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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by tesseract: 2:55pm On Jun 19, 2020
CelestineNelson:

It is very clear that you've not encountered God...
Let me tell you why you want to be an athiest

1. The freedom to believe and live the way you want is so important to you than the fact that they is someone in charge of the whole thing and having a standard that will hold you accountable to, is just way too much to submit yourself to him- because that means he might put a wet blanket in some of the things you want to do

2 maybe just because you can not prove his existence, you now concluded there is no God.
Before you come up with a reply to this go and think again...
Please Let me show you JESUS...I know God allow me to show you God...
And where did you get the notion that I want to become an atheist? Did I mention that in my post?
Fanatical muslims believe that anyone who is not practicing their form of religion is an infidel and should be harmed.
A lot of Christians on the other hand are crooked in their ways, they commit atrocities in the guise of being under grace. They claim to be Christians but their hearts are not renewed. They don't fear God, they only respect money and power. Some denominations don't interact with others because they feel those denominations are teaching false doctrines.
I believe in God and I strive to improve my relationship with him via his word. I study.
My dealings with God is not religion, it's a conscious relationship, a very deliberate one.

Stop jumping into conclusions... smh
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by DWJOBScom(m): 2:56pm On Jun 19, 2020
Righteousness89:
Leave Religion bro but embrace a relationship with JESUS CHRIST! That's what matters!

JESUS CHRIST is all you need in this life and in eternity!

I have nothing more to add sir

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by Kennydoc(m): 2:56pm On Jun 19, 2020
omoiyamayor:
first of all south Africa is western, western country is not by continent, Australia is western,new Zealand is,japan and south South Korea is,when you say western,it means practice not location, and when i talk about heaven dont mean paradise but eternity, don't get it twisted, when someone die they say he goes to heaven, paradise or hell no one is sure,but the way pink people lives,they don't care about eternity, thats why even when they find out asteroids are coming towards earth,the dont go to fasting and prayers to enter paradise,they either look for a way to stop it or get busy finding another planet that can inhabit mankind.they are hiding something from us, there is this movie about end of the world the title is either 2010 or 2012,i watched it around 2009,i was afraid then maybe it was a wake up call,but one thing i noticed in the movie is that from the beginning to the end of the movie,the said nothing about going to heaven,china was building ship while Americas,europeans and middle east rich people were busy buying space on the ship,but nothing waa mentioned of Africa in the movie, this Nigerian -british actor in half of the yellow sun was on of the main actors, this guys are not telling us something.

Of course I understand the sense in which you said whites are living their heaven on earth. Heaven means a place of perfection, beauty, peace, everything good etc. The instances I gave you only showed that life is not perfect for majority of people in the western world. An average Brit or American will never agree that they are experiencing heaven on earth.
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by CodeTemplar: 2:57pm On Jun 19, 2020
sonmvayina:


Who is talking about God?

I was referring to Jesus... Everything you said about God there, is exactly what I believe too.. But Jesus, he is just a Roman fabrication and creation..
OK.
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by aoofbeautifulme(f): 2:57pm On Jun 19, 2020
@op
Be godly not religious
Who religious help
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by Roman7(m): 2:58pm On Jun 19, 2020
BlackManta:


Is the religion responsible for the inventions.

Did they spend their days studying bibles or did they study science teachings and the works of other great scientist.

What has religion got to do with how a computer processes information

You are grasping at straws to defend religion.




same way the development in the Arab world is not as a result of their religion so why Attack Christians?
......u say one thing n counter ur self
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by omoiyamayor(m): 2:58pm On Jun 19, 2020
cyril10:
Whatever you are doing remember that except a man be born again he cannot enter into the kingdom of God, be not deceived by the devil whose only focus is to send as many that are willing to go to hell with him. Wise people are running to Jesus for salvation before it is too late, you are to the devil to destroy your soul in hell. Wise up young man.
lol you are the one that needs to wise up you know why? Because you are busy talking about a place you never been to and you are abandoning your responsibilities,you taking all your time thinking about heaven when you are still on earth,even the bible said,don't bother because of tomorrow because it will take care of itself, even the bible is giving us clue yet you are ignoring it.i am 29 now,at my age baba adeboye was busy thinking about having family and living a good life but you are telling me to be thinking about heaven when we have a country and continent to fix.

