humankind knew life as does a small child, even as they grew older and wiser. But then someone got it into his head to draw pictures of all the stuff he had. Eventually, pictures became glyphs, a nifty device for esoteric communication. Glyph-lovers—such as the cult-priests of ancient Egypt—created thousands of glyphs to represent all the stuff Pharaoh was accumulating. Soon the idea seeped into the spoken language, as well: the idea of a "thing"--a static snapshot of a distinct whateveritis in a frozen moment of time. Stuff was born. And the world was never again the same.

In Hebrew, verbs ruleEvidence? Because in ancient, biblical Hebrew, there is no word for stuff. Or thing. Or object or anything similar. In raw, primal Hebrew, you don't say, "Hey, where's that thing I put over here?" You say, "Where is the desired (chefetz) that I put here?" You don't say, "What's that thing?" —you say, "What's that word?" That's the closest you can get to the idea of thing: a word. All of reality is made of words. Look in the creation story: The whole of heaven and earth is nothing but words.

In languages like English, nouns are the masters and verbs are their slaves, with adjectives and associated forms dancing about to serve them. In Hebrew, verbs rule. Big, little, wise, foolish, king, priest, eye, ear--all of these sound like things, but in Hebrew they are forms of verbs. The great 16th century kabbalist, Rabbi Moshe Cordovero, wrote that everything in Hebrew is really a verb. Everything is an event, a happening, a process —flowing, moving, never static. Just like when you were a small child.1

In Hebrew, there is not even a present-tense. There are participles, but the idea of a present tense only arose later. In real Hebrew, nothing ever is--all is movement.

That fits, because Hebrew was not written in glyphs. Hebrew was the first language we know of to be written with symbols that represent sounds, not things. With the Hebrew alphabet—the mother of all alphabets—you don't see things, you see sounds. Even the process of reading is different: when you read glyphs, the order doesn't matter so much. You just sort of look and everything is there. Even modern Chinese glyphs can be written in any direction. With an alphabet, sequence is everything. Nothing has meaning standing on its own. Everything is in the flow.

Get The Flow

Things are not real. Things are fiction. They don't exist. We made them up.The flow is real. Things are not real. Ask a physicist: the more we examine stuff—what they call matter--we see that it's not there. All that's really there is events: waves, vibrations, fields of energy. Life is a concert, not a museum.

Think of writing music, as opposed to painting a portrait. The portrait artist stands back and beholds his art, his still rendition of a frozen moment—and he beholds it all at once. Then he politely asks his model to please return to the pose of that which has now become the prime reality, the portrait. A portrait of that which is but never was.

A composer of music cannot do this. You can't freeze a moment of music—it vanishes as soon as you attempt to do such. Like the fictional stuff they call matter: Frozen to absolute zero, without energy, without movement, it no longer exists. Because, in truth, all that exists is the flow of being.

The Name

The flow of being: now you have found G‑dThe flow of being: now you have found G‑d. In fact, in Hebrew, that's His name. G‑d's name is a series of four letters that express all forms of the verb of all verbs, the verb to be: is, was, being, will be, about to be, causing to be, should be —all of these are in those four letters of G‑d's name. As G‑d told Moses when he asked for His name, "I will be that which I will be."

In our modern languages that doesn't work. We quickly slip into the trap of thingness again. Who is G‑d? We answer, "He is One who was, is and will be."

There we go with the "thing that is" business again. No, G‑d is not a thing that is or was or will be. G‑d is isness itself. Oy! The frustration of the language. We need new words: Ising. Isness. Isingness. Isifying. Isifier. In Hebrew you can conjugate the verb to be in all these ways and more. Perhaps in English one day we will do the same. Until then, we are like artists using pastels to imitate Rembrandt; like musicians trying to play middle-eastern strains in tempered C Major.

And the proof: We ask questions that make sense only in English, but in Hebrew are plainly absurd. Such as, "Does G‑d exist?" In Hebrew, that's a tautology, somewhat the equivalent of "Does existence exist?"

There is no need to "believe" in this G‑d—if you know what we are talking about, you just know. You will know, also, that there is nothing else but this G‑d—what is there that stands outside isness?

Think simple: You wake up in the morning and, even before coffee, there isAs for faith and belief, those are reserved for greater things. Like believing that this great Isness that isifies all that ises cares, knows, has compassion, can be related to. In other words, saying that reality is a caring experience. Which reduces to saying that compassion is real, purpose is real, life is real. That's something you have to believe. But G‑d's existence—like most ideas that men argue about—that's just a matter of semantics.

Think simple: You wake up in the morning and, even before coffee, there is. Reality. Existence. Not "the things that exist" but existence itself. The flow. The infinite flow of light and energy. Of being, of existence. Of is. Think of all that flow of isingness all in a single, perfectly simple point. Get into it, commune with it, speak to it, become one with it —that is G‑d.
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by Kobojunkie: 12:18am On Jun 05, 2020
butterfly777:
Just ask yourself:
Who designed the world and the many complex things in it?
Who arranged the highly programmed operations among man, plants, animals, season, and everything in the universe? How they work together.
There is God.
Only that many of our Churches do not present Him to us well.
I very much doubt that is the problem, and I propose that the problem covers about 99.9% of churches(men's houses of God) out there.
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by LordReed(m): 7:53am On Jun 06, 2020
CodeTemplar:
See the way you are talking as if God didn't create us with freewill.

If you would have intervened to stop such an act then your god doesn't have an excuse.
Re: Does God Truly Exist? by lilybonny(f): 11:54pm On Jun 06, 2020
Sure he does exist

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