Maximus69:


Kumuyi pikin them!

What concerns a Christian in how someone
NOT your mother,
NOT your wife,
NOT your sister,
NOT your daughter
Choose to dress herself?

Our societal wellbeing is a collaboration of all.

Every house has its rule.

You can't tell him what to do.

It's better you say because you're not allowed to wear your See-through cloth to the church that's why you suddenly become advocates of Those who dress immodestly should not be counselled to dress properly

Kobojunkie:

Those are not the commandments of Jesus Christ... those are Paul's words which you misconstrue.

But I would rather we focus on the words of Jesus Christ, the one who we follow and whose commandments we are called to obey. So, where does Jesus Christ tell you that it matters what women wear and that it is indeed your place to tell a woman how to dress?

And it's not part of the bible right?

But because it's not supporting your ommpdest dressing activism right

engineerboat:
Our societal wellbeing is a collaboration of all.
Every house has its rule.
You can't tell him what to do.
It's better you say because you're not allowed to wear your See-through cloth to the church that's why you suddenly become advocates of Those who dress immodestly should not be counselled to dress properly

There is society and then there is that which Jesus has called on you to do. So, which one is your focus? The traditions and rules of men that embody societal beliefs OR the commandments of Jesus Christ, the one whom you have devoted your life to?

Note: That Jesus explained why you cannot have both.

engineerboat:
And it's not part of the bible right?
But because it's not supporting your ommpdest dressing activism right

You misconstrued what Paul said in that verse.
But I chose to focus on Jesus Christ as I said because after all, Jesus Christ is our one and only TEACHER, or is He not?

handelex:
So Kumuyi telling his members especially the female folks to dress well is for them not to be raped abi? I wonder how some people reason atimes.

well said the guy saying rubbish . If possible he would have said Kumuyi asked members to rape women . Confused op

engineerboat:


Our societal wellbeing is a collaboration of all.

Every house has its rule.

You can't tell him what to do.

It's better you say because you're not allowed to wear your See-through cloth to the church that's why you suddenly become advocates of Those who dress immodestly should not be counselled to dress properly

FREEDOM is about what each person resolve to do in his/her heart, whether a person is a believer or not his/her shouldn't be abused, that's my point!

You can make rules for members of your own house not everyone!

engineerboat:


And it's not part of the bible right?

But because it's not supporting your ommpdest dressing activism right

My guy Rebecca (Isaac's wife) wear bracelets and nose ring, are you saying she's not a woman of faith? Genesis 24:30

Kobojunkie:

There is society and then there is that which Jesus has called on you to do. So, which one is your focus? The traditions and rules of men that embody societal beliefs OR the commandments of Jesus Christ, the one whom you have devoted your life to?

Note: That Jesus explained why you cannot have both.

The way of bringing men to the right way of life is the message of Jesus

Kobojunkie:

You misconstrued what Paul said in that verse.
But I chose to focus on Jesus Christ as I said because after all, Jesus Christ is our one and only TEACHER, or is He not?

And Paul was called By Jesus to go and do what

engineerboat:



The way of bringing men to the right way of life is the message of Jesus

You can't do that without following the examples set by God's people of ancient times, what Kumuyi and his cohorts are doing now is called man-made doctrines and traditions NOT God's way!

engineerboat:
The way of bringing men to the right way of life is the message of Jesus

What do you mean?
Are you saying yes, your focus is on the commandments of Jesus Christ, the one whom you have devoted your life to?

engineerboat:
And Paul was called By Jesus to go and do what

Sure Preach the gospel..., so too were Peter, James, John, Jude but Jesus is the one we should focus on because He is the New Covenant that God promised us, after all!

Maximus69:


My guy Rebecca (Isaac's wife) wear bracelets and nose ring, are you saying she's not a woman of faith? Genesis 24:30

Hoo so Genesis was part of Jesus teaching you both claimed to be following.

Do you see where you're shooting yourself in the leg

engineerboat:


And Paul was called By Jesus to go and do what

Jesus made Paul an Apostle for the nations, so if you don't believe (trust) in Paul's admonition, Jesus don't know you!