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by tellsblinks(m): 3:00pm On Jun 19, 2020
THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD HAS BLINDFOLDED THE EYES OF MEN, THEY CAN'T SEE LIGHT SHINNING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM


I really don't blame y'all saying trash about the God I have witnessed, Felt, seen, ane experience


The one who continously reveals himself to me in mysterious ways!!

He is all I have, he is my hope!!

*and mind you, I don't do religion!! I consciously study to know and to experience him*


You can't tell a blind man to see, cause deep down he can't see... Neither can a blind man convince the ones that sees clearly that nairaland has green colours in the design!!

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by Davidgprs(m): 3:01pm On Jun 19, 2020
Christianity:
1.- God just exists – forever, for no reason.
2.- God decides to create stuff after existing literally forever.
3.- God touches off the Big Bang, does nothing for 10 billion years.
4.- God creates Earth; again does nothing for 4 billion years.
5.- God creates dinosaurs…
6.- God kills dinosaurs.
7.- God creates mankind, in “his image”.
8.- God meddles wildly in the affairs of humans in a small part of the entire Earth for about 1500 years, including giving one tribal society rules to live by and helping them to defeat their enemies.
9.- God later comes back to earth in human form to preach for 33 years before dying a bloody death meant to serve as atonement for the flaws inherent in all humans (which he created).
10.- God ceases all manifestation and direct contact with humanity for the next 2000 years, leaving us with only an arbitrarily cobbled-together collection of metaphorical and contradictory revelations as our instructions for achieving eternal bliss.

SEEMS LEGIT…



I am just thinking nii ooo

What astonishes me is how otherwise intelligent and rational people can be quite silly when it comes to proclaiming their faith in an obviously imaginary deity. Why this deep desire to believe in magic? Acceptable in children but odd in adults. Then again most adults were subjected to a thorough and insidious brainwashing in childhood. That influence is very hard to shake off particularly so because we are social animals. Most of us find it difficult to resist established authority.

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by bigname23: 3:01pm On Jun 19, 2020
TheSourcerer:
mumu grin
if u like call am mumu e nor go change anything for life ...if u look am na he comment na b most liked for dis thread ...to tell u say pepo like u wey dey curse am nor many reach d ones dey support am ..so I don't xpect him to bothered..
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by Hermes119: 3:01pm On Jun 19, 2020
stagger:


Christianity is a not a religion. True Christianity is a way of life. The Pharisees were practitioners of religion, and yet Christ condemned them because they did not have love for God in their hearts.

How can you love God whom you cannot see, when you cannot love your neighbour whom you can see? You hate people from a particular tribe, you hate people because they are progressing more than you, you stab people in the back to climb ahead, you gloat over people's misfortune, you live in malice and unforgiveness, you are not a Christian even if you attend all the programs and services in your church.

Not all who call on God, will enter into the kingdom. Why did Jesus make that statement? Go figure.

Christians have a religious book
Check

Christians have an organization
Check

Christians use imagery and several religious depictions
Check

Christians observe religious celebrations
Check

Christians have sacraments,creeds,rotes
check

Should I continue

Did I say Christianity is not a lifestyle ?

Can't a word represent two things.
You can say Christianity is a lifestyle or relationship and all what not,its fine,I don't disagree but the term "Christianity" primarily represents a religion whether u accept that or not.
If hey give u form to fill and it comes to identifying ur religion what are u going to fill ?

