Dantedasz:
@ ghettokid1,
Wow! Thank you for this wonderful sunday church service. I am really having a good time on this your thread. Christian's are hilarious!

StubbornGENIUS:
Do you still teach? Did you worship God today?

ghettokid1:

StubbornGENIUS:
Do you still teach? Did you worship God today?

Eulalia:


Ive worshipped God today.

Teach in Sunday school? Mmm... Being a while though bit I wish to continue some day. The place I'm currently worshiping @ is a new place and they already have teachers though that is not an excuse as the pastors have given me go ahead to be taking classes but i don't know why I'm being reluctant.

I'm eyeing the choir though. so don't want to jampack duties like I did in my former parish . They squeezed me dry. From Sunday school, to choir, to sermon ( sometimes). But I was blessed in the course of doing it. So no regrets.

StubbornGENIUS:
Oh you moved to a new place.Always know there are many rewards for working in the LORD's vineyard.UDO!!

Eulalia:


Lol...

Eulalia:


Ive worshipped God today.

Teach in Sunday school? Mmm... Being a while though bit I wish to continue some day. The place I'm currently worshiping @ is a new place and they already have teachers though that is not an excuse as the pastors have given me go ahead to be taking classes but i don't know why I'm being reluctant.

I'm eyeing the choir though. so don't want to jampack duties like I did in my former parish . They squeezed me dry. From Sunday school, to choir, to sermon ( sometimes). But I was blessed in the course of doing it. So no regrets.

Shelumiel:
The answer is freewill.

Daejoyoung:

So in other words, God chose not to know what satan would do in the future when he created satan. Does it mean he simply chose not to look into satan's future?

ghettokid1:

1. Meaning that God is careless?
2. Meaning that God is not ominiscient?

Eulalia:



Nope. Angels do not have free will. They are servants and are meant to only obey and operate only at God's command. That was why God sent Lucifer and other angels who rebelled by trying to have their own will out of his kingdom because they left their first estate which is obeying and doing only God's command and wanted to be doing what ever they wish. Its only human beings God gave free will to operate.

God created the angels for His use. He uses them as messengers for certain purposes he cannot use man cos he made man a little lower than angels so we don't don't possess the power and nature God gave the angels to operate with. But we have the will the angels do not have.

So Angels can only operate at Gods command, not of their own accord in other not to abuse the power they posses.

Look at another example of angels who left their firs estate and came down to mate with humans (operated of their own will) how it led to disaster. Their offspring were giants who were so powerful and began to eat human beings and destroy things. So God has a reason for not giving angels free will and power. He was careful to strike a balance there.

Also imagine if humans were given powers like the angels coupled with the free will, everyone will have been dead by now as people would want to destroy their fellow human beings at the slightest offence.

Shalom

ghettokid1:

Does that mean that he is not loving?

aelai:


You're a Sunday school teacher, no wonder

Great contributions.

I have a contrary opinion to a statement in your post. it's not directly related to the thread, so I don't want to digress, but with your permission, I'll post it

aelai:


You're a Sunday school teacher, no wonder

Great contributions.

I have a contrary opinion to a statement in your post. it's not directly related to the thread, so I don't want to digress, but with your permission, I'll post it

ghettokid1:

Abeg enlighten us small about the topic na

Eulalia:


Thanks for the compliment.
Oya share your contrary view. I'm all eyes and ears

ghettokid1:
Did God create satan on purpose?

Shelumiel:
The answer is freewill.

Daejoyoung:

So in other words, God chose not to know what satan would do in the future when he created satan. Does it mean he simply chose not to look into satan's future?

TruthHurts100:

Does anyone give birth to a thief?
Reason am.

ghettokid1:

We are not God na, we no dey see tomorrow

Eulalia:


Jiggaz.

TruthHurts100:


God is holy... He does not create anything that is bad. He lovingly gave all his creatures a choice to choose between good and bad.
That angel chose to do evil things and he became Satan. Research the meaning of that name, Satan.

ghettokid1:

You still neva answer the question

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ghettokid1:
NB: I'm 100% Catholic, I'm not an Atheist
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This is my full question:
Q1. If God is loving and all-knowing, then he wouldn't have created Satan. (does it mean that he is not all-knowing and loving?)

Q2. If he is all-knowing and created satan, then he is not loving as claimed in the bible. (does it mean that he is not loving?)

Q3. If God is loving but created satan, then he doesn't know all things (he is not the God we imagine). (does it mean that he doesn't know all things?)

Q4. If God decides not to know the outcome of a particular event as claimed by piccolobrunelli (does it mean that he is careless? That He doesn't care about what he is creating?)
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jiggaz:
God did not create satan. He created Lucifer, which was one of the most beautiful beings and highest ranking angels. Lucifer fell and he became satan. God is not the author of evil... We live in a fallen world. A perfect world is coming soonest for believers in Christ.

aelai:


You said 'God created man a little lower than the angels'. You quoted Psalms 8:5 there.

I'm sure that you are aware that some words were lost during the translation of the Bible. Psalms 8:5 is one of such. The word 'angels' in that particular verse is rendered as 'Elohim' in the original Hebrew context. Elohim means God. If you're able to get older versions of KJV, you'll see the word 'God' used instead of 'angels'. You don't need to look too far sef, You can check AMP, it's there (Personally, I prefer AMP because it retains the original renditions of words, translating them in simpler form and also ensuring that their meanings are not lost)

So, God created man a little lower than himself but higher than angels.

Let's look at another reference.

Hebrews 1:14 Amp: Are not the angels all ministering spirits (servants) sent out in the service [of God for the assistance] of those who are to inherit salvation?

Angels are to minister to us, they are to attend to our needs. In fact, they obey our commands (just as they obey that of The Father).

I'll end with this, we may not have the kind of power they have per say, but we have a much more greater power, they are subject to our commands.

Apostle Paul added another twist to it. You should check it out in 1 Corinthians 6:3

ghettokid1:
NB: I'm 100% Catholic, I'm not an Atheist
.
.
This is my full question:
Q1. If God is loving and all-knowing, then he wouldn't have created Satan. (does it mean that he is not all-knowing and loving?)
.
Q2. If he is all-knowing and created satan, then he is not loving as claimed in the bible. (does it mean that he is not loving?)
.
Q3. If God is loving but created satan, then he doesn't know all things (he is not the God we imagine). (does it mean that he doesn't know all things?)
.
Q4. If God decides not to know the outcome of a particular event as claimed by piccolobrunelli (does it mean that he is careless? That He doesn't care about what he is creating?)
.

Eulalia:


Okeydokey then. Thanks for the heads up.
My pastors have told us to always study with different translations of the Bible still I don't listen.

Thanks dearie.