The letter Paul wrote simply means faithful women must not depend on their outward appearance, they must remain submissive to their husbands.

Most women often look down on their husbands because such men can't afford all the things Paul mentioned, so they are not keeping the faith if they should disrespect their husbands because their husbands can't afford all that.
So Paul is not saying any of those things is sin because faithful women of old put on all those things!

Maximus69:


You can't do that without following the examples set by God's people of ancient times, what Kumuyi and his cohorts are doing now is called man-made doctrines and traditions NOT God's way!

So we can follow ancient men.

Where those ancient men of old Jesus teaching according to both of you


Jezebel was also an ancient woman and a good example for people like you

Maximus69:

Jesus made Paul an Apostle for the nations, so if you don't believe (trust) in Paul's admonition, Jesus don't know you!

The letter Paul wrote simply means faithful women must not depend on their outward appearance, they must remain submissive to their husbands.

Most women often look down on their husbands because such men can't afford all the things Paul mentioned, so they are not keeping the faith if they should disrespect their husbands because their husbands can't afford all that.
So Paul is not saying any of those things is sin because faithful women of old put on all those things!

Is that also part of Jesus message as well, as acclaimed by both of you.

Let's I forget Paul teaching were aliens to you both

Maximus69:

Jesus made Paul an Apostle for the nations, so if you don't believe (trust) in Paul's admonition, Jesus don't know you!

The letter Paul wrote simply means faithful women must not depend on their outward appearance, they must remain submissive to their husbands.

Most women often look down on their husbands because such men can't afford all the things Paul mentioned, so they are not keeping the faith if they should disrespect their husbands because their husbands can't afford all that.
So Paul is not saying any of those things is sin because faithful women of old put on all those things!

Show me a woman of old that wear

See through cloth.

Show body cloth

Skimpy cloth.


Can you show me those women of old on those dresses

engineerboat:



Hoo so Genesis was part of Jesus teaching you both claimed to be following.

Do you see where you're shooting yourself in the leg

Jesus never said anything was wrong in the way women of his time adorn themselves Sir!

Paul wrote a letter to Timothy to help the women in the first century Christian congregation to know that they must remain in subjection to their husbands NOT becoming arrogant all because of the things they're putting on!

Note how he said this at 1Timothy 2:12, women are not permitted to speak in the congregation, because they must remain submissive to the men! 1Corinthians 11:3

engineerboat:
Jezebel was also an ancient woman and a good example for people like you

Did you know that nothing of what is detailed in the Bible Jezebel's informs us of how the woman even dressed?

I bet you had a copy of the book, my book of Bible stories, as a child to inform your mind of what to think of Jezebel...

engineerboat:


Show me a woman of old that wear

See through cloth.

Show body cloth

Skimpy cloth.


Can you show me those women of old on those dresses

Show me wear women of old dress like mourners the way your Pastors are demanding today?

Maximus69:


Jesus never said anything was wrong in the way women of his time adorn themselves Sir!

Paul wrote a letter to Timothy to help the women in the first century Christian congregation to know that they must remain in subjection to their husbands NOT becoming arrogant all because of the things they're putting on!

Note how he said this at 1Timothy 2:12, women are not permitted to speak in the congregation, because they must remain submissive to the men! 1Corinthians 11:3

Before verse 12 there was verse 9

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Maximus69:


Show me wear women of old dress like mourners the way your Pastors are demanding today?

Clap for yourself.

You better not let all this celebrity sue you for libel.

engineerboat:
Hoo so Genesis was part of Jesus teaching you both claimed to be following.
Do you see where you're shooting yourself in the leg

I am the one who believes in focusing on Jesus Christ since Jesus Christ is the one who set about 46 commandments that those of us who are His followers are meant to live by.

engineerboat:


Before verse 12 there was verse 9

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

I thought you wanted to quote Jesus nah!

So you're still quoting Paul's letter?