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by adenigga(m): 3:01pm On Jun 19, 2020
Kenplay:
With my personal Experience, Observation and inner conviction, I think I dont want to be part of any religion again. This thing is truely an opium of illusion meant for people who cant take their destiny in their hands and for a sheeple masses.

Despite withdrawing from religion I found myself even having a better moral compass which I cant explain. We are throwing away common sense, hardwork and universal principles to leave in illusion. At the end of my observation I have come to the conclusion that its what you do for yourself that counts more.

When I see poor people dying of hungry in a country which have the capacity to be the global industrial hub I know we have throw away common sense, Nigeria biggest investment to South Africa is Religious buildings (Church) while here in Nigeria the South Africans brought us MTN, DSTV, SHOP RITE e.t.c which employs thousands of people and gives profit to our Investors inventing in the stocks and shares of those companies I realise religion is lack of common sense.

No amount of religion can make you succesful without application of common sense.
No amount of religion can make your marriage succesful without application of common sense and consideration for your partner.
No amount of religion can a nation grow and prosper without application of common sense, productivity and good policies.

At the end of it I think am leaving religion, its not worth it. Even uprightness and moral comes from a person inner conviction and not because of religion.


Hmmnn!!!!

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by tellsblinks(m): 3:01pm On Jun 19, 2020
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omoiyamayor:
lol you are the one that needs to wise up you know why? Because you are busy talking about a place you never been to and you are abandoning your responsibilities,you taking all your time thinking about heaven when you are still on earth,even the bible said,don't bother because of tomorrow because it will take care of itself, even the bible is giving us clue yet you are ignoring it.i am 29 now,at my age baba adeboye was busy thinking about having family and living a good life but you are telling me to be thinking about heaven when we have a country and continent to fix.
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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by Tomiwa69(m): 3:03pm On Jun 19, 2020
Joycekkh:
OK bye. Why are you even telling you? You are looking for supporters abi. Mtcheeew

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by omoiyamayor(m): 3:03pm On Jun 19, 2020
mmsen:


Those pastors are snake oil salesmen.

If they were really about bringing positive change then Nigeria would be the opposite of what it is.
exactly my point, have you thought about why them bola tinubu always go to redemption camp when baba is a Muslim, because he and the pastors know better,they are working together, we will come to your church to campaign to your clients, if we win,we will donate this and that, conspiracy, if you are yoruba i will advice you to go watch a movie from tunde kelani tittlee 'OLEKU' when lere paimo wanted her daughter to forget about marriage, he went to connive with a pastor.

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by BlackManta(m): 3:04pm On Jun 19, 2020
OriOko88:
Bull crap baldadash. You know nothing kid. Instead of you to be fighting for an egalitarian society in which rule of law and good governance prevails, you're ranting about religion. Is religion the cause of poverty in Africa? Is religion responsible for the poor governance we have in Nigeria or Africa? Infact religion opposes the oppression of the masses as well stated in the holy books

Let me tell you, most of the highly developed countries we have today, their foundation are based on the tenents of bible principles. UK, US, France, Italy, Germany are where they're today be cause of their believe in religion. US was established by respectable men of God like George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and other men of God. Today america motto is God bless america.
Even the greatest scientists the world ever had, many of them are from Christian backgrounds. Michael Faraday was a church organist, Isaac newton was a church chaplain, Robert Hook was a pastor, he helped built the Westminster abbey. Most of world inventions today are from Christian adherents. So be guided op. Religion has helped to bring morals,and discipline and not otherwise.
Fight for good leadership and governance and leave religion out of your misery.

Christianity didn't stop Americans from doing doing slave trade.
Even the Bible justifies slavery.

The Americans that made laws to segregate black people are Christians.

The Nazi that killed 3 million Jews are Christians too.

If christianity in Germany couldn't stop them from killing 3 million jews, how will the same Christianity make Africa great

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by perdollar(m): 3:04pm On Jun 19, 2020
MyVILLAGEpeople:
I left religion in 2018. I don't believe in all these religious dogmas and beliefs anymore.