Well my guy, neither you nor your Pastors understand a single thing in Paul's letter because i've seen many of Deeperlife women cut their hairs low whereas the same Paul condemned such for Christian women! 1Corinthians 11:5-6

engineerboat:


Clap for yourself.

You better not let all this celebrity sue you for libel.

My guy they depicted the culture and dresses of women of ancient times!

So you let's see those who used to dress the way your Pastors are demanding?

Kobojunkie:

Did you know that nothing of what is detailed in the Bible Jezebel's informs us of how the woman even dressed?

I bet you had a copy of the book, my book of Bible stories, as a child to inform your mind of what to think of Jezebel...

2 king 9
22 And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many? 23 And Joram turned his hands, and fled, and said to Ahaziah, There is treachery, O Ahaziah. 24 And Jehu drew a bow with his full strength, and smote Jehoram between his arms, and the arrow went out at his heart, and he sunk down in his chariot. 25 Then said Jehu to Bidkar his captain, Take up, and cast him in the portion of the field of Naboth the Jezreelite: for remember how that, when I and thou rode together after Ahab his father, the Lord laid this burden upon him; 26 Surely I have seen yesterday the blood of Naboth, and the blood of his sons, saith the Lord; and I will requite thee in this plat, saith the Lord. Now therefore take and cast him into the plat of ground, according to the word of the Lord. 27 But when Ahaziah the king of Judah saw this, he fled by the way of the garden house. And Jehu followed after him, and said, Smite him also in the chariot. And they did so at the going up to Gur, which is by Ibleam. And he fled to Megiddo, and died there. 28 And his servants carried him in a chariot to Jerusalem, and buried him in his sepulchre with his fathers in the city of David. 29 And in the eleventh year of Joram the son of Ahab began Ahaziah to reign over Judah. 30 And when Jehu was come to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it; and she painted her face, and tired her head, and looked out at a window. 31 And as Jehu entered in at the gate, she said, Had Zimri peace, who slew his master? 32 And he lifted up his face to the window, and said, Who is on my side? who? And there looked out to him two or three eunuchs. 33 And he said, Throw her down. So they threw her down: and some of her blood was sprinkled on the wall, and on the horses: and he trode her under foot. 34 And when he was come in, he did eat and drink, and said, Go, see now this cursed woman, and bury her: for she is a king’s daughter.

engineerboat:
2 king 9vs 30 And when Jehu was come to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it; and she painted her face, and tired her head, and looked out at a window. 31 And as Jehu entered in at the gate, she said, Had Zimri peace, who slew his master? 32 And he lifted up his face to the window, and said, Who is on my side? who? And there looked out to him two or three eunuchs. 33 And he said, Throw her down. So they threw her down: and some of her blood was sprinkled on the wall, and on the horses: and he trode her under foot. 34 And when he was come in, he did eat and drink, and said, Go, see now this cursed woman, and bury her: for she is a king’s daughter.

You see what I mean? Nothing about her dressing at all.

2 Kings 9 vs 30
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30. When Jehu came to Jezreel, Jezebel heard the news. She put her makeup on and fixed her hair. Then she stood by the window and looked out.

That is all we are told she did, as far as her appearance was concerned.

Maximus69:

My guy they depicted the culture and dresses of women of ancient times!

So you let's see those who used to dress the way your Pastors are demanding?

A great woman of faith

Hannah

Kobojunkie:

You see what I mean? Nothing about her dressing at all.

That is all we are told she did, as far as her appearance was concerned.

How does an harlot dress

Hmm. Doesn't make any sense.

Maximus69:

My guy they depicted the culture and dresses of women of ancient times!

So you let's see those who used to dress the way your Pastors are demanding?

Can you talk about women of faith and old and not talk about Deborah.

engineerboat:
How does an harlot dress

I would rather you and I keep to the issue of Jesus Christ and His commandments for us as regards women and clothing.

I only intercepted that comment on Jezebel to make a point about how people conjured up in their minds, these images and ideas of Jezebel the prostitute queen, and how those ideas continue to inform the notion they have on decency and modesty.