But I know there is a supernatural being behind this world and I believe in him.
ur village ppl av finally catch u
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by TheSourcerer: 3:04pm On Jun 19, 2020
ContractKiller:
Your love of the Father is expressed by accepting the Son.

exactly!
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by brainfordetails: 3:05pm On Jun 19, 2020
Welcome to the club bro.

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by Fredoallan: 3:08pm On Jun 19, 2020
Righteousness89:


You need JESUS for Everything here on Earth and on the other side in Eternity!

When you refuse HIM now, when you Cross over, you will beg for HIM but it will be Late.
Cross over to wer? Can’t you be real for once ? Live here first and leave the cross over tin for now. You not even sure if der is life after death.

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by saasala(m): 3:08pm On Jun 19, 2020
MyVILLAGEpeople:
I left religion in 2018. I don't believe in all these religious dogmas and beliefs anymore.

But I know there is a supernatural being behind this world and I believe in him.

Look up Deism bro. I am a deist. COme subscribe to this system of belief
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by Tomiwa69(m): 3:09pm On Jun 19, 2020
MYZOLE:


Yes, religious bigots have failed us in Nigeria and Africa as a whole.... But then tell me.... Has atheists done any better?
Were they ever given a chance

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by BlackManta(m): 3:09pm On Jun 19, 2020
Roman7:




same way the development in the Arab world is not as a result of their religion so why Attack Christians?
......u say one thing n counter ur self

You started it.

You claimed the achievement of certain countries are because of Christianity and I reminded you that the richest country in the world is dominated by Muslims.

Now you have admitted that Islam has nothing to do with the wealth and progress of Qatar and UAE.

Likewise Christianity has nothing to do with the progress of America.

Case closed.

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by kendological(m): 3:09pm On Jun 19, 2020
Kenplay:
With my personal Experience, Observation and inner conviction, I think I dont want to be part of any religion again. This thing is truely an opium of illusion meant for people who cant take their destiny in their hands and for a sheeple masses.

Despite withdrawing from religion I found myself even having a better moral compass which I cant explain. We are throwing away common sense, hardwork and universal principles to leave in illusion. At the end of my observation I have come to the conclusion that its what you do for yourself that counts more.

When I see poor people dying of hungry in a country which have the capacity to be the global industrial hub I know we have throw away common sense, Nigeria biggest investment to South Africa is Religious buildings (Church) while here in Nigeria the South Africans brought us MTN, DSTV, SHOP RITE e.t.c which employs thousands of people and gives profit to our Investors inventing in the stocks and shares of those companies I realise religion is lack of common sense.

No amount of religion can make you succesful without application of common sense.
No amount of religion can make your marriage succesful without application of common sense and consideration for your partner.
No amount of religion can a nation grow and prosper without application of common sense, productivity and good policies.

At the end of it I think am leaving religion, its not worth it. Even uprightness and moral comes from a person inner conviction and not because of religion.


Welcome to rationality.
Check out Nigerian Humanists (@HumanistsNG): https://twitter.com/HumanistsNG?s=09

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by Brunicekid(m): 3:10pm On Jun 19, 2020
Righteousness89:
Leave Religion bro but embrace a relationship with JESUS CHRIST! That's what matters!

JESUS CHRIST is all you need in this life and in eternity!
You nailed the point exactly!!!

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by omoiyamayor(m): 3:10pm On Jun 19, 2020
Kennydoc:


Of course I understand the sense in which you said whites are living their heaven on earth. Heaven means a place of perfection, beauty, peace, everything good etc. The instances I gave you only showed that life is not perfect for majority of people in the western world. An average Brit or American will never agree that they are experiencing heaven on earth.
yes because and i think that because their plans are no more working out,most of their allies they are stealing from are now wising up, look at Venezuela, maduro is holding his ground and its affecting America, iran too,The JCPOA deal fell through even tho the European wanted the deal to hold because they need Iran resources but after it fell through provocations began,the started attacking themselves, before America will intimidate likes of iran and Venezuela to get what they want but things have changed, the only place they are still looking is Africa and thats because they distracted us with religion, instead of going to school we are going to church.most people dont even know how bad the Americans want what they are sleeping on every day.

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by OriOko88(m): 3:12pm On Jun 19, 2020
BlackManta:


Qatar and United Arab Emirates are one of the most developed and richest countries in the world.

They practice Islam not Christianity.

How did their country get so rich and developed without your favourite religion Christianity

Religious war is responsible for the loss of millions of lives in history.

The Christian crusaders slaughtered millions of people to spread Christianity.
The Muslim jihadist killed millions as well to spread Islam.

Go and read your history books.

The damage religion caused mankind far outweighs whatever good you think it did mankind.

In the dark ages religion tried to block the progress of science and technology.

The Catholic Church in the the time of Spanish inquisition executed people who tried to develop the knowledge of science.

Go and study the stories of martyrs of science and you will see dozens of scientists who were killed for practicing science which was considered to be from the devil by the Catholic, Roman and Spanish inquisitions.

List the good things religion brought to mankind and I will list a hundred bad things it did.

Those countries you mentioned are built up by the European christians. Christianity invented d technology being used in those countries.
Religion through christianity brought education and modern civilization. Read d makers of civilization, and see how many of them were christians. Africans should focus more on leadership and leave religion out of its problem
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by omoiyamayor(m): 3:13pm On Jun 19, 2020
Kennydoc:


Of course I understand the sense in which you said whites are living their heaven on earth. Heaven means a place of perfection, beauty, peace, everything good etc. The instances I gave you only showed that life is not perfect for majority of people in the western world. An average Brit or American will never agree that they are experiencing heaven on earth.
religion leaders in Africa are the white supremacists we have in Africa, they are already brainwashed by their masters in a polite way,they know the people trust them. Thats why sometimes i support daddy freeze movement.

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by omoiyamayor(m): 3:16pm On Jun 19, 2020
Roman7:



safe man
but I'm not a pastor tho'......thank u
lol i am sorry if i directed my comment to you, what im saying is just that if Nigeria is as nice as Qatar,i would have believed in religion. Even the Arabs which are moslims colonial masters are working very closely with America and Britain. They are not sitting everyday in mecca talking to God.

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Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by OriOko88(m): 3:17pm On Jun 19, 2020
BlackManta:


Christianity didn't stop Americans from doing doing slave trade.
Even the Bible justifies slavery.

The Americans that made laws to segregate black people are Christians.

The Nazi that killed 3 million Jews are Christians too.

If christianity in Germany couldn't stop them from killing 3 million jews, how will the same Christianity make Africa great
The Nazi you're referring to is ideological. Dont relate it with religion. The Nazi felt d Jews were a menace to them In Europe and killed most of them. They didnt refer to d bible not justifyed it with a bible verse. Its pure ideology. Its d actions of individuals. Its was carried out by Nazis not christians. Bible forbids killing, yoi knows that.
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by Shedrack123: 3:17pm On Jun 19, 2020
YorubaKinging:
Please sir , I would like If you stop repeating same words,
And start explaining what it means


How do you accept Jesus ?

Is it by mouth and confession?

Did Jesus not come to preach about loving the Father who sent him?

And doing his commandments?





By confessing him as your lord and personal savior

By heart through your mouth sir

Yes! Doing his commandments
Re: I Have Made Up My Mind To Leave Religion, It's Not Worth It. by omoiyamayor(m): 3:18pm On Jun 19, 2020
mmsen:


Which white man has told you thus?

Was it not your own parents and other useless elders in your vicinity who pushed superstitious nonsense onto you?
my parents got it from their own parents who were mind raped by the pink fellas.

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